Making money online blows - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

T3hSh1T · 09-26-2007, 11:46 PM

Everything about internet monetization starting to suck. Adwords becoming too expensive. People click BOT DONT BUY. Cpa companies and advertisers scrubbing the shit of your leads because the imputed email wasn't "fresh", keywords tooooooo competitive. One of my biggest sites has lost 50% of its traffic in the past three months due to gradual fall in google rankings.

Everything expensive and exploited. Too many scammers. too much spendism and competition.

SEO_Mike · 09-26-2007, 11:52 PM

Welcome to the party. Enjoy the punch.

T3hSh1T · 09-26-2007, 11:58 PM

your sig makes no sense...

0352 · 09-26-2007, 11:58 PM

Whambulance.jpg

Life ain't easy. Either your in it for the long haul, or find another job.

T3hSh1T · 09-27-2007, 12:05 AM

youz madea funny huh

i am aware it hard but this blows

jiminic2 · 09-27-2007, 12:32 AM

What sucks is that to make online money you have to keep writing and filling your website/blog with fresh content at least once a week. That keeps the site fresh in the "mind" of Google. Sometimes copying other people's posts and changing them around works as long as the original author can't tell it's his. It seems like you have to keep changing things around to keep your ideas on your site new and alive.

loyolabenson · 09-27-2007, 12:36 AM

I suggest Indian content writers. They work cheap and you will rank for a lot of unique kw's with all their misspellings.

illkity · 09-27-2007, 12:37 AM

All you people who think it too fucking hard... put yourself out of you own misery and go surf pr0n.

tom · 09-27-2007, 12:41 AM

let's be thankful that most people don't understand how to make money online

Nickflame · 09-27-2007, 01:31 AM

it is easy dude, much easier than any other job i would say.
Just use your brain.

ubaidabcd · 09-27-2007, 01:41 AM

I don't understand why people tell noobs it's not easy. It does take work. It does require a brain to understand what's going on in the world.

There are reasons why they have people at the drive-thru asking you, "Would you like ketchup with that?" If it was that simple, then everybody would be doing it. For that reason I'm glad, it's not that simple. I want to be proud of my work and stand out from the losers. Trust me I'm no baller, but I do work at my goals and my persistance to succeed is what makes me proud.

Unfortunately we're not living in a utopia. There are people here like myself who stay up all day and nights on various substances to get work done for a reason. It takes hard work and luck. Just keep working at it, nothing worth living for in life is going to be easy.

You have to actually like doing this type of work. If you're looking to get rich over night it's not for you. With me, I might not ever be rich, but I don't see myself quitting ever. It's all about passion. I'd rather spend my $1.00 on .10 a click on YSM than a lottery ticket; but that's just me.

Andrew · 09-27-2007, 01:55 AM

Great news, now hiring

Xrproto · 09-27-2007, 01:58 AM

The only competition is yourself.

SUP3RNOVA · 09-27-2007, 02:33 AM

such is life...but people are still making more money than you can imagine (non-scammers mind you), so when taking a look at that picture, making a simple full time income is no big deal. break it down...

let's say that you're working a 9-5 shit job but making a decent amount of money...lets say $80,000/year which is above average. ok so what's it take to make 80k year...

simple math and it boils down to $220 profit AFTER taxes. then that's about $325 profit before taxes assuming your tax is 31% (fuck the government)...different places have different taxes. $325 really isn't that bad with all the shit you can do online to make money. it's easy to get a few niches making $100/day in affiliate marketing, then make some chump change with adsense (proxies are easy as hell). its such a small scale when there's people out there making $50,000+/day doing the same thing.

Gyppo · 09-27-2007, 02:44 AM

Rome wasn't built in a day

ubaidabcd · 09-27-2007, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUP3RNOVA

such is life...but people are still making more money than you can imagine (non-scammers mind you), so when taking a look at that picture, making a simple full time income is no big deal. break it down...

let's say that you're working a 9-5 shit job but making a decent amount of money...lets say $80,000/year which is above average. ok so what's it take to make 80k year...

simple math and it boils down to $220 profit AFTER taxes. then that's about $325 profit before taxes assuming your tax is 31% (fuck the government)...different places have different taxes. $325 really isn't that bad with all the shit you can do online to make money. it's easy to get a few niches making $100/day in affiliate marketing, then make some chump change with adsense (proxies are easy as hell). its such a small scale when there's people out there making $50,000+/day doing the same thing.

