Need to help my buddy out... he's going bankrupt :( - Page 2 - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

IceToEskimos · 06-23-2012, 12:38 AM

I was cold calling 25k businesses a month, but then the phone company slapped my phone lines down, and now I have to file for bankruptcy.

ly2 from WF · 06-23-2012, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

I'm amazed that your "friend" was able to make 25k a month with that skillset.

I'm amazed that despite making three hundred thousand dollars a year, he was still living in "the ghetto" and needed to use almost all of his savings in order to pick up a short-sale.

Generally, rent in the ghetto is well under 1k a month. Where did the other 24k go?

I find your story fascinating for all of the inflated numbers and sympathy plays in it, but in the end, it fails.

Maybe if you were able to write convincing content, your sites wouldn't have gotten murdered by Penguin?

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

I was cold calling 25k businesses a month, but then the phone company slapped my phone lines down, and now I have to file for bankruptcy.

lmao best post here.

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

I'm amazed that your "friend" was able to make 25k a month with that skillset.

I'm amazed that despite making three hundred thousand dollars a year, he was still living in "the ghetto" and needed to use almost all of his savings in order to pick up a short-sale.

Generally, rent in the ghetto is well under 1k a month. Where did the other 24k go?

I find your story fascinating for all of the inflated numbers and sympathy plays in it, but in the end, it fails.

Maybe if you were able to write convincing content, your sites wouldn't have gotten murdered by Penguin?

You tell me man... He didn't always make 25k/mo anyway... started out from nothing when I gave him one of my throwaway blogs I didn't have time to develop. Had no posts on it, no theme, and he built it over time with hard work and tried not to bother me with too many questions... though I always welcomed them... and I wish he had listened to me more when I told him to build more sites... he was like I dunno isn't that spammy? I was like that's survival and diversification....

I'm just trying to help out a friend in need. Just because you would abandon one of your good friends when he needs your help does not mean that I would do the same. So nope, I'm not lying. I'm diversified and in a position to spend some time helping a friend.

danke · 06-23-2012, 05:12 AM

Oh lord, how stupid are WE are to believe that HE isn't on this forum asking these questions?

LMAO

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by danke

Oh lord, how stupid are WE are to believe that HE isn't on this forum asking these questions?

LMAO

believe whatever you want, I'm just helping out a friend. I really hope he takes action on this because I think you guys have been really helpful in your suggestions.

webjedi · 06-23-2012, 05:32 AM

Pretty interesting indeed.
All I learned from this post is that I gotta pay more attention to Ly2 from WF.

Fatbat · 06-23-2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cardine

Client work. Have him do SEO for people he knows who have websites and charge $300-400/mo.

You don't see the irony in this suggestion?

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Originally Posted by 26115

He obviously does not know good sustainable SEO, yet all you assholes are telling him to do other peoples/clients SEO?

Laughable.

You beat me to it.

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Originally Posted by crossfittn

Yeah he went from 20-25k/mo to $4k/mo... right after he used almost all of his savings to get into house that was on forclosure...

So if he was making 25k a month and he spent most of savings buying a foreclosed house, I'm going to guess the house is paid for or he put a huge deposit on it and so his mortgage can't be that big. He can't live now on $4k a month?!

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Originally Posted by sumitdhawan

Hello friend,

While make $4,000 month consider poor for American I think it still enough money to no have go bankrupt. Just have spend money for cheap food, pay mortage, pay for electricity and water.

Should stop buy any items luxury and stop live good life. No do thing like buy every new iPhones or iPads that release for entire family or spend $100 almost every day on diner expensive at restaurant.

If friend make $25,000 month for many years then should have good money saved. If he use all money for buy mansion expensive then maybe should sell house. When sell mansion expensive will have lot cash.

If friend person smart I think eventual he come back and will make more money then before. Just use cash from sell house for live until he make good money again.

Good luck bro

Sumit delivers. Wisest words here I think.

