charlesmartel

I rate this thread 5 sticks of butter!

danke

Sounds like total BS.

My IQ is pretty fucking high and I love the big titties...

I am willing to admit that I probably have some Mommy issues though.

Yeah... Let's start there, some Freudian maternal deprivation or Oedipus complex seems likelier.

I wouldn't turn down a pair of tiny tits though, just not interested in the fat chicks. Why should I work out for two hours a day just to give myself up to a lard ass who memorized the Sonics beverage menu?

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God no. See post above, I've got curves. I'm 5 lbs more than I was after my second kid and about 5 to 8 lbs more than I was before having the first. So net gain of somewhere between 10-13lbs in the last 10 years. Having kids does change things, but that being said most of the time it's just an excuse. I haven't noticed a metabolism change; I still maintain at about 1600 calories a day. Although I have noticed that the fat goes to different places than before. Don't know what the hell that's about.

If I had to guess, with most cases of weight gain, it's somewhere between genetics and emotional eating. I don't think people understand the depth of emotional eating; It's not just "oh I'm stressed, I'm going to eat oreos". Look at like cutting. Infact it's alot like cutting, but with food. You're punishing yourself (for whatever) and it both simultaneously hurts and feels good. Women aren't allowed to hate, be angry, punch and kick so they internalize and eat. Now why is this so much more prevalent in the US than other countries? That's a whole other can a worms for another thread.

My question is why are so many men overweight? Are you guys emotional eaters too or just clueless about what/how much your eating?

Rage9

You haven't met my last girlfriend. Lol.

I think it can go any number of ways. Some people lose hope I think. You have to be dedicated to being skinny or fit in general and it's hard to get off your ass and hit the gym and eat right in order to look good. But what happens if you hit 3 bills, you're facing a mountain. It's a lot more psychologically intimidating.

In my case it was part dedication, part not understanding what exactly I was eating and putting in my body, part not knowing where to start. A year and a half ago I was over 240 lbs (I'm 6'2"), and just got disgusted with myself. Cut myself down to 215, then all the way back to 230 by years end. I was starting to look good and just took my foot off the gas. This year I've cut down to 215 and put on a bit of muscle through weight training and will continue to do so. I cook nearly all my meals these days. I've realised I have to change how I eat and operate.

Guys generally don't know how to cook, so they eat all this processed garbage food, because it's quick an easy. It's like going grocery shopping with one of my friends who's not exactly skinny, and just watching what he buys: frozen dinners, frozen pizzas, chips, etc... It's easy to lose your sense of portion size. For example at most restaurants (especially sit down places) most means are meant to be two portions, but who the fuck eats only half of what they get? Before you know it you get use to these really big portions of food, and it's the amount of food you expect to eat when you do eat. Thus when you make food yourself you eat that amount of food even though it's WAY too much. It's a hard thing to adjust to. When I was younger I was well fed, lots of mothers push their children to eat. You know when they say, "He's a growing boy afterall!" So large portions become the norm, some escape from it some don't. My brother is a twig compared to me, he's just a super picky eater and he's only ever eaten small portions for some odd reason. So I can't say it a defining factor, some people are just wired that way. Some people like a few of my friends just seem to have fantastic genetics and can eat anything they want and they won't gain any weight. They'll even complain that they can't gain any weight.

In conclusion, there is no single answer.

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guysmy

The “American diet” is spreading globally. New generations are giving up traditional diets tied into their culture. They are living and dying like Americans.

Dean Ornish has a segment of slides that show obesity is growing every year in the US at an alarming rate. Anecdotally there seems to be a similar trend going on here in Canada.

At times I get comments that I’m thin or skinny when in reality my BMI is bang on normal and optimum for good health. What is considered “normal” is skewing into the realm of overweight and fast approaching mildly obese.

This is what scares me the most. People in good shape are beginning to stick out and are fast becoming the minority.

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amanda11

It's the lack of fat shaming in America.

If everyone collectively fat shamed fat fucks, the obesity would drop like a fat man dying from cardiac arrest.

[Cooking at home is simple: eating oat meals and fruits for breakfast. Salad with baked chicken for lunch.

Fitness can achieve by simple body weight exercises.

