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pewep · 07-16-2012, 12:37 PM

mattseh · 07-16-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamache

Were the relationships earlier in that persons life that led to his/her success, set up on a mutual agreement that they're to give away a portion of their money? Was a contract ever written and agreed to by both parties?

If not, it's not a voluntary relationship and instead it's theft.

You seem to have given implicit consent. If you disagree with the "social contract", are you doing anything to withdraw / cease to cooperate with its institutions, therefore denying implicit consent?

cardine · 07-16-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeStratham

Let me play the devil's advocate and ask you folks a serious question...

Suppose a person believes your success is due, in large part, to him or her and the rest of "society." In other words, because you could not have become successful without other people, you owe your success - and by extension, much of your wealth - to them.

How would you persuade that person that such reasoning is misguided? How would you convince that person that your success and wealth should be yours and yours alone?

Here is the reason I ask:

The greater the disparity between the haves and have-nots, and the more desperate the latter group becomes, the more easily the state can compel them to support state-sponsored expropriation of your property. It is becoming increasingly important that you are able to state your position in as compelling a manner as possible. Given this, how would you combat this movement through persuasion? What would be your first, and most persuasive, argument?

Everything I've ever received was bought and paid for. In the cases that I didn't buy it myself, it was my parents, but they are the only people I owe anything to.

Roads? My access of roads growing up was paid for by my parents. School? Same thing. It was all voluntary (or in the case of the government, involuntary transactions).

In the end my parents are the only people I owe anything to and they willingly gave all of that without wanting or expecting credit in return. And they certainly don't proclaim in front of large audiences how I am not responsible for all of the things I've done for social points.

The government is forcing you to enter a transaction (tax money in return for those "public services") and then taking credit for everything you ever do with what you "purchased" from them.

I don't hear Nike saying "we are responsible for olympic runners".

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Originally Posted by mattseh

You seem to have given implicit consent. If you disagree with the "social contract", are you doing anything to withdraw / cease to cooperate with its institutions, therefore denying implicit consent?

The US government doesn't let you withdraw from those "contracts" and it is impractical to assume that I even had a choice until I was 18.

hakkairu · 07-16-2012, 01:33 PM

Fox & Friends Deceptively Edits Obama's Comments On Small Business | Blog | Media Matters for America

this thread was a success to prove peoples ignorance.

and LOL at people using Fox as a viable news source

Crynos · 07-16-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hakkairu

Fox & Friends Deceptively Edits Obama's Comments On Small Business | Blog | Media Matters for America

this thread was a success to prove peoples ignorance.

and LOL at people using Fox as a viable news source

If you notice, I pointed this out early in the thread, however, it only makes his statement marginally less disgusting, and it still remains a very fucked up thing to say.

Gertex · 07-16-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hakkairu

Fox & Friends Deceptively Edits Obama's Comments On Small Business | Blog | Media Matters for America

this thread was a success to prove peoples ignorance.

and LOL at people using Fox as a viable news source

I apologize, but editing it down doesn't really change ANYTHING except maybe make him MORE ignorant!

A lot of smart people work hard. Yup. But yet they don't build businesses.

And who is to blame for them not doing it or inactivity or failure? The folks that own/build businesses?

Government research created the internet so all these companies could make more money of it? I call bullshit. It was a defense project for the protection of this nation that created the Internet. The original intent was never for people to make money of it. That came later.

Government created the middle class?

FYI - not only FOX was reporting this ... it lead headlines all over news agencies...

LBorbit · 07-16-2012, 02:45 PM

Sure they edited it down to make him sound more ignorant. But it wasn't taken out of context. He is arguing a collectivist approach to society, one I think a lot of people disagree with, particularly here.

IceToEskimos · 07-16-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LBorbit

Sure they edited it down to make him sound more ignorant. But it wasn't taken out of context. He is arguing a collectivist approach to society, one I think a lot of people disagree with, particularly here.

The collectivist/Marxist approach is always effective, and will always be effective because there will always be more have nots than there are haves.

I find it interesting to see someone from a minority group work so diligently to deprive individuals belonging to another minority group of their property, income, and rights.

guerilla · 07-16-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lose lose win

That speech scares the ever living fuck out of me... and even more so... the crowd applause. Fuck man, I really feel like I know exactly where I'm standing in this specific timeline of history and it's surreal, scary, and invigorating all at the same time.

