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Old 11-03-2011, 12:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Checkthisout Experienced SEOs Wanted

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Salary is commensurate with skills and experience

For very senior or director level, we might consider looking beyond N. America.

If you live in Vancouver, we will consider less than 5 years experience for junior to mid roles, depending on experience.
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Here in town eh? Interesting. Markus I had no idea you were from Vancouver
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is this for POF? Is this full or part time?
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tangy, you scare me, but pm details if interested!
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Not for POF. Not Reinvent either. Even if you live here chances are you aren't familiar with us.

fwiw, we're moving to 9k sq ft in around june (on the waterfront) and lots of growth happening. Good opp for right people.
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Tough sell. I feel like anyone with 5 years of high level SEO experience would make way more money on their own versus working for a company.
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Tough sell. I feel like anyone with 5 years of high level SEO experience would make way more money on their own versus working for a company.
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You may also get people from 3rd world countries for much cheaper price. To 'work in Canada' they would come for a lower salary (1/4th of what a US/Ca person expects) because it's going to be higher than whatever they earn already + they have immigration chance.
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You may also get people from 3rd world countries for much cheaper price. To 'work in Canada' they would come for a lower salary (1/4th of what a US/Ca person expects) because it's going to be higher than whatever they earn already + they have immigration chance.
yeah but to do that they'd have to justify that they can't find local workforce. Tough...
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Was about to come in talking all manner of shit about wanting someone with 5 years experience and how unrealistic that is for the reasons mentioned above until I saw who OP was..

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We already have an office in India. The work over there is obviously cheaper, but often sub par as many rely on an outdated approach (submissions, etc) that just don't cut it in more competitive markets. Of course there are exceptions, and sometimes suitable in a certain capacity, but not in this case.

We're after people that can take ownership and hit the ground running. We're not an agency, this is for in-house work.

We've been advertising in the bay area and nyc in the past and have been speaking with a few candidates that have worked with big banks and other markets.

headiez247, I disagree. Just because someone has 5 years experience doesn't ensure success. And some might like the security of a regular paycheck in addition to what they have on the side, on the opportunity to work on big projects beyond white label or affiliate sites.

Qualified individuals would likely be compensated similar to or above what is suggested as current standards for an seo salary. But it's all relevant to experience and what you bring.

Thanks for input Ly, with your dogpile experience there could be something for you if you can relocate to India.
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Markus I respect you for all you've done but I agree with other posters here. You're asking for someone that really knows their seo game. But anyone with that kind of experience is going to want to work for themselves. The only people that would take your offer are seos that don't make enough $$$ for themselves.

Basically your asking for the best ppl to work for you but the only people that would actually work for you are ppl that are underqualified.

I think if you really wanted a great seo guy you'd have to offer more or a JV position with some kind of vested interest. Besides that I don't think WF is the place to hire ppl like this.
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leadsupplier, I appreciate your comments.

We have a recruiter that is looking, and posting to the right places, I'm just casting a wider net. Almost 10 PMs and a few look interesting at first glance.

Its not entirely impossible that we wouldn't provide compensation as you've suggested for the right people.
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Markus I respect you for all you've done but I agree with other posters here. You're asking for someone that really knows their seo game. But anyone with that kind of experience is going to want to work for themselves. The only people that would take your offer are seos that don't make enough $$$ for themselves.

Basically your asking for the best ppl to work for you but the only people that would actually work for you are ppl that are underqualified.

I think if you really wanted a great seo guy you'd have to offer more or a JV position with some kind of vested interest. Besides that I don't think WF is the place to hire ppl like this.
Why do you care so much?

