Dresden14

......and here comes the bullshit jewish propaganda news releases trying to trash the only man that can just possibly; save this country from immigration and foreign threat.. Obviously, the dude keeps winning @ the polls, I seriously doubt the masses voted for obama. Although he keeps winning, im sure 'the powers that be' wont allow this man to win. This is blasted on yahoo's homepage.

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charlesmartel

If the founding fathers were around today, they'd be driven into the ocean. Not so much a reflection of their views but on the degeneracy of the average American today.

ly2 from WF

I noticed the heavy anti-jew bullshit that's been coming out the past few days. Unlike Dresden I happen to like Israel and Jews. However, I don't like them more than my own country.

america > israel

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I always love to look at the comments for these online pieces trying to ostracize RP, It's always 98% calling bullshit on it. Of course those offended by an article are more likely to comment on it, but I don't see such a fierce defense when they dig up shit on the other candidates. It's a good sign.

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Is that racist?

Ryan

That sounds not racist but more so logical to me.

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I thought all are immigrants except the Native Americans.

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turbolapp

You guys want some blood boiling this morning? Saw this on the Today show: TODAY Video Player

Start @ 2:07

"This is a game of where does Mitt romney finish and where does Newt gingrich finish. If any of those finish above mitt romney that are not named ron paul, they will be the actual winner. If mitt romney finishes second to ron paul it's still a victory because...it's just ron paul"

Dresden14

The native americans were not here first.... If this guy doesnt win, there's no fucking hope for our country. He's the only guy that has the balls to carry out what needs to be done in regards to national security which has nothing to do with racism. I seriously don't believe in voting and believe that the powers that be will allow whomever they feel is in their best interest to be elected. Do ya really think the masses voted for obama? lol.

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music4mic

^ The correct answer.

Of course, RP doesn't want to harm jews, he just wants to stop sending money to Israel. I think it's safe to say that they can handle their own shit over there at this point.

LOL. MSM fail. The whole "Paul doesn't exist" doesn't really work when he starts winning states idiots.

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Ron Paul doesn't think Israel is more trouble than it's worth. All he's been saying is that Israel can take care of itself, because well... Israel has said, "We can take care of ourselves, use your money to support your own country right now."

I suggest you look at the Ron Paul spot on Leno a couple of weeks back where he said just this.

All of Ron Paul's foreign aid policy is about allowing the "people" to support those causes Internationally where they want, it's not part of the Federal Government's role, because the FED has time and again proven that it will do it irresponsibly and inefficiently.

As far as Foreign Policy where war is concerned, it's about stop sticking our noses in other people's business when our own country is fucked up. As Ron Paul has said time and again, "We can either use the budget to be the policemen of the world or a welfare state, not both because you'll end up bankrupt... as great nations such as Rome have shown."

Of course the Mainstream Media doesn't care about putting his points in context, they just take a snippet and let it be viewed out of context to harm his message. When you look at it in context, his policy point is a very strong one.

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I don't see how not supporting Israel is considered racist. Infact, the whole thing is bizarre to me and really kind of a reversal on racism (I'm not even sure racism is the correct term we're using here) The politicians always fanatically support Israel over every other country in the region. If anything, Paul's stance is non-biased. I've heard a lot of stupid arguments on what people try to convince other people is and isn't racist, but saying that a person is racist because they want to practice a policy of non biased non interference for every country is just retarded.

Imhotep

Pretty much sadly the harsh truth...

Why people who believe in freedom and democracy are looked at as loons these days is beyond me... Though one reason that continues to stick in my mind is that this country has bred weakness and coward mentality to it's masses for so long that anything that erodes the false sense of security is bad, while limiting freedom looks good to the masses of weaklings! It's like reverse Darwinism, survival of the weakest!

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I'm not saying that jews control the media, but I mean since jews control the media and all...

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lol despite me being Christian, I do enjoy watching that show. blah.and yeah he should be the official wickedfire mascot (saw this in some other thread).

