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trigatch4 · 08-27-2007, 10:32 PM

The Million Dollar Homepage on Anabolic Steroids
Digg - Own A Sports Team

MyOwnDemon · 08-27-2007, 10:37 PM

Haha. Nice idea, man.

Jay · 08-27-2007, 11:08 PM

Interesting idea.. it will definitely be interesting to see what kind of donations you get..

trigatch4 · 08-27-2007, 11:11 PM

The first line of business is getting this dugg to the front so the blogging world and news media pick it up as a story.

So hook it up and DIGG ME.

Jondoe0069 · 08-27-2007, 11:15 PM

someone else should take his idea and get it on the front page of digg first then tell everyone he copied you if anyone ever notices him.

haha, JK.

zul200289 · 08-27-2007, 11:30 PM

haha dugg!

trigatch4 · 08-28-2007, 10:19 AM

bumper sticker

SeoDave · 08-28-2007, 10:46 AM

You need to get your automatic tracker up ASAP so people can see in real time how much is being contributed, how close they are getting to the goal, etc or I think you'll end up with only like $1500 in donations and a lot of angry people who donated when the idea tanks.

trigatch4 · 08-28-2007, 10:55 AM

No tengo the knowledge or financing to get the automatic tracker up. That's what the initial funds raised will go towards... along with the vbulletin forum and legal advice

Ben · 08-28-2007, 11:11 AM

I stumbled upon this the other day, would need some tweaking to work for your purposes. Could be a temporary solution.

Javascript Progress / Percentage Bar with CSS by WebAppers

Unarmed Gunman · 08-28-2007, 11:42 AM

First bit of advice - if you're going to cite the miraculous Bills comeback against the Oilers with Frank Reich at the helm, you might want to get the year right. It happened 1/3/1993, not in 1999. Sports fans would probably notice that.

Unarmed Gunman · 08-28-2007, 11:52 AM

Also, it's an interesting concept, but you need to put ALOT of specifics about how the day-to-day operations will be handled, profit sharing, etc. IF you were somehow able to bring together a few large money people into the mix, they are never going to agree to giving in to the whims of a bunch of idiots that contributed $5 each. You would need to run it like a corporation, with shareholders voting in a controlling board to actually manage things. I mean, what are you going to email a million people and ask them who should start a game?

It seems like you haven't given this much more thought beyond trying to make an interesting link bait idea. I think it works well for that. You might even get a couple of hundred bucks from some goofy fuckers.

chatmasta · 08-28-2007, 12:00 PM

Yeah dude, that guy already gave you $100...wtf? But 54 votes and it wasn't made popular...bad time to submit. That's too bad. How many did our digg ring get?

breen · 08-28-2007, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trigatch4

The Million Dollar Homepage on Anabolic Steroids
Digg - Own A Sports Team

Don't take this the wrong way but there are bad ideas, god awful ideas, and then there is this.

trigatch4 · 08-28-2007, 12:37 PM

it will still make the front

members will vote in online polls via a forum like vbulletin...

chatmasta · 08-28-2007, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breen

Don't take this the wrong way but there are bad ideas, god awful ideas, and then there is this.

Don't take this the wrong way, but there are homosexuals, clay aiken, and then there is you.

nachoninja · 08-28-2007, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trigatch4

it will still make the front

Will your server crash again if it does?

John · 08-28-2007, 01:34 PM

I like the idea, I've even given you a link in my sig.

chatmasta · 08-28-2007, 01:45 PM

i donated a penny

p.s. http://www.ownasportsteam.com/joined.html is 404

trigatch4 · 08-28-2007, 01:55 PM

there is a $1 minimum you prick hahaha

the story got buried when it was #2 in the Hot In All Topics on the homepage... with 71 diggs... i'm fuckin pissed. dunno how it happened but not much i can do anyways.

