sumohax0r

Hate this kid of you want, but he is a true hustler.

Played 280 shows last year averaging 40k a night, his success is purely based on his Youtube videos (240,697,322 views) and twitter account (1.6M followers) // listed in Forbes top 30 under 30 // Signed to a indie hometown label.

Got my respect.

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metalshark

How many more people are going to get rich and famous off these "I don't care what you think of me" songs?

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zimok

This song makes me hungry,

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webnet

Yep, haters gonna hate but it's full of win. Not usually my cuppa tea but I can see the appeal. Good luck to him.

dustin_f22

Sample is from Sufjan Stevens - Vesuvius

Original is better IMO

clyde

This shit motivates me,

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headiez247

countless pioneers of music from hundreds of years ago are rolling in their graves.

I never got why hip hop/rap became so popular. Nothing like a teenage kid in shitty clothing talking about how he doesn't give a fuck about anything and wants to bang girls and smoke pot all day. what a cool guy.

tonymontana

Respect to him for makin it where he is. But in the end, he isn't a good rapper. He's okay at best. And it's funny how he gets more media attention than artists who are 1000000 times better than him.

pIZZaBOY

Yeah Jews turning all the white youth into wiggers is really funny.

Hitch

These guys always get much more attention than any other good rapper.

johnmatrix

What a fucking pile of shit. listen to some real music assholes

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g1c9

I'm not big on his music BUT...

NOTHING BUT RESPECT.

Why it _became_ so popular? Stop listening to current shit and go back 2 decades.

And, not to overanalyze, but at the end of the video they pull the dream cliche and he seems to imply that he doesn't actually believe that marijuana use is auspicious.

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monies

ay mayne y u hatin bro iz cuz u mad? shiiit i dun give a fk haterz gon hate we ballin gettin mad respect smoke weed fuck tha popo been had haterz been had bad grammar been had temporary youtube sensation been had bad music

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tonymontana

Not sure what kind of rap music you've listened to..haha

Simplepro

I have nothing but respect for the classics, but its beyond me how you rock n roll cats can listen to the same fuckin song for like 30 years and not get bored. I know this was great music and I Love the fact that you can be nostalgic and enjoy some old favorites ... but why hate on getting on with the times and enjoying all the new music out these days ( not saying that mac miller is ) but even if he is your cup of tea there is nothing wrong with it.

tonymontana

Lol this.

Also, why is it always the people who like rock who criticize rap and other genres?

Why the fuck would you think that someone who listens to Mac Miller would want to listen to VAN HALEN?

amateursurgeon

If I was one of the Illuminati, I'd use this song's success as evidence that democracy is a bad idea.

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guysmy

At parties most people are sucking back beers like Coors Light, Bud Light Lime or Corona. Any beer connoisseur will tell you that these beers are swill and that there are thousands of better options.

To be popular the product itself merely needs to be easy to drink, generic and relevant to the times. The rest is marketing and distribution.

People don’t want the best because they don’t have the palate for it. Finding the best beers for you takes experimentation, thought, and confidence in your own preferences.

Music is the same.

The average person doesn’t have the palate for exceptional music. A friend once told me that a popular song needs to have a melody that is no more complicated than a nursery rhyme. He hit the nail on the head.

As music becomes more and more fragmented, the stuff that manages to appeal to the masses seems to be getting more retarded by the minute.

Every now and then truly great music DOES reach a huge audience. Somebody popped on Alicia Keys - Un-thinkable and I was blown away by the quality of the songwriting. The vocal performance is sincere and technically impressive. That is rare.

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xpathfucker

Amazing.

minsco

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sumohax0r

With all our advances in technology and easy access to vast amounts of knowledge, we still somehow.. cannot get anyone over the age of 35 to accept that other generations have there own taste in music, and perhaps theirs wasn't the "best of all time".

I love Van Halen, the doors, Béla Fleck, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, 38 Special, Def Leppard, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Stevie Ray Vaughan etc.

But I also love Skrillex, Manchester Orchestra, Nero, Lil wayne, Childish Gambino, Mumford and Sons, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Ratatat, Jay-Z and 100+ others.

Because I'm not a cynical asshole and can appreciate more then one type of music.