Markus, I have the perfect candidate for you if telecommute is an option.
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As others have said, all the best SEOs are going to be self employed. You'd really have to incentivize someone to go work for you. I doubt anyone here would work for someone else for anything less than 100k, and even then the best on here are making far more than that. You'd need to offer some kind of profit sharing.
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As others have said, all the best SEOs are going to be self employed. You'd really have to incentivize someone to go work for you. I doubt anyone here would work for someone else for anything less than 100k, and even then the best on here are making far more than that. You'd need to offer some kind of profit sharing.
Not necessarily true... some (in fact most) people just don't like being self-employed. Although agree that WF probably has a much lower proportion of those people. I'd think the conference circuit/LinkedIn is probably better.
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As others have said, all the best SEOs are going to be self employed. You'd really have to incentivize someone to go work for you. I doubt anyone here would work for someone else for anything less than 100k, and even then the best on here are making far more than that. You'd need to offer some kind of profit sharing.
This in right neighbourhood (and more) for remuneration for the right people.
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Markus, I have the perfect candidate for you if telecommute is an option.

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Markus I respect you for all you've done but I agree with other posters here. You're asking for someone that really knows their seo game. But anyone with that kind of experience is going to want to work for themselves. The only people that would take your offer are seos that don't make enough $$$ for themselves.

Basically your asking for the best ppl to work for you but the only people that would actually work for you are ppl that are underqualified.

I think if you really wanted a great seo guy you'd have to offer more or a JV position with some kind of vested interest. Besides that I don't think WF is the place to hire ppl like this.
Well it's not your decision to make now is it? You don't catch fish by sitting in your arm chair!
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Well it's not your decision to make now is it? You don't catch fish by sitting in your arm chair!

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We already have an office in India. The work over there is obviously cheaper, but often sub par as many rely on an outdated approach (submissions, etc) that just don't cut it in more competitive markets. Of course there are exceptions, and sometimes suitable in a certain capacity, but not in this case.

We're after people that can take ownership and hit the ground running. We're not an agency, this is for in-house work.

We've been advertising in the bay area and nyc in the past and have been speaking with a few candidates that have worked with big banks and other markets.

headiez247, I disagree. Just because someone has 5 years experience doesn't ensure success. And some might like the security of a regular paycheck in addition to what they have on the side, on the opportunity to work on big projects beyond white label or affiliate sites.

Qualified individuals would likely be compensated similar to or above what is suggested as current standards for an seo salary. But it's all relevant to experience and what you bring.

Thanks for input Ly, with your dogpile experience there could be something for you if you can relocate to India.
wow so according to seomoz a LEAD SEO starts at only 50k... SHIT
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wow so according to seomoz a LEAD SEO starts at only 50k... SHIT
That's cuz the numbers are skewed cuz Rand's a cheap fuck.
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A lot of larger agencies are cheap as fuck. I know of places with about 10-15 people bringing in 1+ mill a month paying their heads 50-60k.
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SEO is a weird ass field when it comes to finding people to hire. Because of the niche there is very very little overhead for good SEO people to go out and start their own shit. Because of that it is nearly impossible to find a *good* SEO to come work for you for straight salary. Seems like you'd have to offer some small percentage of ownership of the company or product, even then I dunno...

That being said, I recently took a salary job in Denver for $100k a year. But the dude allows me a lot of things:

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lol seomoz, they are like the matt cutts of SEO companies
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We already have an office in India. The work over there is obviously cheaper, but often sub par as many rely on an outdated approach (submissions, etc) that just don't cut it in more competitive markets. Of course there are exceptions, and sometimes suitable in a certain capacity, but not in this case.

We're after people that can take ownership and hit the ground running. We're not an agency, this is for in-house work.

We've been advertising in the bay area and nyc in the past and have been speaking with a few candidates that have worked with big banks and other markets.

headiez247, I disagree. Just because someone has 5 years experience doesn't ensure success. And some might like the security of a regular paycheck in addition to what they have on the side, on the opportunity to work on big projects beyond white label or affiliate sites.

Qualified individuals would likely be compensated similar to or above what is suggested as current standards for an seo salary. But it's all relevant to experience and what you bring.

