wickedDUDE

My traffic dropped almost 50% at the end of April.... still no signs of recovery.

inb4 you need unique content blah blah (already have that)

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ayzo

Penguin is about links, you have "bad" links pointing at your site so the only way to resolve it is by removing those links or starting over on a new site and avoiding building those "bad" links again. Some have had luck with 301 redirects so maybe give that a shot.

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wickedDUDE

The thing is I never paid for any links... being 100% honest.

How would I go about determining which ones are bad?

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bharte

If you have a warning in google webmaster tools it's about bad links. No warning means it's an over optimisation penalty....keep building links but with a diverse anchor text and your site will recover.

flx89

Penguin it's not about content, it's all about keyword diversity. If you have a very bad kw diversity, try to remove some previous links, and build some new with different anchor texts

loopline

As Bharte says, it is NOT about bad links, unless you got a google webmaster tools penalty. Even then there are options, you don't have to start over or remove links.

If you didn't get the email, then you just have too heavy of a anchor text density and/or aren't linking to inner pages, stuff like that. There is plenty of good info out there, just google it, I won't repeat it all.

But in short you need to water down your link diversity. I have talked to tons of people that recovered and/or did better after penguin. I work with a lot of clients and we took some hits cause we were too tight on our anchors. We watered down and all of our clients recovered.

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wickedDUDE

Thanks for the responses. I just signed up for webmaster tools, so I'm waiting for the link data to populate.

Any tips on building links? So far I've only relied on natural links....

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EvilPenguin

TO ALL THE POSTERS ABOVE ME:

i'm deeply annoyed, upset and mad. U know why?

OP did not ask "Hai gais Im a noob can u explain penguin for me plz kthx".

He asked IF ANYBODY RECOVERED FROM PENGUIN YET, so stop telling him what penguin is or is not about. That's not the point of the thread.

It's been months and we all know what Penguin is about by now because we all read shitloads of articles on search engine land, seobook, search engine watch, seomoz, microsite masters, search engine journal, matt cutts blog, google inside search, google search quality blog, google's official blog, search engine roundtable, search engine guide, search engine people, wickedfire, traffic planet, warriorforum and more!

I know penguin more than I know my mother for fucks sakes... so STOP WITH YOUR PENGUIN 101 and let's get to the core of the thread: HAS ANYONE RECOVERED FROM PENGUIN YET? If yes, let's hear what you did (or did not do) to recover... but for the love of everything that's gay, stop telling us what we already know.

Yours truly,

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Kelowna

Ha ha ha... this thread is so full of crap it makes me laugh. Reading articles instead of doing your own testing??? I guess if enough people say it then it must be true, why do the work and test to see if the info is correct? And the OP has had months to find the answer by doing some actual work but instead is looking for the Holy Grail to get his site to #1 by posting threads like this.

Now why should I put in 16 hour days testing, testing and then more testing to figure this penguin out and then just give the answers away for free to the lazy people who did nothing?

I think I am going to write another one of those so called expert articles so you all have something to read... of course it will be all full of shit but it will sound so good that anyone reading it will think it is true.

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wickedDUDE

Tell me the secret, wise one.

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wickedDUDE

but seriously, i'll pay you for the secret.

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seoworking

due to penguin update my alexa ranking imporved .Traffic was pouring in good amount but due to recent pr update it went from pr 2 to pr 1

EvilPenguin

you're missing the point of what an online forum is dude.

we're all here to exchange ideas and learn from each others experiences.

just like scientists from the university of Virginia might benefit from a discovery from scientists from the university of Milan and build upon it. No one wastes time testing shit that's already been tested and proven by somebody else. That's not how evolution works buddy.

We live as a community. We learn as a community. That's what we're here for.

EvilPenguin

there's no secret. He didn't recover.

Grindstone

Multiple sites, it's not that hard if you do the opposite of what you did before and the opposite of what everybody is doing now.

Discussing this publicly is only slighter smarter than playing docking station with a live rattlesnake. If you can't understand why, continue to enjoy your shit fuck traffic and reduced earnings.

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jeffrey

God damn you're hot when you're angry.

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amateursurgeon

Yeah - I had barely noticeable dip in traffic after Penguin hit, but it's recovered and increased since then.

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guerilla

I am not aware of a single recovery story so far, and I talk to a lot of people in this space. Doesn't mean there aren't any, but it isn't something that happens often, or it's likely someone would have said something to me.

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Grindstone

Mine was exactly the same on one site, and more than a barely noticeable dip on the other, the latter site is now back stronger than before but it was a lot of work (almost 3 months) and not cheap or easy.

Everybody PMing me for my solution, it's not getting outed. Sorry. Besides, most of you probably used a shit load more crappy "private network" blog posts links than I did, might not even work for you.

