lukep

How about a serious thread today for a change...



Anonymous is in over it's head again.

This time they've picked on STRATFOR, a private (but powerful) strategic Defense intelligence company (thinktank) who has been cited by media such as CNN, Bloomberg, the Associated Press, Reuters, The New York Times and the BBC as an authority on strategic and tactical intelligence issues. Barron's once referred to it as "The Shadow CIA". Many of their clients are seriously heavy hitters, who are normally not made public.

Well Anon just made a large chunk of them public, and even more, made their entire user databases public, including credit card numbers!

Further, they stole $1 million from those credit cards and sent that money to the red cross, Save the Children and Care charities.

D'oh!

Interestingly enough, Stratfor's website is still down now after 6 friggin Days!

BBC News - Hacked Stratfor security think tank keeps site offline

Apparently they grabbed Statfor's entire user database on Christmas Eve. (Although stratfor says those names are only new subscribers.) I've heard minor rumblings about this since that day, but then after anonymous released the A-M section of their hack The identity theft prevention service Identity Finder has carried out its own analysis of details posted online about hacked clients...


In an eye-opening article at RT, Anonymous' purpose has been revealed... They weren't there for money; but the info in those emails:

So they went fishing, and their net is seriously heavy... But they don't seem to know what they have caught yet.

If it's small-time stuff? No biggie.

If it's the next 9/11 or other type of conspiracy? Then I'd bet those anonymous folks have probably already breathed their last breaths.

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Can they go find out how much profit Dick Cheney and his buds made from the Iraq War?

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lukep

Thanks for the bump, banbait.

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barman

On a more serious note... Good for them. More of this shit needs to be brought to light. More WikiLeaks, more hax0ring, more whatever. The corrupt motherfuckers with the real power won't have many more places to scatter when the light gets shined on them (except Wyoming )

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Gertex

Interesting enough I always thought of Stratfor as an information clearing house in the world event sector. What's going on where... Not creating or influencing events.

Also: There is a pastbin from Anonymous saying it wasn't us but someone is using our name.... Press Release: Stratfor hack NOT Anonymous - Pastebin.com

Check Pastbin for all of the stuff they/or someone released.

They just dumped 860,000 email address from ANYONE that has EVER been on their email list. Signed up with them around 2001 and was on their free list for a time (they had interesting commentary on the Iraq/Afghanistan situation) but unsubscribed about 2005. Yup my name is in the list that was released.

Thank god I was never a paying member.

WickFlick

Somehow they stopped sending me newsletters in 2010. Very odd, but the content was in general not much different than any foreign affairs magazine. Jane or Debka appear much more "knowledgeable".

Gooddeal

Where are the people said anonymous are a bunch of kids who can't hack anything in the other threads?

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Gertex

Yes on Jane - Debka is WAY out there in my opinion. Stratfor got to far out as well in my opinon. Which is why I unsubscribed (Plus - they wanted money!)

stickyicky

^ This. It's no wonder shit like NDAA and SOPA are being pushed through. It's only a matter of time.

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-joe-

I.e. it wasn't moot. What's up with all these constant blanket statements referring to Anonymous (i.e. /b/) as some huge hacker group? The news has been doing it for a while.

lukep

You mean like the Iowa election board moving their count to an undisclosed location because of threats by OWS and Anonymous?

We gotta face it guys, the problem with anonyminity is that the enemy can claim it too... And since our enemy (the MSM) has the mike, it's clear that more people are going to hear about the anonymous that the MSM wants us to know about, NOT the real anonymous.

The day Anon gets to the point where they can commandeer the signal between your computer and the monitor, THAT's the day when people are going to start hearing the truth.

....Assuming the MSM doesn't learn that trick too.

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crackp0t

The MSM kidnapped SEOMike? Fuck those assholes.

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JarredLv

LOL @ StratFor being some evil corporation worthy of targeting.

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Yes, they have my business email in that dump. Hello. Fucking. Spam. :/

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Never heard of that one, but I'll take your word for it. It's very rare that /b/ actually does anything these days though. Generally, it's the media lumping all hacktivist groups into one. Lulzsec for example are often referred to by the media as Anonymous.

amateursurgeon

Hmm...

Faceless, nebulous enemy who can't be traced? Check
Threat that the general public doesn't really understand? Check
Enemy that can never be fully defeated by its very nature? Check

Sounds like Anonymous are shaping up to be the next Global Boogeyman that the Government uses to justify whatever restrictions on your liberty they wish.

Don't be surprised if there's a massive "cyberattack" in the near future causing huge physical (power station, hospital) or financial ( big savings bank ) damage to the general public.

Just enough to cause outrage and demands (by the press) that "something be done", and then the Great Internet Lockdown can begin in earnest.

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lukep

Thank Jeebus I wasn't the one to say this!



You're OK though, at least for a while, because you're not in the US.

+Rep.