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Originally Posted by crossfittn

believe whatever you want, I'm just helping out a friend. I really hope he takes action on this because I think you guys have been really helpful in your suggestions.

I can't understand why he's going bankrupt. He's making $4k a month. Even if the house isn't in fact paid for, he should still be able to pay up to a ridiculous $2-3k mortgage, his utilities, and put food on the table. Care to elaborate WHY he can't live on $4k a month?

smacker · 06-23-2012, 05:55 AM

Ffs calling the gullible!!

leelemons · 06-23-2012, 06:05 AM

I still don't understand why he has to declare bankruptcy when he's still making $4k a month. If he's from the ghetto then shouldn't he be used to getting around with $4k a month or less?

If he was making $25k a month for years then shouldn't he at least have a few hundred thousand saved up? Since he used all the money to buy up a foreclosure property then he doesn't have a mortage or rent to worry about.

Even if he paid $500k deposit on a million dollar home, the remaining monthly payments should still be less than $4k a month. Does he have 2 or more expense cars or something like a private yatch he has to make monthly payments on too?

LyteRyder · 06-23-2012, 06:40 AM

Really what did Penguin change that is causing all of these catastrophic drops?

Kiopa_Matt · 06-23-2012, 06:55 AM

I love how nobody in WF ever has any business related problems, and how we're such great people we're always trying to help our friends, cousins, brother-in-laws, whoever. Gives me a warm & fuzzy feeling inside.

As for advice? Start here: Free Online Course Materials | MIT OpenCourseWare

Go learn something useful, and obtain marketable skills.

blogginginc · 06-23-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cheshire

I have literally gone from being a millionaire to having over 4 million in debt in less than a year and some how I managed to pull my ass out of it without filing bankruptcy like a little bitch. The secret? Hustling my ass off. Not back to millionaire status yet, but I hustle every day to make it happen.

STOP. WHINING. GET. BACK. TO. WORK.

Did you ever post this story on WF or anywhere else?.

Dr_Ngo · 06-23-2012, 07:21 AM

He's still making $4k a month?

- Sell everything
- Move the family to a beachtown in Mexico and live on $1k a month. Tacos / beans / rice everyday. Ride around in bicycles.
- Tell him to step up his game / work his ass off
- Learn proper money management

Seriously where the fuck did the $25k a month go? Cocaine? Gambling? Hookers?

dodgy · 06-23-2012, 07:51 AM

Good Story Bro.....

Hate to be harsh but my first thoughts when I saw the post was, since when did this place turn into Warrior Forum......MODS please delete this fucking sob story ASAP!

Your_Pal · 06-23-2012, 08:23 AM

See this is the problem with American lifestyle. Pplz spend more than they earn and they go bankrupt the 2nd month before they were making 25K a mo.

I'm in India and I'm in IM since 2008. I have made money the hard way and still doing it the hard way. I can afford aircon and a good chair but still I work without it. It is time of summers and I live in desert and normal temperature here is of 42+ Degree Celsius every day. I can afford a luxury car and can buy it any time here in India and can showoff shit but no what I did is I have invested in property market here in India.

I have bought 3 properties in past 2 years. 2 apartment house and 1 land. I know I may sound moron but I never took any vacation in past 4 years but all I did is to stabilize myself.

Sorry to say but your friend was a moron by NOT saving money and spend it all like a king.

lose lose win · 06-23-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Your_Pal

Sorry to say but your friend was a moron by NOT saving money and spend it all like a king.

Yes, this has been established multiple times in this thread. You provided nothing of value and restated the obvious just to stroke your own online ego cock?

Your_Pal · 06-23-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lose lose win

Yes, this has been established multiple times in this thread. You provided nothing of value and restated the obvious just to stroke your own online ego cock?

So you have NO JOB other than comparing posts? Put some value yourself rather than bullshitting jackass.

What I have posted is based on facts. You jelly??

Rexibit · 06-23-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lose lose win

Yes, this has been established multiple times in this thread. You provided nothing of value and restated the obvious just to stroke your own online ego cock?