Now you know how I have felt for years.

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Originally Posted by infoslob

Re-election is doubtful.

His re-election is a slam dunk. Romney is going to get destroyed.

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Originally Posted by JakeStratham

Given this, how would you combat this movement through persuasion? What would be your first, and most persuasive, argument?

You can't. Ayn Rand wrote about this. The masses only understand when it becomes an obvious failure. As long as people hold any belief in the status quo or the way they have been educated, it is impossible to break that belief without a crisis that touches them and everyone around them in a really profound manner.

Simply put, people (at large) don't learn until it hurts. In this case, for the dependent class, that is when it is in their self-interest to switch allegiances, such as when the money becomes worthless or the state can no longer provide loot from the market.

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Originally Posted by mattseh

You seem to have given implicit consent. If you disagree with the "social contract", are you doing anything to withdraw / cease to cooperate with its institutions, therefore denying implicit consent?

Contracts don't work that way. You should really think this stuff through before you post it. It's obviously fallacious and dangerous.

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Originally Posted by cardine

The government is forcing you to enter a transaction (tax money in return for those "public services") and then taking credit for everything you ever do with what you "purchased" from them.

Indeed, this is the root of the issue. People have been educated to believe that government produces something.

Government must confiscate from private individuals in order to provide anything. Yes, the USG invented the internet, with resources it confiscated from private individuals. It's sort of like a mugger giving you half of your money back and telling you it is a gift from him to you.

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Originally Posted by cardine

The US government doesn't let you withdraw from those "contracts" and it is impractical to assume that I even had a choice until I was 18.

Even the 18 year old limit is something arbitrary and which you had no say in.

nickCR · 07-16-2012, 03:03 PM

I don't build businesses, I build empires. I am sure glad that I'm not american. I'd be one embarrassed citizen right now as the PRESIDENT just clearly told the world that you are all his bitches..

sumitdhawan · 07-16-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ly2 from WF

President Obama: "If You've Got A Business - You Didn't Build That. Somebody Else Made That Happen"

Hello friend,

You afraid black Obama will take away you adsense sites because you didn't build it?

Good luck bro

Ishmael · 07-16-2012, 04:06 PM

Welcome to 1984!

MediaBuysEyez · 07-16-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by guerilla

His re-election is a slam dunk. Romney is going to get destroyed.

Explain. I think enough people will make the connection between the current financial state of affairs in the economy and Barry Hussein Obama. Maybe my faith in people's common sense is overstated?

IceToEskimos · 07-16-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaBuysEyez

my faith in people's common sense is overstated

ftfy.

guerilla · 07-16-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaBuysEyez

Explain. I think enough people will make the connection between the current financial state of affairs in the economy and Barry Hussein Obama.

The economy isn't Obama's fault.The economy is the American people's fault. They have built up and support a government that destroys capital through taxation, regulation and debt.

The American government will improve when the American people improve. No super hero politician will be able to change what the majority of Americans endorse, which is why RP never stood a chance. His view is a minority view.

I think that because there are so many Americans, the future of America looks a lot like the end of the USSR. I can see things fragmenting into smaller regions, which are easier to control and improve politically.

mituozo · 07-16-2012, 07:34 PM

One day my Acai berry landers will bring me in enough monies for me to buy my own country. A country where I can be dictator, and get shitfaced at various UN meetings.

IceToEskimos · 07-16-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by guerilla

I think that because there are so many Americans, the future of America looks a lot like the end of the USSR. I can see things fragmenting into smaller regions, which are easier to control and improve politically.

Ironically, prior to Hamilton and the rest of the federalists, this was sort of the original idea.

Moxie · 07-16-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaBuysEyez

I think enough people will make the connection between the current financial state of affairs in the economy and Barry Hussein Obama.

NEW POLL: More Americans Still Blame Bush For Lousy Economy Than Obama - Business Insider

MediaBuysEyez · 07-16-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Moxie

NEW POLL: More Americans Still Blame Bush For Lousy Economy Than Obama - Business Insider

Ahhh - looks like my faith in people is misplaced...

barman · 07-16-2012, 08:05 PM

Al Gore invented the internet so send him a check for 50% of your profits.

