Berto

Link Emperor: The ONLY Link Building Service You'll Ever Need.

Nobody talks about this here. They had one sales thread that's now closed., but this looks great for the lazy in me.

I e-mailed them asking how their system can handle new content added to sites, since I'm not going to want to log in and update it every time new content gets added to new sites by me and the writers. I'd love if I could hit them with an API call or they would just check my sitemaps.

Would love to hear what everyone thinks or if anyone has experience. It seems killer if it does indeed work.

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cheshire

I used it. It was buggy at the time. Then when they started billing me my monthly fee every hour on the hour ($297) until I killed the Paypal subscription I decided to give it up. They refunded the "over payments" a few days later via e-check which I then had to wait for 2 weeks to clear.

With that said it's pretty cool, I wish they would fix the bugs. But the front end clients use is buggy, and apparently the back end billing is also buggy. Once they get the kinks worked out I'll probably try them again.

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Hav3n

@cheshire - How long ago was this?

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lukep

Holy popeshit! Now THAT'S a linkbuilding service...

At first I was like WTF Berto? A WSO? HERE???

Then I saw he is basically just micro-managing your credits between all of the following services:

Gonna have to give the free trial a spin now... +Rep for posting this here, Berto!

Edit: Fuck. Just saw Cheshire's post. I think I'll hold off now until others report that it's all clear.

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GangsterProfit

Hey guys,

I'm the co-founder of Link Emperor. Thanks for all the kind words to those who posted them. And respect to everyone with issues -- we're listening. We're happy to answer any questions you may have right here in this thread.

We have been around for a little less than 3 months, and during those 3 months, we've had over 500 people sign up for our service, either as a trial account or as a paid member. So to say that we've been busy is quite an understatement.

We're doing our absolute best to keep things running as smoothly as possible, but we have hit a few bumps in the road and we always work to fix things as quickly as we can.

I can confirm Cheshire's report about a billing mixup. It only affected 3 of our customers and we promptly refunded all the incorrect billings and offered to repay any other charges it might have caused them to incur (overdraft fees, etc.) Since then, we've processed a whole bunch of transactions successfully without incident.

Cheshire -- I didn't realize that the refunds went out by eCheck -- we just did them the normal way via PayPal's "Issue Refund" button. Shoot me a personal email at kevin [at] linkemperor.com and we'll do something to make that up to you.

To smooth things out further, we've recently hired another full-time American customer support person, and we're hiring two more full-time programmers this week. We're listening to all your suggestions and we really want to make Link Emperor into something that fits with the high standards you guys all have.

Feel free to post in this thread any questions or concerns and I'll do my best to answer them.

lukep

Hi Kevin, thanks for responding.

3 quick questions about LinkEmp:

1. I've got shittons of URLs to promote. We're talking scientific-notation-type numbers of landers/urls/domains... Luckily they don't have to all be promoted on the same day or I'd be broke already. I find I promote slightly more Keywords than landing pages in my current setup. (So let's say for 100 URLs I'd promote 125 keywords to them... I cross promote a lot.) So according to your pricing page, would the limiting factor for me be the lander URLs, or the Campaigns?

2. Is there a way to set up lots and lots of campaigns in your system that allows me to go in and switch allocations between existing campaigns, back and forth? Must it be limited to the # of what you're calling campaigns in your pricing page? Or can we have a 'campaign' in your system envelope hundreds of URLs underneath it?

3. I've already got some great existing link services locked into my strategy like DFB. Will I be able to seamlessly promote the other link TYPES efficiently around the profiles, SocBookmarks, and Directory Submissions that I already get there?

Thanks in advance,
Luke

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Berto

Good questions above. A lot of us are doing some advanced stuff.

For me, I'm going to give it a whirl on 3 domains that I have that are aged, have over 40 pages of content each, and settled but not ranking where I want them.

In terms of my new stuff though, I really want to see some way of getting new pages added to the mix without logging in and doing anything. I can code up a plugin to do some logic and shoot over new info to add, so I look forward to seeing that API stuff. If it works out I might be dropping other services and just going through this.