He's just wanting to be Your Pal, man. If you read between the lines, he's basically telling the guy to cut back on luxuries and get back to the basics.

If you're friend's bleeding, you don't pump him full of more blood in hope of stopping the gaping hole in his chest, you stop the bleeding first. Same concept financially.

lose lose win · 06-23-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Your_Pal

So you have NO JOB other than comparing posts? Put some value yourself rather than bullshitting jackass.

What I have posted is based on facts. You jelly??

Yep, it's a full time job spotting useless posts on WF. I pride myself on doing this job to the best of my abilities and will not be deterred by your meanie name calling.

Yes, what you said is based on facts... just like the other 5 people that said the same shit.

Fuck it, it isn't my thread nor friend.. here I'll join in and provide value equal to your fact based post.

Hey OP, your friend is a fucking retard for

A. not saving money while balling on 25k a month.
B. living in the fucking ghetto while making 25k a month and still has nothing to show for it
C. considering bankruptcy while making 4k a month
D. depending solely on Google for his monies
E. Needing you to motivate his ass to take care of his family when he has a decent skill set

That pretty much sums it up... glad I could help.

cheshire · 06-23-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blogginginc

Did you ever post this story on WF or anywhere else?.

The only other person that knows this is my accountant. Just trying to prove a point. When you focus on what you lost you'll never get back ahead. Drop it like a bad habit and focus on the future, not the past. Don't cry over spilled milk.

Besides a 301 redirect to a new domain should get him like 70% of his income back which he can then invest into new sites like he should've been doing from the beginning.

NetMillion · 06-23-2012, 01:10 PM

tell him to get a job painting cars for an immediate income and start developing new skills on the side that don't revolve around search engines as the main source of revenue.

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 03:50 PM

He only made $25k/month for 3-4 months. The rest of the time before that it was a lot less as far as I remember. Right now, he's got his credit cards almost maxxed out, just bought a new car with a small down payment, owes 400k on his house (got a bigggg house dayum makes my townhouse look like a toy), and was buying links from IAcquire who charged a shitload,... but when his earnings went down he didn't know whether to keep the links or not since if you dump good links that is unnatural/kills link velocity too... negative link velocity is never good ha...

anyway that's the most detail I know of the story as I haven't exactly drilled him about what all bills he has... he has told me though that his real-world bills and SEO/backlinks expenses add up to about $14k/mo. Pretty crazy. My expenses are around 20k/month but most of that is SEO.

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Originally Posted by Fatbat

I can't understand why he's going bankrupt. He's making $4k a month. Even if the house isn't in fact paid for, he should still be able to pay up to a ridiculous $2-3k mortgage, his utilities, and put food on the table. Care to elaborate WHY he can't live on $4k a month?

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Your_Pal

See this is the problem with American lifestyle. Pplz spend more than they earn and they go bankrupt the 2nd month before they were making 25K a mo.

I'm in India and I'm in IM since 2008. I have made money the hard way and still doing it the hard way. I can afford aircon and a good chair but still I work without it. It is time of summers and I live in desert and normal temperature here is of 42+ Degree Celsius every day. I can afford a luxury car and can buy it any time here in India and can showoff shit but no what I did is I have invested in property market here in India.

I have bought 3 properties in past 2 years. 2 apartment house and 1 land. I know I may sound moron but I never took any vacation in past 4 years but all I did is to stabilize myself.

Sorry to say but your friend was a moron by NOT saving money and spend it all like a king.

You my friend are a badass. Thanks for sharing.

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 03:56 PM

Anyway guys, he started calling yellow pages today. He's a pretty good designer but never realized he could sell that so at least I hope he closes some design deals.

I got a lot of PMs from guys here who are well known respected members who have been killed/hurt by Google updates recently. Sucks!!! But shit happens... the smart guys among us will recover stronger and diversify even more.

KeepSuth · 06-23-2012, 04:15 PM

Does he have any local contacts?

