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Old 02-14-2012, 08:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boobs Looking to hire online marketing manager

This feels a little spammy, but it cannot be any worse than all that football spam

I'm looking to hire an experienced media buyer or ppc campaign manager. It's a full time position and you'll be required to re-locate to Nassau, Bahamas.

The base pay is generous and then there is a very aggressive bonus structure on top of that.

Here's a link to the full job description on LinkedIn:

Director, Online Marketing at Online Advertising Agency (Nassau, Bahamas) in Nassau, Bahamas - Job | LinkedIn

If anyone refers me someone who I end up hiring, I'll send you a $10,000 referral fee.


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Could you submit your CV through LinkedIn?

I'm currently working with an attorney to see what options there are for citizenship etc, I'll have more answers on that in a few days.

Citizenship and being allowed to live there are two different things, they can be pretty finicky about who they give citizenship to.
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Looks like a pretty brutal position with a shit-ton of responsibility. GL to whomever takes this on.
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I know fuck all about PPC / media buys, but just curious as to what niche this is in. Please entertain mu curiosity
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Could you submit your CV through LinkedIn?

I'm currently working with an attorney to see what options there are for citizenship etc, I'll have more answers on that in a few days.

Citizenship and being allowed to live there are two different things, they can be pretty finicky about who they give citizenship to.
No, get me out of this shit hole first, then we'll talk.
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Man, it will be hard to find someone :P
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Why's that? (serious, want feedback)
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My initial thoughts, and could definitely be wrong, but in short given all of the qualifications you're listing, my first question to anyone who applied would be...

"If you can do everything I've outlined, why are you looking for a job?"

Because lead generation, media buys, product development, etc etc - most people who have those skills, I'd *guess*, learned them from running their own stuff.

And if they're good, the only way you're tearing them away from doing their own thing is giving them an established resource to tap into that they can leverage and bank more $$$ using your existing data, customer base, lists, marketing budget etc.

I'm not saying an employee with experience doing this for companies doesn't exist. But you list no base salary, no examples of how much the bonus incentives can potentially payout and things like that.

So, that'd bring me back to wondering why anyone who applies has time to throw CV's into job openings with no specific income details. Again, if they're who you're looking for they probably don't have time to bother unless you're putting the incentive to do so right upfront.

On top of that, relocating to the Bahama's (a degree + 10 years marketing experience + relocating to the Bahama's, the age group implied here IMO has family and probably no interest in relocation).

Not saying it can't be done, and this is probably a good place to look. I do think it'd be difficult to find who you're looking for.

Again, for me it'd go back to...

"If you can do everything I've outlined here, and have a proven track-record, is the best ROI on your time really applying for jobs on LinkedIn when you don't even know the details of compensation or the market you'll be working in?"

Just some thoughts.

I think it'll be tough. Not impossible.

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My initial thoughts, and could definitely be wrong, but in short given all of the qualifications you're listing, my first question to anyone who applied would be...

"If you can do everything I've outlined, why are you looking for a job?"

Because lead generation, media buys, product development, etc etc - most people who have those skills, I'd *guess*, learned them from running their own stuff.

And if they're good, the only way you're tearing them away from doing their own thing is giving them an established resource to tap into that they can leverage and bank more $$$ using your existing data, customer base, lists, marketing budget etc.

I'm not saying an employee with experience doing this for companies doesn't exist. But you list no base salary, no examples of how much the bonus incentives can potentially payout and things like that.

So, that'd bring me back to wondering why anyone who applies has time to throw CV's into job openings with no specific income details. Again, if they're who you're looking for they probably don't have time to bother unless you're putting the incentive to do so right upfront.

On top of that, relocating to the Bahama's (a degree + 10 years marketing experience + relocating to the Bahama's, the age group implied here IMO has family and probably no interest in relocation).

Not saying it can't be done, and this is probably a good place to look. I do think it'd be difficult to find who you're looking for.

Again, for me it'd go back to...

"If you can do everything I've outlined here, and have a proven track-record, is the best ROI on your time really applying for jobs on LinkedIn when you don't even know the details of compensation or the market you'll be working in?"

Just some thoughts.

I think it'll be tough. Not impossible.

Good luck.

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My initial thoughts, and could definitely be wrong, but in short given all of the qualifications you're listing, my first question to anyone who applied would be...

"If you can do everything I've outlined, why are you looking for a job?"

Because lead generation, media buys, product development, etc etc - most people who have those skills, I'd *guess*, learned them from running their own stuff.

And if they're good, the only way you're tearing them away from doing their own thing is giving them an established resource to tap into that they can leverage and bank more $$$ using your existing data, customer base, lists, marketing budget etc.

I'm not saying an employee with experience doing this for companies doesn't exist. But you list no base salary, no examples of how much the bonus incentives can potentially payout and things like that.