SHIT

breen · 08-28-2007, 01:58 PM

Only on wickedfire could this be considered a remotely good idea. On digitalpoint the Indian guys would be tearing this to pieces. The site doesn't even work. It looks like it was put together by a noob who just read HTML for dummies 1998 edition.

trigatch4 · 08-28-2007, 02:07 PM

thanks for the sig link

dealasite · 08-28-2007, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chatmasta

Don't take this the wrong way, but there are homosexuals, clay aiken, and then there is you.

hahaah. I think fall out boys hold the 'gayest' title currently.

trigatch4 · 08-28-2007, 02:25 PM

alright... so digg is out the window...

anyone have any brilliant ideas to help me push this mainstream to generate some killer word of mouth buzzz? I already stumbled it and submitted to netscape but digg is the only place I've 'worked' to date so I'm a little lost otherwise

Feel free to blog about it! Hehe

DaveEMG · 08-28-2007, 02:33 PM

Hah, I really like the idea. I think its clever and unique. Yeah, you need to work on execution a little better (aka spruce it up, little more professional / web 2.0 style).

Overall, +Rep +Digg.

chatmasta · 08-28-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealasite

hahaah. I think fall out boys hold the 'gayest' title currently.

Damn. I knew I missed someone.

jened · 08-28-2007, 05:14 PM

i had this idea a few years ago - never did anything with it though. get on sports talk radio shows. start local, then maybe a national will pick you up. people have tried ideas like this before. i think it's a good one.

emp · 08-28-2007, 05:20 PM

Put up a tracker... fucking take a screenshot of an excel diagram of the "earnings" ..slap it on the front page, make a new digg:
"25376$ later, the dream of owning a sports team is coming closer"

You really need that tracker, people need something to relate to.
A simple (updated often) screenshot will work, realtime tracking would be better.
List names.

Err... SeoMike had some tracking for that charity thing.

Mike?

::emp::

DaveEMG · 08-28-2007, 06:10 PM

I think you should invent a certain amount of "shares" that are necessary to buy a sports team. I mean, basically you're talking about a pooled investment opportunity where each $1 equates to one share of the endeavor, and in turn earns you voting rights.

I'd emphasize that "shareholders" could influence things like trading decisions, player compensation, etc. I mean - basically an "open source" sports team! Hell, you could even call it that - "open source sports management"

Good luck, I really do like the idea. I might even throw $5 at it once you get a few more functions up on your site.

vizilla · 08-28-2007, 06:15 PM

This has already been done in Europe w/ a soccer team

MyFootballClub - Own the club and pick the team

SeoDave · 08-28-2007, 07:51 PM

trigatch4, you've been doled out a lot of good advice in this thread. I think you should heed it. Also take some serious time to check out the link vizilla just posted. That site has pooled together more than $2M already and is in negotiations to buy a team. I think you need to focus your website more. Pick a sports league. Set a buyin amount. Make rules about how the management of the team will work. It's a cool idea, but it's not worth anything if you don't implement it correctly - and I think it's highly important that you set out the ground rules BEFORE you try to promote the shit out of it. Take a little more time to refine your idea, then do the promotional end. It doens't bode well for any business when they try to raise a ton of funding before even having a business plan. ;-) Good luck though - if you do it right this could be "a great success" (Borat).

trigatch4 · 08-28-2007, 08:42 PM

I agree... I have been given a lot of great advice and here is my response/questions to many of them. Keep in mind, I'll gladly accept anyones help on this project and I'll even hook you up with a luxury suite when it's all said and done hahaha.

The site blows. This is a problem for a number of reasons... a great looking site will create a greater sense of security and feeling that the project is real and to be taken seriously.
Automatic Tracking. This would encourage people to sign up and create a dynamic where people are "watching the race" to the purchase. Paypal has "automatic payment notification" that can interact with a script/database on your website to record all the customer info for each transaction but this isn't something I can create myself. Miles over my head.
Members Only Forum. This is actually something I could probably get up and running ASAP but it would be totally pointless if there aren't a lot of members to begin with.
Pick a specific sport. I think sports fans are mostly sports fans. Sure, people have their preferences but even if I had $500 Million Dollars right now who is to say that any owner in a specific league will want to sell? Keeping it open not only maximizes the chances that a team is purchased in a timely fashion, but it also encourages sports fans of all types to join.
Ground Rules. I agree that the rules aren't set out all that well but I went for the K.I.S.S. model on this. Collect a shit load of money... every dollar equals 1 point in "voting weight" and there are no promises. If enough money isn't collected it goes to charity. If I would implement a rule where people have a financial stake in the team, it would be a legal nightmare and hiring a lawyer would cost a shit load of money in itself. The way it stands now makes everything simple for everybody. I could be more specific though... you're right.
Membership Fee. Why make a set limit? Perhaps one person wants to pay $20 and another person wants to pay $500... I don't want to stop anyone from donating MORE than I would ask and don't want someone NOT to donate because I ask for too much. This gives everyone a chance to be a part of something huge. For even $1... (or 1 cent if you're an ass like chatmasta haha) Another thing is there are huge fluctuations in team valuations between years and leagues... there is no way of knowing how much a team that goes up for sale will actually cost. And... that's how you would determine how much a membership would cost... by finding out how much you need, how many people you can realistically attract and doing the math