Detailed Q's:

- How are you spinning social bookmark titles, descriptions, and tags?
- What is the profile blast philosophy? How do you anchor? Does it get varied? Do you sometimes put the URL in there and stuff for natural-nes? Do you spin words around them?
- Are you backlinking the social bookmarks and web2.0's with blog comments/profiles? I've had mixed results here so I guess I don't care much. Just curious.

As far as PayPal snafus go, that sucks but isn't going to stop me. PayPal always sides on the side of the customer for things like this, so I don't expect any problems. These guys seem to be aggressively developing.

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TylerDurden

I think I just fell in love. Thanks Berto +rep

TylerDurden

Hey GangsterProfit. With the branded client login can we make it look like it's on our own URL such as "clientname.mycompanyname.com"?

EricVonDoobie

Looks sick as fuck. Love the proper use of "couldn't care less" in the video, props.

Definitely interested in hearing some more reviews from actual WF members but this definitely has my attention.

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cheshire

I never got an offer to repay any fees. It took about 24 hours to be refunded and I also asked to be contacted after you sorted it out to re-setup billing (since I had to cancel the paypal subscription) and I was never contacted. As of right now I am not a customer because of that. Seems like you guys just dropped the ball all over for me here

1 of the 2 refunds was sent via e-check. It took about 7 days to clear. No biggie, it was only $297 but it's still not right.

Glad you added more support staff, the turn around times were bad. I had big problems importing CSV's. I use a Mac though so maybe that complicated things. Even after you fixed my original issue I had weird buggy issues where it would duplicate data on import and sometimes just lose fields on certain things. Imports could take up to 35 minutes, or maybe just fail all together and never import anything.

With all that said the service itself is sick, really this is a wet dream as far as automated link building goes. All my favorite services packed into one package. It tiers it, finds content ... drooool. Super easy to use. Literally import your URLs via a CSV file, choose your keywords and let it go. The tiered structure of link building is perfect and the default setup works well. Just a set it and forget it.

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GangsterProfit

Hey, can you PM me your real name or your email address or your transaction ID? Trying to figure out which one of those you are.

Kevin

Otinsdale

I have tried it for the last month and a bit on a medium difficulty keyword with little success but I think it's more the keyword than anything. I'll try it on some new easier emds to see how it does on those, hopefully a bit better.

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GangsterProfit

Hey Luke,

This is the other co-founder writing now (Bobby).

1. For that amount of URLs/keywords you'd want to be on a Napoleon (2nd level) or higher package. The limiting factors are that the lowest plan allows a max of 50 URLs and 100 keywords, so they would both be exceeded. Then you just want to figure out the right amount of link building depending on how competitive your niches are. We allow you to spread your link building fairly thin, but you'll see better results if you purchase the appropriate amount.

2. A campaign isn't limited by URLs. It's like a folder, it's just an organizational tool. If you want to switch allocations though from one month to the next, that can be a bit of a pain but you could do it manually by editing target values to be 0, or you could even create a campaign for each month and pause one and then start another when the month is up. It's kind of strange, not exactly what we had in mind when we were designing the system, but we give you a lot of flexibility so if that's what you want to do, you should be able to accomplish it.

3. I'm not 100% sure if I understand the question, but if you're looking to get only certain types of links from Link Emperor and turn off others if you receive them somewhere else, you can definitely accomplish that. You get to set the allocation percentages, so if you don't want Link Emperor to be building profile links, you just allocate your credits to another service such as article directories or Google +1s, etc. You have full control over which services you order.

Hope that helps!

Bobby

GangsterProfit

Berto - Kevin's going to reply to your questions along with your support ticket when he gets a chance, so look out for that. He has more knowledge regarding the specifics of how we do certain things like spinning particular submissions, etc, since he coded it out.

We're definitely interested in setting up an API that would help you be more lazy... that's the point of the whole thing.

TylerDurden - Yep you certainly can. You can set up a CNAME, which is already built in under the Client Tab under My Account.

EricVonDoobie - Much appreciation on the grammar props, I was the 6th grade spelling bee champ and I think that really affected me in my formative years...

