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Old 02-10-2012, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting The writing is on the wall

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Those sort of comments infuriate me. They truly believe that you don't have the right to live outside of their control. These people aren't extremists, it's a growing sentiment. 5-10 years ago, it would sadden me to hear about the death of a police officer. Now, if I heard people were rounding up cops/bankers/politicians to execute them en masse, I'd say it's about fucking time.
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lol I love the comments. The disparity between propaganda being reported as news and what people actually think is growing every day.
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Those sort of comments infuriate me. They truly believe that you don't have the right to live outside of their control. These people aren't extremists, it's a growing sentiment. 5-10 years ago, it would sadden me to hear about the death of a police officer. Now, if I heard people were rounding up cops/bankers/politicians to execute them en masse, I'd say it's about fucking time.
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All dictators start by changing the language. Now, if you value your freedom over some bloated government spending proposal, you're an extremist. Just like the War on Terror is now and "Overseas Contingency Operation", and terrorist attacks are now "Man-caused Disasters". But keep voting him in to assuage your white guilt.
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All dictators start by changing the language. Now, if you value your freedom over some bloated government spending proposal, you're an extremist. Just like the War on Terror is now and "Overseas Contingency Operation", and terrorist attacks are now "Man-caused Disasters". But keep voting him in to assuage your white guilt.
Do you really think this is a partisan issue? The same would be going on with McCain at the helm. Organizations like Greenpeace and Catholic peace groups were put on terrorist watch lists during the Bush years.

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LOL. I thought the article was crazy, propaganda, and/or from the Onion. Then I started to think twice after reading this:

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Those sort of comments infuriate me. They truly believe that you don't have the right to live outside of their control. These people aren't extremists, it's a growing sentiment. 5-10 years ago, it would sadden me to hear about the death of a police officer. Now, if I heard people were rounding up cops/bankers/politicians to execute them en masse, I'd say it's about fucking time.
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'd let 10 sovereign citizens into my home before I'd ever let a single IRS or FBI agent in. It may not be much but that's just the way it is. That's what's wrong with this government.
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I'd let 10 sovereign citizens into my home before I'd ever let a single IRS or FBI agent in. It may not be much but that's just the way it is. That's what's wrong with this government.
This is a stupid comment. Anytime an IRS or FBI agent wants in your house, it's a bad situation. Of course you wouldn't want them in your house.
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This is a stupid comment. Anytime an IRS or FBI agent wants in your house, it's a bad situation. Of course you wouldn't want them in your house.
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Do you really think this is a partisan issue? The same would be going on with McCain at the helm. Organizations like Greenpeace and Catholic peace groups were put on terrorist watch lists during the Bush years.

FBI probes were improper, Justice says
More comparative logic and theories, which is all Obama supporters have left as they quietly scrape their bumper stickers off. Bush is not president, in case you've been asleep. McCain is not president, so save the theories. Neither of them is up for election or re-election. And if they did this, it wouldn't be ok either. Not all of us need the government to save us from ourselves, and not all of us believe that we should be able to take others' money to support our causes just because we're sooo elite and enlightened and progressive. If the shocking growth of overreaching authority and private-life-intrusion in this country over the last decade doesn't bother you, you're a sheep. BAAAAAAAA
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Gentlemen, it's time to start watching our words a little more carefully.

According to the FBI via Reuters reporter Patrick Temple-West, every last Ron Paul voter is a suspect for terrorism and is now deemed a "Sovereign Citizen." -Which before today sounded like it's a GOOD thing to be... But they define it now as:

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Citizens of the US who may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard... Sovereign members often express particular outrage at tax collection.
To my knowledge, this would include every last person who doesn't believe the very most naive versions of history that our public schools try to force upon us. Easily half the nation, if not 4/5ths.

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J.J. MacNab, a former tax and insurance expert who is an analyst covering the sovereign movement, has estimated that it has about 100,000 members.
J.J. MacNab is obviously just looking for enemies to put away a la 1984. Thankfully he's underestimating his chosen opponent a bit. Judging by the comments on that page alone (1500+ HATEFUL comments already? Wow!) the response will be blowback, plain and simple. It is like watching that mouse above swim up to that turtle and smack him in the nose.

Now, the question is, will this blowback be in a true revolutionary form coming sooner than it would have otherwise, or will it simply mean more Ron Paul voters? Let's hope the latter is the case.

In fact this article is awesome for the Paul camp. It might make all the difference because it's certainly pissing off everyone who reads it. Let's all link to it and put it on facebook asap.
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Wasn't NDAA drafted by McCain (R) and Levin (D)? I think that speaks volumes. Don't fall for the fucking distractions man.
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According to the FBI via Reuters reporter Patrick Temple-West, every last Ron Paul voter is a suspect for terrorism and is now deemed a "Sovereign Citizen." -Which before today sounded like it's a GOOD thing to be...
It's almost as if they chose an oldschool washington insider to campaign on the basis of liberty and freedom to expose those who would stand in the way of their plans just so they could catalog them. They could even take this a step further by categorizing based on campaign contribution/social media interest.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. ......................................
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That's J.J. MacNab being interviewed on 60 Minutes on May 15 2011. She claims to have been "studying sovereign citizens for a decade," and explains why it's hard for law enforcement to monitor this anti-government group.

She says that only the "Extreme" ones would shoot cops, and the rest need to be monitored.

Dudes, that is SO us.

I found this vid by searching google Trends for "Sovereign Citizen:"



A-C were not about us. The rest are. This film was D. The introduction of this whole mess.

