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Old 10-20-2011, 09:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fuck Gaddafi dead?


The video looks iffy. It's been all over the news.

What do you think about it?
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've been watching Al-Jazeera for the past hour. He's def captured or killed with more reports of the latter.
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I wonder what will happen now?
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fucked up world we live in...
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Game over. What actually happened?
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There were multiple stories on the BBC news.

He was either shot in the legs, shot in the stomach, captured and then killed, brought back to his home town or he's being held hostage.

It's all speculation at this moment in time.
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His home town was allegedly overtaken and he was captured/killed.
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First Bin Laden, then that guy in Yemen, and now this?

America is racking them up!
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He was meant to have crossed the border like a month or two ago.

I'm calling shenanigans on this one. Feels like another Idi Amin. (sic?)
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Could someone repost those pics of Tripoli and list of benefits that were available to Libyan citizens when the evil dictator was in power.
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It's a shame he was killed and not captured. It would have been better for him to be forced to account for his crimes in court.

Although that's probably why he decided to go down fighting.

It's an ignominious ending hiding in a drain like a rat. Same as Saddam Hussein hiding in a hole in the ground.
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this has nothing to do with his dictatorship(it was alright for 40+ years til now?). he wanted a gold standard and is tired of this monopoly money. dead.

chavez next?



funny thing is, there are a lot of people in this country who tie sadam and ghaddafi with al qaeda
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Could someone repost those pics of Tripoli and list of benefits that were available to Libyan citizens when the evil dictator was in power.
In 2002, Libya had one of the highest per capita incomes in Africa, $7,600, and a relatively high population growth rate at 2.4 percent. Thanks to oil, the government provides generous welfare benefits to Libyan citizens and the economy relies heavily on foreign workers; in the 1980s and 1990s, more than half a million foreign nationals, mostly Africans, have found employment there.

The Libyan government structure was designed by Muammar al-Qaddafi (also Muʿammar alQadhdhafi), who holds no formal position of authority but serves as head of state. As he conceives it, Libyans rule themselves, without the intervention of elections, politicians, or political parties, through a system of local and national committees and congresses that deliberate, administer, and supervise the affairs of the country on their behalf.

Health care is a right guaranteed by the State to all Libyan citizens through the
creation of hospitals and health establishments in accordance with the law.


Subsidized food, free services in education and health, housing facilities, utility
services (electricity, water and transportation) at low prices to the poor are
among the benefits that eased the lives of all citizen


When a worker retires because an accident at work has totally disabled
him/her and made him/her unable to work again, he/she is entitled to a full
pension. If the accident causes partial disability, the worker is entitled to a
lump sum payment or partial pension.


Daily assistance in cash is provided to self-employed persons in the event of
temporary disability due to sickness, an employment accident or childbirth




Under the revolutionary leadership of Muammar Qaddafi, Libya has attained the highest standard of living in Africa. In 2007, in an article which appeared in the African Executive Magazine, Norah Owaraga noted that Libya, “unlike other oil producing countries such as Nigeria and Saudi Arabia, utilized the revenue from its oil to develop its country. The standard of living of the people of Libya is one of the highest in Africa, falling in the category of countries with a GNP per capita of between USD 2,200 and 6,000.”

“The young people are well dressed, well fed and well educated. Libyans now earn more per capita than the British. The disparity in annual incomes… is smaller than in most countries. Libya’s wealth has been fairly spread throughout society. Every Libyan gets free, and often excellent, education, medical and health services. New colleges and hospitals are impressive by any international standard. All Libyans have a house or a flat, a car and most have televisions, video recorders and telephones. Compared with most citizens of the Third World countries, and with many in the First World, Libyans have it very good indeed.”

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.

People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

How does Libya get so rich? The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell.

Gadhafi became the leader of Libya in 1969. The living standards of Libyans have improved significantly since the 1970s, ranking the country among the highest in Africa. Urbanization, developmental projects, and high oil revenues have enabled the Libyan government to elevate its people's living standards. The social and economic status of women and children has particularly improved. Various subsidized or free services (health, education, housing, and basic foodstuffs) have ensured basic necessities. The low percentage of people without access to safe water (3 percent), health services (0 percent) and sanitation (2 percent), and a relatively high life expectancy (70.2 years) in 1998 indicate the improved living standards. Adequate health care and subsidized foodstuffs have sharply reduced infant mortality, from 105 per 1,000 live births in 1970 to 20 per 1,000 live births in 1998. The government also subsidizes education, which is compulsory and free between the ages of 6 and 15. The expansion of educational facilities has elevated the literacy rate (78.1 in 1998).
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In 2002, Libya had one of the highest per capita incomes in Africa, $7,600, and a relatively high population growth rate at 2.4 percent. Thanks to oil, the government provides generous welfare benefits to Libyan citizens and the economy relies heavily on foreign workers; in the 1980s and 1990s, more than half a million foreign nationals, mostly Africans, have found employment there.

The Libyan government structure was designed by Muammar al-Qaddafi (also Muʿammar alQadhdhafi), who holds no formal position of authority but serves as head of state. As he conceives it, Libyans rule themselves, without the intervention of elections, politicians, or political parties, through a system of local and national committees and congresses that deliberate, administer, and supervise the affairs of the country on their behalf.

Health care is a right guaranteed by the State to all Libyan citizens through the
creation of hospitals and health establishments in accordance with the law.


Subsidized food, free services in education and health, housing facilities, utility
services (electricity, water and transportation) at low prices to the poor are
among the benefits that eased the lives of all citizen


When a worker retires because an accident at work has totally disabled
him/her and made him/her unable to work again, he/she is entitled to a full
pension. If the accident causes partial disability, the worker is entitled to a
lump sum payment or partial pension.