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Actually what makes me really affraid is thinking about how long it will take until some smartass group of anonymous hackers find out about the millionaires sweet life, offshore bank accounts and the possibilities to monetize their hacking skills...

I'm not a fan of these hacker groups, no matter whom they hack or not. It's simply scaring the shit out of me what a threat this group of hackers is and how powerful they are. Hoping they don't abuse it for financial benefits...

(O_o)

actually stratfor was an excellent target from #antisec

http://ibhg35kgdvnb7jvw.onion/lulzxm...or_full.tar.gz
http://depositfiles.com/files/j87arfcpa
http://www.verzend.be/odmmqjn6320d/s...ll.tar.gz.html
http://www.wupload.com/file/2629492022
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O5P03RXK
https://rapidshare.com/#!download|87...02698C9141|0|0

if anyone wants to DL the email list.

If you look through the email list, a lot of .govs + .mil and interesting emails.

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REIMktg

Wasn't there a movie like this years ago? Great Gov't crackdown on Hackers?

Just like terrorists, hackers are simply tools in the hands of misc Govt's. But also just like terrorists, it would be nice if they were not engaged in criminal behavior that justifies the crackdown.

The people want crime eliminated so they for the most part do not care about the civil liberties of "others" - of course that comes tumbling down when their own civil liberties are violated.

But no one cares when a few extra drug dealers or whatever get killed here and there - because the public is sick of the shit those drug dealers cause. Same with hackers - the public is sick of having to use anti-virus crap etc all of which they associate with Hackers - so they willingly give up rights to fix the problem.

Is there a better solution?

I know that small businesses that buy a $3,000 billboard that gets tagged. That's $3000 to a small business and its all they have - then some POS tags it - that business would be willing to vote for vigilante snipers against taggers I am certain. Its all the same - taggers through terrorists - people are tired of the shit and do not want it to interfere with their lives so they give up rights in order to allow the "authorities" to handle it.

Once again - can you offer a better solution?

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Yuckystuff

Here I am!

Still waiting on them to take down Facebook, and Dow Jones, and Chase and on and on and on...

emp

I have to say that I am really weirded out by this.

As some may know, I work for a thinktank / information portal in international security as my 9-5.
(I am the head of the IT department there.)

Stratfor is one of our partners, they provide publications and we were in talks about featuring their videos on our site as well.

Targeting think tanks like that is strange. StratFor is more of a publisher and research organization than a heavyweight in the "military-industrial complex"(tm)

Most think tanks are like that, actually. While your opinions /reseach papers/ analysis might sway someone in power to one way or the other, they are not a driving force behind any military operation.

Just... weird.

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PS: Go ahead and ask your questions. I will not reveal my identity nor will I reveal my organization on this forum. Both can be verified by some other mod if needed.

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geomark

Don't these think tanks usually have security clearances? And publish classified as well as unclassified studies?

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lukep

I think the MO of Anonymous is pretty obvious at this point... They have some skills but these skills do have their limits.

As much as they want to take down Facebook and Chase, facebook and chase have already put up a sufficient firewall to stop their attacks.

Meanwhile sony and stratfor did not. They weren't the Prime anonymous target but they were attainable lower-tier targets.

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emp

Really depends on the organisation. (We do not, for example)

Still, a study is just that. A think tank is not a puppet master lurking in the shadows. While one might be telling some government where to go and what to do, the government does not have to follow the recommendations anywhere.

edit for clarity:

The govmint of some place might come to thinktank X and say: We got situation A here, what info can you give us?
Then the people make a study or compile past studies for the gubmint and presto.

MOST think tanks are just that, researchers... some give courses for money, or sell their publications, or do consulting or organize conferences.

Most are born out of a "do good" or "preserve peace" mentality, some are out of Universities, most are very small and chronically underfunded, though.

Viewing them as "being part of the evil military-industrial shadow empire" can be done, if you tilt your head sideways and squint really hard and the light is bad...

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That makes a lot of sense that the .gov/.mil guys subscribe to Stratfor.

Stratfor provided independent analysis of world events. They published 'their' view on things. Unlike popular belief, .gov is not all knowing and only has so many 'analysts' working for them. It's quite nice to get a independent 'different' opinion then the ones an intelligence organization for instance is pushing. Fresh outside views always help. It might fill something in that was previously overlooked.

Wouldn't you want your public officials get the most current and various opinions out there?

Hale.Pane

What is your opinion on the book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"?

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Lord B

This. And I can indeed confirm that emp works for a pretty high-profile think-tank organization in EU.

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nickCR

If the info that they got is sensitive in anyway they will 'accidently' slip in the shower and claim suicide.

I agree moar exposure of those corrupt politicians is a good thing, but don't mess with the military, they don't like to be fucked with.

Thank god I don't live in the states though. Censorship is around the corner at the rate they are going. That's how they got UIEGA in, blow shit outta proportion in the media and WHAM

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emp

Conspiracy bullshit that sells because people want to believe this happens.
Go and read the wikipedia page on this piece of crap, gives you enough info.