That being said...

There are a ton of ifs and buts. To implement all the ideas above it would cost me thousands of dollars that I don't have to spend. That's part of the innocent beauty in my opinion... taking it from an idea into conception WITH the "members" instead of starting some corporatized machine running the show.

At the same time, I agree with everyone that it needs more legs to stand on. I would love to give it all the legs it needs myself but I don't have the resources or capabilities to do it on my own. That's what a portion of the initial "funding" would go towards.

If you are interested in possibly helping me out on this by all means, PM me or AIM me at trigatch4. I really think this is an idea that could take off and actually WORK and geez would it be a lot of fun for everyone involved.

Thanks for everyone's opinions thus far and cheers... I still think this thing could go good places.

Oh and by the way... you could also buy a link on the sponsors page if you want.... heheheheh

DaveEMG · 08-28-2007, 09:33 PM

I'd put money in a site that was designed to get an NFL team in the LA area. But, that'd probably be like $600M. LOL, good luck with that.

Jon · 08-28-2007, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizilla

This has already been done in Europe w/ a soccer team

MyFootballClub - Own the club and pick the team

Damn, you beat me to it.

This idea isn't original. I saw it in a magazine earlier this month. While it's a pretty interesting idea nonetheless, cmon Trigatch, did ya really think of it yourself?

directresponse · 08-28-2007, 11:55 PM

I don't think it really matters if he thought of it on his own or not. Most of internet marketing is taking someone elses idea and modifying it to work for yourself.

The question is if he can create some buzz about what he's trying to do.

Also unless he sets up a real company and does an IPO or some type of private offering he'll never get enough investors with serious money. This isn't going to work if there are just small time investors putting $1 - $25 in each.

I'd clean up the site, make it as legit as possible, then start contacting magazines like Business 2.0, Young Entrepreneur, Wired, Money Magazine, Fortune, Response Magazine. See if they will write about it. Also start contacting newspapers, they always need stuff to write about.

If he can get a prominant person to put a few bucks in, that would also help the site gain legitimacy. So look around for a celebriy or a well known business person. They don't need to give a lot of money, just enough to put their banner on the site.

If the idea actually started getting some serious attention, he can follow it up with traditional advertising (print, radio, tv).

feros · 08-29-2007, 09:53 PM

the key to stealing an idea is to do it **better** than the original. put some more time and effort into this project

A-D · 08-30-2007, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizilla

This has already been done in Europe w/ a soccer team

MyFootballClub - Own the club and pick the team

Nice haven,t seen that before, as well as raising £1.3million the owner has made around £260k looking at the fees, not bad.

DaveEMG · 08-31-2007, 04:21 PM

I was talking to a buddy about this idea yesterday, and he came up with another cool "ownership" idea: Own a Rock Band. Kinda a cool twist on the same idea, but would require a far smaller investment. Basically get like 1,000 people to put down a buck or two, and then have a battle of the bands in a local area (and pay the band a portion of that take). Then, raise some more money to get them some studio recording time, and then launch the CD. The "owners" could each state what their favorite songs were, what the CD art should look like, etc.

Obviously it's a rough idea... But it's an idea. And it'd cost a helluva lot less than owning a major sports franchise.

Alright, someone go get it started.

