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Old 01-22-2012, 11:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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The day after he was fired I said to my wife, "watch he'll be dead in 2 months". The guy was stripped of the one thing he cared about most and while he did have the health problems, I just think he had nothing left to fight for. Unfortunately it's sad that his legacy will now be marred by this scandal. If he had handled things differently, we may have seen JoePa coaching until he was 90+.
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The day after he was fired I said to my wife, "watch he'll be dead in 2 months". The guy was stripped of the one thing he cared about most and while he did have the health problems, I just think he had nothing left to fight for. Unfortunately it's sad that his legacy will now be marred by this scandal. If he had handled things differently, we may have seen JoePa coaching until he was 90+.
That is INSANE bro, my sister-in-law said THE SAME THING. Wow.
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The day after he was fired I said to my wife, "watch he'll be dead in 2 months".
I said 6 months, but yeah same concept. You see it a lot with couples that have been married for 50+ years too. One dies and the other is gone within weeks. He was at Penn State for over 50 years, that shit was his life.

If he would have retired 5 years ago, he would have died 5 years ago.
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I thought the same thing and the media not only killed an innocent man but also the legacy of one of the greatest sports figures in history. And why? Because he turned in a pedophile and the school decided it would be better to cover it up
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I thought the same thing and the media not only killed an innocent man but also the legacy of one of the greatest sports figures in history. And why? Because he turned in a pedophile and the school decided it would be better to cover it up
So you don't think he knew about the Pedo his perv buddy was doing years ago huh???

I could be wrong, but what stopped him from taking this to the LEGAL authorities?
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So you don't think he knew about the Pedo his perv buddy was doing years ago huh???

I could be wrong, but what stopped him from taking this to the LEGAL authorities?
Im not saying he couldn't have done more. He should have done more, but the fact is he did turn the guy in. He never 1 time touched that kid. Yet his legacy is that he was the pedo as evidenced by the post above this one
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Im not saying he couldn't have done more. He should have done more, but the fact is he did turn the guy in.
Exactly, like dial 911 but he over-looked it, So how does that align with being an "innocent man"?

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Yet his legacy is that he was the pedo as evidenced by the post above this one
No. The above post pretty much shows that he's seen as "harboring" or protecting his Pedo pal. Which is pretty accurate. The police are 3 numbers away, 9 1 1
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If he opened his mouth and reported his pedo, rapist, piece of shit buddy to the cops, he could have saved a bunch of kids a lifetime of pain. He was a great coach, no denying that, but he will be remembered and judged on his decisions as a human being not as a coach. Anyone who chooses to turn a blind eye to the pain and suffering of children deserves exactly what's coming to them.
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Paterno told his immediate supervisor, Tim Curley, of the incident which is what he was legally supposed to do. This is probably what most people in his situation would do with the limited amount of info he had to go on.

It was Curley who should've gone to the police since it was his responsibility.

You're doing the same thing as the other morons in this country. Blaming Paterno simply because he's the face of Penn State.
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Paterno told his immediate supervisor, Tim Curley, of the incident which is what he was legally supposed to do. This is probably what most people in his situation would do with the limited amount of info he had to go on.

It was Curley who should've gone to the police since it was his responsibility.

You're doing the same thing as the other morons in this country. Blaming Paterno simply because he's the face of Penn State.
no, I'm blaming him for harboring a pedo for 10+ years like he exactly did and like I exactly said. He knowingly employed an assistant coach who repeatedly assaulted minors sexually. Fuck that guy
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no, I'm blaming him for harboring a pedo for 10+ years like he exactly did and like I exactly said. He knowingly employed an assistant coach who repeatedly assaulted minors sexually. Fuck that guy
Oh I didn't see that in the grand jury report? Also, he didn't employ him, Sandusky was operating a charity. Get your facts straight.
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Paterno told his immediate supervisor, Tim Curley, of the incident which is what he was legally supposed to do. This is probably what most people in his situation would do with the limited amount of info he had to go on.

It was Curley who should've gone to the police since it was his responsibility.

You're doing the same thing as the other morons in this country. Blaming Paterno simply because he's the face of Penn State.
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Oh I didn't see that in the grand jury report? Also, he didn't employ him, Sandusky was operating a charity. Get your facts straight.
TIL as long as you tell one person about anal rape of minors, you've done enough.

Motherfucking Sandusky was raping kids on penn state's god damn campus, in their football facilities, which Joe Paterno was ultimately in charge of.

So again, I will affirmatively state: Fuck Joe Paterno
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I'm with dchuk with this one, fuck Joe Paterno
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Oh I didn't see that in the grand jury report? Also, he didn't employ him, Sandusky was operating a charity. Get your facts straight.
he was forced out of coaching the FIRST time the allegation came up. . . get your facts straight. JoePa is saying he didn't know that charges were brought against his coach that just retired out of no where( he was accused of this more than once), then he says that McQueer didn't tell him what happened(the second time allegations were brought up), yet reported it, yet didn't know what he was reporting. fucker can burn in hell
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While Paterno definitely does deserve some blame for this, I'm not convinced that this level of vitriol towards him is reasonable.

With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to say that he could have and should have done more but that's a difficult situation. I mean, molesting a child is serious stuff and innocent people have had their reputations and lives ruined over *accusations*.

Even if we assume that the assistant didn't tell him a sanitized version of the events, rushing straight to the police station with secondhand information is just not on in my opinion. The assistant on the other hand is a grown man who should have gone to the police because he's the one who had eyewitness testimony.

Paterno went to his supervisor which was the right thing to do at the time. I agree that after finding out that the department wasn't investigating, he should have followed it up and dug into it more. That being said, phrases like "cover up" are a bit unfair.