Suddenly I gotta wonder if It's too late to have my whole account here deleted. ;(
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More comparative logic and theories, which is all Obama supporters have left as they quietly scrape their bumper stickers off. Bush is not president, in case you've been asleep. McCain is not president, so save the theories. Neither of them is up for election or re-election. And if they did this, it wouldn't be ok either. Not all of us need the government to save us from ourselves, and not all of us believe that we should be able to take others' money to support our causes just because we're sooo elite and enlightened and progressive. If the shocking growth of overreaching authority and private-life-intrusion in this country over the last decade doesn't bother you, you're a sheep. BAAAAAAAA
BAAHAHA, you're the sheep if you think the dems and repubs are polar opposites. Maybe they tend to be opposites on abortion and other topics, but that isn't what this thread is about.

John McCain and everyone else in congress have open voting records. Go ahead and blame evil dictator Obama and ignore the fact that McCain and most of his party have also voted for all of the "overreaching authority and private-life-intrusion" legislation.


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The House voted 250 to 153, with 31 Republicans and 122 Democrats opposed.

Earlier, the Senate approved the bill 72 to 23. Four Republicans — Paul and Sens. Dean Heller of Nevada, Mike Lee of Utah and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska — joined 18 Democrats and independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont in opposition.
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Just barely kidding bro. The fact that film is almost a year old says wicked-bad shit about this situation... Some fed has probably watched every single day of our RP promotions and knows us all by our threat level number.

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You left out the fact that anyone reading this board will be imbued with Homosexual tendencies. Especially men who work online primarily.
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I mean that in the nicest possible way. Luke, you have probably left your run too late and will be detained the next time try to board a plane and Andrew, well, you are super fucked because they probably have a swat team outside your house at this very minute.
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I can only assume that you mean that being in Mexico, that makes you safe. I'm sure Kim Dotcom thought that sitting in New Zealand as well, and that's even further away.
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Allegedly some people here think drones ruling over all the sky's is good for us too. Just saying.
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This sounds a lot like the days of McCarthyism with the FBI busy spying on enemies of the state but in those days it was commies and now days it is "terrorists". How did that era end? Didn't it just take a very embarrassing televised inquiry to end McCarthy? Seems like those were simpler days and these days "they" can do things way more blatant and embarrassing without hardly anybody paying attention.
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This sounds a lot like the days of McCarthyism with the FBI busy spying on enemies of the state but in those days it was commies and now days it is "terrorists". How did that era end? Didn't it just take a very embarrassing televised inquiry to end McCarthy? Seems like those were simpler days and these days "they" can do things way more blatant and embarrassing without hardly anybody paying attention.
There is also that nagging issue of reality:
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I can only assume that you mean that being in Mexico, that makes you safe. I'm sure Kim Dotcom thought that sitting in New Zealand as well, and that's even further away.
Haha well mostly grasping at straws for any reason to post mexican nyan cat.

I will say this though. Distance bears no relevance to your chances of extradition. Kim's only mistake is he kick backed his chair in a streamlined 1st world country. Down here and further south, unless you're a serious criminal, freedom has a price. I imagine its the same for many other places around the world too.
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ZOMG TERRRISTS


You know what scares the shit out of me? It ain't dirty muslim terrorists, it's my own government. The government has done far more damage to me than any fucking terrorist. I'm guessing the people in power have about the same degree of contempt for American citizens as the terrorists do.

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You know what scares the shit out of me? It ain't dirty muslim terrorists, it's my own government. The government has done far more damage to me than any fucking terrorist. I'm guessing the people in power have about the same degree of contempt for American citizens as the terrorists do.

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Why are you so sensitive? Don't read so much into things.

Listen, McCarthyism was based on a lot of bullshit that rarely amounted to anything. The terrorism issue is not a non-issue. There were some likely communists with bad intentions but they never actually did anything. There most certainly are some Islamic terrorists with bad intentions and they have done things.

The reaction is a separate debate but the comparison of McCarthyism and Terrorism just doesn't really hold up.

And I really hate bringing this point up because it comes out of the mouths of people like Bill O'Riley, but if you really think your government dislikes you so much, why the fuck do you chose to live here?
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...the comparison of McCarthyism and Terrorism just doesn't really hold up.
On the contrary, the parallels are many. Just now it's much worse with secret prisons, torture accepted, stripping citizenship to name a few. But the same witch hunt and putting labels on anybody who dares disagree with government policies are exactly the same tactics.
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oooo I just came up with a great quote.

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But the same witch hunt and putting labels on anybody who dares disagree with government policies are exactly the same tactics.
Who is this happening to?


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The majority of history consists of governments running amuck.
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You know what scares the shit out of me? It ain't dirty muslim terrorists, it's my own government. The government has done far more damage to me than any fucking terrorist. I'm guessing the people in power have about the same degree of contempt for American citizens as the terrorists do.

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Jesus fucking christ loyolabenson that's the worst thing I've seen a fucking long ass time. (definitely not requoting it here.)Seriously that is going to replay in my dreams. Fuck.
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This place is a hotbed for 'sovereign citizens', I'd bet that they have an eye on us. At least we can rest assured that at some point in some underground CIA base hidden beneath a vineyard in the southwest, there was a moment of justice where the sunken faces investigating sovereign citizens in front of their rows of computer monitors jolted upward as music bellowed throughout the room, but one face could not turn away from his monitor and from that point on he became our inside horse, our only sexually confused hope for sovereign freedom.

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Jesus fucking christ loyolabenson that's the worst thing I've seen a fucking long ass time. (definitely not requoting it here.)Seriously that is going to replay in my dreams. Fuck.
Same. I was actually going to take a nap after some WFing but I GUESS NOT.
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