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Lord Brar · 09-24-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cashflowrusty

I have an idea: When banned users try to log in, redirect them to blah blah

BTW, I look forward to the pricing also.

Fuck! Why do I always end up clicking that link thinking I might get some midget porn there.

MDSandB · 09-24-2007, 12:37 PM

This will drive shit away from WF. I support the decision. Now how are we going to know which account to pay and when to pay coz its only a week away.

MDSandB

Aequitas · 09-24-2007, 12:47 PM

So what are you doing with your guides then? Letting them in for free or locking them out until they pay the fee's?

Emagineinc · 09-24-2007, 01:06 PM

<---- been lurking for a couple months, seems to come down to some preeeeetty simple train of thoughts, and this is for all the super super n00bs here. If you're not making enough money to at least pay for these subscriptions, or don't think they're "worth" it, or havn't found anything valueable enough here to make that sort of income AT LEAST per month, then fack off.

I don't make jack from am yet, but I know good info when i see it.

inspire187 · 09-24-2007, 01:17 PM

Sounds good to me. I'm just a lurker here but I only come on for 1 reason and thats to figure out new ways to make money. The paid section sounds like a place where the focus will be more on sharing unique ideas (as opposed to lots of flaming/junk posts) so perhaps I'll be more inclined to participate.

(P.S. $10/month will be good!)

aim · 09-24-2007, 01:35 PM

I think three tiers may be a bit over the top. I suggest you just keep a free forum for B.S. and normal stuff, and then charge $200.00/month (or more, even) for a "Premium" section.

Having such a high monthly fee would help separate those of us who are serious about sharing knowledge much more apt to do so. I could show people how to make tons of money using simple black hat techniques, but I would NEVER post them here (or even in a $25.00/month forum) because as soon as the sheeple try them, they'll die out.

I recommend a basic forum free, and a super expensive expensive forum for the rest of us.

m0rtal · 09-24-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aim

I think three tiers may be a bit over the top. I suggest you just keep a free forum for B.S. and normal stuff, and then charge $200.00/month (or more, even) for a "Premium" section.

Having such a high monthly fee would help separate those of us who are serious about sharing knowledge much more apt to do so. I could show people how to make tons of money using simple black hat techniques, but I would NEVER post them here (or even in a $25.00/month forum) because as soon as the sheeple try them, they'll die out.

I recommend a basic forum free, and a super expensive expensive forum for the rest of us.

I get your point but that sounds kinda steep man. Think about it, you're going to pay $200 just to share your ideas not knowing what anyone else will share. Not saying I wouldn't pay it but I would have to know there is some seriously good shit in there.

I haven't been a member for long but here's my opinion.

A few months back I joined another paid forum (won't mention which one). The quality of info was very good at first and as more members joined it seemed to die down. It doesn't matter if you make it $20 a month or $50 a month. Unless it is limited to a number of people I think you will find that the quality of information will go down over time as more people join.

Especially considering since the only thing keeping those who aren't serious out is the money. It still doesn't mean you're not going to have newbies going in there and just leeching the info for the monthly fee and making some feel uncomfortable sharing.

Are you not going to promote the paid section? Of course you are, which means over time you will get more and more members and less and less sharing...but that's just my opinion.

pig2cat · 09-24-2007, 02:32 PM

well, bye then o_O

Submerge · 09-24-2007, 02:35 PM

Looks like I'll have one less forum to visit

trigatch4 · 09-24-2007, 03:05 PM

Mixed feelings.

I understand the intent and can't argue with the model you're suggesting. Afterall, it is your forum. Stanley mentioned $25 or $5... it doesn't matter. I think he makes a valid point in that charging ANY fee should keep away the pure garbage. Let's just hope you go with $5 instead of $25!

On the other hand, I think you could accomplish the same without a paid subscription model. Basically, you have to earn your stars and stripes. The "premium area" would start with whoever you deem "worthy" - mods, guides, whoever. Within the members area there could be a forum called "initiation" whereby:

Thread Title = Members Name
Poll = Accepted or Denied
Outcome = certain % wins acceptance with a minimum number of votes needed

Let the existing "premium members" decide who is worthy of the "inner circle". You'll basically need people to "vouch" for you... ie eliminating the bullshit. If a newb wants to "get in" then perhaps they can pay their way in but at the same time, what is to stop Google or Facebook or anyone from ante-ing up $200/year to get the lowdown on the showdown... the "dirt" so to speak?

There are positives/negatives no matter what you do so obviously you have to do what's in your best interest. I'm just offering a few ideas off the top of my head after reading your thread.