At the end of the day, it's all about excuses and more excuses]

dangregory

True. Rage9 also makes some good points about how we're not taught how many calories are in different things and especially men are often actively discouraged from cooking since their moms consider that "their territory" and make you feel like shit if you even go to try to cook your own fucking hamburger for lunch (because you're obviously going to do it wrong or burn down the house. That was my mother's attitude, anyway. Took me til college before I could finally have fun in the kitchen.)

We eat out a lot and always take half of everything home for the next night. We honestly aren't hungry enough to ever eat everything on our plates at the typical restaurant, plus it's one less meal to cook the next night. Everybody around us treats us like we're insane as they sit there in their fat suits eating everything on the plate.

I'm a fan of the Meditteranean style of eating: a little bread, a little meat and cheese, a couple of glasses of a nice wine, and some salad or veg. How can you not feel full and complete if you're eating things that taste good and please your palate?

Our taste buds are all screwed up in America. We think "salt" is a "flavor" or "fatty/buttery" is a flavor. It's not. Try herbs and interesting textures in your food and you'll enjoy it. I hate that Olive Garden/TGIF/Outback crap which is usually face meat served with 700 calories of butter and loads of salt, not real food at all. Go to places where a meal for two with a bottle of wine will run you $200 and you'll be eating much better quality food and won't fatten up, portions will be French style, not American style, and you'll savor each bite that you're eating. Stop the chowing down at the cattle trough style of eating, which most of us grew up with.

PS: I just remembered this fat kid I knew in high school who spent one fall as an exchange student in his junior year. He came back thin and healthy. Why? he was living in France and his big complaint about his host family was how they served such "small" portions of food. I had him clarify this. A piece of meat no bigger than your palm, a few small side dishes or a salad, some wine. That's how you SHOULD be eating, shit face. He gained his chub back within six months since his parents were typical "Stuff your growing son to death because he's a growing boy" people. Fuck them. He's had weight problems his whole life EXCEPT for that fall he spent abroad.

wezcountry

I know a Debbie who is the wife of a friend and is shaped like a pencil.

jmizzle

Or... A lack of self-control, accountability, poor upbringing and a sedentary lifestyle. I'll allow the genetics card for 15-25 lbs overweight. However, no one can claim "genetics is why I'm fat" when they are 100lbs overweight. My other favorite excuse is "I must have a thyroid problem".

It's a pretty simple law of physics - mass can be neither created nor destroyed. Those calories that were converted to fat due to not being converted into energy didn't get eaten all by themselves.


For the exact same reasons as above. Also, (and I don't mean this in a sexist way) families no longer have the mother at home creating home cooked meals with natural ingredients. "Dinner in a box" is the new norm. Very few of the people I know can go to the supermarket and leave with the ingredients for a hearty, healthy meal that doesn't include something that comes in a box or out of a can.

Most of my trips to the supermarket are to the produce section, then the fish counter and check-out. Many Americans skip the produce section completely.


Then... people stay fat because we're suppose to all be tolerant, hand-holding, kumbaiya-singing, accepting pussies and not shame those that make terrible decisions in their lives because we might hurt their feelings. Well, if being disgustingly fat was openly taboo then there'd be some social incentive to avoid it.

AmpedTyler

You're definitely not alone there. My mother wouldn't let me use the oven alone if she had a say in it, although nothing ever actually went wrong. Problem is that when they throw the 'irresponsibility card' at you over and over (even for no good raisin) it eventually sets in - took me a while to bite the bullet and start making my own home-cooked meals.

BigWill

I get the same thing. I would say 80% of the people in my city are overweight. I work out every day and my BMI is perfect and im in great shape. Most of these people huff and puff just walking from their cars into the grocery store to get more cake.

BigWill

I wouldn't even let someone get away with genetics thing for even 15-25lbs overweight unless they have some crazy disease that makes them unable to burn fat for fuel or retain large amounts of water or something.

15-25lbs is a SHITLOAD of fat.

Dwight Schrute

I lost 40lbs. this year.

How did I lose it? Stopped eating shitty food, ate more good food often, exercised.

How did I gain it previously? In college I didn't exercise, sat around and fapped all day, ate nothing but shit fast food, and sat on my ass playing video games.

