The polite and respectful Holocaust Revisionist Thread:

[Yuma504]

Originally Posted by Moxie

No historian is saying that many were gassed. Those body count estimates include death by gunfire, starvation, etc.

Which sources say there weren't that many Jews on the planet at that time?

Obviously my figures and my language were exaggerated ( much in the same way I portray my cock size in my Craigslist posts), which I will correct now:

Per World Almanac figures, the world's Jewish population INCREASED by 584,549 between 1941 and 1948. This seems rather contradictory given the canned story of gassing, ovens, labor camp starvation etc.

If you'd like to debate the numbers and the facts, we can do that. I don't fault anyone's cognitive dissonance regarding the issue due to the overwhelming indoctrination that the world has been forced to undergo, that would prompt one to want to debate the numbers. However, before we go there, I'd like to point out three glaring examples of revisionist history as it pertains to the Jews being in charge of disseminating the information:

• Winston Churchill's "Second World War" THIS IS 6 FUCKING VOLUMES - Nowhere in the 4,448 pages does this book mention: Nazi Gas Chambers , 'genocide' of the Jews, neither does it mention 'six million Jewish victims of the War'.

• Dwight D. Eisenhower's "Crusade in Europe" - Again, no mention of any of the above!

• Charles de Gualle's "Memoires de Guerre: L'Appel" - THIS IS 3 FUCKING VOLUMES - 2,054 pages; Again no mention of any of the above.

Do you not find this odd? I find this just as suspicious as Josephus Flavius' exemption of Jesus in his chronicles of his day. Something of this magnitude would've been written about , and I would presume, at length by all three of these key players in that moment in history.


More on the Jewish Population -

World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews - {oh the irony!} "

World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000

National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000

March 24, 1933, Jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 Jews worldwide

World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359

World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world Jewish population = 15,753,633

World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world Jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000

World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359 <------

World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091

World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089 ("Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion")

World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000

World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638 <-----


Again, I am no Neo-Nazi nor do I idolize Hitler or the Third Reich. Hitler was a tool of the Zionist Rothschild plain and simple. He funded Hitler as did many other influential Jews of that time with the sole aim in getting the rest of the world to accept the right of the Jews to have a Homeland and ultimately fuck over the Palestinians with impunity.

I don't believe Jews are less than human, second class citizens or beneath me in any way shape or form.

What I do believe is: That a a Fascist Cabal uses "Jewishness" to cloak it's political and hegemonic agenda to make it more palatable to the world.


Closing thought: That evil Hitler sure served as a great distraction to all the murdering of Christians the Jews were responsible for in Russia.

[headiez247]

fuck off.

[Yuma504]

Originally Posted by headiez247

fuck off.

That's a rather well thought out and articulated retort. Touche!

[Crisis]

fuck off.

[Yuckystuff]

Yes the numbers were probably inflated a little as they are in any war.
Yes the Nazi's tried to systematically eliminate the Jews from Europe.

Can we go home now?

[schockergd]

Is the number being passed around accurate? Maybe, maybe not, who knows.

Regardless of how many were killed, Hitler and Nazi-ism are absolute evils. Anyone who thinks that the monsters that perpetrated those kinds of acts are good are absolutely insane. Hitler killed significant amounts of Jews, Polish, Soviets, Romanians, Gypsys, blacks, and all sorts of ethnic groups. Most of all he killed millions of his own people by sending them to be wholesale slaughtered because of his ego.

[Yuma504]

Originally Posted by Yuckystuff

Yes the numbers were probably inflated a little as they are in any war.
Yes the Nazi's tried to systematically eliminate the Jews from Europe.

Can we go home now?

Originally Posted by Reversal Magnet

Give it a fucking rest

I don't expect anyone else to be interested, nor be able to articulate a well thought out response other than Moxie who did so earlier. With respect to the other thread and not serving to crash it any further, I started this one.

Sadly, The subject of Jewishness + Holocaust + challenging the "official story" = Anti-Semite Fuck Off.

[pickledegg]

OP this is a gay webmaster forum not an anti semitic forum. Here we don't care if you're Jewish, Sikh, Christian or Muslim, we will still give you the reach around.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by Yuma504

I don't expect anyone else to be interested, nor be able to articulate a well thought out response other than Moxie who did so earlier. With respect to the other thread and not serving to crash it any further, I started this one.

Sadly, The subject of Jewishness + Holocaust + challenging the "official story" = Anti-Semite Fuck Off.

Nope, you'll find the subject of rewriting history to your own twisted ideals. = fuck off.