Thanks for input Ly, with your dogpile experience there could be something for you if you can relocate to India.
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That being said, I recently took a salary job in Denver for $100k a year. But the dude allows me a lot of things:

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Your perks would certainly make it more tempting for me, but it would need to be significantly more than 100k. I can totally understand why people want it to be in house, but I've just gotten way too spoiled by being able to work when and where I want.
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Your perks would certainly make it more tempting for me, but it would need to be significantly more than 100k. I can totally understand why people want it to be in house, but I've just gotten way too spoiled by being able to work when and where I want.

honestly though, not much has changed since I took the job. at first i really hated going into the office but honestly, I do get a lot more work done being there. when I worked from home I literally spent like 80% of my waking hours playing video games and watching TV.
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SEO is a weird ass field when it comes to finding people to hire. Because of the niche there is very very little overhead for good SEO people to go out and start their own shit. Because of that it is nearly impossible to find a *good* SEO to come work for you for straight salary. Seems like you'd have to offer some small percentage of ownership of the company or product, even then I dunno...

That being said, I recently took a salary job in Denver for $100k a year. But the dude allows me a lot of things:

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Everyone else wears ties and shit to work...I roll in at like noon with sweatpants on. The people in the office always ask Amanda "why the fuck is he allowed to do this and that dirka dirka dirka"

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honestly though, not much has changed since I took the job. at first i really hated going into the office but honestly, I do get a lot more work done being there. when I worked from home I literally spent like 80% of my waking hours playing video games and watching TV.
Same here. Hated the transition to working in the office, but it has really worked out well. Now, I get lots of stuff done and my SEO skills are for superior to what they were.
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Markus is on the right track. I know a few guys, some of the top in the industry and yet they are huge pussies and can't find their way to do it on their own. I just dont understand how with skills like that you would ever want to work for someone but they do and they wouldn't have it any other way. We at WickedFire think differently that is all.
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it's funny how some of you guys think all you need to get rich online is SEO skills. I ranked a lot of websites in the past that brought me zero, either because: I targeted the wrong niche, had horrible content, had designed the website poorly, didn't monetize it properly, etc...

To make money online today you need to be good at a bunch of different things: SEO, Content, Web Design, Web Development, Affiliate Marketing, Traffic Generation, PPC, Social Media, Outsourcing, Media buying, etc...

OP is just asking for someone good at SEO.
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While you can certainly earn a lot of money as an SEO on your own, you can absolutely make a good living as an SEO in the corporate world. Plus, as an in-house SEO guy, you don't have to worry about dealing with clients, billing, and other bullshit. You don't have to worry about finding offers and dealing with legit third parties. You don't have to put any of your own $ at risk.

This of course coming from a guy that does SEO/internet marketing for an agency. It's fun working on all different types of campaigns, clients, and industries. I also like the guaranteed paycheck and being able to work with other smart, fun people in an amazing office downtown. I get paid pretty well, too. And nobody is stopping me from doing my own thing on the side...

To have the opportunity to work with someone like markus would be reason enough for someone to try this!
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Markus is on the right track. I know a few guys, some of the top in the industry and yet they are huge pussies and can't find their way to do it on their own. I just dont understand how with skills like that you would ever want to work for someone but they do and they wouldn't have it any other way. We at WickedFire think differently that is all.
You say this, but there are several more senior members who work inhouse, like the member below.

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While you can certainly earn a lot of money as an SEO on your own, you can absolutely make a good living as an SEO in the corporate world. Plus, as an in-house SEO guy, you don't have to worry about dealing with clients, billing, and other bullshit. You don't have to worry about finding offers and dealing with legit third parties. You don't have to put any of your own $ at risk.

This of course coming from a guy that does SEO/internet marketing for an agency. It's fun working on all different types of campaigns, clients, and industries. I also like the guaranteed paycheck and being able to work with other smart, fun people in an amazing office downtown. I get paid pretty well, too. And nobody is stopping me from doing my own thing on the side...

To have the opportunity to work with someone like markus would be reason enough for someone to try this!
I went inhouse/agency and work with some of the top SEOs in the industry. I have no problem going into the office everyday.
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Markus, don't listen to naysayers If I lived in Vancity and didn't have a job already, I'd apply. I am pretty sure my skills are at least on a mid level.
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