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Hale.Pane

Could you elaborate on "crap" ? Is it the part about more powerful countries not hesitating to abuse their power ? Is it the author himself ?

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LOL .. all down.

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emp

I will again refer you to the wikipedia entry.
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just look at the "controversy and criticism" section.

Simply put: This is not how things work. Of course powerful countries use and abuse their powers, but not in that way.
The book has the reek of an Ian Fleming novel and should be treated as such.

A disclaimer is needed here, I think.




While I know a bit about international relations and such, I am not a researcher at my 9-5. I am the head of IT.




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Hale.Pane

I did read the wikipedia entry before but didnt really trust it (I have wiki edits). I wanted to hear it from you. Thank you for your time.

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Well, I was not giving my opinion because it is well summed up over on Wikipedia.

The interesting part, however is NOT the wiki entry, but the linked entries.
I could not do better than link you to the same articles / websites / interviews.

The most striking one was opposing the real world developments to the ones described in the book.
Like this one mentioned:
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sspitfire

I wonder if those CC's are good for something.. although most of them (if not all) are cancelled by now.

(O_o)

?? the tor url still works fine brah
http://ibhg35kgdvnb7jvw.onion/lulzxm...or_full.tar.gz

the others, probably because a 200+mb file being downloaded 1000s of times an hour really drains a sites BW + dozens of removal requests from users/companies/LE agencies that have emails or credit cards in the leaked info.

anyways, reup'd for the curious cats who dont know how to use tor.

stratfor_full.txt - 30.3 mb
stratfor_users.csv - 203 mb

Get stratfor_full.tar on Wupload.com
https://rapidshare.com/files/2501296...atfor_full.tar

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(O_o)

its not that they are using stratfor, its seeing how insecure/stupid people who work in Government are. its very very frightening.

for instance:



ok this guy works for DHS, his password md5 hashed, great, hopefully its secure enough it wont get cracked.

OH FUCK WHAT

d4d71aa58fdb9e8d6409d414626d63b0 decypts to dhs

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! this idiot made his password 'dhs' . how secure!

OK ok, so you're thinking, alright maybe thats just a singular occurrence you picked out. big deal.

so here we go, ok, works for the internet crimes division for the FBI. he must have security in mind right?


ok so lets see, 0b6baa8c1e120281b338b8478a4c264c decrypts to stratfor
WHAT IN the fuck !?

you be the judge. dumps and hacks like this make me lose faith in humanity and governments. stay safe and secure my friends.

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seohug

That's what happens when one gets a salary for doing zilch and internal policies are relaxed to please the big cheeses

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Nothing to do with government or being paid to do zilch.

All it is is that any organisation/company has its amount of computer illiterate / cyber security unaware employees.

Keep in mind that the "security" these people deal with normally involves things like bomb threats, weapon deals, nuclear armament policy, etc... not cyber security.

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(O_o)

there are tens of thousands of government agencies like the NSA, FBI, DOJ, DOD and users in the list that deal with internet crimes and national computer security.

look at these cute lil marines and @nsa.gov users all using the same password:



it decrypts to usmcportal how adorable and sad!

from the NSA's website
LOL ^

And people think the US government could control and manage something like SOPA safely ??

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Later this week,

CNN News: WickedFire shut down after reportedly aiding and abetting cyber terrorism by sharing secure login credentials of several top US governmental intelligence agencies.

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Gertex

Honestly, the only thing your password did, was to manage your email settings and what lists you were on. UNLESS these were paying subscribers and credit card info was available.

Now, having said all of that... there is an INCREDIBLE amount of work to be done for people using proper computer security protocols.

Believe it or not, .gov has made HUGE strides in security. Most agencies now use 2 factor authentication, requiring complex passwords, etc..

I'm with you on SOPA 100% though!

danej

Anyone else having any luck? We're trying to get some offers rocking for the new year, but our inbox rates on this list are terrible!

emp

LOL

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eVandals

Anonymous' Stratfor hack outs intelligence officials across the world &mdash; RT

The cyber consequences unit will never be the same.

lukep

Dudes, Wikileaks just dumped that stolen info all over the net... It's juicy stuff!

The Global Intelligence Files - List of Releases

For instance, here's one where they talk about how Obama Frauded his ass into the presidency in Nov 2008:

The Global Intelligence Files - RE: Insight - The Dems & Dirty Tricks ** Internal Use Only - Pls Do Not Forward **

And here's one more recently where they analyse the Anonymous v/s Zetas situation: The Global Intelligence Files - Anonymous vs. Zetas Amid Mexico's Cartel Violence

The 2011 folder has a long list of docs all worthy of their own thread here!

Get to reading... Great stuff.

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Anonymous = CIA/MI6/Mossad/etc

-joe-

Anonymous is whoever the Press want Anonymous to be.

The term "Anonymous" has been irrelevant for the past 2+ years.