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Old 06-09-2007, 10:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Douchebag Stop These DP Fucks Now Please

Here's the fucken deal and I think many people will agree with me. If your here just to peddle your shit and your placing DP members over WF members then get the fuck out of this forum and don't come back.

I say fuck this BS of people coming here like it's DP and all they do is peddle their shit make threads and then say, oh I'm busy I have 500 orders, blah..blah......blah and they put DP orders first?????

The guy pedalling automated blogs and Logiiks' shit got me started on this shit.

Do you guys want this bullshit to continue and these fucks bouncing from forum to forum just to peddle services and not to contribute to WF???? And they get our members on the hook and then say oh wait, I'm busy!

Is this place going to be a swap meet of hald ass services and DP fucks?

THIS SHIT NEEDS TO STOP MODS! SEO MIKE, John, Jon, Eli, STOP THESE FUCKS NOW!

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Old 06-09-2007, 10:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The new DP fucks in the list are these guys:

(1) Gops - He runs submit edge which is a supposed submission company and his previous id in DP frank.net got banned for being a lame ass..

These guys from DP, mostly from India just come here to sell shit and they contribute practically NOTHING to the forum.

I say - screw them! Let this forum stay clean!

PS: Maybe this thread should go into listing the fucks from DP
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Or we need a mod just to handle and regulate these fucks with the recnet influx off sellers that we have no idea where they are coming from and who they are.

If your an ex DP member then state here why you left or were banned? And if your a new seller of services explain why you are here selling to us? It better be good.
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Maybe we should just put up a rule like "People need to contribute xxx number of posts before selling anything" That way all these useless idiots who want to make a quick buck will make spam posts and get banned nyways and all the good guys will remain because they REALLY contributed something to the community.

One thing i noted with all these idiots from DP was that they searched in google for a webmaster forum enmasse then copy pasted a common sale letter and their first post is always their sales thread!

Jon really needs to take care of these idiots as the community really doesnt need people like this!
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We are talking about setting something like this up.
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We are talking about setting something like this up.
Sounds good... ironically I think they have something like that at DP. LOL

I don't have a problem with sellers trying to sell to as many possible different markets - don't we do that when we are selling? I do have a problem when one group of customers gets preferential treatment.

I think there should be some rules in the buy/sell section.

Disclosure of where else you are selling the product/service and at what price - be that a site, other forum, ebay, etc. I'm sure we are all happy to get a discount, but don't want to pay more than others!

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Must have been member for x days and made x posts to start a thread offering a service. (14 days, 10 posts maybe?)

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This could be based on emp's great post: $10 Landing Pages [WF Special]

There should also be guidelines on when payment is expected - member with less than x (5? 10?) positive itrader reports can't ask for payment up front?

A WF escrow service would be a great idea (prob only worthwhile cost wise for higher value purchases) - if not ran internally, maybe we could sort out a deal with a reputable company?
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Do I hear WSO section coming? Imagine.. you don't even need to change the name!
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An escrow service is not really Do-able. Its really a big hassle. But the restrictions before posting in the Buy/Sell sections are a great improvements for preventing spam offers. Moreover, we should only allow those people who contribute to the forum to stay and sell and those who give prefferential treatment and have all their posts only on their sales thread should get an immediate ban just like the idiots who ask "what is arbitrage" and "how can i make money"
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I fuckin hope not! I wouldn't complain if we get discounts, but really it's about having the same level of service here that a seller gives his other customers.
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I vote LazzyHippy as the new Swap Meet Guide! woot woot as ScottDaMan would say!

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The seller must also agree to provide WF with the same level of communication they provide to their other customers.

Disclosure of interests - did you create the product/service, own or represent the company, are you an affiliate?

Must have been member for x days and made x posts to start a thread offering a service. (14 days, 10 posts maybe?)

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This could be based on emp's great post: $10 Landing Pages [WF Special]

There should also be guidelines on when payment is expected - member with less than x (5? 10?) positive itrader reports can't ask for payment up front?

A WF escrow service would be a great idea (prob only worthwhile cost wise for higher value purchases) - if not ran internally, maybe would could sort out a deal with a reputable company?

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LOL! You guys are brutal! I love it.
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All the professional AM here, yet you don't see BYA coming from a mile away... 3 years tops BYA is the [insert name here] of 2010
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BYA just loves to Blast People's ASS
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BYA is the? dot com asshole of 2010 the most unprofessional AM ever and he don't give a fuck.

Only if people (avearge Joe) knew who was selling them shit on the internet. I'm sure my conversions would go down. LOL


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I vote LazzyHippy as the new Swap Meet Guide! woot woot as ScottDaMan would say!
A trading guide/mod is a good idea, but I'm sure there are other peeps in a better position to keep the scammers at bay than me!
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Bro, your here, you contribute, good advice, your in the mix, you take this shit serious and your ethical from what I have seen.

PM Jdog or Jon. Perfect timing for you man.

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^^

I second that!
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Third. You are one of the most levelheaded guys here, LH. You'd be perfect.
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Looks like the support in favour of LH is increasing in bounds and leaps, now someone just needs to PM Jon with the idea.
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It would be cool to ban all of the people who try and peddle their shit here. It really pisses me off when they don't even post in the correct fucking forum.

+1 for LH
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I agree with Blastyourass on this. Before you know it these douchebags are going to ruin this forum.

I vote for LH as well. Even though I hate hippies philosophically, this guy is cool.

Hey Blastyourass, you know you can have a mod change your name right? (last time I'll fuck with you about your name, promise )
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Woo... what the fuck! Why do I get the feeling I'm being railroaded into something! I don't want any more fuckin AIM convos from newbs, who haven't read enough here to realise I'm not the best person to ask about design, SEO, programming.. well, anything really!