Maybe you don't understand the quote in your signature, because I know bruce lee would of kicked your retarded ass.

[Yuma504]

Originally Posted by Crisis

Nope, you'll find the subject of rewriting history to your own twisted ideals. = fuck off.

Maybe you don't understand the quote in your signature, because I know bruce lee would of kicked your retarded ass.

How old are you? 14? Here's something on your level of comprehension: BLOW ME BITCH!

[headiez247]

Originally Posted by Yuma504

I don't expect anyone else to be interested, nor be able to articulate a well thought out response

then why are you posting you southern hick buck toothed fuck.

[schockergd]

I'm curious why people get so wrapped up in denying the holocaust when there are other events like Nanking that get glossed over by the world.

[Yuma504]

Originally Posted by headiez247

then why are you posting you southern hick buck toothed fuck.

As stated previously:

With respect to the other thread and not serving to crash it any further, I started this one.

[ly2 from WF]

Did I miss something?

[.Hack]

inb4thefisherman

[thelorax]

[Yuma504]

Originally Posted by ly2 from WF

Did I miss something?

No. I decided to not derail "Dresden's" whoopty-dee-doo I sold a website for $19K - anymore by discussing this topic in it.

Moxie posed a valid question and I am replying here.

[zdmyn]

Oh look, it's the World Almanac argument again...

Criticism of Holocaust denial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One Holocaust denial argument is the comparison of the population of Jews before and after the Holocaust. They state that the 1940 World Almanac gives the world Jewish population as 15,319,359, while the 1948 World Almanac gives the world Jewish population as 15,713,638. They therefore claim that either the figures are wrong, or the Holocaust, meaning the deaths of millions of Jews, cannot have happened to any extent similar to the claimed 6 million. Ken McVay writes:

Only in 1949 are postwar estimates employed, the figures given are for estimates made in 1948. A year or two lag seems to be common for various other population estimates given by the World Almanac. The difference between the 1938 and 1948 figures is thus 4,481,491. In 1949, however, the World Almanac gives a revised 1939 population of 16,643,120 giving a difference of between 1938 and 1947 of 5,376,520. Where the extra population between 1938 and 1939 came from is not cited, though one might speculate that it was based upon the Nazi estimates made in 1942 for the Wannsee Conference. Despite the apparent exactness of the numbers listed, the World Almanac warns that all numbers listed are estimates.[53]

Other sources confirm similar numbers—and earlier than the 1949 World Almanac—for the Jewish population before and after the war. The 1932 American Jewish Yearbook estimate the total number of Jews in the world at 15,192,218, of whom 9,418,248 resided in Europe. However, the 1947 yearbook states: "Estimates of the world Jewish population have been assembled by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (except for the United States and Canada) and are probably the most authentic available at the present time. The figures reveal that the total Jewish population of the world has decreased by one-third from about 16,600,000 in 1939 to about 11,000,000 in 1946 as the result of the annihilation by the Nazis of more than five and a half million European Jews. In Europe only an estimated 3,642,000 remain of the total Jewish pre-war population of approximately 9,740,000." These numbers are also consistent with the findings of the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, Appendix III, in 1946.

[Yuckystuff]

Originally Posted by Yuma504

I don't expect anyone else to be interested, nor be able to articulate a well thought out response other than Moxie who did so earlier. With respect to the other thread and not serving to crash it any further, I started this one.

Sadly, The subject of Jewishness + Holocaust + challenging the "official story" = Anti-Semite Fuck Off.

I'm not calling you an Anti-Semite for questioning the numbers. All I'm saying is even if the numbers were half that, does that make what Hitler and the Nazi's did any less fucked up?

[Yuma504]

Originally Posted by Yuckystuff

I'm not calling you an Anti-Semite for questioning the numbers. All I'm saying is even if the numbers were half that, does that make what Hitler and the Nazi's did any less fucked up?

[Sigh].... No it doesn't. Hitler bad, me must GTFO for being Anti-Semite.

/Thread

[Dresden14]

...........Point proven. I don't bringup or start these threads, lol - but how am I to reply with my thoughts only to stir the pot? I'll just be quiet and nod.

[Ar Scion]

Dang. So is Yuma going to address the discrepancies pointed out in his data by zdmyn or not?

[Linklover]

Fuck off

[seous]

fuck off.

[Moxie]

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[pIZZaBOY]

This is a very solid thread! I particularly like the closing statements.