Hylo · 09-01-2007, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveEMG

I was talking to a buddy about this idea yesterday, and he came up with another cool "ownership" idea: Own a Rock Band. Kinda a cool twist on the same idea, but would require a far smaller investment. Basically get like 1,000 people to put down a buck or two, and then have a battle of the bands in a local area (and pay the band a portion of that take). Then, raise some more money to get them some studio recording time, and then launch the CD. The "owners" could each state what their favorite songs were, what the CD art should look like, etc.

Obviously it's a rough idea... But it's an idea. And it'd cost a helluva lot less than owning a major sports franchise.

Alright, someone go get it started.

Sorry, already been done as well

Sellaband

08-27-2007, 10:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Own A Sports Team The Million Dollar Homepage on Anabolic Steroids Digg - Own A Sports Team Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-27-2007, 10:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
MyOwnDemon Face Rocker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,133 iTrader: 73 / 100%	Haha. Nice idea, man. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I Design Custom Landing Pages Rates from $99+ -- Get a Free Quote. Banners, Landers, Minisites, Web Design & More. AIM: SiteStomp

08-27-2007, 11:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jay Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 294 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Interesting idea.. it will definitely be interesting to see what kind of donations you get.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-27-2007, 11:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	The first line of business is getting this dugg to the front so the blogging world and news media pick it up as a story. So hook it up and DIGG ME. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-27-2007, 11:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jondoe0069 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Estados Unidos Posts: 1,321 iTrader: 9 / 100%	someone else should take his idea and get it on the front page of digg first then tell everyone he copied you if anyone ever notices him. haha, JK. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ (#)(#)

08-27-2007, 11:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
zul200289 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 105 iTrader: 1 / 100%	haha dugg! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ die die die

08-28-2007, 10:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	*bump*er sticker Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-28-2007, 10:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
SeoDave Bumbling Optimist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 374 iTrader: 14 / 100%	You need to get your automatic tracker up ASAP so people can see in real time how much is being contributed, how close they are getting to the goal, etc or I think you'll end up with only like $1500 in donations and a lot of angry people who donated when the idea tanks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "I don't fail - I succeed at finding things that don't work" - Christopher Titus ________________________________________ Fuck Godaddy + HostGator Rocks + Copeac = $$$

08-28-2007, 10:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	No tengo the knowledge or financing to get the automatic tracker up. That's what the initial funds raised will go towards... along with the vbulletin forum and legal advice Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-28-2007, 11:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ben Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago NWS Posts: 1,373 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I stumbled upon this the other day, would need some tweaking to work for your purposes. Could be a temporary solution. Javascript Progress / Percentage Bar with CSS by WebAppers Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-28-2007, 12:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
chatmasta Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NH, Connecticut Posts: 2,441 iTrader: 23 / 100%	Yeah dude, that guy already gave you $100...wtf? But 54 votes and it wasn't made popular...bad time to submit. That's too bad. How many did our digg ring get? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ $$ AFFILIATE PROGRAM PAYING 50% COMMISSION $$ PM me if you are interested. Looking for service providers. Seriously, no bullshit. PM me with any questions.

08-28-2007, 12:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	it will still make the front members will vote in online polls via a forum like vbulletin... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-28-2007, 01:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
John Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sewageville Posts: 4,929 iTrader: 6 / 100%	I like the idea, I've even given you a link in my sig. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://i33.tinypic.com/ip3vh1.jpg

08-28-2007, 01:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
chatmasta Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NH, Connecticut Posts: 2,441 iTrader: 23 / 100%	i donated a penny p.s. http://www.ownasportsteam.com/joined.html is 404 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ $$ AFFILIATE PROGRAM PAYING 50% COMMISSION $$ PM me if you are interested. Looking for service providers. Seriously, no bullshit. PM me with any questions.

