Instrumentalist

Seriously, I just found out about this redesign, and nobody seemed to give a shit, because if people did I probably would have heard about it a lot earlier. Remember when FB had a major redesign and the shitstorm that it caused?

Anyway, here's a video on the matter. Fucking hilarious listening to Google's evasion of simple questions such as "How many users actually use the timeline."

CNET TV | Video Product Reviews, CNET Podcasts, Tech Shows, Live CNET Video - CNET TV

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momchil9

google+ users - 150million(99.9%gmail users that never open their + accounts)

facebook - 700MM UV/month with an average 40 minutes spending on the site.

FWIW techcrunch had the google+ redesign as featured article for half a day.

subigo

wtf.... I don't have an account anymore, but I found a picture of the new layout. Whitespace much?

http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/upl...whitespace.jpg

Gambit

Yeah I heard about the redesign. I went and gave G+ a second chance last week. There's nothing there that kept me interested. It's like a ghost town.

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ly2 from WF

sup Guerilla

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wiredniko

Biggest thing introduced is trending.

My G+ traffic has doubled since the new update, all from trending.

So yeah, get with it yo. Takes 1 extra minute to G+ a page, gives traffic back.

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haiser

Yeah I heard about the redesign.

guerilla

Hi Ly2.

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(O_o)

looks pretty awesome

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CCarter

That layout looks familiar... Just cant remember where... i've seen it... Before

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Unarmed Gunman

lulz at all the people still comparing G+ to Facebook. You're missing the point.

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CCarter

I think G+ completely missed the point. You cant force social onto people. It help with rankings, i acknowledge that, but when this goes the way of Google Buzz, all that time that was wasted, well was wasted.

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TomlinKemberlyy

yeah have already seen this redesigned thing lately

ly2 from WF

Doubled from 1 to 2. Sick increase bro.

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guerilla

Double your salary, then tell me it isn't a big deal.

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ly2 from WF

There is no point, that is the point. G+, no purpose what so ever.

The only faggots who use that shit are Rand Fishkin and his fucking ass pirate buddies and the entire userbase at WaFo so their indian followers are alerted every time they upload a new fucking article to ezinearticles.

Fucking G+, lul.

Even more retarded than Google Buzz and Google Wave. Well, maybe not Google Wave, but it's pretty fucking worthless.

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wat?

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Regular website vs website with 2k G+'s dropped over a month =

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guerilla

Exactly.

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negro2k

google+ what a joke bet whoever is responsible for it from their 20% fun bouncy ball time off work or whatever is constantly thinking of killing themself for their gay idea

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1yerrot

I take SO much glee in the failure of Google+, I can't even explain it.

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Failure?

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monies

define exactly

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1yerrot

Yeah. Failure.

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guerilla

It's not about you. He has this irrational hatred of Google+ and an inability to understand the blending of social signals with search (and yet he buys likes and tweets, go figure).

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Unarmed Gunman

How has it failed?

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1yerrot

Exactly. A social platform that nobody but SEOs and Google fanboys use and he asks how has it failed, lol.

Go to the mall and ask 100 people if they use Google+ , after you have to explain to them what it is then come back and talk to me.

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guerilla

It's not a social platform the way you guys think it is.

It's an authorship platform for high end Google users, and eventually may become another social platform.

All of the utility right now is in being able to promote your content in the SERPs, which is something SEOs should be interested in...

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1yerrot

Yeah but they need the actual everyday public to use Google+ for social to get the leverage they are looking for and it aint happening. I don't know a single non-SEO that uses it and I don't expect any of my "normal" friends to start using it either.

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Unarmed Gunman

No, they need the content producers (ie gay webmasters) to use it so that they can better control the display of information in the SERP's that are displayed to your "normal" friends. Google doesn't rank anything your normal friends produce, so what would they need them for? They already have them using their search engine, their phones and Youtube.

They aren't trying to be Facebook, they're tying together their various platforms. Facebook and Google are in a war to end anonymity and control who owns you online. Right now Facebook has Facebook, but Google has several different points of entry as mentioned above.

I'll give you an example, a lot of larger sites are using Facebook comments because they know you are less likely to spam and act abusive if your "Facebook identity" is tied to your comments. Now imagine that on a much larger scale, but instead of comments, we're talking all the content online. The best way for them to stop us from manipulating their results is to have our Google identities tied to all our sites.

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1yerrot

Yeaaaaah, they have been trying to force everyone with a computer to join their piece-o-crap SOCIAL platform because they just need webmasters. LOL.

They're gonna get bunch of great and accurate sample data with a bunch of offer-driven SEOs and fanboys hopping around in that ghost town. Brilliant!

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guerilla

No they don't.

