dogfighter

Many moons ago there was an affiliate network that made the mistake of pissing off some people at WF. By the time it was over, they'd had to hire reputation management professionals and lawyers just to stop the shit-storm.

I'm starting this thread to share ideas with anyone who has been fucked over in one way or another by a business and wants to settle a score. I'll put down some of my favorites and you can (please) tack on any of yours.

1. Yelp

This is an obvious one, but you can post a bad review on yelp. Hell, you can get your friends to post bad reviews on yelp. You can get someone on freelancer.com to create 100 verified yelp accounts for you and post from them. If you're scurred of getting caught, use Tor. Make sure to flag your other reviews as "Useful" and "Cool" and "Funny", and to add some friends and throw up a few other reviews to give the review some weight. After you assassinate their yelp rating, you can do some low-hanging-fruit inbound link blasts to get that page to rank above their own for their name.

2. Phone & Email

Sign up for every co-reg email/zip submit offer you can find using their info.

3. Name

If I owned a business, I sure wouldn't want offensive and/or pornographic comments I posted on high-PR blogs under my name showing up...

4. Attorney General

I used to do e-mail marketing for a living and let me tell you... when the state attorney general starts contacting you about failure to unsubscribe people, it's bad. I've worked for companies that have had to suspend their entire email operation for days while they sort through their lists for e-mail addresses that were supposed to be suppressed.

5. Ripoff Report

An obvious one, but still a bane to any business owner.

I'll add more as they come to me. Certain online flower delivery companies should be more careful when fucking people out of their money.

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music4mic

I've used youtube video reviews. If you don't want to be on camera there is always fiverr or you could just use images and text. Either way, it's pretty effective. The advantage of doing this is it's pretty easy to rank for their main keywords very quickly and people eat up these reviews.

poisonsembrace

Order pizza to their house.

ly2 from WF

ripoff report and then order SGW to the ripoff report.

then murder their entire family.

then post greatsuccess.jpg in this thread

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Airin

LOL.

A local restaurant that we dropped probably $30k at last year pissed off my CEO. He bought "RestaurantName"sucks.com and had one of our marketing people compile every bad review about it, update it weekly and he let our internal SEO guy lose on it. Very shortly after, the site was ranking on the 1st page when you searched for that restaurant's name.

The owner called and was told he could buy the site for $100k. He then tried calling the police on us. Let's just say the site is still up and being updated weekly.

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joevis

You should rename this thread How to Spend Countless Hours Accomplishing Nothing.

Tobias Funke

I was actually going to add something like this. It's a great idea.

faceblogger

Protection.PPC.bz

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dogfighter

Speak for yourself shithead, I got 25 hours of free auto work from Firestone this way, and that's just the most recent. Just let people rip you off and do nothing about it... cuz that's exactly what they'll keep doing

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nickster

Are there no companies that can do all this for you for a fee? (Business idea )

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bobby_custard

What?! Some chick didnt get her flowers on time and you want to waste valuable work hours fucking shit up? There are other women out there you know...

tonymontana

This is more for local buinesses, as SEO competition is usually very slim. Create two accounts on Yahoo Answers. Ask a question (talking about they scammed you and whatever, and asking what you should do). Answer question with other account saying you had a similar experience with that company. Oh and obviously, put the companies KW in the question and KW stuff the question.

Blast the link with tiered links. Done this a number of times. A simple blast of 5000 links using SB usually get me top 3. High enough to fuck the company over. Obviously, you don't have to use YA, you can use web 2.0 properties, etc.. but I've found Yahoo Answers to work the best.

nickster

Ok, this is just theoretical.

So a traffic source (small network) fucked me over and sent me a load of scam traffic and are not answering my emails for an explanation and so I can also get my outstanding balance back. I want to do something that is reversible but will have an impact (like 5+ of the top 10 search results on Google for their company name with the title "CompanyName Scam?"). I don't want it to be permanent, so I can remove them if the company decides to start to act in an honest way.

Does anyone know of a service that can do this?

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AdHustler

Twitter usually gets me results & FAST!