08-28-2007, 01:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	there is a $1 minimum you prick hahaha the story got buried when it was #2 in the Hot In All Topics on the homepage... with 71 diggs... i'm fuckin pissed. dunno how it happened but not much i can do anyways. SHIT Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-28-2007, 01:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
breen Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Only on wickedfire could this be considered a remotely good idea. On digitalpoint the Indian guys would be tearing this to pieces. The site doesn't even work. It looks like it was put together by a noob who just read HTML for dummies 1998 edition. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-28-2007, 02:07 PM	#22 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	thanks for the sig link Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-28-2007, 02:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	alright... so digg is out the window... anyone have any brilliant ideas to help me push this mainstream to generate some killer word of mouth buzzz? I already stumbled it and submitted to netscape but digg is the only place I've 'worked' to date so I'm a little lost otherwise Feel free to blog about it! Hehe Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-28-2007, 02:33 PM	#25 (permalink)
DaveEMG Pwner. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 911 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hah, I really like the idea. I think its clever and unique. Yeah, you need to work on execution a little better (aka spruce it up, little more professional / web 2.0 style). Overall, +Rep +Digg. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "If you ain't first you're last..." ... "Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth."

08-28-2007, 05:14 PM	#27 (permalink)
jened Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: upstate NY Posts: 983 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i had this idea a few years ago - never did anything with it though. get on sports talk radio shows. start local, then maybe a national will pick you up. people have tried ideas like this before. i think it's a good one. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-28-2007, 05:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
emp Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,977 iTrader: 17 / 100%	Put up a tracker... fucking take a screenshot of an excel diagram of the "earnings" ..slap it on the front page, make a new digg: "25376$ later, the dream of owning a sports team is coming closer" You really need that tracker, people need something to relate to. A simple (updated often) screenshot will work, realtime tracking would be better. List names. Err... SeoMike had some tracking for that charity thing. Mike? ::emp:: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Your Logical Fallacies - know them to avoid them That's because all programmers are also ninjas.(but not all ninjas are programmers) - LogicFlux Blind Ape Seo

08-28-2007, 06:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
DaveEMG Pwner. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 911 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I think you should invent a certain amount of "shares" that are necessary to buy a sports team. I mean, basically you're talking about a pooled investment opportunity where each $1 equates to one share of the endeavor, and in turn earns you voting rights. I'd emphasize that "shareholders" could influence things like trading decisions, player compensation, etc. I mean - basically an "open source" sports team! Hell, you could even call it that - "open source sports management" Good luck, I really do like the idea. I might even throw $5 at it once you get a few more functions up on your site. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "If you ain't first you're last..." ... "Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth."

08-28-2007, 06:15 PM	#30 (permalink)
vizilla Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 168 iTrader: 2 / 100%	This has already been done in Europe w/ a soccer team MyFootballClub - Own the club and pick the team Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-28-2007, 07:51 PM	#31 (permalink)
SeoDave Bumbling Optimist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 374 iTrader: 14 / 100%	trigatch4, you've been doled out a lot of good advice in this thread. I think you should heed it. Also take some serious time to check out the link vizilla just posted. That site has pooled together more than $2M already and is in negotiations to buy a team. I think you need to focus your website more. Pick a sports league. Set a buyin amount. Make rules about how the management of the team will work. It's a cool idea, but it's not worth anything if you don't implement it correctly - and I think it's highly important that you set out the ground rules BEFORE you try to promote the shit out of it. Take a little more time to refine your idea, then do the promotional end. It doens't bode well for any business when they try to raise a ton of funding before even having a business plan. ;-) Good luck though - if you do it right this could be "a great success" (Borat). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "I don't fail - I succeed at finding things that don't work" - Christopher Titus ________________________________________ Fuck Godaddy + HostGator Rocks + Copeac = $$$

