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Old 06-27-2007, 02:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Fuckyeah Are You Racist?

Not trying to stir a controversial topic but I am just curious that how much does the race of the person matters to you? How many times have you faced it?

Freakonomics, Blink and Influence have all proved that racist biases exist -- There's no denying that. There are so many times when I see a sudden change in people's behavior when they know that I am an Indian. May I thank people like Barack Obama and John Kerry for it?

Though it has happened to me so many times that I've learnt how to ignore it and the person. It's easier to cut ties with that person because if a person doesn't respect you for who you are, there's no use in trying to change him or her.

And why am I writing it out? Yesterday, I saw the same change in a person I respected a lot and that hurt me real bad. And I really had to vent it out.

Anyway now I have it off my head. Care to share your experiences?
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hell, I'm not. It'd be kinda hard for me to be. My Mom is white, my Dad is black, and I've got German, Irish, British, little Jewish, African American, Cherokee Native American and maybe a few others.

All people were created equally.

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Damn Brar, you're Indian? Fucking outsourced, non-English speaking piece of crap! Let me guess, you make all your money writing content for $.0005 a word and also enjoy doing manual link submissions? Damn I lost all respect for you.

Just kidding man. However racism is a big thing where I live. I deal with it all the time, and sometimes it can be funny. Sometimes its directed towards me, others its not (I'm white by the way). And one more question, is that really you in the avatar? Because it looks a lot like Ben Affleck.
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I've always thought Brar's avatar looked like Steve Carrell with a tan. Completely serious, thought it might be a shot from The Office or something.
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What? There's other races than white?
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Damn Brar, you're Indian? Fucking outsourced, non-English speaking piece of crap! Let me guess, you make all your money writing content for $.0005 a word and also enjoy doing manual link submissions? Damn I lost all respect for you.

Just kidding man. However racism is a big thing where I live. I deal with it all the time, and sometimes it can be funny. Sometimes its directed towards me, others its not (I'm white by the way). And one more question, is that really you in the avatar? Because it looks a lot like Ben Affleck.
Oh and you forgot one more thing -- Instructing old Ladies in the middle of the night on how to open up Microsoft Paint on their Dell Desktops.

But hey, are you going to believe that Indians are actually more racist themselves? I live in the tourism capital of India -- Jaipur. We get so many foreign tourists here but still if you are white, you cannot enter some temples. Not all but some. And if you do by mistake, the temple priests will do rituals to purify the temple.

Yup that's me in the AV ( Flickr: Photos from Lord Brar ) Thanks for the comments. Actually, I am a Punjabi and Punjabis are supposed to be of European decent.

It is actually the way I speak and look that quite a few people don't initially think I am from India. And sometimes that is actually a bad thing for me like for example the Golf Club that I am a member at actually 'investigated' if I am not hiding my nationality to pay lesser membership fees.
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My little rant on the topic
There are whites and there are white trash. blacks and n*ggers, mexicans and sp!cks. Whites, blacks and mexicans are cool in my book. The others IMO do nothing but hurt their races stance in society and perpetuate the social problems. Each individual should get what they put into society.
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In a strange twist on the subject...

Try being a white guy from the Southeastern US with a southern accent.

People just assume you're racist. And that you bone your sister.

It sucks because isn't that a form racism in and of itself? Or is there no such thing as racism against white people?

And I don't even have a sister!
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There are whites and there are white trash. blacks and n*ggers, mexicans and sp!cks. Whites, blacks and mexicans are cool in my book. The others IMO do nothing but hurt their races stance in society and perpetuate the social problems. Each individual should get what they put into society.
Amen, brother. Only respect those who show you the same.
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What kind of bothers me is the reverse racism.
If your not a minority, you're pretty boned when trying to go to college, get a competitive job, start a business. But thats not what bugs me, its when you question it, people always bring up the whole "some ancestor with the same skin color as you, did something to an ancestor who has the same skin color as me." When the reality is, there isn't a single race that came to the united states that DIDN'T get completely screwed over (irish, italians, europeans included). In fact of all the bickering, the one group there seems to be the least backlash from is the chinese, when in reality they had it MUCH MUCH worse than everyone else. Slavery was NOTHING compared to what the united states did to the Chinese.
We literally had concentration camps for them. Yet, nothing from the media, where are their casinos and their scholarship programs?
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Oh, and another thing (yep, I'm just pissy tonight)...

it's heinous if someone mentions the word "fat" in regards to someone else, but it's just a-ok for everyone to call thin women "skinny bitch" and so one....just jokingly of course.

