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Old 01-23-2012, 10:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sogay Seriously with this debate...

"Mitt Romney, you want to cut government spending, but would you put money towards the space program?"

What type of question is this??

How about our fucking educational system? We're raising morons. The dropout rate is insane and you can't even fucking afford to go to college. These candidates are a fucking joke. SO FULL OF SHIT.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This country is a festering pile of rat feces, and I love it. The sooner we go Mad Max the better IMO. I'm ready 2 get ruthless.
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im tired of this slow downward spiral thats been going on for decades, just let total chaos explode overnight quick,i want mad max asap
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"Mitt Romney, you want to cut government spending, but would you put money towards the space program?"

What type of question is this??

How about our fucking educational system? We're raising morons. The dropout rate is insane and you can't even fucking afford to go to college. These candidates are a fucking joke. SO FULL OF SHIT.
You think money will fix the problem?
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The degradation of our space program is a big issue IMO, and I'm upset they didn't give all candidates a chance to speak on the issue.

First and foremost, the goal of the human race should be to learn about our surroundings and origins. What the fuck is the point of humanity, to live happy and then die until our species eventually dies out or kills each other? Seems pretty useless.

Secondly, as mentioned by Romney, the commercial potential is HUGE. Space is de-regulated and infinitely larger than the space on Earth. I'd pay $5-10k for a ticket to space and I'm sure thousands/millions of others would as well.
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With our shitty government funding for NASA. We give $18 billion to NASA and spend trillions on military. Military is more important, but not that much more important. There's no need to absolutely dwarf other countries in military spending.
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With our shitty government funding for NASA. We give $18 billion to NASA and spend trillions on military. Military is more important, but not that much more important. There's no need to absolutely dwarf other countries in military spending.
How is Virgin (a private company) offering $200k tickets related to NASA funding levels?
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How is Virgin (a private company) offering $200k tickets related to NASA funding levels?
Funding for the first space hotel, duh? $20k a night faggot, you'll have thousands of millionaires staying for months. Talk about capitalistic government revenue...
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Funding for the first space hotel, duh? $20k a night faggot, you'll have thousands of millionaires staying for months. Talk about capitalistic government revenue...
Why should it be the duty of a government to build leisure facilities? Should they build hotels here on Earth as well, if they can turn a profit? Just how big do you want the US government to get? Why do you hate America?

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Wow, when did it become a duty? It's a capital investment to the security of our country (because it generates revenueeeeeee for us, instead of having to tax high). Plus, would you trust Virgin or NASA to take you to space and secure you there? Ignorance is bliss homo.

Like I said, spending like this would have to follow a major cut in Earth defense spending.
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Wow, when did it become a duty? It's a capital investment to the security of our country (because it generates revenueeeeeee for us, instead of having to tax high). Plus, would you trust Virgin or NASA to take you to space and secure you there? Ignorance is bliss homo.

Like I said, spending like this would have to follow a major cut in Earth defense spending.
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Is building hotels to make a profit (not revenue - who gives a shit about that) listed in the US constitution?

Why would it be in Virgin's interests to kill their own customers?
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So far this debate seems better than the last one though. At least Newt didn't get an immediate standing applause.
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Secondly, as mentioned by Romney, the commercial potential is HUGE. Space is de-regulated and infinitely larger than the space on Earth. I'd pay $5-10k for a ticket to space and I'm sure thousands/millions of others would as well.
If there is huge commercial potential then the government doesn't need to provide funding.
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It's kind of scary to see to that these candidates are running for presidency, the way they think, talk about the future gives me a headache, the non stop bickering is really hurting this country.
My point. I voted for Obama once and I will again for fear that these jokes will make the US a third world country by the time they are done.

Why people don't seem to understand is that it takes about 4 years to really feel the effects of any government changes. 2000-2008 were probably some of the worst In the history if the Preaidency. We spend FUCKING TRILLIONS on a pointless war. You want Osama and Saddam?? Go get them. You know where those niggas be hiding.

What transpired was 8 years of completely ripping our economy apart and ignoring the core foundations that make America great.

NOT FUCKING WAR.

Our schools are the best but we can't afford them.

All of our businesses have gone overseas because labor is cheap. People want jobs with fat pensions and sweet benes all of which cost money. Who wins? Companies do. Give them incentives to bring business back.

We have a strong military yet weve lost over 10000 soldiers. Our military is depleted, bein spread out and can't do what they're supposed to. Provide homeland security.

I mean points could be argued back and forth all day but I don't think Newt fucking Gingrich or Mitt fuckin Romney Is the answer bottom line.

Sanatorum...not sure why he hasn't pulled out yet. Not going to win. And Paul. I love that crazy, yet, intelligent little fuck. It's just too bad he always his fathers hand me down suit.
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I voted for Obama once and I will again for fear that these jokes will make the US a third world country by the time they are done.
WTF?? You proudly vote for the establishment because you're afraid that ppl of the world will laugh at the repubs to the point we'll be come a 3rd world nation??