Being grossly overweight is laziness. No genetics. You're a lard ass because you act like one.

Women have extra fat because that's how they are designed. A chick can workout all the time and still have belly fat, not because she's lazy but because women are supposed to have some fat around their midsections. It's healthy because they are supposed to get pregnant, have their skin stretch, and still have protection for the baby.

It was never cool to have a woman look like an emaciated Ethiopian until recently. Look at all the hotties from back in the day. People would call Marilyn Monroe a cow today.

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dangregory

That is so cool, man, that you bit the bullet and lost that weight. Your health is bound to be better over time than it would have been before.

And yeah, all the stuff with preservatives and additives I believe contributes to weight problems; not just the calories, I'm convinced something chemical is going on. Because people who eat food that's "alive" (meat and produce, nothing frozen, preserved, or in a box or a can) tend to be thinner. If you're only eating stuff that can sit in your pantry for months without going bad, I don't think it's good, and I really do think it contributes to weight gain.

I agree that our notions of what is attractive, female wise, are pretty screwed when we require our women to be these unrealistic mixtures of completely anorexic looking everywhere but the boobs. Thin women don't usually have huge boobs naturally so all women grow up with this fucked up mixed message that they need to be unnaturally skinny PLUS have boobs to the max. Other than the rare Angelina Jolie type, this simply doesn't exist in nature. Look at runway models. They look like concentration camp victims and unless they have implants (like Heidi Klum) they just look thin and scary.

Marilyn Monroe! Don't get me started. What a hot babe. CURVES and she knew how to use them. Women CAN be sexy whatever their body type and size. It's just a tragedy when a woman who is very beautiful when she is young eats up to twice her size over time; such self-abuse really is a sign of something bad going on, I think.

turbolapp

Actually there's a great book "French Women Don't Get Fat". The philosophy is, essentially, eat rich and wonderfully tasty foods smothered in butter. Drink wine. Eat bread. Definitely eat desserts. Just do it in small portions and walk alot. (Apparently in France, or at least Paris, they walk everywhere) This is how to live, folks.

dangregory

Absolutely. Ultimately, it's not about WHAT you eat it's about how much you're eating. Portions, portions, portions! And a lot of people who grow up 1) poor; 2) with lots of siblings, competing for resources and food; 3) with very obese parents who provided huge servings of crappy food for their kids; or 4) just generally grew up in a home where buying nine bags of potato chips and dip every few days was the norm need reeducation.

HATING food doesn't work, it just makes you anorexic and crazy. I think the French have it right that way.

In my ideal world I would only eat the yummy types of hors d'euvres which are served at higher end parties; you'd have these wondrous little meat things or crab dips or whatever, top it off with some white whine, and that's your dinner right there. No need for the main course.

And what about the whole concept of "buffet?" Isn't that the worst? Since when is "all you can eat" appealing unless you've been stranded on a boat in the middle of the Atlantic for weeks, nearly starved to death, and you have some calories to make up for?

I have parents who love the buffets and are double their size because of it. Can't do anything about it as all attempts to recondition
them/reprogram them have been fruitless.

So as an only son/only child I'm having to set aside money each month not just for their care and keeping when they hit that assisted living stage of things; but they are going to fucking need huge strong black male nurse attendants to fucking cart them around when they need to use the toilet or whatever. I mean, it fucking sucks. I'm a strong guy, but if my dad gets to the point where he can't walk, it's going to take two of me to help the guy to the bathroom.

These are REAL issues fat parents don't think about, they just leave their kids to deal with this later on.

I mean, I've priced a very high end assisted living place in my area for my parents to potentially go to one day. It is NOT set up for obese people. None of those tiny nurses could do SHIT for either of my fucking fat ass parents. So I'm serious, i will have to hire a couple of very large male nurse/attendant types to help my parents with the most basic of functions, and up until now, I've never seen any WHITE men doing this, just very large, very kind, nurses' aids or male nurses who are huge black guys. I'm going to have ot have a team of these dudes on staff. SUcks. I want to pay them well so I'm budgeting at least $50,000 a year per person, which I hope is going to be enough. You have to have two people working full time and at least one fill in person, because 24 hour care doesn't happen on a 9-5 basis, there are 24 fucking hours a day when the fat people need help performing the most basic tasks as they get older and more disabled.