Yeah, but there's so much more involved isn't there? With all the affiliates saturating every niche that's making money. Then you have to take your advertising, and investment into budget. Then finding those offers that will make you money. Then finding the right content to convert to your customers, testing and testing your ads/landing pages, standing out from your competitors. Using the correct ad copys, then keeping up with your PPC adgroups to keep your bids low and high CTR and QS. Tracking keywords, deleting irrelevant keywords, finding out how to increase your profit based on the converstion rates of your keywords, etc..etc.. I'm sure there's much more involved isn't there? Not to mention staying on top of the game and keeping up with the hot new offers that will make money.

illkity · 09-27-2007, 03:14 AM

Boo fucking hoo...

Stop Crying | 1938 Media

Miguel · 09-27-2007, 03:45 AM

Go talk to the fucking mexicans who wait outside home depot, see if you'd prefer to be doing that. You fucking whining bastard.

Well you could start a forum and act like "oh yeah this shit is open and we speak our minds and cuss" and then a year later start charging for " the really good stuff, that way we can weed out the noobs and trolls "
I hear that is a really good business model from people here on the forum.

ubaidabcd · 09-27-2007, 03:55 AM

I hear Craigslist is looking for potential candidates in their Erotic department.

Aequitas · 09-27-2007, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gyppo

Rome wasn't built in a day

I tell myself this almost every fucking day, everyone needs at least one bit of reality to keep them going considering after being online for hours upon hours you seem to fall into a world of your own which just doesn't exsist to the outside world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by illkity

Boo fucking hoo...

Stop Crying | 1938 Media

Oh and I fucking love this video haha I hate all his videos but this one is halarious and can be true with so many different people.

P.S. That damb thing won't display on this site, Jon fix wickedfire only some videos can be displayed around here, unless I'm missing something.

ImagesAndWords · 09-27-2007, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xrproto

The only competition is yourself.

Well said!

Oh and to those who complain about it becoming expensive to do this: You're spending way too much.

Think outside the box and NEVER give up.
Unless you WANT to work at McDonalds.

ubaidabcd · 09-27-2007, 04:33 AM

To some people McDonalds would be easier, since it doesn't require as much brain power. You do your usual every day routine, get a paycheck at the end of the week.

In IM you consistently have to be thinking and working to stay a step ahead of the game, you're the only person responsible for your paycheck. it's not something everybody can do, thats why the OP is pissed.

I do think people can get lucky, such as I have, but luck and skill are completely two different things. Luck is only going to last so long, while skill is confidence which can last a life time.

09-26-2007, 11:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
T3hSh1T Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16 iTrader: (0)	Making money online blows Everything about internet monetization starting to suck. Adwords becoming too expensive. People click BOT DONT BUY. Cpa companies and advertisers scrubbing the shit of your leads because the imputed email wasn't "fresh", keywords tooooooo competitive. One of my biggest sites has lost 50% of its traffic in the past three months due to gradual fall in google rankings. Everything expensive and exploited. Too many scammers. too much spendism and competition.

09-26-2007, 11:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
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09-26-2007, 11:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
0352 Senior Affiliate Manager Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 399 iTrader: (0)	Whambulance.jpg Life ain't easy. Either your in it for the long haul, or find another job. __________________

09-27-2007, 12:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
jiminic2 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: California Posts: 2 iTrader: (0)	What sucks is that to make online money you have to keep writing and filling your website/blog with fresh content at least once a week. That keeps the site fresh in the "mind" of Google. Sometimes copying other people's posts and changing them around works as long as the original author can't tell it's his. It seems like you have to keep changing things around to keep your ideas on your site new and alive. __________________ Use The Law Of Attraction To Get Anything You Want!

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09-26-2007, 11:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
T3hSh1T Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16 iTrader: (0)	your sig makes no sense...