What kind of a moron are you? I'd assume a classic troll if you didn't go on to say all the stupid supportive shit below. I bet you even believe that there is a difference between republicans and democrats too. Sheesh. Time for some schooling, kiddo.

First of all, face it, we're already a 2nd-world country, with china now the 1st world. We became that way on the books the day Standard and Poor downgraded our credit rating. That coupled with our enormous debt to China makes us the poor ones, and China the richer.

Our shitty, unbacked, fiat money is what is really making us poor. We just keep printing it and have been ever since Nixon was in office. (Really bad though after Clinton left.)

Secondly, there is simply no damage whatsoever that our repug hopefuls can do to us now. It's all just theatre to them, yeah, laughable, but with no real meaning. The world hates us for 1 reason and 1 reason alone: We are an evil empire that steals their oil and assassinates whomever we want whenever we want, without consulting them, even.

Our impunity is so far advanced that we don't even bother sending people to do our assassinations anymore; we just fly a drone over and boom, they're dead, anywhere in the world, without so much as a person to bum a last cigarette from. That's just damn cold.

So the entire world, even our allies, feel the US is a lost cause; a playground bully that china gave a black eye too and we're not going to get better, only worse. They ALL figure that no matter who wins the presidency, Obama, romney, even fucking donald trump... They all figure that it's still going to be the military industrial complex and other powerful corps in charge of us anyway, and they'll almost certainly be right.

The only political party that has existed in America since the assassination of Kennedy is:


Teams red and Blue are just puppets. bread and circuses. Distractions. There are no parties in opposition to the MIC. None.

Unless, of course, it's Paul that wins this time around.

People who have followed Paul's 30 year voting record know that it is the exception... But we're the only ones who know this so I'll forgive you if you haven't followed it closely enough.

To the entire planet save us, this election is meaningless, just more Bread and circuses. Red team and Blue team; totally meaningless, all control still flows from the MIC.

To the Paul Revolution however, it truly is a revolution and that's why the establishment can't allow him to come to power. They can't control him once he gets in.

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Why people don't seem to understand is that it takes about 4 years to really feel the effects of any government changes.
It doesn't take 4 years for everything to be felt... Different actions take different amounts of time to mature and economists know all of those amounts... But you're right assuming that the general public is too impatient. They're morons brought up by the system to think that way on purpose.

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2000-2008 were probably some of the worst In the history if the Preaidency.
Of course, 9/11 changed a lot, but otherwise it's the exact same leadership since the MIC took over.

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What transpired was 8 years of completely ripping our economy apart and ignoring the core foundations that make America great.

NOT FUCKING WAR.
Correct. But why did you pick the number 8? Did the end of Bush's term cosmically align with some astral event that I'm unfamiliar with?

The warmongering shit is still going on, and will go on until we change the foreign policy... Good luck doing that without Paul. Any candidate that ever BREATHES a word of changing our warmongering ways will forever face the same Fate as Paul is seeing now.


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Our schools are the best but we can't afford them.
Best schools eh? I guess you've never heard of Oxford, Cambridge, or any other top-notch schools outside of the USA?

Those actually let you learn useful shit, by the way. Even the less famous ones. They aren't just propaganda machines heavily controlled by the USDOE. The planet is FULL of better schools than here... And we purposefully dumb-down our entire educational system in the USA at the core. (See:
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All of our businesses have gone overseas because labor is cheap.
You're right but you aren't seeing the whole picture.

Cheaper labor elsewhere, and the overall technical revolution that is going on is causing a drastic rate of unemployment that is only going to keep getting worse, not better.

It used to be manageable enough for governments to pump money into businesses to make more jobs, but it hasn't worked lately due to the fact that jobs here aren't helping businesses compete like jobs overseas do.

So never again should we expect unemployment as low as it is now. It has to go up and up and up due to this effect and especially due to increasing bandwidth availability, which will allow 3rd-world countries to more easily do our work for us remotely.

Politicians like Obama trying to fight it are fooling themselves and everyone else who doesn't understand this... They'll find out soon enough that they've only created a bubble, not real jobs. When these bubbles pop the US will be worse off overall, each & every time... Bad stuff will follow each pop, there's no escaping it.


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Paul. I love that crazy, yet, intelligent little fuck. It's just too bad he always his fathers hand me down suit.
Why do you call him crazy? Do you mean "Ballsey?" His ideas are sound and time-tested. He'd the ONLY politician in our lifetimes to learn something from history.

And please get over the fucking suit. It's not going to throw as many voters off as his age is. -And both are totally inconsequential points compared to the Revolution that he's started.

He could wear the fucking Barney the Dinosaur suit to the debates and I'd still vote for him at this point... As long as he keeps speaking against the MIC and big government he's the only chance we've got for regaining any civil liberties or breaking free of our MIC & corporate overlords.
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WTF?? You proudly vote for the establishment because you're afraid that ppl of the world will laugh at the repubs to the point we'll be come a 3rd world nation??