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ScrogginsSharda

this is the most attractive line found in the first post

mimoza3

was never big on revenge but if the need will ever come up I'm heading to this thread.
once threatened "Dell" to put things right or I will use my (at that time) many Twitter accounts and heavy FB pages to slam them, it was fixed in 2 days (they sent a downgraded desktop, was a business account not directly with Dell)

papajohn56

if you bought something with a credit card, file a dispute/chargeback - no easier way to piss off whoever watches over their merchant accounts.

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nickster

I wouldn't be interested in revenge, more like leverage.

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AdHustler

I'm telling you guys, twitter is the way to go.

Last week I got:

Saucony to send me (2) new free pairs of shoes after fighting with their social media retard.

Time Warner Cable to give me a statement credit and my own customer service rep after they didnt show up at my house when they said they would.

Both of these were after going through normal customer service channels and getting nowhere.

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cheshire

I vote for twitter too. I never wait on hold anymore. One twitter post and I got heads of departments calling me.

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Beach Affiliate

Sometimes when you throw dirt, you lose ground.

AdHustler

exactly

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Hav3n

^^^

/resposts Gary Vaynerchuk vid.

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Dwight Schrute

Posting onto Enterprise Rent-a-Car's Facebook page got me a $200 refund. Within 10 minutes of the post, I received a private message from someone with a direct phone line to call.

Problem solved within 2 hours.

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blank_czech

Nice, I thought you were only going to end up with 50% off at first

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nickster

Problem is that the twitter and FB thing works with a large, relatively honest company that cares a lot about it's brand image, but it doesn't really work much on a small/medium company who doesn't use twitter much and would just remove your post from their FB wall.

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turbolapp

I'd say, unless you're making money with your revenge, just forget it. Now with regards to making money, I'd say before you do anything consult a lawyer, the last thing you need is to be charged with extortion. But I bet if you're clever you can at least recover your costs and maybe make some money with methods mentioned above.

A pretty good way of avoiding any potential charges would be to build up some 301's and redirect them to competition, push down the asshole's site. Then call him up and let him know you would be happy to push back those 301's to his site if he made good on what he owes you AND continues to pay you a monthly fee. (with the understanding those links will be pushed back to the competition should he fail to make good again) What can he do? Sue you for working for the competition?

And what better revenge is there then to have this guy that thought he fucked you over and got away with it, now voluntarily being pwned on a monthly basis?

Meatytreats

I guess resorting to retaliation to get leverage is one way to do things.. Or you could hire some Russians to DDoS their site and totally fuck them...

However, it takes time and energy to do this shit... And it's negative, angry energy to boot. Which in time will take it's toll on you!

Me? I prefer to focus on making more money, because there will always be dumb fucks in business who do you wrong and the only way to not get caught up in this loop of retaliation is to make enough fucking money to where you don't care!

DO SOMETHING POSITIVE WITH YOUR TIME!

dogfighter

Got the flowers delivered to her home in another city at 8:00 at night, plus a full refund from a company that essentially told me to go F myself. The power of credible threats

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dogfighter

Oh, and although some might consider this going above and beyond, I can tell you with certainly that it doesn't cost much to have a homeless person break all the windows in a storefront. Or so I've heard

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-Marc Bojanowski

wiredniko

I work in the TV cable industry, I can tell you what gets escalated the quickest:
1. Email to CEO / VP
2. Youtube
3. Twitter
4. Facebook
5. Blog
6. Call

Its the sad truth. Youtube videos make people go crazy.

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dogfighter

So years ago there was a UPS driver who was delivering things to my GF's office building. Her office was mostly young attractive females, so this guy used to just hang around the office and try to chat them up.

My GF was asked to call UPS and complain about the guy, and when they told him to knock the shit off, they actually gave him her full fucking name. Later that night when she went home, he was parked in his truck outside her house. No joke.

I called UPS to get it straightened out and they tried to stonewall me. I got the full name of the person I was talking to, and I started reading off names to her from Jigsaw.com of various managers, directors, etc and told her I'd be e-mailing them all to let them know how she had handled a very serious and potentially dangerous situation.

I also mentioned that, while my GF is 5'4 100lbs, I'm 6'5 and a gun owner, and if he shows up again he's leaving feet first and I'll be announcing her name to the media and to the police when they ask what happened.

