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Old 12-22-2011, 03:07 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Watched the whole thing and enjoyed it very much. Thanks for the share. It was very entertaining and I found his response to the guy asking to tweet about his company hilarious.
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"People will rely on what other people say to make a purchase"

I hate it when people make this assumption.

I don't rely on my friends for advice on what to purchase etc....

....Because my friends are dumbasses
I bet your friends listen to you though?

Every social group, including small groups and very close groups like families often have one or 2 leaders that go out and try new things before everyone else knows about it, when they check it out they will go and let their friends/family/people know about it and it will influence them in their decision process whether or not to pick it up.

Social Media steps in and instead of only telling people you can directly talk to via speech it boosts that range of your message to everyone that is in your social circle.

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Social is for... Social stuff more than buying. Its important but i think the money will remain in search, particularly with mobile.
I don't do social a lot, but I understand selling, and selling is almost entirely emotion and social based. You might think you're a rational shopper, but I guarantee you that you're motivated to act for emotional purposes.

Every marketer knows the power of personal endorsements and recommendations. Review sites are in fact social marketing sites.

Government makes a marketer's job easier, since they make sure people behave like sheep, and accept herd signals when making any decisions, whether it is financial, emotional, political etc.

Take a look at multi-million dollar or sterling ad campaigns. See more emotional hooks than hard data and price promotion? Of course.

Most internet marketers build their websites like price sheets. Look at PPC landers. There is nothing rational about them at all. The entire thing is one massive set of CTA triggers. And those pages convert like mad. By comparison, the conversion rates of some SEO people I work with look pathetic in comparison, even for the winners.
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I hire Indian bros to update FB status and tweet shit. I also hire college kids to shoot youtube videos.

The real money is in the products and conversions, not being a faggot on Facebook and Twitter all day.

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if you only have time to watch 5 minutes of this video then go all the way to the end and listen to the very last question
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+1 word of mouth, but as he said content is being reused every day. Same old shit. Reminds me of the SEO service section of every webmaster forum
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Reach out and be decent to your clients. Make sure they know you give a damn about them, and you do, because if you don't they will wander from your business.
Sure, but being responsive, cordial and helpful to your customers hasn't started with Gary. It's just a difference between being someone who cares and someone who doesn't (only chasing money). Never outsource your customer support, ever. Today when most companies have crappy support people will appreciate you having even a decent one and will recommend you just based on the fact you took them seriously and treated them like a human being.

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All of my biggest wins not directly related to hacking Google have been from relationship building, which is basically hard work applied socially. It's not rocket surgery.
Getting a good mentor and socialising with like minded entrepreneurial people is a must, but also hasn't started with Gary. I surely cannot wade through an hour of meaningless dribble to basically learn "don't be a douche-bag and... oh yeah, network a bit and ask for things." Geez.
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Perhaps didn't watch the video, because he never said it did. He makes the point that this is a traditional business model that has gotten lost in recent times.

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I surely cannot wade through an hour of meaningless dribble to basically learn "don't be a douche-bag and... oh yeah, network a bit and ask for things." Geez.
Maybe you know everything, and get asked to speak around the world and contract with the world's largest corporations and have best selling books.

In that case, there are very few people you might be able to learn from when it comes to basic business skills.

For the rest of us who are a little less successful than you, seeing these ideas in action can be quite valuable.

I figured out what the guru thing is about and why it is so lucrative. It's not, "people are dumb" which is true, particularly people who comment on content they haven't watched, but that people want information, and whoever can provide the information in the simplest, most entertaining form wins.

That's what Tony Robbins and the lecture circuit guys do. They aren't selling their expertise, although that is what it may look like on the outside. They are selling their ability to get an idea or a pitch across.

Gary V is an expert on wine, the NY Jets and customer service, but he is a master at communication and social interaction. And if you sell to people, that's always an important aspect of what you do.

So don't listen to Gary only for what he is saying, listen so you can understand how he is saying it and why he is so tremendously successful with that approach.

Or don't. Deliberately deny yourself an opportunity to learn something new and gain more perspective. I'm sure that will work out just as well.
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Gertex really puts his money where his mouth is.

Today I finally made my way to my post office box to clear out the post-Christmas mail, and found a package addressed to "guerilla" that I had to sign for.