I always get a good laugh out of this kind of stuff and how seriously jews take their fake holocaust. The only research they'll do on it is reading some biased opinions from other jews who got their facts from other biased jews who were probably zionists.

No, just the history channel brainwashing they've watched over, and over, and over on their large television screens, ever since they were young with their just as to blame parents, all feeding into the guilt and the sadness that is those poor resilient jews!



They never think about the immense waste of resources killing whatever bogus number of jews would have cost germany during war-time on multiple fronts.

They never think about ulterior motives of zionist world domination, no! "The government lies to me everyday now... but not then! My mothers mother was in a work camp!!! SHE HAS A TATTOO!!! She's so lucky to not have been gassed!"

Holocaust denial is an especially pernicious form of antisemitism. Claims that the Holocaust did not happen imply that the idea of the Holocaust is a myth created by Jews for their own ends. Holocaust denial is therefore not the expression in good faith of a legitimate interpretation of history; it is designed to engender hostility against Jews, and is insulting and offensive to Jews, other victims of the Holocaust and all who value truth and the lessons we can learn from history.

HAHAHA FUCK, Can you believe these douchebags taking themselves so seriously?

What a fucking joke!!!

[pIZZaBOY]

Zionist Propaganda | The Works and Research of ZionCrimeFactory

[RoughOutline]

I don't know why people would adopt beliefs and theories that are purely based on hate.

[turbolapp]

Estimates of the world Jewish population have been assembled by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (except for the United States and Canada) and are probably the most authentic available at the present time. The figures reveal that the total Jewish population of the world has decreased by one-third from about 16,600,000 in 1939 to about 11,000,000 in 1946 as the result of the annihilation by the Nazis of more than five and a half million European Jews. In Europe only an estimated 3,642,000 remain of the total Jewish pre-war population of approximately 9,740,000." Avalon Project - Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry - Appendix III

[Ar Scion]

Originally Posted by turbolapp

Estimates of the world Jewish population have been assembled by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (except for the United States and Canada) and are probably the most authentic available at the present time. The figures reveal that the total Jewish population of the world has decreased by one-third from about 16,600,000 in 1939 to about 11,000,000 in 1946 as the result of the annihilation by the Nazis of more than five and a half million European Jews. In Europe only an estimated 3,642,000 remain of the total Jewish pre-war population of approximately 9,740,000." Avalon Project - Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry - Appendix III

Don't buy that shit. Jews made up Yale.

[Dwight Schrute]

[King.]

Lets assume that 6 million didn't die, but rather it was closer to 1 million. Even though this most likely isn't true, let's assume just for a moment that it is. Does that actually make the genocide any less atrocious? The answer is no, so stop arguing over the numbers as if it makes the holocaust less fucking horrific than it actually was.

[pIZZaBOY]

Originally Posted by King.

Lets assume that 6 million didn't die

Don't assume, know. (stop mixing your emotions into things when facts are perfectly reasonable to grasp)

Originally Posted by King.

but rather it was closer to 1 million. Even though this most likely isn't true, let's assume just for a moment that it is. Does that actually make the genocide any less atrocious? The answer is no, so stop arguing over the numbers as if it makes the holocaust less fucking horrific than it actually was.

It's not about numbers, it's about the fact that you have been brainwashed to sympathize with zionism and thus you're allowing jews to control the world because of your ignorance over a fictitious event.

[kingofsp]

Originally Posted by Ar Scion

Dang. So is Yuma going to address the discrepancies pointed out in his data by zdmyn or not?

Why would he do that?

In general, people that argue on the internet do it to feel good about themselves as they believe that they are demonstrating superior knowledge to an inferior audience. Researching evidence on the contrary to their argument would defeat the purpose of posting in the first place.

When confronted with facts that dissolve whatever point they were trying to make, they can then:

A) Ignore them.

B) Dig a deeper hole by expanding their argument to incorporate a radical explanation of the contradicting information.

C) Pretend they were just trolling.

D) Feel bad, man.

[Dark Cognitive]

I didn't create that image but i thought it'd reflect on what a rediculous thread this is. I'm sorry, i know history is written by the victors (sorry Nazi's ---- YOU LOST LOL!!!)..... but something like the holocaust just has too much evidence going for it to be dismissed. I mean FFS, i know people who's grandparents lost their whole family to this shit.

[TigerUK]

i want to see the 6 million bodies. surely you can't hide 6 million bodies a grave the size of a football pitch, surely there must be overwhelming evidence to suggest the 6 million deaths from just looking at the mass graves?

p.s. nazis hated the gypsies and the poles just as much, so add a couple more million for the poles and gypsies,

[1yerrot]

Originally Posted by Dresden14

...........Point proven. I don't bringup or start these threads, lol - but how am I to reply with my thoughts only to stir the pot? I'll just be quiet and nod.