Prospect,

also if he does some research try to find a local company thats already ranked in google, maybe page 2 or 3.

Offer them a pay on results, get them to the front page of google.

They'll get more traffic, be happier and then ask them for referrals.

Then goto the businesses around that business that he helped. and offer his services, using other said business as an example/

another way to spin in it: Get some postcards made. Put said business that he helpeed rank and say This business ______ name of business here____ is now ranked at the top of google, they are bringing in twice the amount of leads and customers as before. then blah blah, get them to contact you, sell them. close. profit. (Much easier said than done though)

Uptime · 06-23-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ANOMOANON

Ive had some luck with building niche sites for serviceprovidedcitynameorarea.coms getting them ranked and leasing them month to month to businesses in that area. Its not killer money and take a little time to get ranked/stable, but labor type services (cleaners,plumbers) in cities/towns are pretty are pretty easy targets

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Originally Posted by pinchyfingers

I had the idea of doing exactly that for attorneys, but after ranking one site talked myself out of the idea. I think blue collar business would be a better target.

I like the blue collar for lead gen. Especially the emergency types. Plumbers, heating and cooling. When they call it's usually an urgent conversion. Also found to be an easy sell to local businesses. Lawn care, deck builders even attorneys and plastic surgeons the lead is more research oriented. A higher LTV frequently did not = a higher roi from my experience.

charlesmartel · 06-23-2012, 06:06 PM

Send him a copy of this book (Tightwad Gazette):

Amazon

amateursurgeon · 06-23-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crossfittn

He only made $25k/month for 3-4 months. The rest of the time before that it was a lot less as far as I remember. Right now, he's got his credit cards almost maxxed out, just bought a new car with a small down payment, owes 400k on his house (got a bigggg house dayum makes my townhouse look like a toy), and was buying links from IAcquire who charged a shitload,... but when his earnings went down he didn't know whether to keep the links or not since if you dump good links that is unnatural/kills link velocity too... negative link velocity is never good ha...

anyway that's the most detail I know of the story as I haven't exactly drilled him about what all bills he has... he has told me though that his real-world bills and SEO/backlinks expenses add up to about $14k/mo. Pretty crazy. My expenses are around 20k/month but most of that is SEO.

There's an old adage that keeping money is a lot harder than making it. You friend appears to prove this adage true.

I've noticed Asians are a lot better than Westerners in this respect. My (Indian) wife has more than doubled her salary since I've known her, but her outgoings have gone up by about 20-30%, and that includes having a kid. The first time I made some decent coin (a long time ago back in my early 20s), I promptly blew it and ended up in debt. I'm glad I learned that lesson early on, so as not to repeat the mistake.

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepSuth

Does he have any local contacts?

Prospect,

also if he does some research try to find a local company thats already ranked in google, maybe page 2 or 3.

Offer them a pay on results, get them to the front page of google.

They'll get more traffic, be happier and then ask them for referrals.

Then goto the businesses around that business that he helped. and offer his services, using other said business as an example/

another way to spin in it: Get some postcards made. Put said business that he helpeed rank and say This business ______ name of business here____ is now ranked at the top of google, they are bringing in twice the amount of leads and customers as before. then blah blah, get them to contact you, sell them. close. profit. (Much easier said than done though)

I'm pretty sure he doesn't, but his uncle might. Problem is his uncle is known for kinda trying to scam him under a mask of trying to help. LOL

I'm sending your post to him (he's not a member here). I'm sure he'll appreciate it a lot. Thanks for the thought! I think it's a little advanced for now though... dude needs to blow up that phone.

crossfittn · 06-23-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by amateursurgeon

There's an old adage that keeping money is a lot harder than making it. You friend appears to prove this adage true.

I've noticed Asians are a lot better than Westerners in this respect. My (Indian) wife has more than doubled her salary since I've known her, but her outgoings have gone up by about 20-30%, and that includes having a kid. The first time I made some decent coin (a long time ago back in my early 20s), I promptly blew it and ended up in debt. I'm glad I learned that lesson early on, so as not to repeat the mistake.