Cheshire -

I'm really sorry that happened. We are now using Assistly for our support tracking, so we are tracking response times (both average and maximum) with the overall goal of improving them.

I think we're doing pretty well (the number of currently open tickets is 0).

We are now tracking failures (such as import failures) more precisely and if something fails, we'll try to submit it again for you.

Got your PM and replied. I feel really bad about dropping the ball on that so hopefully we can make it up to you, that was definitely our bad.

Otinsdale - PM me your account info and I'll take a look to see if I can make any suggestions.

Much appreciation to everybody looking into our stuff. We're working hard to make it even better, once we get another programmer on board (hopefully this coming week) we'll really be cranking out new features.

Bobby

GangsterProfit

Titles -- we take your title tag and run it through TheBestSpinner.

Descriptions -- we take your META Description tag and run it through TheBestSpinner.

Tags -- we randomly choose 3 keywords from your page.

We may start using the anchor texts as the social bookmark titles, because that's what becomes the link (I'd like to hear your feedback on this) and switching up the tags to just be random words from like Google Trends or something. We're open to suggestions here -- let me know what you think.

We submit your keywords (in batches) to other vendors that do the Profile blasts. We generally use their default settings, which means that one link typically goes in the "homepage" field and then 1-2 more can go in the Signature field.

We may in the future allow you to customize this further (add spintax to the signature, etc.), but we don't support it yet. It's mainly because we've been mainly focused on trying to support many different vendors, and they don't all give you that much flexibility.

Currently we don't support tiering one type of blast to another (i.e. running Xrumer type blasts to the social bookmarks), but we DO support running your social bookmarks (and your forum profiles, etc.) through Nuclear Indexer and/or BacklinksIndexer so you can at least energize them a bit that way.

We do have some blast types that are tiered within themselves (such as an SENuke blast or a few other types of multi-tiered blasts).

Honestly, I expected being able to set up your own tiers would be something that lots of people would ask for, but that hasn't really been the case. So while we do want to do that in the future, it's not as high priority as the APIs and some other things.

lukep

Thanks Bobby; just thought of one more question:

Some of these submissions, especially articles & blog posts, require something to be written. And then usually spun. How is this content generation tackled?

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MSTeacher

am wondering that too.

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TylerDurden

^^^^^
They actually explain that a little bit at the bottom of this page:

Link Building Marketplace Credits | Link Emperor

What I'm wondering is if you only have a small package (that's what she said) such as the "Alexander" do you get any of the services that cost more credits such as Gripex's package that's 63,000 credits? It seems to me that with the Alexander which only gives you 1,000 credits a day it would take you two months or $300 to get this package. Is that correct logic?

GangsterProfit

Yeah, regarding the article submissions we currently require our vendors to produce the articles. However, we've had a lot of requests for people to be able to use their own articles with related content, so although it's not rolled out yet, Kevin has already developed an articles tab that integrates with Article Builder (Jonathan Leger's new product) that automatically creates and spins a high-quality article from one of various niches. It's really awesome. So you'll be able to decide if you want to upload your own or auto-create them from within the dashboard.

Our goal is to never require you to manually run or do anything once you've got your campaigns set up. It's the ultimate lazy SEO tool.

TylerDurden - Regarding small packages, lol, there are different default allocations depending on what plan you're on, but you can always allocate to anything that you want. So yes, if you were on the 30,000 a month plan and you chose to allocate some of your credits towards that Gripex deal, you'd end up saving up credits for 2 months every so often. Obviously that would be stupid, so we make a different default allocation for the smaller plans than the larger ones, and we try to fit in more of the cheaper link building so you're still getting a solid rotation of links throughout the month. The larger plans get some of the more credit-intensive services tossed into the default allocation, because some of those get you a better effective price per link, so they're a better deal overall, but would be too expensive for a smaller plan since you'd only get one or two blasts in a month.

Gripex's deal isn't in any of the default allocations though, because it's too expensive. We have an internal link checking tool that finds how many links are successful with the proper anchor text etc, and then compares that with the overall cost of the blasts to determine who's been the best deal over a trailing 2-week period. Then the default allocation will change automatically in order to try to get you the best deal. If a service is considered to be too expensive compared to the others, it won't make the cut.