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Hale.Pane

FTFY.

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guysmy

When I get a diverse group of people together there is usually someone complaining about the music I put on.

When we like something we want to share it with others. It’s annoying when people don’t “get it” so we write them off as cynical, narrow minded or as having shitty taste (guilty myself). Really we are frustrated that preferences aren’t aligning.

I have to agree that people who listen to the music of their youth EXCLUSIVELY are annoying. The mullet-sporting ex. captain of the high school football team that still drives his beat-up IROC Z28 somes to mind. Blast out of the time warp, duder.

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Kstanki2

I agree, anyone who listens to their generation's music exclusively is an annoying idiot. However, that includes the current generation as well, especially them.

I wasn't alive for any of the classic bands you mentioned but I'll be the first to tell you The Doors had exponentially more talent than anything you hear when you turn on the radio today, so nostalgia isn't the only factor. I think there's been a genuine decline in the quality of mainstream music, today's most talented artists are on the sidelines.

Yeah popular music has always been diluted and shallow but lately it's just so blatant. There's always been songs about smoking weed and making money but entire albums dedicated to it? Entire genres? The average person's taste in music is very unrefined so the music industry is allowed to get away with being lazy. The fact that the kid in OP's vid became wildly successful is just sad, I want to respect him but I just can't, boasting =/= lyrics.

BTW I'm not some hipster who only listens to indie and classic bands, I've enjoyed my fair share of rap, techno, hell even dubstep has it's moments, I just can't bring myself to respect an artist with no substance, talent, passion, or skill in their 'craft'. I will totally agree that older folks are very close-minded when it comes to music and won't give anything new a chance, but this new generation is just as close-minded and decades from now they'll still be listening to lil' X mumble about their earnings.

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tonymontana

Lmao.

johnmatrix

Well I'm only 25, so it's still relatively new to me. Nevertheless, music with complex melodies and quality songwriting never gets boring. It's the formulaic bullshit you hear today that gets old really quickly.

I'm not hating on all new music, I'm hating on the TRIPE at the top of this thread.

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Kerkat

IMO most people get to around 30 and never listen to any new music, so you've got old dudes into rock n roll / swing etc, Elvis and Beatles fans in their 60s/70s, punks in their 50s, Queen / Dire Straits etc in their 40s.

In 20 years time you'll have people in their 40s who won't listen to anything but Rihanna.

Clasperpavis

Hmm. I never Understood how these people do the rap so easily.

amateursurgeon

Depends on how important music is to them - most people aren't really, really into it, they just listen to it to pass the time. These are the people who buy whatever's popular. (No problem with that, they're just not that into it).

If you're really into music, you'll listen to anything that's interesting no matter how old you get. It might not be entirely to your taste, but you can always appreciate it.

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funlol

Agreed.

This song sucks balls OP. How anyone can listen to this shit more than one time is beyond me.

(But good for Mac Miller.. if it sells, it sells. I would produce dog shit on camera too if it made me millions)

kingfish

Nah I'm under 35 and I still think their music was the best of all time.

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ShadowCaster

This song makes me want to kick babies.

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kingscotty38

HAHA That song is a guilty pleasure for me. Waka Flocka might have the IQ of Shaqs FT%, but dude can rock some hype shit.


People connect with the music in which they had the best experiences or memories. They tend to like music they heard when they were younger because it reminds them of happier days. People generally get unhappier as they age so they fucking hate that reminds them of the current times when life is shit. Just like when people say that the most memorable tunes of one's life comes when the person is copping the most pussy and/or dick (gay webmaster forum) in their lives.

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amanda11

Respect him as a hustler but god damn, artisically he's shit: crappy lyrics, bad flow, generic music video.

Shame on you for getting "pumped up" over a shitty song masquerade as rap, targeted for white teenage suburban kids. (If you're a WTSK, my apology)

jsherloc

Dude actually has a decent flow, and is most definitively "talented", regardless of whether you like his music personally. This song is pop music for airplay (I still dig it and put it on blast weekly), but the kid is talented lyrically...most people cannot "flow" the way he does. He's not amazingly gifted with words like someone like Yelawolf or Eminem, but he honestly probably has more fans than Yelawolf...for that reason alone.