Oprah wants us all to embrace our body shape. Love the plus size look. But bitch and moan about smaller sizes. Yeah right Oprah.
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Stupid blonde, she thinks she is in a thread about sexism...

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it's heinous if someone mentions the word "fat" in regards to someone else, but it's just a-ok for everyone to call thin women "skinny bitch" and so one....just jokingly of course.
Definitely good point. Whenever speaking derogatory about a woman it's always something physical. Even the good looking ones are simply whores.
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Add divorced to that mix. Oh man, and people wonder why I work on the internet. It's so I don't have to go out and convince other women that I don't want their ugly fat husbands , and no I am NOT a man stealer, and no I do NOT need to eat a cheeseburger (but hey, while the convo is going, maybe a gym membership is in order for the cheeseburger-offerer)....

See? I told you I was pissy tonight.
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I strictly only date brunettes, i don't even look at blondes....lol sorry

Don't ask me why. I can't explain it.
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We both said things we didn't mean. I'm sure you didnt' really intend to insult Bloo from Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends. Right? ....right?
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We both said things we didn't mean. I'm sure you didnt' really intend to insult Bloo from Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends. Right? ....right?

You're right. This is so unlike us.


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Holy Christ! You guys start screwing things pretty fast (pun indeed intended ).

Though on a serious note, I was in pretty pissed off mood when I posted it. But thanks for letting me know that the world is truly fucked up. Heh.

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So, do you have a blue "schlong" (<< this word is from some viagra spam, i love it, is it used in the US???)

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I hate myself.Btw, im indian so by hating myself i hate indians? Does that make me racist?
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It sucks because isn't that a form racism in and of itself? Or is there no such thing as racism against white people?
First of all, my parents make white people so I'm a bit of an expert here. I've been one my entire life.

Racism against white people is VERY real... it's just that white people don't have a jesse jackson or an al sharpton to bring all sorts of media attention to it.

When white cops are accused of beating or shooting a non-white suspect or convicted criminal, it's instantly cause for discussion over "worsening race relations" and we get to watch lightbulb head Larry King dissect with Rev. Al Charlatan it for two weeks.

When four black suspects are arrested for kidnapping, gang raping, torturing, mutilating, burning and murdering two young white college students, it gets swept under the media rug. Urban Legends Reference Pages: Murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian

When a white 91 year old WW2 vet is punched in the head 21 times on video by a young black man who then steals his car, not a word about race. http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3175187

When a 101 year old white woman is on video being beaten by a black man for $32, all the media coverage I saw on tv every morning and evening refused to even mention that the suspect was "black", and only begrudgingly admitted that when it came out that he was to be charged with a "hate crime". Video shows 101-year-old mugged - Crime & Punishment - MSNBC.com

And these are just a few examples... there are plenty more. Not ONE of these stories or victims ... REAL victims ... got a fraction of the nation media attention that Don Imus got for saying "nappy headed ho's".
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Ok racism? yeah it bothers me. I'm a whitey. I grew up around a lot of racist people. I always thought most people didn't care about race like me, but as i got older, that is definitely not the case. Motherfuckers are racist as shit.

I've gotten used to other people being racist, and I don't mind throwing out a racist joke or two. or three or four. But i try very hard not to judge people on their skin color or nationality... cause hey, even as a whitey I had my own share of racism from other whiteys.