This has helped us in the past, because you'd be surprised at the difference in quality between one link provider and another, even when they're promising the same exact service. We can figure it out very quickly when people are underperforming and cut them out. We allow people to change their allocations if they want though obviously -- this all applies solely to the default allocation. You can always check to see what it currently is, and build a custom allocation with those service percentages in mind.

Hope that helps,

Bobby

Marketcake

I've used this service so far (Kahn plan) for 2 months on 3 different sites. I've seen excellent ranking boosts on my 2 new sites. For my 3rd site which is already really competitive I hit a ceiling and couldn't seem to go much higher. However, I did get a single position bump which tripled income for that keyword, and 2 bumps on another keyword.

Berto

I jumped in today and will start reporting results when I kick off the campaigns tonight. I'm going to put in my 50 most important URLs and start with there. Most will be on two sites, and the rest between a few important URLs on other sites.

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GangsterProfit

Great news! Glad to hear you are getting excellent results with the system! Let us know if there is anything we can do to help.


Yours in Service,


Brett Phillips
Customer Support Specialist

GangsterProfit

Hi Berto!

Congats on your decision to join us! I look forward to hearing your results! Please don't hesitate to contact me at the support desk if there is anything I can do!


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Brett Phillips
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EricVonDoobie

Definitely going to follow this, can't wait to see what happens.

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EricVonDoobie

Oh, and do you allow adult sites?

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GangsterProfit

We do allow adult sites. Once we roll out some of our internal networks, we'll have to have separate networks for the adult and gambling sites, but for now all of our link building services can accept any types of sites. We should always fully support any type of site.

Berto, feel free to hit me up if you'd like me to take a personal look at your account and make sure you're set up optimally.

Bobby

Berto

OK well since we have followers, I'm going to set one URL at a pretty high ratio and do NOTHING else to it. It's on a pretty sweet PR4 domain I bought, 8800 local exact matches, and SerpIQ average is 46.

Starting Rank: 38.

I'm using this URL because I honestly don't understand WTF this stuff is (some herb) and don't care enough to buy other links at it. I'm going to make it the center of a silo on that site over time, so it does have a sitewide link to it, which is getting it the 38 ranking so far.

#1 is Wikipedia (SerpIQ 56) and #2 is some crazy site homepage with the keyword in it at SerpIQ = 78. Rounding out the Top 10 are some loserish EMDs and some other low quality pages. I want the EMPEROR to get this to #3.

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babylonian

Subscribed! Looking forward to see some results.

Enigmabomb

Saw the API talk being bandied about here...

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patates

I was going to try your service but after hearing it's open to adult and gambling sites, I decided not to do because my visitors are kids. Can you let us know what types of links are not going to be placed near (or with) adult ones?

Berto

Allright kids, I got 50 landers locked and loaded.

Comments:
- I wish Alexander plan had 75 landers. The pricing structure seems a bit TOO skewed in favor of the big package, but I don't need a zillion. Not a big deal, I'll still be upgrading if it works.
- The SEO Trouble Spots is awesome! It found a site that I don't have a privacy policy page listed, and another site where 301 redirecting isn't happening from non-www entries.

Regarding SEO Trouble Spots, I hope this looks at every lander as well. It would be sweet to double check that every page has the keyword somewhere in H1/H2/H3/em/strong/alt and not too high of density and only one H1 tag which comes first. Not sure how good it is, I'm pretty anal about my on-page SEO so maybe it does check that and I'm batting 1,000 on that stuff. But I doubt it.

After 10 minutes paid service, I'm still stuck at #38 for the keyword we're watching. Major disappointment!

Anyway, another one we're watching is a homepage currently ranking #97. New domain, 9900 exact matches, SerpIQ CI of 52, 30 pages of quality, related content, and a fucking beautiful site if I do say so myself.

This URL is getting a bit more link attention from me, but not much - on this site I'm actually focusing on an easier sub-page that's about a specific product so I can have the site make me some bank sooner than later.