That's irrelevant to Google.

You're still thinking of it as a social platform rather than an authorship platform.

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1yerrot

I understand the bigger picture they have in mind for that turd-on-a stick but they have to get to point A before they can get to point Z.

I see their point Z and I also see that they fail time and time again to even accomplish point A.

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Unarmed Gunman

They already have 170 million users in 9 months. They are past point A.

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Google+ is working as intended and working well for the people it is designed for.

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JCash

Matt Cutts and Rand Fishkin and Neil Patel and the 50,000 people who envy them?

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momchil9

I cannot really comment on how efficiently it can be used for SEO, but am pretty sure google wanted to create a broad social network just like facebook, for if(when) social search is a big portion of how content is discovered.

It clearly did not work out for them, despite their efforts for force it upon users.

Fatbat

It's certainly more minimal but it takes up the same amount of horizontal space as FB except it's left aligned so the whitespace seems greater to those on 24" or bigger monitors who surf with their browsers maximized.

Personally I like most of Google's new designs, they're certainly a great leap from where they've come from, all except the Analytics dashboard which I absolutely despise now. Talk about a failure in usability.

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CCarter

Google + is a social network, according to Google, Wikipedia, and everyone in the known online universe... You guys can spin failure anyway you want, it's still is failure...


Social networking service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Google+ (pronounced and sometimes written as Google Plus, sometimes abbreviated as G+) is a social networking and identity service,[2][3] operated by Google Inc."

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JCash

If somebody happens to edit it so it says "social networking and identity service for high end Google users" it wasn't me.

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Massive SERP drop across nearly all of my sites? that's what I been saying mangg, people aren't thinking about just how much this potentially helps Google scale their "SPAM" prevention and "nip it in the bud", from my post earlier:

I'm just wondering when they are gonna get rid of backlinks completely in terms of being a major ranking component/relevancy identifier. They have all kinds of data coming from different avenues now, but social still has major reliability issues IMO. It will be interesting to see how they progress...

I think Google+ while not the most successful "social" platform, is a HUGE win for them in terms of helping their algo/webspam team/etc combating garbage SERPs. I mentioned this several months ago when I was setting up all of my sites and connecting them, Google is making it VERY difficult to "fake" THIS type of SERP influence going forward.

What better way to combat internet marketers that build properties for profit (where the website itself IS the moneymaker, not necessarily the products/services/etc) than to make them gradually put their own identity on these properties and connect their identity with their past, present, and future properties.

By designing the whole G+ AuthorRank stuff in this manner and emphasizing: "Hey man, OWN YOUR CONTENT IF ITS GOOD LET US KNOW ABOUT IT AND WE'LL CONNECT THE VARIOUS DOTS BEFORE POTENTIALLY RANKING YOU ANYWHERE WORTHWHILE YAYYY GOOGLESPEAK", Google is putting another roadblock (that will probably grow larger and "More intelligent") in front of people that they believe are not helping their bottom line.

I should add to what I wrote above, the goal is to not see it as a roadblock, but as a new opportunity, which most of here are already aware of and currently doing with authority sites, using paid authors/rel author on our own sites etc...

But I see the whole G plus/authorship/OWN IT platform as another way for Google to weed out the "churn and burn MFA/warrior forum/click bank typical IM spammy aff crap" business mindset in the long run if implemented a certain way in the future...we'll see though.

So once again, Google's your grandmother. Respect her, show her you're an honest to goodness stand up dude, dress up for church on Sundays, and maybe she'll brag to the Internet about great her son is to the whole world etc...

rish3

Two insightful posts from Google Employees (and not just run-of-the-mill ones either) on why Google+ is a failure...

Why I left Google - JW on Tech - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

https://plus.google.com/112678702228...ts/eVeouesvaVX

ly2 from WF

But Guerilla said it's not a failure.

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ly2 from WF

Dude, if you have a Gmail account you have a G+ account. They may technically have 170m users. However, .00001% of those are active users.

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JCash

I think that 170mm represents actual high end google users. Everybody in India has like 100 gmail accounts, so that's like 100,000,000,000 gmail accounts, aka low end google users.

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ly2 from WF

No fucking way in shit is there 170m *active* users. The place is a fucking ghost town, and I'm pretty sure there are not 170m SEOs in the world.

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ly2 from WF

I don't buy likes because 99% of the fb accounts you get likes frrom have privacy turned on so Google can't see the like.

I do buy tweets and shares. And yes even G+'s from time to time. All three of those things come cheap and if they didn't, I wouldn't buy them as much. Because they are so cheap to buy it's sort of a "why not?" type of thing I do.

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JCash

Google might have 170mm employees and contractors. Everybody works for Milo.

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