And i still don't get why everyone hates the jews. what did they do that was so bad?
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it's just that white people don't have a jesse jackson or an al sharpton to bring all sorts of media attention to it.

When white cops are accused of beating or shooting a non-white suspect or convicted criminal, it's instantly cause for discussion over "worsening race relations" and we get to watch lightbulb head Larry King dissect with Rev. Al Charlatan it for two weeks.

When four black suspects are arrested for kidnapping, gang raping, torturing, mutilating, burning and murdering two young white college students, it gets swept under the media rug. Urban Legends Reference Pages: Murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian

When a white 91 year old WW2 vet is punched in the head 21 times on video by a young black man who then steals his car, not a word about race. http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3175187

When a 101 year old white woman is on video being beaten by a black man for $32, all the media coverage I saw on tv every morning and evening refused to even mention that the suspect was "black", and only begrudgingly admitted that when it came out that he was to be charged with a "hate crime". Video shows 101-year-old mugged - Crime & Punishment - MSNBC.com

And these are just a few examples... there are plenty more. Not ONE of these stories or victims ... REAL victims ... got a fraction of the nation media attention that Don Imus got for saying "nappy headed ho's".

And we don't even have to mention a few Duke lacrosse players as well.
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And we don't even have to mention a few Duke lacrosse players as well.

Yeah everyone is all over that DA, Mike Niphong... I have yet to hear one media outlet say anything bad about the accuser who damn near ruined these kids' lives and got the team coach fired in the process.
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If I asked "why are so many black people in the US below the poverty level when they have more opportunities to succeed than whites?" - would that make me a racist?
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Its funny but being African, i get different end of the sticks here. More interest from white people and a lil bit of racism from african americans on so much presumption about me thinking i am better than they are. I kid you not. I really don't give a fuck, i was brought up with muslims, americans french,italians and a shitload of other sub tribes back in kenya. So i had diversity thrust into my face and i have way too many things to do and too little energy to waste worrying about other peoples races. Its just a waste of time for me,plus i have to let things go and fast otherwise i get stuck with the whole world moving around me. I drive a taxi around raleigh during weekends and tend to be a lil chatty and always get a very weird reaction, like wow you are talking to us since most of the drivers never even bother to take interest of the people they are ferrying around. I see alot, hear things i really dont want to hear within such a short period of time that i have learned not to be judgmental at all. I understand that sometimes we just have long tough weeks,so when someone comes into my ride whether white,black or latino and they are so pissy i dont judge them. Weird enough most of my clients are caucasian,white or whatever word is politically correct and boy i tell you thinking that cause i am african and going through challenging times,evaporates when people talk and tell me about their lives some are just getting married cause they are 30, others proposing and marring women they really dont like,some not wanting to get married even though having girlfriends for years... i can go on and on. Never let race bother and always shrug people who tend to be judgemental to you.I know its easier said than done but try having 20 personalities in one night,drunk talking(if not shouting) and just try, i mean try having time for racism.Bill bellick aint got nothing on me. Hope i didnt go too much off topic.
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Sir my message is simple: naggers, jews, homosexuals, mexicans, arabs, and all different kindas a chink stiiiink! and i hate uhm!

why do i hate nagger you ask?
Lazy good for nothin tricksters, crack smokin swindlers, big butt havin, wiiiiide nose breathin all the white mans air!

or how about chinks, with theeeere kuuung foo and theeere ching chang chong talk, I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU, go back to your country, white power!

Dont let the liberal Meeeedia tell you how to think and feel. If you got hate in your heart ........let it out! If you dont like will and grace that doesnt mean theres somethin wrong with you....it means theres somethin wrong with will..........hes a homosexual.
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No it means you've got taste when it comes to comedy!

I try to love everyone and treat everyone equally, even if society doesn't, but have to admit I sub-consciously blame individuals for the actions of their governments and society.

So while I accept people for who they are, there's an tiny thing there saying "Stupid fuckin Americans" and "Murdering Israeli cunts..." - Completely illogical really as the ones I've met - the ones who've chosen to travel - are most likely the more open-minded people and less likely to support the racist and xenophobic policies of their governments.

