MyOwnDemon

They try to tase him and it doesn't do anything, so they blow him away.

Video: Overkill? Cop's Shoot Suspect Armed With A Crowbar 10 Times!

(It's not really graphic from the camera's angle so even if you're squeamish at stuff like this, it's okay to watch).

I don't know. I've watched this a few times now and it just looks like complete abuse of force. Something doesn't add up. I really don't know the backstory but it just doesn't look right to me.

The guys filming the video are obviously immune to feeling who can't stop laughing at tragedy, but besides that, what do you think?

I'll be interested to see the news story on this, if one exists.

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Can't get the video to load because my connection is all wonky right now, but that sounds like the correct [legal] escalation of force. I dislike cops a great amount, but if you're threatening cops with a deadly weapon, then you're going to get got.

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Telva

FYP.

In situations like this the officer's duty is to protect his colleagues first, the guy was obviously not going to stop, drop the weapon or give up and then moving towards the taser cop in a way that looked like he would attack? Bad idea.

The gun cop had about 0.5 seconds to make a choice.

Put another way, if I was the guy with the bar doing what he did having shown the taser to be ineffective, I'd expect to be stopped by a stronger force when I showed aggression.

Reversal Magnet

Dumb ass brought a crowbar to a gunfight...

ly2 from WF

they should have let the dog get him

fuck cops anyway, even if they did do the right thing. I fucking hate cops.

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1yerrot

Yeaaaaah, you're pretty much gonna get shot toting a crow bar towards cops.

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Hav3n

Suicide by Cop

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Reversal Magnet

That or the idiot thought that they wouldn't shoot him because he "only had a crowbar."

mimoza3

don't know what is more shocking, the cop shooting or the reaction of those watching (generally laughing and amused)
the guy looked like he was to attack, real bad call when you got other cops pointing guns at you

IceToEskimos

The officers involved should have set themselves up differently. Their proximity to the front door increased the likelihood that deadly force would be used. That being said, they did warn him, and tase him, and he did not appear to respond.

If someone was about to hit your friend in the face with a crowbar, would you shoot them?

I would...and once I started pulling the trigger I would not stop until they were on the ground, and posed no further threat.

I don't like the police, and I think we have far too many police officers in America, and they do more harm than good, but I can't fault someone for defending themselves.

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Hav3n

..... And the world had one less drain on society.

People tend to over value 'human life'.

Fuck that... some people are a waste of decent oxygen.

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dumpster

This..

Andrew Scherer

suicide by cop

according to a few commenters its an axe

i wouldnt have released my dog on an axe wielding subject either

the only other option would have been to shoot him

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Rexibit

Dumbass didn't use the matrix to his advantage.

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Kstanki2

I can't help but agree, people who are stupid enough to do this sort of thing are almost always just wastes of resources. He was just going to end up in and out of prison for the rest of his life anyways for the same shit over and over again, fuck him. You bring a crowbar to a gun fight and you are going to lose unless you are Gordon Freeman, thank you natural selection.

That said, cops are usually just a bunch of bullies who think that their job is above the constitution. They consider themselves heroes for locking people up for victim-less crimes and generally aren't bright enough to understand their role in society. 'Just taking orders' at it's worst.

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makethatgreen

Damn there are a lot of assholes up in this forum. The cop couldn't shoot him in the leg or maybe stop after the first 5 shots?

That cop should be charged with murder, no reason at all to shoot the guy an additional 5 times when he is already on the ground.

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ShadowCaster

No, but if srs I kind of agree with makethatgreen, shooting in a leg would suffice..

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Rexibit

That's exactly why the guy must be shot those additional 5 times. He'd go to jail if the guy lived to sue.

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Fatbat

Yup, looks like a ice climbing axe. Not something you want to be on the receiving end of. Why waste perfectly good and expensive dog when you can just waste the scumbag instead. I don't see what the problem is. Looks like a perfectly legit shooting to me.

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metalshark

God damn there are some serous idiots on World Star:

"first off, fuck the crackers filmin this shit...that shit is not funny @all. They shot him n the face with the taser...he never swung shit. they could of use rubber bullets or shot him n the leg or released the dog on him...but to shoot him was wrong. FUCK THE PIGS...i laugh everytime they get murked cuz they derserve that shit "

I actually thought it was quite hilarious. Every time I see a video of some hoodlum like that I just wonder how they managed to make it past age 15.

makethatgreen

inb4 taser was faulty or had dead battery

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DanWesson

I agree that the second volley of fire was unnecessary force, he was already on the ground.

As for you who think they should just aim for the leg, that's a nice thought but impractical. Aiming for anything other than center mass increases the likelihood of a miss and a bystander being hit. It's pretty much Use of Deadly Force 101.

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faceblogger

Fuck cops, but trying to attack cops with with a weapon is just stupid.