Good move ha ha ha hitler fag....

[Yuckystuff]

Originally Posted by pIZZaBOY

It's not about numbers, it's about the fact that you have been brainwashed to sympathize with zionism and thus you're allowing jews to control the world because of your ignorance over a fictitious event.

I despise Zionism.

However, I also know that the Nazi's systematically murdered a shitload of Jews (1 million, 6 million, whatever). They also murdered a fuckton of Gypsies, and Slavs.

Is anybody actually saying that the Nazi's didn't systematically kill Jews in Europe? Is anybody saying there wasn't a Genocide (or at least an attempted Genocide, depending on your definition)?

What exactly is the point?

[Gertex]

Being originally from Germany I know one thing for a fact, Germans are AWESOME at record keeping.

And oh btw, a LARGE part of those records and names can be found scanned in for all to see here: Captured German Records in WWII: story, pictures and information - Fold3.com

Is it 6million? Is it a million? Does it 'really' matter to you if it's 'only' a million, which would be roughly the population of the city of Dallas?

All I know is that an awefull lot of people died.

I know that I've met folks that survived due to being rescued by Allied troops. Have heard their stories first hand, seen the tattoos and ironically by BOTH sides. Guards and inmates. Yes, Guards! Proudly showing off their SS tat's because I must like them... I'm German after all.

Well, my family lost everything because of that war. Family members that had to be in the military like my Grandfather, who I never met because he went Missing in Action during the last days of the war on the Russian front. Aunt's and Uncles, cousins, whatever.

I've listened to family members stories, the fear, the war, the rapes (for their part mostly from the Russian side). How they lost everything. Belongings, property, houses, land, businesses, body parts and the life of loved ones.

Horrible, horrible first hand stories...

When does the number start mattering? When Germans gassed 50,000 Jews? 100,000? a million? Would it make it 'better' to you?

Would love to hear a 'real' answer to that question?



Because I am German everyone assumes that I must be part of the master race (okay, I'm tall and kind of look the part).

[pIZZaBOY]

Originally Posted by Yuckystuff

I despise Zionism.

However, I also know that the Nazi's systematically murdered a shitload of Jews (1 million, 6 million, whatever). They also murdered a fuckton of Gypsies, and Slavs.

Is anybody actually saying that the Nazi's didn't systematically kill Jews in Europe? Is anybody saying there wasn't a Genocide (or at least an attempted Genocide, depending on your definition)?

What exactly is the point?

Go read the websites I have provided, 3 times in this thread and dont ask me to waste my energy holding your hand, providing you with information freely available to you if you want to learn.

[mikeshinobi]

As a person who knows very little about the holocaust, and much less whether or not it actually occurred, I have always found it vexing that when someone even hints at the idea that the holocaust is a hoax, they're always met with anger much like the OP of this post. As if questioning it is so ridiculous that it shouldn't even be considered.

Why? Why is this? Why are some people so sure that it occurred; so sure to the point that they get angry when anyone questions it?

Serious question.

[pIZZaBOY]

Originally Posted by mikeshinobi

As a person who knows very little about the holocaust, and much less whether or not it actually occurred, I have always found it vexing that when someone even hints at the idea that the holocaust is a hoax, they're always met with anger much like the OP of this post. As if questioning it is so ridiculous that it shouldn't even be considered.

Why? Why is this? Why are some people so sure that it occurred; so sure to the point that they get angry when anyone questions it?

Serious question.

Because they are brainwashed by Zionism. If you're interested, here's some videos that will answer your question with no nonsense, only facts:

My Video Productions | The Works and Research of ZionCrimeFactory

[craigmc]

Why even discuss that matter? It's history that happened before you where born. Wither it was Jews, Poles, or Gypsies, the Nazis systematically eliminated others in the name of ethnic cleansing.

Granted the Jewish people are rightfully all up in arms over what happened. Little has been heard from the other groups that met the same fate. Why is that? IDK

Regardless of the numbers this was a very big black spot on our history as a human race. Unfortunately history repeats itself. In the past 20 years ethnic cleansing has gone on in many countries worldwide. And as usual the USA has stepped in to correct the situation. only to be be labeled as the evil nation by the ones perpetrating the genocide for political gains.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it...

[Dresden14]

Originally Posted by Yuckystuff

I despise Zionism.