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1yerrot

Thanks for the update Berto. Just subscribed to thread.

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GangsterProfit

If you are concerned about the types of sites your links are going to be placed on, you can go to Link Building > Service Allocations > Change Link Building Service Allocations and choose "Clean Link Sources Only" ... We don't use this ourselves because we don't think it makes any difference, but it's there for people who have clients that they don't want to show links from adult sites, etc.

The reason we don't care is because if all I had to do to harm my competitors was build a few adult links to them, then that would be a lot easier than trying to build a lot of quality links to my own sites. Google obviously knows that, and many of the biggest link providers advertised on SEO forums (particularly forum profile creators using Xrumer) have no problem building links on adult sites. If it were a real issue, they'd just prune their lists to remove those.

Bobby

lukep

Signed up for the Napoleon plan last night, gotta give this a try for myself... (Can't let Berto have all the fun.) Only problem now is finding time to put my hundreds of sites in... To target a couple of landers each is going to take some real time and work on my part, but I can easily see how it will be worth it in time.

I agree with Berto that the on-page stuff is very handy. It certainly doesn't go deep like SerpIQ and lots of SEO suite software does, but if you're dealing with multiple sites to promote than the level it does go into is just right.

Since you guys launched this as a WSO I'll forgive you for not knowing this; but around Wickedfire you don't need to explain this kind of stuff. It's too elementary for just about everyone here. We constantly make fun of the WaFo mindset, in fact.

I think you'd do best explaining Link Emperor to WickedFire folk as thus:

1. It is the front-end of a marketplace of well-tested Backlinks for all types of link properties...

2. That Automatically deploy strategically to all of the individual landers you care about...

3. Using longtail keywords that we help you find automatically and rank the importance of, all hands free.

-This concept is something that would appeal to many here... As it is I think most of us see your WSO and bounce because you've had to dumb it down so far. Hope that helps.

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Berto

My little update is that I'm realizing that at 1,000 credits per day, I'm really not going to get much to spread to 50 landers. So I stopped half of my campaigns.

I'm now targeting 19 landers (included the two that we're watching). I want to bump up the priority on the 2 that we're monitoring, but I can't figure out how to change the "per click value". Might be my browser.

I'm most interested in how this system chooses to use my 1,000 credits per day and how it prioritizes my URLs:
Link Building Marketplace Credits | Link Emperor

If it works it wisely, then I'll have no problem upgrading so that I can hit my 75 or so care-about URLs over time. I don't really need immediate SERP boosts. I'm looking for longevity and diversity to keep my domains alive and well.

I'm sure we could also break out the spreadsheets and see if the rates on the link above are really worth it, but I'm sick of being in analyze and paralyze mode. I need to go produce some stuff, not analyze every last cent. Maybe later.

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tangy

30,000 backlinks a month? I'd have no problem sending that to 50 different pages.

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Berto

$150 for 30,000 xrumer profiles is not a good deal, so not really. I've never been able to automate Web 2.0 creation and random slop I never bother ordering (SENuke style stuff)... if this will work with BLG and LinkPushing to do that, then it's a win for me.

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lukep

They've got the default set up to go 6% to BacklinkGenie's forum Profiles, and 4% to go to DFB's forum profiles, so that's 10% right there, and sadly it probably overlaps a bit.

Since I have a few old DFB accounts, I decided to rip out all of their forum profiles and social bookmarking links and allocate those percentage points to things like blog posts, .gov/.edu links, and G+es. Time will tell, but it seems to be a little ahead of schedule releasing the links for me right now... It's been almost 24 hours and it reports that it has used 170% or so of 1 day's allotment... so it comes in spurts.

Under "Completed blasts" it doesn't show what's done yet, probably because the vendors haven't finished them yet, but under "Credit Transactions it shows me exactly what it sent those credits to. That page looks like a running ledger of your monthly addition of links and the debits out to vendors so far.

So far so good; This shit is running quite smoothly... But like Berto I'm limited in what I can promote so far, and will probably have to upgrade to the Khan account soon anyway for all these landers I want to promote. (Not to mention Campaigns... Really wish we could separate our campaigns far better, but oh well.)