People hate on Yelawolf and tell me they just can't get into him as his delivery style is so unique. IMO he is a "rapper's rapper". If you are into writing hip hop music/freestyle poetry/lyricism etc...Yelawolf is fucking CRAZY on some of his tracks. Dude does some crazy shit with words, I love it...but I totally understand why some of my friends can't get into him (and these are friends that like rap music in general). Hell, i can only take so much of Yelawolf, but you gotta respect people that have put time into perfecting their craft.

People hate on lil wayne all day, but I will never do that as a fan of rap music because the dude is MAD talented lyrically. He makes A LOT of absolute shit music, but every now and then he'll drop something amazing. I'm sure he's busy writing for all his label too, nicki minaj and all them sure as hell aren't writing those lyrics lol.

tldr: Respect Mac Miller as hustler AND a lyricist

Vhaeos

I've always found Mac Millar to be kinda corny. Seems like he's riding Khalifa's coattail. Same label, lots of the same production, only lamer. I feel like this is a decent example of his corniness.


Production on this song is good.. I just really don't appreciate him as a lyricist.

Yaxxx

lol @ lil wayne writing his own lyrics.

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tonymontana

I agree with everything in your post bro except for this part:

pinchyfingers

I'm glad he's successful, but he is not a good rapper. I love hip hop, but I couldn't even listen to that whole video, I had to turn it off.

tonymontana

Same lol tried to give the dude a second chance but I closed it after 5 seconds

jsherloc

I'm sorry bro, please go listen to some Carters/Carter Drought mixtapes etc, then listen to his REALLY old stuff, dude progressed into one of the greatest lyricists of all time...this is really not debatable within the industry. You can like other music and still respect the dude...I don't understand people sometimes. I don't listen to anything recent by him at all, but he will be remembered along with Jay-Z as one of the greats, no question. Some of his older mixtapes are still better than the full albums most artists put out there.

I agree, Mac is kind of a cornball, which is why I mentioned WHY he is so successful right now, add to that the pic of his average fans etc. I don't know how you can listen top some of freestyles/less known/even some of the popular shit like Frick Park Market and NOT respect his flow. Kids uses some cornball lyrics, but his transitioning/flow is not something most people can pull off, you gotta respect it. Especially if you rap/freestyle/poetry yourself in competitions etc. You can just pick up on that unique talent that most youtube wannabe rappers nowadays try to force out and end up sounding like they're reading a ghetto nursery rhyme.

As I said though, Yelawolf makes Mac Miller look like a shrimp in the lyrics department. Yelllerrrrrrr

jsherloc

pinchy and tony, what kind of rap artists do you listen too, just curious?

right now i just went thru that rich forever mixtape, couple of bangers but kinda meh. ross is another dude people hate on, but he single handedly proved that NOTHING else matters if you make the best music (regarding the whole 50 beef where ppl said he would get bodied etc). dude is THE ARTIST right now, features on everyone's tracks, he came outta that 50 cent beef a winner IMO. I don't see Ross going away anytime soon...

also Khalifa is a boss, mad talented but sometimes hit or miss for me i dunno I get sick of the lazzzzzy flow sometimes I think. i like his California jam recently, had that on repeat

tonymontana

Yeah I agree. Lil Wayne was good when he first came out, but then he went downhill.

Falian

I've been a huge fan of Mac for a while.

280 shows last year? Where'd you hear that, that seams really intense. If you're numbers are correct, then he pulled in over 11 mill last year. Very impressive.

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Moxie

Wha? Now this is meaningless, but google lil wayne "worst lyricist" and there are 1,000s of people saying or debating about if he is the worst lyricist of all time. In my opinion, probably 90% of rappers that were on labels up until 1996 or so are better than Wayne.


As for Mac Miller, that first video is aimed more at the mass market, while something like below is more like what "hip hop heads" would be into :

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rileypool

You're a fucking idiot if you think that kid made 11 million last year. There's no way he played that many shows or made that kinda cash per show.

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leadsupplier

agree

also, remember Asher Roth? He just had to lease a Ford Escape from my friend stealership

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