09-27-2007, 12:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
T3hSh1T Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16 iTrader: (0)	youz madea funny huh i am aware it hard but this blows

09-27-2007, 12:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
illkity n00b13 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oz Posts: 352 iTrader: (0)	All you people who think it too fucking hard... put yourself out of you own misery and go surf pr0n. __________________ NicheBot Keyword Tool - www.nichbot.com

09-27-2007, 12:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
tom Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 30 iTrader: (0)	let's be thankful that most people don't understand how to make money online

09-27-2007, 01:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nickflame Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	it is easy dude, much easier than any other job i would say. Just use your brain. __________________ Respectfully, Nick Flame

09-27-2007, 01:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
ubaidabcd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,037 iTrader: (3)	I don't understand why people tell noobs it's not easy. It does take work. It does require a brain to understand what's going on in the world. There are reasons why they have people at the drive-thru asking you, "Would you like ketchup with that?" If it was that simple, then everybody would be doing it. For that reason I'm glad, it's not that simple. I want to be proud of my work and stand out from the losers. Trust me I'm no baller, but I do work at my goals and my persistance to succeed is what makes me proud. Unfortunately we're not living in a utopia. There are people here like myself who stay up all day and nights on various substances to get work done for a reason. It takes hard work and luck. Just keep working at it, nothing worth living for in life is going to be easy. You have to actually like doing this type of work. If you're looking to get rich over night it's not for you. With me, I might not ever be rich, but I don't see myself quitting ever. It's all about passion. I'd rather spend my $1.00 on .10 a click on YSM than a lottery ticket; but that's just me.

09-27-2007, 01:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Andrew Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,972 iTrader: (0)	Great news, now hiring

09-27-2007, 01:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
Xrproto Waste of e-space Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,693 iTrader: (4)	The only competition is yourself. __________________ I can assure you I am as insane as the next man.

09-27-2007, 02:33 AM	#14 (permalink)
SUP3RNOVA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 374 iTrader: (0)	such is life...but people are still making more money than you can imagine (non-scammers mind you), so when taking a look at that picture, making a simple full time income is no big deal. break it down... let's say that you're working a 9-5 shit job but making a decent amount of money...lets say $80,000/year which is above average. ok so what's it take to make 80k year... simple math and it boils down to $220 profit AFTER taxes. then that's about $325 profit before taxes assuming your tax is 31% (fuck the government)...different places have different taxes. $325 really isn't that bad with all the shit you can do online to make money. it's easy to get a few niches making $100/day in affiliate marketing, then make some chump change with adsense (proxies are easy as hell). its such a small scale when there's people out there making $50,000+/day doing the same thing. __________________ Are you an UberAffiliate?

09-27-2007, 02:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
Gyppo My Balls Convert Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 177 iTrader: (1)	Rome wasn't built in a day __________________ Unlimited Web Hosting from $4.95 \| Affiliate Marketing Blog

09-27-2007, 09:41 AM	#23 (permalink)
Affiliace.com

09-27-2007, 03:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
illkity n00b13 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oz Posts: 352 iTrader: (0)	Boo fucking hoo... Stop Crying \| 1938 Media __________________ NicheBot Keyword Tool - www.nichbot.com

09-27-2007, 03:45 AM	#18 (permalink)
Miguel internets specialist Join Date: May 2007 Location: BayArea Posts: 420 iTrader: (1)	Go talk to the fucking mexicans who wait outside home depot, see if you'd prefer to be doing that. You fucking whining bastard. Well you could start a forum and act like "oh yeah this shit is open and we speak our minds and cuss" and then a year later start charging for " the really good stuff, that way we can weed out the noobs and trolls " I hear that is a really good business model from people here on the forum. __________________ I'm Lurkin' & Learnin'...

09-27-2007, 03:55 AM	#19 (permalink)
ubaidabcd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,037 iTrader: (3)	I hear Craigslist is looking for potential candidates in their Erotic department.

09-27-2007, 04:33 AM	#22 (permalink)
ubaidabcd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,037 iTrader: (3)	To some people McDonalds would be easier, since it doesn't require as much brain power. You do your usual every day routine, get a paycheck at the end of the week. In IM you consistently have to be thinking and working to stay a step ahead of the game, you're the only person responsible for your paycheck. it's not something everybody can do, thats why the OP is pissed. I do think people can get lucky, such as I have, but luck and skill are completely two different things. Luck is only going to last so long, while skill is confidence which can last a life time.