I had to explain to the postal worker that I am not in fact waging a campaign of insurgency and terrorism, but that it is an unclever nickname.

Inside, Gertex had written me a very personal letter and included a number of really cool gifts, including a one of a kind glass blown candle holder from Germany.

While gift giving isn't radical or new, Gertex and I have never met, never friended on FB, don't exchange photos or do video chats. We had one phone call about social marketing in the summer, and some other text chats on skype, mostly in a group context.

He gets the thank you economy. And you can bet that anytime he calls, I am going to pick up the phone because I know he values my time and that I value his.

Earlier this year, Flatline offered to send me some oranges from his garden, and while I didn't take him up on the offer, I have never forgotten the sentiment.

He's another guy who gets the thank you economy. Is it a surprise that these guys are approaching middle age and they have pre-internet relationship values? I don't think so. Old guys rule.
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So don't listen to Gary only for what he is saying, listen so you can understand how he is saying it and why he is so tremendously successful with that approach.

Or don't. Deliberately deny yourself an opportunity to learn something new and gain more perspective. I'm sure that will work out just as well.
Gary is being Gary, any one of you trying to emulate him will come across as fake. You should understand that.

Also I am right on this one and you are wrong. Simple as that. Dismissing me as some kind of a noob that has to listen to some hyped what-should-be-common-sense would be a mistake.

I do acknowledge some people new to business might take something from it. The fact that he speaks in front of audiences and gets recorded means absolutely nothing about his correctness on anything. It means as you have correctly pointed out ONLY that he is entertaining to listen to. That's it, people would rather listen to entertainment than content. And that is the lesson.

You seem to enjoy "gifts". When everyone and their dog does it it loses it's power, until then it will work.
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Dismissing me as some kind of a noob that has to listen to some hyped what-should-be-common-sense would be a mistake.
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That's it, people would rather listen to entertainment than content. And that is the lesson.
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First thought, so you mean adsense farms aren't actually going to make LukeP a billionaire?

Second thought, glad I've been building a brand. Everything I do has the company logo on it, the car, the cell phone wp, the desktop wps, my dog's name (I also did one more thing that would pretty much give away who I am if I said it lol)... I need to do more thank you stuff though, this was a great refresher.
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I dont think i would ever use social to research or buy financial products, but i may use it to find a financial advisor.

I may use social to get recommendations on a new laptop, as well as recommendations for online retailers, but i would always check prices via search engines to be sure there wasnt a better deal going.

That is why Google make so much more than facebook.

Social is for... Social stuff more than buying. Its important but i think the money will remain in search, particularly with mobile.
lololol

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"the're not even looking at the fucking road" lol

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So actually taking the time to learn about your customer on a personal level is a mistake and fake?

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Also I am right on this one and you are wrong. Simple as that. Dismissing me as some kind of a noob
Just the fact that you have to explain yourself in this mannor makes you a noob.

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I do acknowledge some people new to business might take something from it. The fact that he speaks in front of audiences and gets recorded means absolutely nothing about his correctness on anything. It means as you have correctly pointed out ONLY that he is entertaining to listen to. That's it, people would rather listen to entertainment than content. And that is the lesson.

You seem to enjoy "gifts". When everyone and their dog does it it loses it's power, until then it will work.
So if someone has been in business for sometime they cant take anything away from something like this? Have you ever actually been in business? If you think that doing something as simple as sending a hand written note is noneffective you are really showing your ignorance. The reason people watch videos like this or attend seminars is not to learn how to reinvent the wheel. Sometimes its just to plant an idea in your mind or even to remind you of things that you used to do but stopped doing because it worked so well. It doesn't even matter if you watched this or even went to see it live, you would be in the 95% that sit there and never do anything with what you learn there.

Why do you come to WickedFire? Is it to learn something? Networking? or Entertainment? There are no original ideas on WF or even the internet so whats the point? It seems to me that you don't have the mental capacity to look past the words that are spoken and this is what is going to keep you strapped to the ground, never being able to reach a true level of success (no matter how much you earn) because you are nothing more than a simpleton.

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Oh, so putting your logo on shit and sending postcards made you a billionaire?
Exactly... You figured me out guy. Gotta go sell water bottles with my logo on the corner now.
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