Oh yeah, been there. When I first had success I just kept buying badass cars! Then I had to sell an old fb ads account in order to pay my income tax on time, and I was like wtf is my problem... so i got shit together and it's different these days. I'm just lucky I didn't have to get rid of any of my toys... got enough for a while and am focusing on saving while also building my SAAS business. (FUN as hell by the way, talking with real people who are my customers, who I want to help, who love my product or dislike it but give great feedback, etc... so fulfilling!)

Yes, asians are typically better about saving money... There's always that Korean family in every rich neighborhood who bought his house cash after he moved from Korea hahahaa....

IceToEskimos · 06-30-2012, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crossfittn

Oh yeah, been there. When I first had success I just kept buying badass cars! Then I had to sell an old fb ads account in order to pay my income tax on time, and I was like wtf is my problem... so i got shit together and it's different these days. I'm just lucky I didn't have to get rid of any of my toys... got enough for a while and am focusing on saving while also building my SAAS business. (FUN as hell by the way, talking with real people who are my customers, who I want to help, who love my product or dislike it but give great feedback, etc... so fulfilling!)

Yes, asians are typically better about saving money... There's always that Korean family in every rich neighborhood who bought his house cash after he moved from Korea hahahaa....

If your friend is still having trouble with money, I will buy his family from him for 500 American dollars.

I will need to see photographs before I wire the money.

lose lose win · 06-30-2012, 11:48 AM

^^ Lol, it take you a week to come up with that one? You're usually quicker on the draw than that.

I am disappoint son.

IceToEskimos · 06-30-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lose lose win

^^ Lol, it take you a week to come up with that one? You're usually quicker on the draw than that.

I am disappoint son.

I waited a bit to let the desperation of his situation settle into his bones.

This isn't my first rodeo.

I've been flipping families since 2006.

barman · 06-30-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crossfittn

He only made $25k/month for 3-4 months. The rest of the time before that it was a lot less as far as I remember. Right now, he's got his credit cards almost maxxed out, just bought a new car with a small down payment, owes 400k on his house (got a bigggg house dayum makes my townhouse look like a toy),

Well, that there is your problem. People go broke cause they buy shit with potential earnings, not their actual savings. WHAT A DAMNED FOOL.

Americans suck ass at personal finance

crossfittn · 06-30-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

I've been flipping families since 2006.

patiently waiting for new marketplace from ITE

crossfittn · 06-30-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by barman

Americans suck ass at personal finance

Yeah, 100% spot on. Remember I said he moved into a house that was in forclosure too wowww

casinobonus24 · 06-30-2012, 12:39 PM

So you still help Deshea although he scammed the fuck out of this forum (onthewayup) ?

casinobonus24 · 06-30-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Your_Pal

I'm in India and I'm in IM since 2008. I have made money the hard way and still doing it the hard way. I can afford aircon and a good chair but still I work without it.

I have bought 3 properties in past 2 years. 2 apartment house and 1 land

Sooooooooo..... you were able to purchase 3 properties but can't afford an aircondition or a better chair ?

Sounds good... must be ballin...

crossfittn · 06-30-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by casinobonus24

So you still help Deshea although he scammed the fuck out of this forum (onthewayup) ?

Nope, don't recall helping that guy either. His services never did anything for my sites, and he scammed the fuck out of another friend of mine too.

What did Deshea do btw? I had dropped talking with him long before I heard about him scamming everyone. Wasn't it some bs he started involving him and nanexo?

crossfittn · 06-30-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by casinobonus24

Sooooooooo..... you were able to purchase 3 properties but can't afford an aircondition or a better chair ?

Sounds good... must be ballin...

Welcome to a casino bonus

Beach Affiliate · 06-30-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

I was cold calling 25k businesses a month, but then the phone company slapped my phone lines down, and now I have to file for bankruptcy.

This man speaks truth. Used to call my business three times a week. Nothing but heavy breathing and smacking sounds could be heard. Had to make the receptionist sit on a stack of towels because he kept her so wet.