However, I also know that the Nazi's systematically murdered a shitload of Jews (1 million, 6 million, whatever). They also murdered a fuckton of Gypsies, and Slavs.

Is anybody actually saying that the Nazi's didn't systematically kill Jews in Europe? Is anybody saying there wasn't a Genocide (or at least an attempted Genocide, depending on your definition)?

What exactly is the point?

I'm taking ticket # 6,000,001... SHIT!!!! I couldnt stay out of this thread. Fuck.

[pIZZaBOY]

Originally Posted by craigmc

Little has been heard from the other groups that met the same fate. Why is that?

Because the bigger issue here is Zionism. There are ties which directly link Jewish Mafia banksters to causing the wars themselves.

Did you not read the OP's final most important words?

[Gertex]

Originally Posted by mikeshinobi

As a person who knows very little about the holocaust, and much less whether or not it actually occurred, I have always found it vexing that when someone even hints at the idea that the holocaust is a hoax, they're always met with anger much like the OP of this post. As if questioning it is so ridiculous that it shouldn't even be considered.

Why? Why is this? Why are some people so sure that it occurred; so sure to the point that they get angry when anyone questions it?

Serious question.

Why? Cause i got first hand accounts from my parents, grew up with a step-grandmother and heard her stories. Stories that you just wouldn't make up. Because I got physical paperwork with the nazi seal at my house. Because I've been to places like Bergen Belsen (which was about 10 miles from where I lived for a short time).

Anger? Because since about the 60's there are people that keep saying it didn't happen.

Did you know that U.S. troops made the population of the nearby cities walk THROUGH and clean up those sites like Dachau, Bergen Belsen, etc. just so nobody could say... It didn't happen...

[Dark Cognitive]

Originally Posted by pIZZaBOY

Because they are brainwashed by Zionism. If you're interested, here's some videos that will answer your question with no nonsense, only facts:

My Video Productions | The Works and Research of ZionCrimeFactory

And when did the ZionCrimeFactory website become a true historical record of what actually happened?...

You're posting a website as if its the definite proof of what went down, when its just as susceptible to propaganda (if not more so due to a massive bias) as other sources are.

About 2 seconds on that website and you can clearly see where the motive lies, so why the fuck as a neutral party would i be prepared to take what it says as any sort of definitive explanation?.

The only shit i take with a grain of salt is the documentation from sources that dont, and never did, have a hand in the war and therfore have no motive to lie about it, unfortunately those are few and far between.

The moment you start spewing shit about people being brainwashed by Zionism is the moment i switch off because it's quite clear what fucking camp you are in <---- no pun intended.

[pIZZaBOY]

..................

Originally Posted by Gertex

Because I got physical paperwork with the nazi seal at my house.

Paperwork of what? Be specific you imbecile.

Originally Posted by Gertex

It didn't happen...

I know.

[pIZZaBOY]

Originally Posted by Dark Cognitive

And when did the ZionCrimeFactory website become a true historical record of what actually happened?...

You're posting a website as if its the definite proof of what went down, when its just as susceptible to propaganda (if not more so due to a massive bias) as other sources are.

About 2 seconds on that website and you can clearly see where the motive lies, so why the fuck as a neutral party would i be prepared to take what it says as any sort of definitive explanation?.

The only shit i take with a grain of salt is the documentation from sources that dont, and never did, have a hand in the war and therfore have no motive to lie about it, unfortunately those are few and far between.

The moment you start spewing shit about people being brainwashed by Zionism is the moment i switch off because it's quite clear what fucking camp you are in <---- no pun intended.

Read the fucking website... The creator is 21 years old... Since he was 17 he has been studying and working on this stuff. Deep respect for him.

[Yuckystuff]

Originally Posted by pIZZaBOY

Go read the websites I have provided, 3 times in this thread and dont ask me to waste my energy holding your hand, providing you with information freely available to you if you want to learn.

You still haven't answered the questions I asked. Do you or do you not believe there was a system in place to murder Jews and others during WW2?

If you want to discuss actual numbers, motives for exaggeration etc, we can. But before that, I'm curious to know what you think happened.

Otherwise, it's like arguing with someone about Global Warming. You can't say you don't believe in Global Warming because we can see the average temperatures rising. Once we acknowledge that, we can then argue about what's causing that rise in temperatures and how much is man-made etc. (for example)

If your position is that there was no system at all in place to systematically kill Jews (and to a lesser extent Gypsies and Slavs) - well then there isn't a whole lot to talk about.