COPEAC FINISHED - Page 2 - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Mugshot · 01-28-2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erect

Someone apparently has never had to take people's livelihood away .... I promise you it's a different emotion.

been had taking livelihoods?

WildGunner · 01-28-2012, 12:58 PM

Same email... stopped promoting way back before they started selling affiliate emails or whatever happened where spam started coming from the email that only Copeac had. Sad. It sucks and all that. Especially how Copeac and Mike were practically heroes here.

Everybody wants money, claims to be a boss and that they are the best, but how about ethics, responsibility and standards. Hopefully, this will serve to members, owners and affiliates here and elsewhere as a notice to change. Despite the money made, to establish good business practices, ethical business models and standards that can last. Companies built on solid foundations and not sand. Solid, ethical, credible foundations, not better methods to be a scumbag, avoid taxes, mislead or cheat people.

Despite the money made it does not last forever. It hurts the industry within itself and it causes government to step in regulate, overreact and overreach. Which in the end causes people to make less money.

The part of this that is disturbing is not only the end results of Copeac, but that members here knew of this, helped to hide it, did not stop it before it happened and defended Copeac or others like Copeac or simply sat to the side because they saw it a gain for themselves or do not care for the community. The only look out for myself mentality is a huge factor in the current state of the industry.

There needs to be a reboot. Advertisers, publishers, data brokers, list managers, methods, practices, products, everything. Industry wide.

Scary? Sure. Worth it? Even more.

JCash · 01-28-2012, 04:57 PM

Tender notions about a brutal industry.

danke · 01-28-2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildGunner

Same email... stopped promoting way back before they started selling affiliate emails or whatever happened where spam started coming from the email that only Copeac had. Sad. It sucks and all that. Especially how Copeac and Mike were practically heroes here.

Everybody wants money, claims to be a boss and that they are the best, but how about ethics, responsibility and standards. Hopefully, this will serve to members, owners and affiliates here and elsewhere as a notice to change. Despite the money made, to establish good business practices, ethical business models and standards that can last. Companies built on solid foundations and not sand. Solid, ethical, credible foundations, not better methods to be a scumbag, avoid taxes, mislead or cheat people.

Despite the money made it does not last forever. It hurts the industry within itself and it causes government to step in regulate, overreact and overreach. Which in the end causes people to make less money.

The part of this that is disturbing is not only the end results of Copeac, but that members here knew of this, helped to hide it, did not stop it before it happened and defended Copeac or others like Copeac or simply sat to the side because they saw it a gain for themselves or do not care for the community. The only look out for myself mentality is a huge factor in the current state of the industry.

There needs to be a reboot. Advertisers, publishers, data brokers, list managers, methods, practices, products, everything. Industry wide.

Scary? Sure. Worth it? Even more.

TLDR Version:

This is a trust based business.

Stop fucking shit up.

jetto · 01-28-2012, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildGunner

how about ethics, responsibility and standards.

UR NOT SRS.

Almost every network out there carries "health" offers that they know don't work, that they know are false advertised and false billed and almost every affiliate sees no problem with that. Some guys did a $1M in revenue preying on other guy's "size insecurities" selling them penis pills that don't work and then bragged about it posting a "case study".

PLEASE.

If there was a "make a deal with the devil" offer, every network would carry it and it would be a HUGE hit with affiliates.

Beach Affiliate · 01-29-2012, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetto

UR NOT SRS.

Almost every network out there carries "health" offers that they know don't work, that they know are false advertised and false billed and almost every affiliate sees no problem with that. Some guys did a $1M in revenue preying on other guy's "size insecurities" selling them penis pills that don't work and then bragged about it posting a "case study".

PLEASE.

If there was a "make a deal with the devil" offer, every network would carry it and it would be a HUGE hit with affiliates.

I'm scaling up a similar (but not PE) project. Would you happen to have a link to that "case study?" For science, of course. Thanks.

jetto · 01-29-2012, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beach Affiliate

I'm scaling up a similar (but not PE) project. Would you happen to have a link to that "case study?" For science, of course. Thanks.

I always wondered when you're doing your design and split-testing of creatives for the campaign, how does it feel to have to look at dude's penises all day long every day? Is it really worth the money?

chatmasta · 01-29-2012, 09:17 PM

Oh how things change...

Beach Affiliate · 01-29-2012, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetto

I always wondered when you're doing your design and split-testing of creatives for the campaign, how does it feel to have to look at dude's penises all day long every day? Is it really worth the money?

It appears you didn't understand my request - particularly the part where I said the project had nothing to do with PE.

Perhaps I should have written it in Crayon?

If you're not willing to answer the question, fine. You could have ignored my polite request or even just replied saying you didn't want to.

Instead, you just proved how inept you are at reading comprehension.

BlokBlok · 01-29-2012, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetto

I always wondered when you're doing your design and split-testing of creatives for the campaign, how does it feel to have to look at dude's penises all day long every day? Is it really worth the money?

You act like its a bad thing looking at penises all day....

amirite?

Fatbat · 01-29-2012, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlokBlok

You act like its a bad thing looking at penises all day....

amirite?

Damn straight... I mean gay.

productionhead · 01-29-2012, 11:16 PM

DAT SHIT CRAY

paulieg · 01-30-2012, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetto

I always wondered when you're doing your design and split-testing of creatives for the campaign, how does it feel to have to look at dude's penises all day long every day? Is it really worth the money?

this is the gay webmaster forum, after all

-p

01-28-2012, 12:58 PM	#52 (permalink)
WildGunner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North America Posts: 268 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Same email... stopped promoting way back before they started selling affiliate emails or whatever happened where spam started coming from the email that only Copeac had. Sad. It sucks and all that. Especially how Copeac and Mike were practically heroes here. Everybody wants money, claims to be a boss and that they are the best, but how about ethics, responsibility and standards. Hopefully, this will serve to members, owners and affiliates here and elsewhere as a notice to change. Despite the money made, to establish good business practices, ethical business models and standards that can last. Companies built on solid foundations and not sand. Solid, ethical, credible foundations, not better methods to be a scumbag, avoid taxes, mislead or cheat people. Despite the money made it does not last forever. It hurts the industry within itself and it causes government to step in regulate, overreact and overreach. Which in the end causes people to make less money. The part of this that is disturbing is not only the end results of Copeac, but that members here knew of this, helped to hide it, did not stop it before it happened and defended Copeac or others like Copeac or simply sat to the side because they saw it a gain for themselves or do not care for the community. The only look out for myself mentality is a huge factor in the current state of the industry. There needs to be a reboot. Advertisers, publishers, data brokers, list managers, methods, practices, products, everything. Industry wide. Scary? Sure. Worth it? Even more. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ No post, comment, text, type, image, picture, or video is to be considered legal, lawful or medical advice. The author is not responsible for content, code, information, data, or opinion contained on any website, electronic communication or derived from such. All exchanges are for entertainment purposes only.

01-28-2012, 04:57 PM	#53 (permalink)
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