So, that'd bring me back to wondering why anyone who applies has time to throw CV's into job openings with no specific income details. Again, if they're who you're looking for they probably don't have time to bother unless you're putting the incentive to do so right upfront.

On top of that, relocating to the Bahama's (a degree + 10 years marketing experience + relocating to the Bahama's, the age group implied here IMO has family and probably no interest in relocation).

Not saying it can't be done, and this is probably a good place to look. I do think it'd be difficult to find who you're looking for.

Again, for me it'd go back to...

"If you can do everything I've outlined here, and have a proven track-record, is the best ROI on your time really applying for jobs on LinkedIn when you don't even know the details of compensation or the market you'll be working in?"

Just some thoughts.

I think it'll be tough. Not impossible.

Good luck.

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I'm just curious what Niche this is in, It would be hard as hell and take a team to spend 500k on Google, Yahoo! and adblade cloaking, so I wouldn't think its Pharma or Gambling.

Forex maybe?
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I'm just curious what Niche this is in, It would be hard as hell and take a team to spend 500k on Google, Yahoo! and adblade cloaking, so I wouldn't think its Pharma or Gambling.

Forex maybe?

I think it's travel/vacation, but I may be wrong. Spent a few min looking up OPs name.
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I think it's travel/vacation, but I may be wrong. Spent a few min looking up OPs name.
The Director of Online Marketing will be tasked with lead generation on a large scale. You’ll be managing a large advertising budget in order to generate high-quality leads in the finance vertical.

Company Description

We are a small online advertising agency catering to the financial niche.

It is all in the Job Description
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The Director of Online Marketing will be tasked with lead generation on a large scale. You’ll be managing a large advertising budget in order to generate high-quality leads in the finance vertical.

Company Description

We are a small online advertising agency catering to the financial niche.

It is all in the Job Description
heh, skimmed it didn't catch that part, Guess I wasn't far off on my guess tho.
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I'm thinking whoever is really good at it isn't interested in answering to a boss, I could be wrong though.
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I'm thinking whoever is really good at it isn't interested in answering to a boss, I could be wrong though.
same, this is just like markus looking for an SEO guy.

When i read the job description all i hear is

"We are looking for a badass PPC guy who is able to generate $x,xxx worth of leads every day by himself, the only catch is that we want you to work for us, make us all the money, and we'll pay you a salary, plus a gimmicky bonus!"

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This sounds like a good job position guys. Don't hate.

Not everyone wants to work on their own. Some people (especially those with a family) want security and a stable income.

7 years ago I got offered a similar job (although more technical and less managerial) in Bermuda for 75k (tax-free) which I declined, but they had NO problem finding somebody else! Lots of people in Canada and the U.S. want to move to a Caribbean destination while earning a high and tax-free income.

OP probably got a lot of PMs already and it's good thing he's posting on WickedFire. Smart move. While other IT/Marketing recruiters are wasting their time/money posting on Monster. lol
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I hear you, but I think the difference is - I'm not putting someone in an office and saying "sling berries and I'll keep all the dough".

I have a deep established business that allows me to monetize these leads better than 99% of people, this allows larger profit margins that then allows us to pay higher CPC's. I don't need someone who is so good that they could clear $1m a year for themselves... I just need someone technically brilliant who can advance an already advantageous position.

Another factor is that a lot of people, however brilliant, just prefer working for others. Going home, clocking off and not having all the stress and anxiety that comes from having your own money on the line.
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@stockfire, have you talked to William?

I heard he just left shareasale and would be perfect for this job.
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@stockfire, have you talked to William?

I heard he just left shareasale and would be perfect for this job.
Nope, haven't spoke to any William.

Please pm me his contact info.
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Nope, haven't spoke to any William.

Please pm me his contact info.
I'll send you his info. I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same person.
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I'm just curious what Niche this is in, It would be hard as hell and take a team to spend 500k on Google, Yahoo! and adblade cloaking, so I wouldn't think its Pharma or Gambling.

Forex maybe?
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Why not just farm it to a PPC agency and do a rev share with a non-compete? Who the hell wants to deal with an employee or employees? IMO they are a drain and you end up training someone who becomes a competitor in 12 to 18 months.

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Why not just farm it to a PPC agency and do a rev share with a non-compete? Who the hell wants to deal with an employee or employees? IMO they are a drain and you end up training someone who becomes a competitor in 12 to 18 months.

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OP mentioned having an established business where they can afford to pay more per lead than competitors. This partially implies he already has an established team of lead sales/biz dev.

This sounds like a really compelling position, just because you have had some success in media buying doesn't necessarily put you in the position to want to be an affiliate slingin the berries for a 3rd party, worrying if you will get paid out or if the FTC will come knocking because of the morals/disreguarded for applicable laws that may have had to be shed to get there. <-- run on incoherent thought
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