Two days later the guy was in a police station crying in a room full of cops and private investigators. So say what you want about "wasting your time", but the shit works when you need it to. Nobody wants their name attached to this shit, especially when you tell them that every employer who googles them for the rest of their life will read whatever you want them to read. Losing your job is almost guaranteed if that happens.

That's a 100% true story, albeit the most extreme example I have to date.

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I was a young man when I fought dogs in Mexico. There were many dog fighters but none as great in size or as quiet. Then I was unsure of my words. But the fighting was always a language I spoke well.
-Marc Bojanowski

RoughOutline

Ordered some Dominos a few weeks ago and this dipshit delivery boy was 5 minutes late. Needless to say the mafia got involved and offed his family, got some hobos to smash up that domino store's windows and made a website to complain. 50 years in prison but so fucking worth it.

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AdHustler

Thats what they offered until I caused some twitter issues for them. I went around to a couple people tweeting that they were thinking of buying a pair and @ them and saucony how i thought their quality has gone down. They wanted that stopped real fast.

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Kiopa_Matt

What would you rather spend your energy on? Tearing other people down, or building yourself up?

No brainer if you ask me.

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dogfighter

Damn baby that shit is deep, you're definitely a no brainer.

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I was a young man when I fought dogs in Mexico. There were many dog fighters but none as great in size or as quiet. Then I was unsure of my words. But the fighting was always a language I spoke well.
-Marc Bojanowski

Dresden14

stopped reading after "Many moons ago". Fucking indian stories.. cant read on...

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wikifire

lol, this is a gd deal man, of course you'll find haters, even in this thread.

if you say that u don't support this idea and then go about commenting against this thread, aren't u already wasting your time? aren't u contradicting urself? there are many people who don't agree to this, who might read this and then walk away cos it doesn't bring any benefit to them, try to be like them. if u take a step further, those who really cherish their time, the title would already not make them into this thread.

now, gg towards more constructive things... I like the idea, I would've created this thread myself!

now we got a list of people who are keen on this, lets take it to the alley and prevent further "I don't like this idea" comments. concentrate on those who has a purpose. update each other with the latest tactics to get what we want.

in summary, people call it revenge but I call it satisfaction.

if u were to give me an option to either choose all the money in the world or happiness, its apparent even to those haters. think abt it.

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ycart

I once sent an email to the whole city council, county vector control and the CDC about my old apartment complex and their rat problem. Awesome results!


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Mightier

I know someone who was consistently woken up at 4 am by their kid's school's robo dialer, telling them school was cancelled due to snow. Evidently, it wasn't enough to send emails, text messages, update the school website, and have the local news channel broadcasting the information.

Anyway, acquainted called the school asked them to stop. Nothing. He got together other annoyed parents. Nothing. Wrote to the superintendent, etc. Nothing.

Later that winter, another call came through and he flipped his shit. He hired his own robo dialing service that called the superintendent and every member of the school's board randomly between 4 - 6 am for a week asking them how they liked being woken up at the crack of dawn with useless information.

They added an opt-out option shortly after.

nickster

What the fuck??? I know this guy is trying to say something, but I can't for the life of me work out what it is. Maybe Google translate is broken.

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wikifire

lol, for those who don't understand... need not understand.

take care mate.

Charto911

Seeing these problems all day everyday I can say if you want to receive an I'm sorry and get something for free or discounted than go to Twitter (as adhustler said) but most companies that screw you over probably dont have a twitter so thats not a feasible solution.

Aside from RoR which is one of the strongest you could do everything from press releases (if you feel compelled to spend money to let the world know about an unscrupulous individual or company), pissed consumer, company name sucks, as well as the creation of parasites (.wordpress, blogspot, posterous), and others that you cant just pick up the phone and call the hosting company to complain. A possible solution to the attackee would be to have to hire all star lawyer like Aaron Kelly and an amazing reputation management company to solve the issue.

Also throwing xrumer blasts and posts to a few thousand forums from a misc. proxy would help too.

You should only do this if you have a legitimate problem

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crackp0t

How do you know he was crying?

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wikifire

LOL, good point, but won't it be epic if he replied:

"I was one of the police officer in the investigations room"

woo hoo... NAILED!