Man Wins $15 million in Blackjack - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

johnjassa · 05-25-2011, 06:28 PM

Meet the blackjack player who beat the Trop for $6 million, Borgata for $5 million and Caesars for $4 million - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Breaking News

SUP3RNOVA · 05-25-2011, 06:35 PM

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"I don't do anything like the MIT guys," Johnson said. "I can figure things out on my own."

What the fuck does that mean? Is he trying to turn luck into a skill?

chuckd1356 · 05-25-2011, 06:42 PM

Is he autistic?

danke · 05-25-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SUP3RNOVA

What the fuck does that mean? Is he trying to turn luck into a skill?

It means he's playing perfect Blackjack which has a 1% edge and the bankroll to weather the storms. Combine that with the fact that he had an amazing streak while playing 100K a hand and it means he doesn't have to cheat to make an insane amount of money.

justo_tx · 05-25-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SUP3RNOVA

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"I don't do anything like the MIT guys," Johnson said. "I can figure things out on my own."

What the fuck does that mean? Is he trying to turn luck into a skill?

No, it seems likely he's counting, he just isn't using spotters like the MIT team did. And if he is he is right that he isn't doing anything illegal, card counting is legal, it's just that casinos try and make it difficult to do with things like continuous shuffles so you can never get a count going or 8 deck shoes (knowing that 99.99999% of the population can't count into that).

It seems odd that the casino's are surprised when they're discounting his losses though, that's killing the house edge right there.

mpbiz · 05-25-2011, 06:56 PM

$5.8 million in 12 hours.. that's not bad at all.

bauss · 05-25-2011, 07:32 PM

good read

scottspfd82 · 05-25-2011, 07:44 PM

Yeah, you give me a 20% discount on my losses and I'll play blackjack all day long.

Anyone who knows basic strategy can get the house edge down to ~1%-2%.

So at a normal table, every time I bet $100 the casino expects to make $1.

You give me $20 back every time I lose and the odds swing majorly on my side. Like, ridiculously.

I have no idea why the hell a casino would do that. If I found a $100 table with a 20% rebate I'd rape them all day long too.

YouDontKnowMe · 05-26-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SUP3RNOVA

What the fuck does that mean? Is he trying to turn luck into a skill?

Just means he's a lone wolf. Not working with a team of spotters.

Also, the casinos have nobody to blame but themselves. 20% discount on losses? WTF...

Green Arrow DZN · 05-26-2011, 01:10 PM

Great read. Crazy they would write off 20%

SEOAgents.org · 05-26-2011, 02:15 PM

That's freaking amazing. The house|casino always have the advantage over the players because they will need to keep hitting until they get good numbers. $15 mil is big chunk of change and that person is pretty much set for life.

bmorecali · 05-26-2011, 05:03 PM

i need to start black hatting black jack

Skippy McGee · 05-26-2011, 06:05 PM

It's good to know that Don Johnson has been keeping himself busy since "Nash Bridges" went off the air.

kingofsp · 05-26-2011, 06:17 PM

He is obviously taking NZT.

invisible777 · 05-26-2011, 07:27 PM

erect · 05-26-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SEOAgents.org

$15 mil is big chunk of change and that person is pretty much set for life.

not here in the good ole US of hyperinflation ... that's like 2 loafs of bread and a pint of milk.

MyOwnDemon · 05-27-2011, 03:17 AM

All this guy has to say is that he did this while on acai berries and colon cleanse. $15 mil into $30 mil.

UniversalDev · 05-27-2011, 03:41 AM

15 mil huh, a great payday lol.

shizah · 05-27-2011, 04:39 PM

reminds me of the movie 21 - winner winner chicken dinner

SEOAgents.org · 05-27-2011, 05:02 PM

or the Rain Man movie with Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman

worldrunner · 05-27-2011, 05:16 PM

He made a killing! If he wasn't counting I don't see why he said they wouldn't let him come back.

greenleaves · 05-27-2011, 06:56 PM

20% WTF.

I gotta get friendly with the head comp guy at one of these places. 20% on blackjack no less.

No wonder he was playing $100k hands. Higher variance = bigger wins and loses and the loses are compensated.

Fucking insane.

Sonny Forelli · 05-27-2011, 07:02 PM

I'd wager that 1 out of 100 people with the bankroll to play 100k hands has the self discipline not to let emotion start affecting wager size/strategy.

That's (likely) what the casino's were hedging on, and in this case he obviously did.

I would also bet that their bet that emotion would come in pays off more times than not.

Hadn't ever heard of that though - 20% discount - unreal.

05-25-2011, 06:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
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05-25-2011, 07:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
scottspfd82 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 789 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Yeah, you give me a 20% discount on my losses and I'll play blackjack all day long. Anyone who knows basic strategy can get the house edge down to ~1%-2%. So at a normal table, every time I bet $100 the casino expects to make $1. You give me $20 back every time I lose and the odds swing majorly on my side. Like, ridiculously. I have no idea why the hell a casino would do that. If I found a $100 table with a 20% rebate I'd rape them all day long too. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Learn To Convert: Daily Marketing Strategies That Work...

05-26-2011, 01:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
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05-26-2011, 02:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
SEOAgents.org Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: search engine Posts: 137 iTrader: 0 / 0%	That's freaking amazing. The house\|casino always have the advantage over the players because they will need to keep hitting until they get good numbers. $15 mil is big chunk of change and that person is pretty much set for life. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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05-26-2011, 06:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Skippy McGee Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Your mom's house Posts: 389 iTrader: 0 / 0%	It's good to know that Don Johnson has been keeping himself busy since "Nash Bridges" went off the air. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-26-2011, 06:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
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shizah Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 / 0%	reminds me of the movie 21 - winner winner chicken dinner Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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05-27-2011, 05:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
worldrunner Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0%	He made a killing! If he wasn't counting I don't see why he said they wouldn't let him come back. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-27-2011, 06:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
greenleaves Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 192.168.1.1 Posts: 1,876 iTrader: 76 / 99%	20% WTF. I gotta get friendly with the head comp guy at one of these places. 20% on blackjack no less. No wonder he was playing $100k hands. Higher variance = bigger wins and loses and the loses are compensated. Fucking insane. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Hit me up for bulk Herbal Incense. The potent kind that works. $2k/1000g - Sell it for $5-22/Gram, That's 1000% Profit! Much lower prices for bigger purchases. No banned substances, 50 states legal, includes lab certificate. PM me for info. If a trash collector can make 7 digits on this, you can too. To read more about this, view this bloomberg article.

05-27-2011, 07:02 PM	#23 (permalink)
Sonny Forelli Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Liberty City Posts: 2,256 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I'd wager that 1 out of 100 people with the bankroll to play 100k hands has the self discipline not to let emotion start affecting wager size/strategy. That's (likely) what the casino's were hedging on, and in this case he obviously did. I would also bet that their bet that emotion would come in pays off more times than not. Hadn't ever heard of that though - 20% discount - unreal. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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