Put it this way. If you're 70 and you haven't been able to trim your own fucking toenials for years, it's all downhill from there. That's both my parents. It's only going ot get worse.

PS: IN case you haven't guessed it, part of my interest in this thread's subject is driven by massive anger at my parents for allowing themselves to become 300+ pound porkers when BOTH of them were still athletic and healthy circa age 30; then they made eating their life's ambition. I get to deal with the consequences of their stupidity. I mean, if I wanted them both to come and live with me I would still literally need several huge male nurses helpers to assist them with stuff, so whether they live with me or in an assisted living place, I have to have that money set aside to help them with that. Because nobody plans for that. My parents were too busy eating themselves to death.

KaniGT5

for me, I find that being a narcissistic self centered piece of shit helps me looking tip-top.


FREE-WILL.

these people CHOOSE to eat at McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Pizza Hut, etc etc etc.

show me a person who gained 250lbs in a year eating Omega-3's, monounsaturated fats, and carbs low on the glycemic index. Or even diets that consist of fiberous carbs like the majority of vegetables.

Even eating like a pig with the above mentioned foods, living a sedentary lifestyle isn't going to get you as big as a house. However with moderate exercise you WILL stay in shape, bodies adapt.

fat people don't bother me, and I don't feel bad.

HOWEVER -

next time you see me in the super market in the organic section and give me a dirty look - you bet your ass I'm gonna shoot it right back when your picking out that Dignoro's pizza with your fat grubby fingers from the frozen foods section.

MUTHAFUCKA!!!

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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! You guys are stupid.

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ScottDaMan

Yeah, I got fat from being lazy, especially after making the money IM people make. But, after a couple years of that lifestyle, I realized I hated my lazy life. Seriously, my body says take a nap and my mind says lets go outside?!?! Sucked.

Decided to weigh myself after it became a problem. Yeah, 290, 6'3" holy shit.

4-5 months later, I'm 249 and I consider this journey half complete with a side of "this is my new lifestyle." Started with Beachbody's Power 90, moved up to P90X now, and cut the crap food. I love working out and now loving living OUTSIDE once again. Got the new smart phone to keep up on my IM while taking breaks from skiing, hiking, biking, whatever. It's cold now, so if I'm not skiing, I'm doing indoor stuff like P90X.

Watch the film: Fat Head - Blog site for the comedy-documentary Fat Head it was VERY interesting. It launched my absolute hatred of the USDA, food pyramids, and food plates. Their all bullshit and the primary reason why we all grew fat in the first place.

Once I moved to Coconut Oil (heavy saturated fat, oh noes!) and away from rancid oils like Vegetable Oil, Canola Oil, etc, my diet became easy! Well, that, and of course, removing all fast food except Subway and the occasional Wendy's salad (the healthier ones, not the 1,000 calories salads they offer, WTF is that about anyways?).

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papajohn56

all these people talking about butter, butter is ketosis/low-carb friendly. butter everything

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craigmc

I fall into the same catagory as your brother almost. I eat ~4 times a day. Any and everything I want. I have done so my entire life. I'm 58 now and weigh the exact same thing I did when I graduated from school. The most I ever weighed was 135 and that's because I pushed myself to eat crap that wasn't healthy.

I have a 12 year old son that is pretty much the same as me. It has to be something in the genes. My daughter that takes after her mother and grandmother doesn't have this problem.

Bofu2U

I'm gonna butter yo bread.

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dangregory

Was thinking about hotties to notties, hot women who morphed into fatsos for no obvious reason other than eating, eating, eating.

Kirstie Alley. Always thought she was sultry and cute back in the day. She loses some of that massive weight she put on once in a while then always puts it back on.

I did know a friend of hers back in the day who said that she owed her thin physique in the 1980's to copious amounts of cocaine. That WILL keep the bitches thin, as will smoking. Many guys don't realize that if you can handle smoker's breath, dating a smoker is good insurance that the woman will remain thin. Unless they go through a health kick and try to quit smoking, then they always become porkers because their metabolism changes so much.