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Fatbat

If you watch the video again closely, he was still standing after the first volley. Also another reason why you don't shoot someone in the leg because just like the tazer, it's not necessarily going to stop him especially if they're all hopped up on PCP or something.

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Reversal Magnet

In after "should have shot him in the leg" comment...
I knew it was coming...

The guy had a fucking axe and was walking around swinging it at people...

Yea shoot him in the leg so he can still chop your head off when you get near him...

The cop should be charged with murder? Why? Because he wanted to keep his own life and wanted to make sure non of the other ones were murdered?

How about putting the blame where it belongs... on the dumb ass the put the axe in his own hand maybe?

Yes, let's coddle and baby criminals that threaten people's lives. That guy should have been sweet talked into dropping the axe, given hot cocoa and chocolate chip cookies, put in a jail cell with cable TV and internet, and allowed to update his Facebook status and Twitter.

Fuck this bleeding heart bullshit...

BassHead

This guy was either asking to get killed, on drugs, or thinking deadly force could not be used against him. Either way he was a total moron and I probably would have done the same thing if I was the cop.

But like others have said, the most disturbing part of that video is the reaction of the kids in the car. Wtf kind of upbringing did they have to laugh at a person getting shot right in front of them? Maybe L.A. is more fucked up than I thought...

BassHead

That ^^^^

1yerrot

Definitely suicide by cop. He left the house knowing he wouldn't be returning.

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okuma31

how about some fucking pepper spray? i fail to see how the second round of shots after the brief pause can be anywhere near justified.

DanWesson

I did, and you're right. He was still standing, hunched and with his back turned. Those last five were just a retaliation from the second cop who lost his cool. The first fired five and neutralized the threat. The second cop executed the suspect...in the back. I don't feel sorry for him...just saying.

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statelizard

^^

Cops in Cali only use pepper spray on college kids singing kumbaya and holding hands while sitting on PUBLIC university property exercising their right to free assembly.

Everyone else gets the glock.

tspesh

My thoughts exactly. The actions by the officer are actually explicable.

AllBizNiz

That cop needs a better gun.. Took 5 rounds to drop him and 5 more to make sure he wasn't going to move ever again.

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Andrew Scherer

at first I thought that he shot too many times, but there is no halfway point when it comes to a situation where you're authorized to use lethal force

its called deadly for a reason, he was shooting to kill

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Okard

If I was the cop I would have done the same. It's not like they just saw this guy and blasted him, one cop tried to taze him while the other covered his partner with a gun. The gun was the last resort and not the first choice.

Look at what the guy is holding, one good hit to the head and it could easily kill someone. When he brought the weapon up and started moving towards the 2nd officer, the 1st officer did what he was suppose to do, he protected his partner. Think about it this way, if there was a man with a weapon standing 4feet from your wife and he started to rush towards her and raised up the weapon as if he was about to swing, would your gut reaction be to shoot or waste the split second you have getting your pepper spray so you don't hurt the poor man that's about to knock her head off?

tspesh

The guy was dangerously high on some sort of upper.

He also had a fucking ax pick in his hand.

He also wasn't shot on the ground. He was shot in the back. Whatever.

Reversal Magnet

LMAO...
Pepper spray Vs. Axe

Reversal Magnet

No, you should beg him pretty please with sugar on top to put the axe down. And when he does, because you know for sure that he will, offer your wife to him because you know, the poor guy is obviously stressed and having a bad day, so he needs a piece of ass...

okuma31

Let me refine that, it was obvious this dude was there to start some shit, why not be a bit proactive and spray his ass before it escalated to him swinging the axe? Maybe when he was pacing along the wall, who knows /lol

Kiopa_Matt

Sure there was.

1.) To ensure the guy can't do that to the policeman & their colleagues again.

2.) To show everyone else, don't raise pick axes to cops when they have their weapons drawn.

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JZK721

Redneck got what he deserved!

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Okard

Because they tazed him instead? Unless you expect them to do both at the same time that wasn't an option because it escalated as soon as they started being proactive...

Gertex

The one thing I took away from this video was the 'excitement' when they killed him.

How callous we have become as a society...

1yerrot

THIS.

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mikeshinobi

You just said everything I wanted to say.

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tonymontana

Same. Couldn't believe the people recording were laughing. That shit is fuckin sickening. I'm not defending the guys actions (the guy with the crowbar), but he was someones son, someones grandson, etc..

How the fuck could they laugh as he got shot and killed? RIP to the dude.

advive

First 5 shots were justified, the other five were just wrong. The guys was on the ground and looks like he was shot in the back or side at best...

Reversal Magnet

Oh no... someone laughed at a fool wielding an axe/bar/crowbar at innocent people...

But the "dude" was somoene's son or grandson! Not like the innocent people minding their own business when a Jason Voorhees wannabe came at them had any family.

Let's get those kids and string them up or give them the electric chair...

RIP Jason Voorhees, you will be truly missed dude!