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As a father of 3, I try to not judge other people's parenting styles and how they handle situations because you do not know the whole story and everything that led up to the discipline. All the time you hear about, those with no kids, confronting a parent for yelling at their kid or smacking their kid - but they weren't around for the 50 times the parent told their kid not to do whatever it is they were doing wrong.
With that said, this guy is full of fail. I want to show you the value of a dollar by destroying a $1500 laptop that I just put $130 of software on with a clip of $1 bullets. I want you to stop disrespecting me and your mother, by disrespecting you in front of the entire world. I want you to make good decisions at the age of 15, by sitting there smoking a death stick. |
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I'm completely against the idea of entitlements, welfare, and socialism in general but when it's your own children it's entirely different. One of the consequences of having kids is your lifetime responsibility of providing for them and ensuring their success. It's ridiculous that some people seem to think that having kids gives them the right to have free slaves and command them to do whatever they want. This mentality is perfect for building a submissive communist/fascist/totalitarian-ready society. I can't believe so many people support this guy. First he disrespects her by treating her as a subhuman that lacks the fundamental right to free speech, then he demonstrates his view that she and her stuff is worthless and that it's acceptable to destroy property out of anger. He is clearly a very violent psychotic individual.
This guy deserves no respect. Anyone with any intelligence will see that his daughter's safest route is to pretend to be okay with his control-freak nature and in a "truce" with what this retard says, but deep inside, she will always resent him. So many people here seem to have such great logic when it comes to questioning their own government and protecting their own constitutional rights but when it comes to parenting, they suddenly expect children to be submissive servants with no right to express free speech or free thoughts. If you people want to live in a free society, doesn't it make the most sense to raise one? |
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Most people here like to simply argue for fun. Calling the dad out for doing something you deem "petty and immature" and insulting those on a forum for disagreeing with your opinion? LOL. For the comments about this teaching the daughter not to question authority, I think that is the result of you looking at the situation from an emotional perspective. Questioning authority by itself is more dangerous than valuable if you don't teach critical thinking. Disregarding authority with no basis as to why is just plain dumb. And since teaching your kids to respect their parents and teaching them critical thought are not mutually exclusive, there is really no issue. Not the way you would have done it? Fine. Does that make you right and him wrong? From the comments, apparently. There is obviously a pattern of behavior in the daughter that needs to be broken. It sounds like less direct methods of dealing with it haven't been effective. I commend the guy on at least taking a hard line against behavior that should be immediately stopped. When I fucked up, my dad let me know it. There was certainly no mistaking, or forgetting, the consequences of crossing the line. Did I like it at the time? No, what kid does? The old man was a hardass, and looking back, I'm grateful that he was. Only time will tell if the approach is reasonable. So many of the people I meet today had meek parents that tried to talk shit out with a kid who's brain wasn't fully developed, and had no life experiences on which to base rational decisions. Parents that coddle kids emotionally aren't doing them any favors for a world that will kick their ass every chance they get. And guess how the kids turn out? Weak, and it usually manifests itself in one of two ways: Lack in people skills, can't handle themselves when they are faced with hard times, can't stand up to people, and get walked all over. Wishy-washy thinking who's opinions change with the tide, and can't think for themselves. Or the super entitled, I deserve the world because mommy and daddy said so, mentality. Inside of both lives a weak child that was never able to fully develop because the parents failed to equip them with the mental fortitude. It must be the result of a line of thinking that a child is capable of making decisions more important that what they'd like to eat for dinner. Giving the kid at way too young an age that their opinion holds equal weight to that of their parents. Also because that is the easy way out of being a parent. Have the kid tell you what to do instead of actually having to make the choice yourself. But I see the positive in both sides. To the parents out there that are raising their kids this way, thank you. My kids will have an extrordinary advantage as they get older. And they'll need someone to serve them food at restaurants, dig their ditches, and pump their gas. Also, to the parents that give their kids clear boundaries, and kick their asses a bit when they blow through them instead of saying try harder next time; the same parents that as they are teaching their kid to ride a bike, see the kid fall off and get a bit beat up, the kid is crying doesn't want to do it anymore cause it's too hard and they can't do it, make that kid get back on the bike and ride, teaching the kid they can overcome adversity. Thanks are in order. My kids will have peers to connect with and enjoy life with. Life can be a bitch, harden the fuck up. And if you love your kids, teach them to do the same.
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Like BilltheButcher said, judging another person's parenting style is presumptuous. His approach may work for him. If it were my kid, I would have sat her down the first time (months prior) and said:
"You're about to learn a few life lessons. "First, property. My house, my rules. I'm an owner. You're a guest. Do this again, and you're done here. Find somewhere else to live, even if that means blowing random johns in bathroom stalls. "Second, risk management. If you do this again, I may never find out. Then again, maybe I will. I have eyes everywhere. Win or lose, you choose. "Third, choices and consequences. Every choice you make imposes consequences. It's true for investments, business decisions, and posting seemingly benign letters on FB. If I kick you out, your life may be more difficult down the road. "Property, risk, and choices. You'll be dealing with all three for the rest of your life. Your education starts today. Now go make me coffee."
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I am unemotional. Thus, I see no reason to prioritize blood (familial ties) over character. So, for me, winning a family member's respect means nothing if the person in question has a defective character. This girl sounds like a brat. And she's old enough to know - and do - better. This guy needs to abandon his emotions, and lay down the law. Then, enforce it. Edit: lol There I go claiming what this guy needs to do right after I said I shouldn't judge his parenting style. Maybe drama works for this guy.
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![]() I'm also going to use this moment to say (to everyone) If you don't remember anything else about parenting and discipline remember only this one thing: AFT (Always Follow Through). Doesn't matter with what. If you said it, do it. You get almost instantaneous and long term results with that method. You've also just nailed about 75% of parental discipline down right there, just by utilizing motto. |
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I can't remember the last time I was this disappointed. What was the father thinking? To empty a clip of hollow point .45's into a notebook and not flip it over to show the digital exit wounds! He didn't even have to bend over. He could have flipped it over with his shoe. I have to agree with all the other father bashing posters here. This was totally irresponsible. Can't get the thought of what the other side looked liked out of my head. Worst parent ever.
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