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paulieg

this.

unfortunately, anyone who does not support zionism in general or some of the morally reprehensible things the state of israel does is automatically labelled an anti-semite. ron paul doesn't even go that far and he's getting clobbered with all this nonsense.

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RaptorJesus

Jews own all the gold. Why the fuck do they need our money?

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Bachmann Defector Rejects Claim Of Being Bought Off By Paul Camp | Fox News

Bachmann accuses Sorenson of being bought off by the Ron Paul people.

Sorenson refutes that claim.

peacestone

By not supporting Zionism "in general", you mean not agreeing that Jews deserve a state of their own, which in essence is discrediting their claim to a homeland and = anti-semetic. Thats like saying anyone who does not believe that America has a right to exist is not anti-american. Of course they are Anti-American. Not supporting "things" the state of Israel does, does not constitute antisemitism, same as here where someone who is against the war in Iraq can still be pro-american, even though they may be walking on a fine line...

Andrew Scherer

What about the Jews who don't support Zionism, are they anti-semetic too?

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peacestone

They are self hating jews. Like americans who who dont support america are anti-american, why is this so complicated to grasp?

papajohn56

Want less welfare? get called racist by the left. Want less aid to Israel? get called racist by the right. It's lose/lose for many libertarians.

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You are an idiot. Someone that doesn't support Zionism is not necessarily Anti-Semitic. An Anti-Semite will hate a Jew even if he's just a fucking Barista in a Manhattan Starbucks. Someone that doesn't agree with Zionism just doesn't support the political philosophy of Zionism. Noam Chomsky is a Jew that speaks out against the dangers of Zionism, but he's not a fucking Anti-Semite you dumb shit.

In your example you use "American" as an analogy, but your analogy is flawed. "American" is simple a citizenship, not a race or religion. Calling someone an Anti-Semite is saying that they are "Racist", rather than just against a country or a political philosophy such as Zionism. Pretty sure you're just trolling, but fuck it I'm bored.

charlesmartel

This is idiocy. Just because one group of people wants something and you don't agree with the way they're going about it doesn't mean you're "anti-them". Instead of displacing existing people with force, perhaps they'd get more support if they tried to buy into somewhere. Look at Africa. Lots of space.

peacestone

Chomsky is the biggest self hating jew on the planet you dumb fucktard. And yes, ant-zionism is the belief that jews do not have the right to self determination, and to believe that all people in the world have a right to self determination except the jews is RACIST! You dumb fuckin moran go flush your head in the toilet.

guerilla

Being Semitic is not exclusive to being Jewish or a Zionist.

LMAO.

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I have to introduce you to Hellblazer. You guys would be an amazing duo at parties.

This is the most epic troll ever.

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peacestone

Big difference between saying Americans want to cut military aid to Israel and saying that we no longer support Israels right to exist. I have many libertarian friends who support Israels right to exist but don't want to see their tax money going towards F-15's for Israel. I can respect that, although I disagree completely.

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It's always easy to spend other people's money.

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d_diggler

Assume I'm a farm hand in Utah slinging shit for $50 a day, can you justify to me why I should give up part of this to support Isreal [or insert any other country state here]...

I'm goning to guess the only answer is because that's what you want and everyone else can fuck off.

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slayerment

This. Jews are not the only Semites. And ~80% of Jews in Israel are not Jews by blood anyway. The whole thing is pure bullshit. Even in their own literature the Jews describe in detail how they are only 1 of 12 Semitic tribes of Israel and how the Arab people are also Semitic. They're laughing at the dipshit American sheep.

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Id like to hear a reply to this, great post.

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Rexibit

Yup, which is why Congress needs to stop earmarking every single bill they pass to fund totally unrelated shit.

If they had a single monthly budgeted distribution of their funds they approved for in their yearly budget, then people would be shocked at all the wasteful spending that tax money goes towards when the dispersion is out in the open.