In the same way I'm not too happy being English - considering what my country has done to the world, I understand why I would be judged on my nationality.

I do feel sorry for the average Muslim though - our great leaders have decided that they are the current enemy (gotta have one to keep the sheeple under control) and they are being treated like shit.
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Sir my message is simple: naggers, jews, homosexuals, mexicans, arabs, and all different kindas a chink stiiiink! and i hate uhm!

why do i hate nagger you ask?
Lazy good for nothin tricksters, crack smokin swindlers, big butt havin, wiiiiide nose breathin all the white mans air!

or how about chinks, with theeeere kuuung foo and theeere ching chang chong talk, I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU, go back to your country, white power!

Dont let the liberal Meeeedia tell you how to think and feel. If you got hate in your heart ........let it out! If you dont like will and grace that doesnt mean theres somethin wrong with you....it means theres somethin wrong with will..........hes a homosexual.
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I do feel sorry for the average Muslim though - our great leaders have decided that they are the current enemy (gotta have one to keep the sheeple under control) and they are being treated like shit.

I don't feel bad at all and I think we need to begin aggressively profiling. I worked disaster relief with the red cross at ground zero after 9/11 before they had even finished counting the bodies, and terror cells have been broken up all around where I live, including the 9/11 hijackers who lived 5 minutes from me.

Now if there were a bunch of tall, tattooed Irish men trying to (and sometimes succeeding) murder countless thousands of American civilians, you can bet your ass that I'd be falling over myself to let the whole world know that I'm not one of them. Profile me to your heart's content! Search my bags! I've been search randomly plenty of times while working in Manhattan, so don't bother telling me that I don't know what it's like.

I don't live where you live, but as for my country, where are the legions of American muslims denouncing terrorism? Where are the muslim leaders picketing outside of every major news network to get airtime to let the country know where "moderate" muslims stand on the issue? Why are the 6 men training to attack Fort Dix here in the US outed by a random department store clerk and not by another muslim who was concerned that these guys may be up to something? Why is it my responsibility to give everyone the benefit of the doubt when people who want to kill me, my family, and other Americans are LITERALLY living right next to me?
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Not trying to stir a controversial topic but I am just curious that how much does the race of the person matters to you? How many times have you faced it?

Freakonomics, Blink and Influence have all proved that racist biases exist -- There's no denying that. There are so many times when I see a sudden change in people's behavior when they know that I am an Indian. May I thank people like Barack Obama and John Kerry for it?

Though it has happened to me so many times that I've learnt how to ignore it and the person. It's easier to cut ties with that person because if a person doesn't respect you for who you are, there's no use in trying to change him or her.

And why am I writing it out? Yesterday, I saw the same change in a person I respected a lot and that hurt me real bad. And I really had to vent it out.

Anyway now I have it off my head. Care to share your experiences?
Well, that brings a question from me to you then. There's a certain race of people that live in India, and because of their race or something I am not sure of, they are treated worse than slaves, I think they are only allowed to deal with shit but I can find only little info on it.
They are the so called Untouchables. Care to explain what your definition of Racist is?

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Funny you should mention the Irish.. To quote Irish comedian Andrew Maxwell:

"Irish people love Muslims. They've taken a lot of the heat off us. We're not the terrorists anymore. We're the Riverdance people"



I think it was wrong when anyone with an Irish accent was under suspicion when the IRA were bombing London, just as it's now wrong to suspect anyone wearing a hijab of being a terrorist. "Aggressive profiling" sounds like discrimination to me.
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Well, that brings a question from me to you then. There's a certain race of people that live in India, and because of their race or something I am not sure of, they are treated worse than slaves, I think they are only allowed to deal with shit but I can find only little info so it'.
They are the so called Untouchables.
You forgot the part where if women were lucky then maybe just maybe they get to be reincarnated as men. How can you not love the caste system?
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