It honestly reads more to me like a man who misjudged the severity of the situation and made a mistake. Serves as a reminder of how easily a single decision can change the course of someone's life.

To me, Sandusky's the one who ought to be getting vilified here.
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TIL as long as you tell one person about anal rape of minors, you've done enough.

Motherfucking Sandusky was raping kids on penn state's god damn campus, in their football facilities, which Joe Paterno was ultimately in charge of.

So again, I will affirmatively state: Fuck Joe Paterno
Brilliant post once again Darrin. He told the HEAD of the University police. That's pretty sufficient. Start making sense idiot.

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he was forced out of coaching the FIRST time the allegation came up. . . get your facts straight. JoePa is saying he didn't know that charges were brought against his coach that just retired out of no where( he was accused of this more than once), then he says that McQueer didn't tell him what happened(the second time allegations were brought up), yet reported it, yet didn't know what he was reporting. fucker can burn in hell
I live in the area and know people who are involved with the story. You know nothing dipshit.
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Brilliant post once again Darrin. He told the HEAD of the University police. That's pretty sufficient. Start making sense idiot.


I live in the area and know people who are involved with the story. You know nothing dipshit.
I'm as drunk as you and my side is the anti-pedophilia-harboring movement so let's fucking do this!
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dchuk is drinking piss ("bud"), and is therefore not drunk at all
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While Paterno definitely does deserve some blame for this, I'm not convinced that this level of vitriol towards him is reasonable.
Pretty sure turning a blind eye to child rape makes him deserve this and more.

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With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to say that he could have and should have done more but that's a difficult situation. I mean, molesting a child is serious stuff and innocent people have had their reputations and lives ruined over *accusations*.
That's why you take it to the Police and let them decide who to prosecute so they can take it to court and PROVE whether he did it or not.

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Even if we assume that the assistant didn't tell him a sanitized version of the events, rushing straight to the police station with secondhand information is just not on in my opinion. The assistant on the other hand is a grown man who should have gone to the police because he's the one who had eyewitness testimony.
They're all guilty in my book, one isn't more guilty than the other. If any of them had done the right thing maybe a few more kids could have been spared a life of indignity and shame?

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Fuck you. If I'm at work and I go into the bathroom and I see one of my co-workers molesting a child I'm not telling my supervisor. I'M GOING TO CALL THE FUCKING POLICE! Right there on the spot. 9. 1. 1. I'm not gonna run this up my chain of command, this goes so far beyond "telling my boss."

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This goes far beyond a "poor decision." He knew kids were being molested and didn't do shit about it because he didn't want the good reputation he built to be destroyed, so he hid it and only told people he knew would protect his rep, who also covered it up. Rot in Hell Paterno. Rot in hell.

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Hopefully he doesn't die before being sent to prison. I can't wait to see what the inmates do with his cornhole.
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Pretty sure turning a blind eye to child rape makes him deserve this and more.
Except he did report it. Should he have followed it up? Totally. Advised the redhead to tell the police? Absolutely. He should have investigated it privately or done something about the "charity".

I completely agree with you that he didn't do enough. For that he doesn't get a pass from me. I'm just saying that the blame is disproportionate compared to the other people involved with this who failed just as epically.

The assistant, who saw the crime and did nothing, the department, who should have suspended Sandusky and launched an investigation, and the campus police, who didn't bother looking into it, are all getting off fairly easy by comparison. That's what I'm finding unfair.

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That's why you take it to the Police and let them decide who to prosecute so they can take it to court and PROVE whether he did it or not.
Using Paterno's testimony they would've had nothing but hearsay. The university needed to suspend Sandusky, talk to victims/redhead, and then turn him in. Paterno should have done more but making blind accusations based on what the redhead said he saw...I don't know.

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They're all guilty in my book, one isn't more guilty than the other. If any of them had done the right thing maybe a few more kids could have been spared a life of indignity and shame?
Some were more negligent than others in my opinion but I get where you're coming from. I do agree with you that someone should've stepped in sooner.

And I would hope that these kids will one day be able to heal from this rather than live "a life of indignity and shame". I hope they get the help they need. This was a terrible thing to have happen to them.

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Fuck you. If I'm at work and I go into the bathroom and I see one of my co-workers molesting a child I'm not telling my supervisor. I'M GOING TO CALL THE FUCKING POLICE! Right there on the spot. 9. 1. 1. I'm not gonna run this up my chain of command, this goes so far beyond "telling my boss."
Agreed except it was the redhead who saw the kid getting raped. It was the redhead who left without doing anything. And it was the redhead who saw what happened and ultimately didn't tell the police. Not Paterno.

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This goes far beyond a "poor decision." He knew kids were being molested and didn't do shit about it because he didn't want the good reputation he built to be destroyed, so he hid it and only told people he knew would protect his rep, who also covered it up. Rot in Hell Paterno. Rot in hell.
That was a poor choice of words on my part. My bad. I could be wrong on this, but I haven't seen evidence that he masterminded that type of cover-up. Totally willing to change my opinion once the facts come out though.

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Hopefully he doesn't die before being sent to prison. I can't wait to see what the inmates do with his cornhole.
An old man and a child molester. That won't end well for Sandusky and I can't say I'm sorry.
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As a PA native, its hard to put into words how big of an icon Joe Paterno was to the state growing up. Although many opinions have changed on him since the Sandusky situation, there is no doubt how much he has done for college football and PSU. Its absolutely horrible how it all ended. RIP JoePa
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As a PA native, its hard to put into words how big of an icon Joe Paterno was to the state growing up. Although many opinions have changed on him since the Sandusky situation, there is no doubt how much he has done for college football and PSU. Its absolutely horrible how it all ended. RIP JoePa
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