Redshield · 07-16-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by guerilla

His re-election is a slam dunk. Romney is going to get destroyed.

Romney has already been selected. Look at who Obama's top contributors were in 2008 when he was selected, now look at where they are putting their money. That is no coincidence.

Americans are focused on health care and your stagnant economy, but that's not why we have selected Willard. You will see by March why he was installed as your leader.

guerilla · 07-16-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Redshield

Americans are focused on health care and your stagnant economy, but that's not why we have selected Willard. You will see by March why he was installed as your leader.

I'm not an American. Politics is for idiots.

MediaBuysEyez · 07-16-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redshield

...but that's not why we have selected Willard. You will see by March why he was installed as your leader.

I'll freely admit that I don't get what you're saying here. Did I just get trolled?

guerilla · 07-16-2012, 08:40 PM

He's implying that the Israelis have selected Mitt in order to have a war with Iran.

lukep · 07-16-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeStratham

The greater the disparity between the haves and have-nots, and the more desperate the latter group becomes, the more easily the state can compel them to support state-sponsored expropriation of your property. It is becoming increasingly important that you are able to state your position in as compelling a manner as possible. Given this, how would you combat this movement through persuasion? What would be your first, and most persuasive, argument?

You need a starting place to agree on before you start trying to show them how communism is bad.

I like this one:

From there, assuming they can see that the government is not keeping things fair, you can work on their particular weaknesses until you've widened it enough to point to Obomba's similar policies.

To Really school a fool like Pewep though, you'd have to show him how the whole system works, not just some contradictory soundbytes like the Keynesian ones he got growing up.

lukep · 07-16-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redshield

Romney has already been selected. Look at who Obama's top contributors were in 2008 when he was selected, now look at where they are putting their money. That is no coincidence.

The ones giving even MORE money to obomba this year you mean?

/Trollfail.

tangy · 07-17-2012, 12:56 AM

I don't follow US politics all that much but I find it pretty interesting how polarized you folks are about the entire thing.

Is it just that the percentage of people capable of comprehending what is going on is significantly less than those who think either option is a good one? Or are most Americans resigned to just deal with whatever comes?

dreamache · 07-17-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tangy

Is it just that the percentage of people capable of comprehending what is going on is significantly less than those who think either option is a good one? Or are most Americans resigned to just deal with whatever comes?

The former. MSM has mind control down to a tee.

Delta223 · 07-17-2012, 01:47 AM

He's right--I didn't build my business; my lawyer filed the papers on my behalf! I can't believe you guys didn't get what he was trying to imply

Kaedus · 07-17-2012, 01:59 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX1YVzdnpEc

JohnCJackson · 07-17-2012, 03:58 AM

Depends on what "business" we are talking about here. I'll put my free-market (notice I didn't say crony capitalist) credentials up against anyone, but "business" does not equal "good" automatically in the way that "government"="bad." The worst is the worst of both worlds- big govt and big biz in cahoots. "Conservatives" have this conditioned response to suck the cock of business in the same way certain liberals do the Govt/Welfare State, and more often than not both embrace state violence over liberty.

ly2 from WF · 07-17-2012, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnCJackson

Depends on what "business" we are talking about here. I'll put my free-market (notice I didn't say crony capitalist) credentials up against anyone, but "business" does not equal "good" automatically in the way that "government"="bad." The worst is the worst of both worlds- big govt and big biz in cahoots. "Conservatives" have this conditioned response to suck the cock of business in the same way certain liberals do the Govt/Welfare State, and more often than not both embrace state violence over liberty.

IF YOU DONT MIND WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A PLEASANT CIRCLE JERK SO KNOCK IT OFF

ThisWebThing · 07-17-2012, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

Welcome to 1984!

Our Dear Leader NoJoba Obama says: Freedom is Slavery

America: Welcome to Room 101

Djshorty89 · 07-17-2012, 05:10 AM

I understand that government is an unnecessary parasite that feeds itself through theft. But what I don't understand is how that could be changed through anarchy. Isn't there always going to be a group or tribe that sits at the top of the totem pole and takes what belongs to others through force?

