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Old 02-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Listen, McCarthyism was based on a lot of bullshit that rarely amounted to anything. The terrorism issue is not a non-issue. There were some likely communists with bad intentions but they never actually did anything. There most certainly are some Islamic terrorists with bad intentions and they have done things.
This particular FBI announcement would be about potential Timothy McVeighs, not Muslims. There were actual Soviet spies in the USA during McCarthy's time and I believe he pointed out a few of them, or people that were helping them. The problem was he pointed the finger at a large amount of people just because they had leftist leanings and he accused them all of being extremists to the point of wanting to turn the USA into part of the USSR.

The same type of thing is going on here where they are lumping a large variety of people into the same group as McVeigh. Going by the way the FBI has defined things, apparently Ron and Rand Paul, Noam Chomsky, Gandhi, and possibly Jesus Christ, all are/were radical anti-government extremists.
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... Paul, Noam Chomsky, Gandhi, and possibly Jesus Christ, all are/were radical anti-government extremists.
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This sounds a lot like the days of McCarthyism with the FBI busy spying on enemies of the state but in those days it was commies and now days it is "terrorists". How did that era end? Didn't it just take a very embarrassing televised inquiry to end McCarthy? Seems like those were simpler days and these days "they" can do things way more blatant and embarrassing without hardly anybody paying attention.
Great parallel. Difference is that the witch they're hunting this time happens to be a very large percentage of this country... The hunters don't even seem to know how small they are in comparison. Also there is no central head to this like McCarthy to embarass... Obviously Obama wouldn't take part in any such proceedings, it would all be done in the existing courts.

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There is also that nagging issue of reality:


The only reality I see is that a bunch of extreme lunatics pulled of a once-in-a-millennium job a decade ago and none of those lunatics are around today to do it again. Even their boss was taken out last year. (Or much earlier.) Do you think the extreme loss of liberties we are facing now are warranted?

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Listen, McCarthyism was based on a lot of bullshit that rarely amounted to anything. The terrorism issue is not a non-issue. There were some likely communists with bad intentions but they never actually did anything. There most certainly are some Islamic terrorists with bad intentions and they have done things.

The reaction is a separate debate but the comparison of McCarthyism and Terrorism just doesn't really hold up.
The deal here is that we Sovereign Citizens are not in any way like the Muslim terrorists who made any attacks. We don't want to attack shit, not even the shitty government we have that attacks us daily.

This is NOT about terrorists v/s the US. As far as I'm concerned that war was over with a 100% US win whenever Bin Laden died.

This is now about the US Gov versus IT'S OWN CITIZENRY. That means you too... You're now associated with this board full of vocal Sovereign Citizens and since NDAA was passed it's totally legal for men in black to throw your ass in a hole for life with no court date. Or now even a drone to take your house out from 20,000 feet.

Just think about that for a minute. Did the 9/11 attack a decade ago warrant this response?? WAR doesn't always warrant that kind of response!


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And I really hate bringing this point up because it comes out of the mouths of people like Bill O'Riley, but if you really think your government dislikes you so much, why the fuck do you chose to live here?
What a naive flaming douche moron you are for thinking the world is so damn simple.

Lots of us want out. Even when you physically get out though, the US can take your money out of any bank account in the world now. So to escape an evil force like that you really better stop using banks for life. Then there's the whole 10-years of taxes even after you leave for good... And then there's the fact that the USA can pick you up in any country worldwide now too. (Like KimDotCom) There really is no escape and still live a life you'd want to live. Heck, you can live in a Ted Kazinsky shack in the woods somewhere here in the USA to do that.

Faggots like Bill O'Riley are propaganda tools who can't look at themselves in the mirror at home each night because they were told to add the word "Choose" to that sentence you quoted.

There is no choice... Only force.

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Breaking out the Latin bro!!??
Honestly I was just quoting Julius Caesar.

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Honestly I was just quoting Julius Caesar.

But thank you, I will be wide awake.

lol...I'm a bit rough on my Latin.

Still not a bad message.
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This is now about the US Gov versus IT'S OWN CITIZENRY. That means you too... You're now associated with this board full of vocal Sovereign Citizens and since NDAA was passed it's totally legal for men in black to throw your ass in a hole for life with no court date. Or now even a drone to take your house out from 20,000 feet.

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Lots of us want out. Even when you physically get out though, the US can take your money out of any bank account in the world now. So to escape an evil force like that you really better stop using banks for life. Then there's the whole 10-years of taxes even after you leave for good... And then there's the fact that the USA can pick you up in any country worldwide now too. (Like KimDotCom) There really is no escape and still live a life you'd want to live. Heck, you can live in a Ted Kazinsky shack in the woods somewhere here in the USA to do that.
I guess it's not that big of an issue for you then.
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tspeh, learn how to respond to multiple quotes within a single response, ok?

..and oh yeah, about you using 9/11 for the justifications of the provisions in NDAA:

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tspeh, learn how to respond to multiple quotes within a single response, ok?

..and oh yeah, about you using 9/11 for the justifications of the provisions in NDAA:
Where did I justify anything?
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