BlokBlok · 06-30-2012, 01:12 PM

Relying on only SEO for your business is fucking asinine.

tygoldberg · 06-30-2012, 02:59 PM

Whenever I see your name i think of this:

seolinker · 07-04-2012, 03:39 AM

Your Pal, you need better chair + aircon

Your_Pal · 07-11-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by casinobonus24

Sooooooooo..... you were able to purchase 3 properties but can't afford an aircondition or a better chair ?

Sounds good... must be ballin...

See I DO NOT need a certificate from clowns like you to showoff if I'm ballin. I didn't say I can't afford a good chair or an aircon. If you read between the lines what I have posted you wouldn't be posting such a foolish post.

Further I don't care if you believe or NO as I don't care what you believe. I know what I'm and I don't need you to certify it.. I had posted what is truth now its up to your mind what you think.. as ultimately your mind is responsible what you are today.

Mugshot · 07-11-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

I'm amazed that your "friend" was able to make 25k a month with that skillset.

why is that surprising? I was making roughly the same amount with adsense through my seo websites.

seolinker · 07-11-2012, 02:28 PM

^
really ? please tell me more

cardine · 07-11-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatbat

You don't see the irony in this suggestion?

Unfortunately, being good at SEO has nothing to do with being able to sell SEO.

pixelo · 07-11-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Your_Pal

See I DO NOT need a certificate from clowns like you to showoff if I'm ballin. I didn't say I can't afford a good chair or an aircon. If you read between the lines what I have posted you wouldn't be posting such a foolish post.

Further I don't care if you believe or NO as I don't care what you believe. I know what I'm and I don't need you to certify it.. I had posted what is truth now its up to your mind what you think.. as ultimately your mind is responsible what you are today.

Man you sound like you've made some good choices. Personally don't skimp on what I view as essentials for getting the job done, I.e, good chair, top of the range laptop and phone, but in terms of luxuries and living situation your philosophy is very sound.

Save all you can, I don't think any of us here are doing millions a month or even a year, more like 10k to 20k a month for the successful people. It's enough to make an idiot think they are rich, but if it disappears tomorrow and you've spent it all...shit.

I was just talking to a lead gen guy today who ran a local lead gen biz for 3 years, entirely based on seo, it died with penguin and he went from 20k to 500 a month.

Build real businesses, playing around with free google traffic isnt secure or a real business IMO.

06-23-2012, 05:32 AM	#57 (permalink)
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06-23-2012, 06:05 AM	#60 (permalink)
leelemons Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 65 iTrader: 4 / 100%	I still don't understand why he has to declare bankruptcy when he's still making $4k a month. If he's from the ghetto then shouldn't he be used to getting around with $4k a month or less? If he was making $25k a month for years then shouldn't he at least have a few hundred thousand saved up? Since he used all the money to buy up a foreclosure property then he doesn't have a mortage or rent to worry about. Even if he paid $500k deposit on a million dollar home, the remaining monthly payments should still be less than $4k a month. Does he have 2 or more expense cars or something like a private yatch he has to make monthly payments on too? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Kiopa_Matt Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2,784 iTrader: 6 / 100%	I love how nobody in WF ever has any business related problems, and how we're such great people we're always trying to help our friends, cousins, brother-in-laws, whoever. Gives me a warm & fuzzy feeling inside. As for advice? Start here: Free Online Course Materials \| MIT OpenCourseWare Go learn something useful, and obtain marketable skills. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Dr_Ngo The MVP of PPC Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 873 iTrader: 0 / 0%	He's still making $4k a month? - Sell everything - Move the family to a beachtown in Mexico and live on $1k a month. Tacos / beans / rice everyday. Ride around in bicycles. - Tell him to step up his game / work his ass off - Learn proper money management Seriously where the fuck did the $25k a month go? Cocaine? Gambling? Hookers? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter g1c9, crossfittn, blogginginc and 1 others like this. __________________ Twitter Blog