Goodluck with whatever you choose... I'm sure it will make WF an even better place either way.

Cheers.

mdmazing · 09-24-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by trigatch4

Mixed feelings.

I understand the intent and can't argue with the model you're suggesting. Afterall, it is your forum. Stanley mentioned $25 or $5... it doesn't matter. I think he makes a valid point in that charging ANY fee should keep away the pure garbage. Let's just hope you go with $5 instead of $25!

On the other hand, I think you could accomplish the same without a paid subscription model. Basically, you have to earn your stars and stripes. The "premium area" would start with whoever you deem "worthy" - mods, guides, whoever. Within the members area there could be a forum called "initiation" whereby:

Thread Title = Members Name
Poll = Accepted or Denied
Outcome = certain % wins acceptance with a minimum number of votes needed

Let the existing "premium members" decide who is worthy of the "inner circle". You'll basically need people to "vouch" for you... ie eliminating the bullshit. If a newb wants to "get in" then perhaps they can pay their way in but at the same time, what is to stop Google or Facebook or anyone from ante-ing up $200/year to get the lowdown on the showdown... the "dirt" so to speak?

There are positives/negatives no matter what you do so obviously you have to do what's in your best interest. I'm just offering a few ideas off the top of my head after reading your thread.

Goodluck with whatever you choose... I'm sure it will make WF an even better place either way.

Cheers.

agreed, but i have a feeling it's more about the money than anything else. I hope jon won't ban me for stating my opinion this time

SleepyStarling · 09-24-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by trigatch4

Mixed feelings.

Let the existing "premium members" decide who is worthy of the "inner circle". You'll basically need people to "vouch" for you... ie eliminating the bullshit. If a newb wants to "get in" then perhaps they can pay their way in but at the same time, what is to stop Google or Facebook or anyone from ante-ing up $200/year to get the lowdown on the showdown... the "dirt" so to speak?

I thought we outgrew elitist popularity contests in high school.

No offense, Trigatch, and I see a valid point in your suggestion, but that will only encourage competitors to badmouth each other or [insert various prejudices here].

While capping the subscribers at a certain number is okay, having too limited a forum can also be self-destructive as talent leaves, moves on or stops sharing ideas and a vacuum emerges where rising talent should be.

Everyone was a noob at some point. Few are talented, it's true, but those few will never matriculate if everyone keeps throwing up barriers and catch-22s like:

-- you need a shitload of money to buy into a club to make money (I'm not saying I can't pay $25, I'm saying prices significantly higher than that are steep for forums)

-- you need to know people to meet people who can 'know you'

etc. Just saying. Some of us are just starting to see returns on little-cost investments and still learning programming as we go. I don't mind paying, and I told Jon so -- but we'd better be getting really good info in a paid forum.

seocracy · 09-24-2007, 04:29 PM

Im a noob and therefore afraid of being left out.

Can someone tell me what PR is?

Jay · 09-24-2007, 04:34 PM

PR is page ratio. It's the ratio of how many links there are to your page versus all the links to all the pages on the internet.

trigatch4 · 09-24-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SleepyStarling

No offense, Trigatch, and I see a valid point in your suggestion, but that will only encourage competitors to badmouth each other or [insert various prejudices here].

Point taken... but I explained that every solution has positives/negatives. The "vouching" policy serves to eliminate the threat of unwanted prying eyes AND newbs. A paying system eliminates people with little/no disposable income which are probably mostly newbs.

Whatever I'll just wait and see what is implemented and decide what to do from there. I'm done with this thread until Jon imposes his new rules of membership... then everything will sort itself out.

Wiy · 09-24-2007, 04:50 PM

sounds good to me

JamesH · 09-24-2007, 05:00 PM

At first I was fucking pissed about this shit. But this placed has helped me earn a lot of bank, so I figure its worth it. Yea I don't have a job, and all of the money I make goes back into trying to make more money, but I'm sure I can scrape a few bucks together to get in. You said we can bargain, correct?

turbolapp · 09-24-2007, 05:09 PM

Well if Toolhen's little spamming episode that just happened a few moments ago (i think the poor mod is still cleaning it all up) didn't just drive this thread home I don't know what will.

What a fucking Git and a half.

Laura · 09-24-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by turbolapp

Well if Toolhen's little spamming episode that just happened a few moments ago (i think the poor mod is still cleaning it all up) didn't just drive this thread home I don't know what will.

Yah, and the touchpad on my 11.1 inch laptop doesn't make it very easy to delete them all very fast...