Daily assistance in cash is provided to self-employed persons in the event of
temporary disability due to sickness, an employment accident or childbirth




Under the revolutionary leadership of Muammar Qaddafi, Libya has attained the highest standard of living in Africa. In 2007, in an article which appeared in the African Executive Magazine, Norah Owaraga noted that Libya, “unlike other oil producing countries such as Nigeria and Saudi Arabia, utilized the revenue from its oil to develop its country. The standard of living of the people of Libya is one of the highest in Africa, falling in the category of countries with a GNP per capita of between USD 2,200 and 6,000.”

“The young people are well dressed, well fed and well educated. Libyans now earn more per capita than the British. The disparity in annual incomes… is smaller than in most countries. Libya’s wealth has been fairly spread throughout society. Every Libyan gets free, and often excellent, education, medical and health services. New colleges and hospitals are impressive by any international standard. All Libyans have a house or a flat, a car and most have televisions, video recorders and telephones. Compared with most citizens of the Third World countries, and with many in the First World, Libyans have it very good indeed.”

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.

People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

How does Libya get so rich? The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell.

Gadhafi became the leader of Libya in 1969. The living standards of Libyans have improved significantly since the 1970s, ranking the country among the highest in Africa. Urbanization, developmental projects, and high oil revenues have enabled the Libyan government to elevate its people's living standards. The social and economic status of women and children has particularly improved. Various subsidized or free services (health, education, housing, and basic foodstuffs) have ensured basic necessities. The low percentage of people without access to safe water (3 percent), health services (0 percent) and sanitation (2 percent), and a relatively high life expectancy (70.2 years) in 1998 indicate the improved living standards. Adequate health care and subsidized foodstuffs have sharply reduced infant mortality, from 105 per 1,000 live births in 1970 to 20 per 1,000 live births in 1998. The government also subsidizes education, which is compulsory and free between the ages of 6 and 15. The expansion of educational facilities has elevated the literacy rate (78.1 in 1998).
Would you support the American Federal Government drilling lots of oil, and using the proceeds for universal healthcare? If not, why not? How would it be different to Gaddafi's Libya?
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Not for long, let's check back in a few years.
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Hate to burst the Go USA bubble but it was the NTC fighters that caught/killed him after Gaddaffi tried to make a run from his home town Sirte. It was a NATO aircraft (French) that bombed his convey which led to this.

And for the record the UK/French military have made the most sortes over Libya.
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Would you support the American Federal Government drilling lots of oil, and using the proceeds for universal healthcare? If not, why not? How would it be different to Gaddafi's Libya?
Libya had an export driven economy. Furthermore they produced more than they used. We however, use more than we produce. If we had excess fuel to sell to other countries I would definitely have no problem with that.

In staid of the government gobbling up this money they gave it back to the people in terms of health care, houses, cars, food, ect...

Even if we wanted to we couldn't do that as we don't really produce exports like we once did.
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Hate to burst the Go USA bubble but it was the NTC fighters that caught/killed him after Gaddaffi tried to make a run from his home town Sirte. It was a NATO aircraft (French) that bombed his convey which led to this.

And for the record the UK/French military have made the most sortes over Libya.
The "rebels" would have not even made it 24 hours if FR/USA were not bombing the shit out of them. They would bomb a town, blow up everything in site then let the idiot rebels jump around with guns for the camera's to show on the news, to make it look like they took over a city... A city full of innocent people.
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Well according to my handy-dandy CIA world factbook https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/nl.html Netherlands had a poverty rate of 10.4% in 2010 while Libya had poverty rate of about 33% https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ly.html

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Well according to my handy-dandy CIA world factbook https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/nl.html Netherlands had a poverty rate of 10.4% in 2010 while Libya had poverty rate of about 33% https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ly.html

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now the turn of usa and fr/uk to come to steal oil and futrunes of lybia just like they did in iraq and afganistan also will put politicians who will serve them the best and will keep islamists away like they did always
The USA has yet to gain a drop of oil from Iraq
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Hey, give me your mailing address and I can you shoot my old Economist magazines from 2008-2010 and highlight the articles on Libya that basically depict it as hell on earth for all but the privileged few.
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now the turn of usa and fr/uk to come to steal oil and futrunes of lybia just like they did in iraq and afganistan also will put politicians who will serve them the best and will keep islamists away like they did always
Yawn. Even before the shitstorm US maybe imported less than 4% of their oil from Libya.

And it's not gonna ramp up. North America is awash in shale oil, that's why they are trying to build pipelines all over North America. So oil/natural gas can get shipped to thirsty China from North America.

N/S Dakota has enough oil to supply the US for about 30 years easily. And they are gonna do that by 2020.

In five years time, you guys down there are gonna have a President and Congress that won't give two shits about the Middle East. Count on it.
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Could someone repost those pics of Tripoli and list of benefits that were available to Libyan citizens when the evil dictator was in power.

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Gaddafi's last moments alive: Dictator begs for his life after being dragged from a drain. Seconds later he was summarily executed

- Libyan prime minister confirms that former dictator is dead
- Gaddafi tried to flee in a convoy hit by American drone
- Vehicles were also shelled by Nato fighter jets...
- ... before being driven back to his compound in Sirte
- Gaddafi in final attempt to flee before final push by rebels
- 'Found in a hole' wearing military-style clothing, shouting 'Don't shoot'
- Rebel forces executed him in front of a baying mob
- His body was paraded through the streets of the city
- Gaddafi's eldest son Saif shot in the leg and taken to hospital

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I find it strange that the views are much lower than the likes/dislikes...



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oh look another person with 10 posts feels compelled to share their opinion. join the site just to comment on this did you?
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Because youtube takes awhile to adjust to the correct views when a video is getting a lot of hits during a certain time period. It will stay around a 300 number for awhile.
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