Human beings like to form gangs and cliques in order to secure more resources for themselves. The power vacuum in anarchy would have to be filled by some group, wouldn't it? Isn't that how government forms in the first place?

|<ick Bac|< · 07-17-2012, 05:23 AM

If you got a girlfriend, you didnt f**k that! you needed help, some one along the way at some time f**ked her for you.

If you got a dick, you didnt fap that! you needed help, some one along the way at some time fapped it for you.

ly2 from WF · 07-17-2012, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Djshorty89

I understand that government is an unnecessary parasite that feeds itself through theft. But what I don't understand is how that could be changed through anarchy. Isn't there always going to be a group or tribe that sits at the top of the totem pole and takes what belongs to others through force?

Human beings like to form gangs and cliques in order to secure more resources for themselves. The power vacuum in anarchy would have to be filled by some group, wouldn't it? Isn't that how government forms in the first place?

IN B4 Guerilla

mattseh · 07-17-2012, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Djshorty89

I understand that government is an unnecessary parasite that feeds itself through theft. But what I don't understand is how that could be changed through anarchy. Isn't there always going to be a group or tribe that sits at the top of the totem pole and takes what belongs to others through force?

Human beings like to form gangs and cliques in order to secure more resources for themselves. The power vacuum in anarchy would have to be filled by some group, wouldn't it? Isn't that how government forms in the first place?

No because peace and love and denying the human condition and history.

IceToEskimos · 07-17-2012, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Djshorty89

I understand that government is an unnecessary parasite that feeds itself through theft. But what I don't understand is how that could be changed through anarchy. Isn't there always going to be a group or tribe that sits at the top of the totem pole and takes what belongs to others through force?

Human beings like to form gangs and cliques in order to secure more resources for themselves. The power vacuum in anarchy would have to be filled by some group, wouldn't it? Isn't that how government forms in the first place?

here ya go, my good deed for the day since 10mg of melatonin can't keep me asleep...

http://daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf

Djshorty89 · 07-17-2012, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

here ya go, my good deed for the day since 10mg of melatonin can't keep me asleep...

http://daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf

Thanks, will start reading now. If Melatonin ain't working for ya, try taking a freezing cold shower for 5 mins (and by freezing I mean you should scream like a little girl).

IceToEskimos · 07-17-2012, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Djshorty89

Thanks, will start reading now. If Melatonin ain't working for ya, try taking a freezing cold shower for 5 mins (and by freezing I mean you should scream like a little girl).

Going to try this now.

I'll be thinking of you the entire time.

mattseh · 07-17-2012, 06:43 AM

Thanks Ice, this is really good so far.

IceToEskimos · 07-17-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mattseh

Thanks Ice, this is really good so far.

"The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and great nations."

mattseh · 07-17-2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

"The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and great nations."

well, and private individuals who steal. two wrongs don't make a right though.

IceToEskimos · 07-17-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mattseh

well, and private individuals who steal. two wrongs don't make a right though.

agreed.

I was just pointing out that Friedman's work isn't without it's share of lulzy moments for anyone who fears a dry academic work.

mattseh · 07-17-2012, 08:41 AM

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IceToEskimos · 07-17-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mattseh

allfacepalmsever.gif

I'm not sure what you are saying, mattseh.

threehundred · 07-17-2012, 08:59 AM

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A lot of smart people work hard. Yup. But yet they don't build businesses.

Some of the smartest people I know are also some of the laziest pieces of shit that I've ever met.

Everyone today is "entitled". I know countless people that are constantly talking about things that the Jones' have. They think they deserve these things as well. However, they never comment about the hard work or risks the Jones' have taken to get to where they are.

The roads and internet are available to everyone. Why does everyone not have their own successful business? Most of the work is already done for you, with the roads, bridges and internet already being taken care of. And its the government that so graciously GIVES us those roads, bridges and internets (definitely not our tax dollars).

Thank you, America, for making me successful! I owe it all to you and I deserve no credit. Thanks again!

DewChugr · 07-17-2012, 09:03 AM

mattseh · 07-17-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IceToEskimos

I'm not sure what you are saying, mattseh.

communism is stupid

IceToEskimos · 07-17-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mattseh

communism is stupid

yes, but it's appeal to the downtrodden is eternal.

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