Seriously, I wouldn't turn it down - I spend enough time here as it is and would be happy to help more if I can. I'm not going to chase it though and really do think there are people here who have a better understanding of all the issues surrounding trading than I do.

Your comments are a great fuckin ego boost though! Cheers!
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Hey Blastyourass, you know you can have a mod change your name right? (last time I'll fuck with you about your name, promise )
Now that ya mention it, it does suggest a kinda Freudian anal fixation!
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I, too, vote to force Lazy Hippy into a position that he doesn't want. Let the IMs from newbs begin!
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I think its high time i added LH on AIM and started bugging him
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Do I hear WSO section coming? Imagine.. you don't even need to change the name!
Not that anyone cares, but if you start that WSO-type crap, I'm out like a light!! Warrior was one of the first forums I came across when I started. I've only been involved in IM since early April and I have already had enough of there forum and the opt in list and the CONSTANT email barrage from Warrior members.
One guy was so sincere in his emails,"dont believe what you read, dont buy ebooks from everyone, blah,blah,blah..." And now my email box is full of his offers.

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I didn't stay there long enough to find out, but from what I understand the WSO shit is about giving a discount to forum members.

Now, while we obviously don't want the warrior type of 'products' being sold here, I've got nothing against sellers giving us a discount or special offer. It seems yoink*gasp* and geekcognito both do that, yet still provide an excellent service.
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Hey guys everything is cool but don't make shit where genuine people wont be able to give us good deals you know
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I didn't stay there long enough to find out, but from what I understand the WSO shit is about giving a discount to forum members.

Now, while we obviously don't want the warrior type of 'products' being sold here, I've got nothing against sellers giving us a discount or special offer. It seems yoink*gasp* and geekcognito both do that, yet still provide an excellent service.

I agree that things such as landing pages,websites and content articles are in my view perfectly fine. And I should have been a bit clearer about that. However, I was put off by the ebook barrage that goes on over there. Members pushing the next "this will put you over the hump" ebook. That is my problem. I think it is great that there are ppl here who can write articles and do web development.
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NEWS NEWS:

Apparently these fucks from dp type in a service they want to sell for example "manual directory submissions" into google and find out webmaster forums where people actually buy these services. They compile a list of these forums, signup and then post their offer there. You can obviously find this out because their first post is always in their sales thread. They rarely visit the forum for anything else and just subscribe to the thread to get notifications whenever someone posts that he is interested in the service. Furthermore, there are only a few ways to tackle this menace:

1. Appoint a mod/guide for Sell Buy Trade section before its too late
2. Give in a basic number of posts + time to be acquired in the forum before posting in the sell/trade section
3. Allowing nobody to sell any "Service Oriented" offers without prior permission.

I personally feel option 3 is gay but its an idea.

Implementing these before its too late will preserve the sanctity of the forum.
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The board is getting spammed by these DP bitches that only fly by to make money, they should be treated like e-book sellers.
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NEWS NEWS:

Apparently these fucks from dp type in a service they want to sell for example "manual directory submissions" into google and find out webmaster forums where people actually buy these services. They compile a list of these forums, signup and then post their offer there. You can obviously find this out because their first post is always in their sales thread. They rarely visit the forum for anything else and just subscribe to the thread to get notifications whenever someone posts that he is interested in the service. Furthermore, there are only a few ways to tackle this menace:

1. Appoint a mod/guide for Sell Buy Trade section before its too late
2. Give in a basic number of posts + time to be acquired in the forum before posting in the sell/trade section
3. Allowing nobody to sell any "Service Oriented" offers without prior permission.

I personally feel option 3 is gay but its an idea.

Implementing these before its too late will preserve the sanctity of the forum.
Not sure about the prior permission bit. We do need some clear rules though. At the end of the day these guys are trying to sell something, like most of us. It just happens to be that we are their target market.

We just need to make sure that sellers know what is expected of them here and that our standards are above other forums. If we set out clear rules and crack down harshly on anyone who violates them then it should benefit genuine sellers along with all of us potential buyers.
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Here is the deal guys, if a known signature spammer, con man or scam artist is promoting some bullshit, ban them and their IP, it is real simple, that is how I deal with all crooks and bullshit artists.

99% of the time, I ban them before they even make a post because I can see them operating from a blacklisted open proxy!
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Yup, and we should start out by cleaning the SBT section of the already existing service spammers and filter the scum out...

I suggest we insta ban people signing up just to promote their service.
I can also give you a neat list of people who just signed up to promote their shit..
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It is good to see you guys hate self promoting moronic spammers as much as I do, but stamp them out BEFORE they get a foothold, that is the mistake Shawn made at Digital Point, but Shawn never listened to me either, that was one of his biggest mistakes ever and he knows it too !!!

Now we wait for the "reorganization"

On Digital Point there is the good old boys spamming and reputation trading club, that is also Shawn's fault and I told him so on the forum to his face and will again until it is dealt with properly.

Now you guys know why Shawn bans me ???

PS: It is called silencing the truth man.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, don't forget that you all have the ability to report posts. If you see something that isn't right, click on the little icon <!> to report it. Then all of the mods see it and it gets taken care of.

We don't need a mod dedicated to policing that section, a guide might be a good idea, but we'll have to see.

Regardless, if you're not comfortable using the "Report Post" icon, PM me and I'll look into it. I'm sure most of the other mods would be cool with you PM'ing them also, but I don't want to speak for everyone.

Last, use common sense when buying and selling on any internet forum. Caveat Emptor, fuckers!

/edit/ if someone wants to write some guidelines for buying and selling on public forums, do so. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to sticky something like this in that section.
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That should help a little.
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