What kind of a moron are you? I'd assume a classic troll if you didn't go on to say all the stupid supportive shit below. I bet you even believe that there is a difference between republicans and democrats too. Sheesh. Time for some schooling, kiddo.

First of all, face it, we're already a 2nd-world country, with china now the 1st world. We became that way on the books the day Standard and Poor downgraded our credit rating. That coupled with our enormous debt to China makes us the poor ones, and China the richer.

Our shitty, unbacked, fiat money is what is really making us poor. We just keep printing it and have been ever since Nixon was in office. (Really bad though after Clinton left.)

Secondly, there is simply no damage whatsoever that our repug hopefuls can do to us now. It's all just theatre to them, yeah, laughable, but with no real meaning. The world hates us for 1 reason and 1 reason alone: We are an evil empire that steals their oil and assassinates whomever we want whenever we want, without consulting them, even.

Our impunity is so far advanced that we don't even bother sending people to do our assassinations anymore; we just fly a drone over and boom, they're dead, anywhere in the world, without so much as a person to bum a last cigarette from. That's just damn cold.

So the entire world, even our allies, feel the US is a lost cause; a playground bully that china gave a black eye too and we're not going to get better, only worse. They ALL figure that no matter who wins the presidency, Obama, romney, even fucking donald trump... They all figure that it's still going to be the military industrial complex and other powerful corps in charge of us anyway, and they'll almost certainly be right.

The only political party that has existed in America since the assassination of Kennedy is:

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. - YouTube

Teams red and Blue are just puppets. bread and circuses. Distractions. There are no parties in opposition to the MIC. None.

Unless, of course, it's Paul that wins this time around.

People who have followed Paul's 30 year voting record know that it is the exception... But we're the only ones who know this so I'll forgive you if you haven't followed it closely enough.

To the entire planet save us, this election is meaningless, just more Bread and circuses. Red team and Blue team; totally meaningless, all control still flows from the MIC.

To the Paul Revolution however, it truly is a revolution and that's why the establishment can't allow him to come to power. They can't control him once he gets in.


It doesn't take 4 years for everything to be felt... Different actions take different amounts of time to mature and economists know all of those amounts... But you're right assuming that the general public is too impatient. They're morons brought up by the system to think that way on purpose.


Of course, 9/11 changed a lot, but otherwise it's the exact same leadership since the MIC took over.


Correct. But why did you pick the number 8? Did the end of Bush's term cosmically align with some astral event that I'm unfamiliar with?

The warmongering shit is still going on, and will go on until we change the foreign policy... Good luck doing that without Paul. Any candidate that ever BREATHES a word of changing our warmongering ways will forever face the same Fate as Paul is seeing now.



Best schools eh? I guess you've never heard of Oxford, Cambridge, or any other top-notch schools outside of the USA?

Those actually let you learn useful shit, by the way. Even the less famous ones. They aren't just propaganda machines heavily controlled by the USDOE. The planet is FULL of better schools than here... And we purposefully dumb-down our entire educational system in the USA at the core. (See: Amazon.com: the deliberate dumbing down of america - A Chronological Paper Trail: A Chronological Paper Trail (9780966707106): Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, Charlotte Iserbyt-Thomson, cynthia weatherly, joel pett: Books for more info on that.) (No affiliate link)



You're right but you aren't seeing the whole picture.

Cheaper labor elsewhere, and the overall technical revolution that is going on is causing a drastic rate of unemployment that is only going to keep getting worse, not better.

It used to be manageable enough for governments to pump money into businesses to make more jobs, but it hasn't worked lately due to the fact that jobs here aren't helping businesses compete like jobs overseas do.

So never again should we expect unemployment as low as it is now. It has to go up and up and up due to this effect and especially due to increasing bandwidth availability, which will allow 3rd-world countries to more easily do our work for us remotely.

Politicians like Obama trying to fight it are fooling themselves and everyone else who doesn't understand this... They'll find out soon enough that they've only created a bubble, not real jobs. When these bubbles pop the US will be worse off overall, each & every time... Bad stuff will follow each pop, there's no escaping it.



Why do you call him crazy? Do you mean "Ballsey?" His ideas are sound and time-tested. He'd the ONLY politician in our lifetimes to learn something from history.

And please get over the fucking suit. It's not going to throw as many voters off as his age is. -And both are totally inconsequential points compared to the Revolution that he's started.

He could wear the fucking Barney the Dinosaur suit to the debates and I'd still vote for him at this point... As long as he keeps speaking against the MIC and big government he's the only chance we've got for regaining any civil liberties or breaking free of our MIC & corporate overlords.
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Virgin has enough money to make an airplane that can fly really high. They have nowhere near enough money to construct a space station and transport people to and from it. The idea I threw out is still far-fetched and was mostly for fun, but if anybody has the capacity to do it, it's NASA.
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