SleepyStarling · 09-24-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by turbolapp

09-24-2007, 12:37 PM	#52 (permalink)
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09-24-2007, 02:32 PM	#58 (permalink)
pig2cat Attention whore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tiny wet country in west europe Posts: 1,564 iTrader: (0)	well, bye then o_O __________________ Free streaming Anime(100+ series, divx&flash) & tv (stargate, allo allo! pb) \m/ => piggymoo.com!

09-24-2007, 03:05 PM	#60 (permalink)
trigatch4 $204/mo. -EurekaDiary.com Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast, USA Baby Posts: 1,914 iTrader: (1)	Mixed feelings. I understand the intent and can't argue with the model you're suggesting. Afterall, it is your forum. Stanley mentioned $25 or $5... it doesn't matter. I think he makes a valid point in that charging ANY fee should keep away the pure garbage. Let's just hope you go with $5 instead of $25! On the other hand, I think you could accomplish the same without a paid subscription model. Basically, you have to earn your stars and stripes. The "premium area" would start with whoever you deem "worthy" - mods, guides, whoever. Within the members area there could be a forum called "initiation" whereby: Thread Title = Members Name Poll = Accepted or Denied Outcome = certain % wins acceptance with a minimum number of votes needed Let the existing "premium members" decide who is worthy of the "inner circle". You'll basically need people to "vouch" for you... ie eliminating the bullshit. If a newb wants to "get in" then perhaps they can pay their way in but at the same time, what is to stop Google or Facebook or anyone from ante-ing up $200/year to get the lowdown on the showdown... the "dirt" so to speak? There are positives/negatives no matter what you do so obviously you have to do what's in your best interest. I'm just offering a few ideas off the top of my head after reading your thread. Goodluck with whatever you choose... I'm sure it will make WF an even better place either way. Cheers. __________________ ChromeSpot.com - Google Chrome Forum Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule EurekaDiary.com - My Blog

09-24-2007, 04:29 PM	#63 (permalink)
seocracy Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 801 iTrader: (4)	Im a noob and therefore afraid of being left out. Can someone tell me what PR is? __________________ Datapresser.com - Content Generation and Search Engine Analytics Seocracy.com

09-24-2007, 04:34 PM	#64 (permalink)
Jay Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 291 iTrader: (1)	PR is page ratio. It's the ratio of how many links there are to your page versus all the links to all the pages on the internet. __________________

09-24-2007, 01:06 PM	#54 (permalink)
Emagineinc Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 46 iTrader: (0)	<---- been lurking for a couple months, seems to come down to some preeeeetty simple train of thoughts, and this is for all the super super n00bs here. If you're not making enough money to at least pay for these subscriptions, or don't think they're "worth" it, or havn't found anything valueable enough here to make that sort of income AT LEAST per month, then fack off. I don't make jack from am yet, but I know good info when i see it.

09-24-2007, 01:17 PM	#55 (permalink)
inspire187 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23 iTrader: (0)	Sounds good to me. I'm just a lurker here but I only come on for 1 reason and thats to figure out new ways to make money. The paid section sounds like a place where the focus will be more on sharing unique ideas (as opposed to lots of flaming/junk posts) so perhaps I'll be more inclined to participate. (P.S. $10/month will be good!)

09-24-2007, 01:35 PM	#56 (permalink)
aim Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,114 iTrader: (1)	I think three tiers may be a bit over the top. I suggest you just keep a free forum for B.S. and normal stuff, and then charge $200.00/month (or more, even) for a "Premium" section. Having such a high monthly fee would help separate those of us who are serious about sharing knowledge much more apt to do so. I could show people how to make tons of money using simple black hat techniques, but I would NEVER post them here (or even in a $25.00/month forum) because as soon as the sheeple try them, they'll die out. I recommend a basic forum free, and a super expensive expensive forum for the rest of us.

09-24-2007, 02:35 PM	#59 (permalink)
Submerge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 69 iTrader: (0)	Looks like I'll have one less forum to visit

09-24-2007, 04:50 PM	#66 (permalink)
Wiy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 362 iTrader: (0)	sounds good to me

09-24-2007, 05:09 PM	#68 (permalink)
turbolapp Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston, TexASS Posts: 2,681 iTrader: (1)	Well if Toolhen's little spamming episode that just happened a few moments ago (i think the poor mod is still cleaning it all up) didn't just drive this thread home I don't know what will. What a fucking Git and a half. __________________ So your earnings are slighty shady. Stop worrying about being dropped from your network and go with a network that's actually owned by a black hat. Makes sense, doesn't it?