Fuck you Jeffrey, where's my words at? Sent your check too...yeah, it's 1995 up in hurr.

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amateursurgeon

It's ok - I'll out my solution. I don't rely on Google for my traffic.

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crackp0t

^this 110%

Keywords stuffing meta tags, keywords stuffing with text the same color as the background, and hacking wordpress blogs to add links in the footer is what fixed penguin for me.

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eliquid

^^ same and is the secret to my post on this thread about helping people.. fuck you for outtin this bro

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Tobias Funke

I asked for a reconsideration request and now I'm ranking even better than I was before Penguin.

Kelowna

Sure glad I don't believe in evolution then cause your thinking is screwed. You compare forums to scientists working for a common goal? Then you take what is said without testing first and then come here crying because your sites get slapped?

I think its time for your thinking to evolve buddy.

And Yes, I have had one of our properties make a comeback from the penguin. What did we do? Short answer: Removed all shitty links and waited patiently in the penalty box.

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wickedDUDE

^ did you have warnings about the links in google webmaster tools?

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thehobbster

I recovered quite a few sites from Penguin. My process was like this:

1.) Mope around for a month like a bitch.
2.) Transfer the site to new domains.
3.) Get ranked faster than everyone trying to recover from Penguin.
4.) Profit.

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eliquid

^^ <3, ive done this too

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guerilla

You couldn't have had many shitty links if you could remove them. Most people I see hit by Penguin have thousands.

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Ishmael

How to sell you next service guaranteed 101:
Find people that are desperate (in this case Penguin victims). Talk about some secret you discovered and how you are doing exactly the opposite of everyone else. This way you seperate yourself from the crowd and indirectly tell them you are the only one that can help them. Although you are totally full of shit and are only talking out of your ass they now see you as an authority, someone who can help.

Now the way I see it there wasn't a Penguin refresh in a long long time so everyone here that is telling you that they got 235453453 sites out of the penalty and increased their traffic by 54354645689506% since Penguin might just not be telling the truth.

Best solution? Stop reading the shit here. Otherwise you will be forever trapped in the secret magical knowledge and service wheel. The only one who can't win that game is you.

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Kelowna

Yes if all your site has is shitty links, pointing directly at it, then it is hard to do anything, if you have a good mix and control most of the spam yourself then it is easier. Always better to use a middle man that can be removed for any questionable type links.

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sk8ordie

To answer the OP, NO.

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junrai214

There are two options. You can remove the bad links. ( you can search the internet) or you can out number the bad links by creating quality links.

I suggest increasing the amount of quality links and not spend too much time removing the bad ones.

shayne54

start over

mituozo

My secret steps to post-penguin success:

1) Login to your domain account
2) PM me, I will tell you my domain username and provider
3) Transfer domain to me
4) Backup your site to .zip, put it in Dropbox and share Dropbox with me
5) ???
6) Profit.

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boatBurner

I see what you did there.

Grindstone

This is good stuff. If I wanted to play this angle though I'd buy penguin hit sites on the cheap and restore their rankings. On that note, anybody got any penguin hit diet domains they want to unload?

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mgtarheels

Yes, I have. So have a lot of the big guys that work agency-side. They talk about it frequently on twitter, if you're curious.

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Ishmael

Marketers gonna market. Helpless people gonna be helpless. Nothing wrong with it. Question is where are you standing and do you like it?

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EvilPenguin

the thing is that people got hit at different levels.

those that only lost a few spots (cf. went from page 1 to page 3-4-5) were probably able to restore their rankings by now, but those that were algorithmically discarded (cf. literally kicked out of the Google SERPs) are probably gonna struggle for a while.

LiamGallagher

...
lol?

I've got a few sites penguinified. My anchor/URL distribution was clearly dumb. I'm working to get those sites out of the penalty.

jeffrey

Evilpenguin is a troll bro, it's all good.

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bitsdawg

IMHO - for severely hit sites, starting over was the best advice. The ironic and painful thing is that my most severely nuked site just went up a PR point on the last update (useless info, I get it). That is probably because of my attempts to diversify links - but so far I've had no Google recovery on the big keywords.

But yeah, Google still sends me ranking for random pages I had never really messed with much before. But that site is still sitting at about 1/2 traffic of pre-penguin.

Diversifying almost everything and building replacement sites has been the strategy that is rebuilding my little corner of the web. I also went and woke up some stale sites I'd been using for feeders. Since they weren't really penalized, and had some age, they were pretty easy pretty up and spark again.

I have to agree with Ishmael, though Ishmael seldom agrees with me.

I wasted too much time crying over spilt milk and paying attention to the expert's recovery strategies.

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