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guerilla

Earmarking isn't the problem. Earmarks are part of the appropriation process necessary to keep a check on the system. Yes, they get abused, and everyone knows about the Bridge to Nowhere, but those are the exceptions, not the rule.

Whatever is not appropriated by the Congress through earmarking, is given to the Executive to spend without any congressional oversight.

The solution is to reduce the amount of money to be appropriated (introduce scarcity) and you will see the process reform itself. Right now the budgeting is all based on deficit finance, and so there is no incentive for a politician to not earmark everything, no matter how outrageous, because if they don't earmark they lose votes, and if they do earmark, obvious tax rates do not go up. The tax is paid in inflation which very few people detect and even fewer understand.

The appropriations system is actually very elegant, it has gotten a bad name from conservative activists with their own agenda to pursue.

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What I want to know is why is the Earmarking system we have better than simply introducing everything separately, no matter how big or small?

By its' very nature it leads to inflation as you pointed out yourself, and it is also very obviously a way to hide expenditures from the public at large. It's simply dishonest.

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guerilla

Because big and small are subjective. The easiest way to hide a big expenditure is to break it into many small ones.

What people are worried about with most political issues is superficial and doesn't address the root problem. The problem is the role of government and how government is funded. Until those are addressed, everything else is just tinkering.

Now, if people want to tinker, I say go for it. But let's not tinker and pretend any problems are really going to be solved.

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That's why I said "no matter how big or small." I see the necessity in that, although I know (firsthand, actually) how much paperwork that would add to the dockets of congress.

I still say it's worth it tho. Moving forward at a snail's pace would be far better than moving in random and harmful directions like we do now.


You know I fully agree with the fact that the real, deepest underlying problems have their basis in our corporatism/cronyism/socialism-based state owned by the banks and the military industrial complex... But until you have a decent plan to stop that giant problem, all you can actually do to affect favorable change is to aim for bad laws like these and make them better.

No, it won't feed starving children in africa and cure male pattern baldness, but it does seem to me at least that doing this will force lawmakers in washington to create & pass fewer shitty bills... And these days that seems to be all they do pass.

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So Ron Paul is the new "messiah"?

lukep

LOL... No, the Messiah was supposed to just deliver Jews to the promised land...


But if you're asking if we are all jumping in Dr. Paul's boat as if he were a super-human savior incapable of doing wrong, I'd have to say that we feel the way we do about him because of a 30-year track record of extreme devotion... So at the very least we expect his performance in the white house will be more along the lines of his well-known beliefs than the other guys' will.

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Obviously it isn't racist. But people will play the race card every fucking chance they get because we live in a pathetic society of finger-pointers who like to make others feel guilty about something.

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It's funny that so much emphasis is placed on race and racism when the largest disparity in America exists between income brackets. Racism is like abortion, just another polarizing issue which is largely inconsequential in our day-to-day lives that can be used as a distraction.

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That ^^ is why I only do business with Honey Badger Web Assets.

They have their liberty game proper, and they are masters of the free market.

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guerilla

How will it force them to do anything?

These are the people who have spent your grandchildren's taxes before they were born. These are the people who have saddled you with SOPA, NDAA and the Patriot Act.

Do you really think you're going to be able to control them with some procedural guidelines, when you have already surrendered to them absolute power over life and property?

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minsco

Sooo what if I support a Jewish homeland in the middle of Utah? There are these people called thr Palestinians that you know, exist... At this point I believe that they should both work together but that's still a stretch... your point is very flawed though...

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lukep

Control them? No. You're right in that they'll find more ways to screw us over... However, earmarks may be their best tool to hide the big, evil secrets from the american people, and if so, removing them would at the very least give us a year or two of far-more-honest government while they scramble behind the scenes to regain ground.

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learningcurve

Wait a second, colour me dumb, but isn't being Jewish based on religion and not an actual race? If that is correct (and I'm not saying it is), then how the fuck is any of this racial??

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