08-28-2007, 08:42 PM	#32 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I agree... I have been given a lot of great advice and here is my response/questions to many of them. Keep in mind, I'll gladly accept anyones help on this project and I'll even hook you up with a luxury suite when it's all said and done hahaha. The site blows. This is a problem for a number of reasons... a great looking site will create a greater sense of security and feeling that the project is real and to be taken seriously. Automatic Tracking. This would encourage people to sign up and create a dynamic where people are "watching the race" to the purchase. Paypal has "automatic payment notification" that can interact with a script/database on your website to record all the customer info for each transaction but this isn't something I can create myself. Miles over my head. Members Only Forum. This is actually something I could probably get up and running ASAP but it would be totally pointless if there aren't a lot of members to begin with. Pick a specific sport. I think sports fans are mostly sports fans. Sure, people have their preferences but even if I had $500 Million Dollars right now who is to say that any owner in a specific league will want to sell? Keeping it open not only maximizes the chances that a team is purchased in a timely fashion, but it also encourages sports fans of all types to join. Ground Rules. I agree that the rules aren't set out all that well but I went for the K.I.S.S. model on this. Collect a shit load of money... every dollar equals 1 point in "voting weight" and there are no promises. If enough money isn't collected it goes to charity. If I would implement a rule where people have a financial stake in the team, it would be a legal nightmare and hiring a lawyer would cost a shit load of money in itself. The way it stands now makes everything simple for everybody. I could be more specific though... you're right. Membership Fee. Why make a set limit? Perhaps one person wants to pay $20 and another person wants to pay $500... I don't want to stop anyone from donating MORE than I would ask and don't want someone NOT to donate because I ask for too much. This gives everyone a chance to be a part of something huge. For even $1... (or 1 cent if you're an ass like chatmasta haha) Another thing is there are huge fluctuations in team valuations between years and leagues... there is no way of knowing how much a team that goes up for sale will actually cost. And... that's how you would determine how much a membership would cost... by finding out how much you need, how many people you can realistically attract and doing the math That being said... There are a ton of ifs and buts. To implement all the ideas above it would cost me thousands of dollars that I don't have to spend. That's part of the innocent beauty in my opinion... taking it from an idea into conception WITH the "members" instead of starting some corporatized machine running the show. At the same time, I agree with everyone that it needs more legs to stand on. I would love to give it all the legs it needs myself but I don't have the resources or capabilities to do it on my own. That's what a portion of the initial "funding" would go towards. If you are interested in possibly helping me out on this by all means, PM me or AIM me at trigatch4. I really think this is an idea that could take off and actually WORK and geez would it be a lot of fun for everyone involved. Thanks for everyone's opinions thus far and cheers... I still think this thing could go good places. Oh and by the way... you could also buy a link on the sponsors page if you want.... heheheheh Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

08-28-2007, 09:33 PM	#33 (permalink)
DaveEMG Pwner. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 911 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'd put money in a site that was designed to get an NFL team in the LA area. But, that'd probably be like $600M. LOL, good luck with that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "If you ain't first you're last..." ... "Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth."

08-28-2007, 11:55 PM	#35 (permalink)
directresponse Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 624 iTrader: 26 / 100%	I don't think it really matters if he thought of it on his own or not. Most of internet marketing is taking someone elses idea and modifying it to work for yourself. The question is if he can create some buzz about what he's trying to do. Also unless he sets up a real company and does an IPO or some type of private offering he'll never get enough investors with serious money. This isn't going to work if there are just small time investors putting $1 - $25 in each. I'd clean up the site, make it as legit as possible, then start contacting magazines like Business 2.0, Young Entrepreneur, Wired, Money Magazine, Fortune, Response Magazine. See if they will write about it. Also start contacting newspapers, they always need stuff to write about. If he can get a prominant person to put a few bucks in, that would also help the site gain legitimacy. So look around for a celebriy or a well known business person. They don't need to give a lot of money, just enough to put their banner on the site. If the idea actually started getting some serious attention, he can follow it up with traditional advertising (print, radio, tv). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-29-2007, 09:53 PM	#36 (permalink)
feros Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 147 iTrader: 0 / 0%	the key to stealing an idea is to do it better than the original. put some more time and effort into this project Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

08-31-2007, 04:21 PM	#38 (permalink)
DaveEMG Pwner. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 911 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I was talking to a buddy about this idea yesterday, and he came up with another cool "ownership" idea: Own a Rock Band. Kinda a cool twist on the same idea, but would require a far smaller investment. Basically get like 1,000 people to put down a buck or two, and then have a battle of the bands in a local area (and pay the band a portion of that take). Then, raise some more money to get them some studio recording time, and then launch the CD. The "owners" could each state what their favorite songs were, what the CD art should look like, etc. Obviously it's a rough idea... But it's an idea. And it'd cost a helluva lot less than owning a major sports franchise. Alright, someone go get it started. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "If you ain't first you're last..." ... "Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth."

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