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dodgy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 736 iTrader: 17 / 100%	Good Story Bro..... Hate to be harsh but my first thoughts when I saw the post was, since when did this place turn into Warrior Forum......MODS please delete this fucking sob story ASAP! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-23-2012, 08:23 AM	#66 (permalink)
Your_Pal कर्मण्येवाधिकारस्ते Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,096 iTrader: 93 / 99%	See this is the problem with American lifestyle. Pplz spend more than they earn and they go bankrupt the 2nd month before they were making 25K a mo. I'm in India and I'm in IM since 2008. I have made money the hard way and still doing it the hard way. I can afford aircon and a good chair but still I work without it. It is time of summers and I live in desert and normal temperature here is of 42+ Degree Celsius every day. I can afford a luxury car and can buy it any time here in India and can showoff shit but no what I did is I have invested in property market here in India. I have bought 3 properties in past 2 years. 2 apartment house and 1 land. I know I may sound moron but I never took any vacation in past 4 years but all I did is to stabilize myself. Sorry to say but your friend was a moron by NOT saving money and spend it all like a king. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter g1c9, charlesmartel, crossfittn and 10 others like this. __________________ Get Google Plus One - Facebook Fans - Twitter Tweets - Pins/Re-Pins - Google Places Reviews. Local Citations Dominate Social Media NOW!! Need Bulk Accounts? Pinterest - YouTube PVA - Gmail PVA - Hotmail - Yahoo - AOL - HushMail !

06-23-2012, 01:10 PM	#72 (permalink)
NetMillion Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 309 iTrader: 0 / 0%	tell him to get a job painting cars for an immediate income and start developing new skills on the side that don't revolve around search engines as the main source of revenue. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-23-2012, 03:56 PM	#75 (permalink)
crossfittn Afro Blue Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,081 iTrader: 11 / 100%	Anyway guys, he started calling yellow pages today. He's a pretty good designer but never realized he could sell that so at least I hope he closes some design deals. I got a lot of PMs from guys here who are well known respected members who have been killed/hurt by Google updates recently. Sucks!!! But shit happens... the smart guys among us will recover stronger and diversify even more. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Yeah.

06-23-2012, 04:15 PM	#76 (permalink)
KeepSuth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: California Posts: 168 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Does he have any local contacts? Prospect, also if he does some research try to find a local company thats already ranked in google, maybe page 2 or 3. Offer them a pay on results, get them to the front page of google. They'll get more traffic, be happier and then ask them for referrals. Then goto the businesses around that business that he helped. and offer his services, using other said business as an example/ another way to spin in it: Get some postcards made. Put said business that he helpeed rank and say This business ______ name of business here____ is now ranked at the top of google, they are bringing in twice the amount of leads and customers as before. then blah blah, get them to contact you, sell them. close. profit. (Much easier said than done though) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-23-2012, 06:06 PM	#78 (permalink)
charlesmartel Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tierra del Fuego Posts: 1,234 iTrader: 16 / 100%	Send him a copy of this book (Tightwad Gazette): Amazon.com: The Complete Tightwad Gazette (9780375752254): Amy Dacyczyn: Books Amazon Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter crossfittn likes this.

06-30-2012, 12:39 PM	#88 (permalink)
casinobonus24 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 862 iTrader: 83 / 100%	So you still help Deshea although he scammed the fuck out of this forum (onthewayup) ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-30-2012, 01:12 PM	#93 (permalink)
BlokBlok ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,921 iTrader: 11 / 82%	Relying on only SEO for your business is fucking asinine. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Beach Affiliate likes this. __________________

07-04-2012, 03:39 AM	#95 (permalink)
seolinker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Odessa, Ukraine / US LLC as well Posts: 1,950 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Your Pal, you need better chair + aircon Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-11-2012, 02:28 PM	#98 (permalink)
seolinker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Odessa, Ukraine / US LLC as well Posts: 1,950 iTrader: 0 / 0%	^ really ? please tell me more Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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