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Interesting. I never set this, but I'm at the default. My DFB campaigns are not running because I have a bookmarking / profiling backlog of new URLs I've been blasting, so I'll let this rock.

I like that a good portion is going to LinkPushing and Articles. Two things I definitely don't do enough of.

Do I really need 14% of my credits going to BacklinksIndexer.com and another 9% going to Nuclear Link Indexer though? That's kind of a lot, no? I've always been a "let google naturally discover crap", although all of my links are not getting indexed as well.

I might bump those two down, but I think the admins maybe set it for a reason. Comments from the Emperors?

Let me know what your percentages are. Maybe there's good discussion in their forums.

PS lukep - Don't reply to this. You got 3000 posts coming up next and you better not waste it on a response to this thread

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Pb.com

bookmarked this to check out later

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lukep

I noticed that the original default for backlinxIndexer.com in the training vid was something like 45%! -Safe to say they've lowered their expectations a bit.

Gotcha Covered. -But thanks for the warning!

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GangsterProfit

Hey Guys,

Sorry I wasn't around to respond for the last 2 days, was blissfully eating turkey...

First, thanks for signing up! I'll take your advice on this one. We're still trying to figure out what the best way is to explain it to different people since the software does a lot, but if that's a better way to present it then I'm all for testing it out. I realize WaFo and WF are very different, I've been a lurker around here for a number of years but created a new account when we launched Link Emperor so we could create a "brand" that was the same on multiple forums...

I forgot to mention, but since you guys are on WickedFire we'll happily set you up with a 15% discount. Just send me a PM, or you can find a link for it on the original SBT thread we set up.

What do you mean, just having more campaigns? Or some other functionality?

We go back and forth on this. As it is, the indexing only goes to profile links, social bookmarks, and other internal-page style links that have less chance of being indexed. We don't run it to blog comments or article posts etc because those have a much higher chance of being indexed without backlinking.

We go back and forth on the question of indexing. To be honest, we'd like to do a much more in-depth study of the results but haven't had time. Also the fact that they don't report the specific links that they've built back to us makes it difficult to measure. Since they are fairly expensive, it's a judgment call you'll have to make, but this is the ratio we use for our own sites though as of now.

Good catch! It's true, we've lowered the indexing ratios a good amount. Indexing is expensive, but mainly we've just incorporated a lot of other link building services since filming those videos which have really improved the overall mix.

By the way, I read through your 3k post, and found a lot of value in there. Thanks a lot!

If you have specific requests regarding features you'd like to see added into Link Emperor, shoot us an email. We're always actively looking for ideas from people who have similar thought processes to our own. We originally built our software with sites like yours in mind (mass amounts of amazon auto-stores, specifically) and the software has taken on a ton of new features since then, but we have a 2nd full-time programmer now who we're going to be putting to the task of adding tons of new features in. So let us know!

Bobby

lukep

More campaigns would do very nicely. My personal needs will soon be 50 different camps, but one day I'll likely double that too.


Awesome! Can I get a sponsorship now?

Sounds great, will do... Once fully recovered from turkey-induced hallucinations and I find time to finish get all my first wave of landers/KWs in place. Thanks again!

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WickedRon

Subscribed for the Cesar Package. I will let everyone know how it goes.

GangsterProfit

Gotcha. We used to offer more campaigns, but we found that people didn't really understand what they were and thought that because they had 50 campaigns it meant they were supposed to be using them all or something.. So we lowered the number. But if you just want to break your landers down into further detail, send us a PM and we can increase the number of campaigns you have. We see them as being more or less just like folders.


Haha definitely, if we ever get T-shirts printed up I'll send you one.

Cool, no problem!

Awesome! Let us know if you have any questions or need help with anything.

Bobby

taktikz

Testing this thing out.. Will report back

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Thanks taktikz! Please don't hesitate to contact us at Link Emperor | Portal if you have any questions.


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Brett Phillips
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EricVonDoobie

Any updates on this from the people testing it yet?

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