New WickedFire Report - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Jon · 11-19-2007, 07:12 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally... our efforts are paying off.

We're probably the only forum that's proud to report this, but we are actually down in traffic, rankings, and indexes across the board.

Why are we so happy about it? Because it means we're getting less newbies, spammers, assholes, scammers, useless and worseless people hitting WickedFire.com!

I've purposely taken steps over the last 8 months to downgrade our search rankings (although we still rank kinda high - #12 instead of #2 for the term 'best boobs' on Google) by not going for keywords that newbies would be more inclined to type in and search for.

We're not against ALL newbies... just the annoying ones or the type that don't make WF material. We used to average 1:25-1:40 newbies would become regular WF members, but most would end up getting banned for doing spam or trolling. Now we're well over the 1:100 mark!

Remember though.. as a newbie you guys have a ton of other forum alternatives to choose from. Hell, there are forums and blogs specifically dedicated to you guys, to "helping you", and selling you on the idea that all you need to do is press some buttons and the ATM will spit out franklins left and right.

Whereas at WickedFire our goal is to be the community resource for more advanced, less ethical webmasters, affiliates, designers, programmers, seo/sem, domainers, etc. The avg skill level of a WickedFire member seems to be in the dead middle. Most of you guys have been around between 1-3 years, most of you have made the switch from part time to full time working for yourselves, most of you have cash to spend in terms of development and marketing, whereas people on say, DP are always trying to get something for free without spending a dime. WickedFire has had less than 10, yes.. UNDER TEN complaints of scammers in our entire 1.5 years of operation. That stat right there is fucking awesome. I think the real number is actually under five if my memory serves me right, but then again, my memory isn't my strongest part, so let's not depend on that.

The average WickedFire member knows their shit. That's the part that I'm the proudest to report. After having conversations with so many of you on a personal and forum level I gotta say, the part I love the most is the sense of pride and humor here. You guys and girls don't take shit from anyone anymore, and you aren't afraid to call someone out right away. Cmon, which other forum prides themself on that shit??? No one, except for us!

This place is so fucking solid that at conferences when affiliate managers and company staffers/owners speak to me, and tell me that they read WF all the time, but are TOO AFRAID to post because they don't want to get their asses handed right back to them, that says RESPECT. Maybe a bit of fear too, but look what we've done. We've caused the industry to take a step back and consider that "wait a second, if we say this or that, will WickedFire catch us, and if they do, how badly will it effect us?" For getting any company to put that into their list of questions is a pure fucking honor for us.

We're getting rid of the $35/mo premium area and charging you people. Everyone that was charged will get access to the Business Premium area instead, or they can be refunded. Whichever. We're also giving back signatures, increasing PM box sizes too.

We learned a lot from the charging members for specific areas project. Instead of giving up and moving on, we're applying what has worked to some new projects, and keeping the rest of it free.

I hate announcing new services or projects so I just won't do it, until it's ready to be launched in beta mode. The first of many of our current projects will be going into beta this month, so I will post an announcement on that as soon as we're ready to accept people. It will be 100% free for life for users.

Thanks to everyone for making WickedFire great. I may not seem like a very socialable guy at conferences or in general, but I know where my loyalty is, and that's with the community here, and to the people that constantly volunteer here to ensure that the content, tips/ideas, humor, and all around news and fun stay up to date and constant. Without you, the WickedFire members or staff, this place would be a ghost town of some guy named Jon typing to himself. So thank you everyone for your support and loyalty, it is VERY much appreciated.

Remember too, that this is not a one man show. The staff here works very hard to keep the peace and keep things running smoothly. Without your contributions in terms of content, topics, ideas and suggestions, we wouldn't be able to keep going or growing. At over 220,000 posts, and over 15,000 members with almost zero advertising/marketing on our end, we have to be doing something right within our 1.5 years of existence! Keep it up!

Thanks again to everyone, and have a good holiday!

Jon

SUP3RNOVA · 11-19-2007, 07:18 PM

good shit.

droplister · 11-19-2007, 07:28 PM

...so fucking solid...

bam bam · 11-19-2007, 07:36 PM

Anyone else feel hella proud to have gotten through the Newb barrier and actually become a proud WF member?

I fucking love this forum!

Nicely done Jon and staff. KUDOS!

turbolapp · 11-19-2007, 07:45 PM

Group Hug!

EDIT: Holy Crap! There's my old sig....awww I'm so happy!

Of course it doesn't make sense anymore so I will be changing it

radio · 11-19-2007, 07:49 PM

Hella Proud! Good shit, Jon!

kamesh · 11-19-2007, 07:51 PM

Wow!! I can see a different version of JON, Damn good shit !!

PM Limit raised to 100

MyOwnDemon · 11-19-2007, 07:54 PM

Slick post, Jon... sounds like you're getting soft. Haha. Just kidding man.

Wooody · 11-19-2007, 08:09 PM

I'm on this forum everyday. Learnt a shit load and keep learning a shitload. Guess I better start giving back a bit more.

m0rtal · 11-19-2007, 08:13 PM

Very well said, this is a great community

barman · 11-19-2007, 08:14 PM

How much does this Report cost? $97 ?

BlondeTM · 11-19-2007, 08:48 PM

I don't want a refund, I want access to the business premium section so I can hang out with the cool kids (you know...my peers

)

I also fit the profile, except I have ethics. Is that a bad thing?

Phre0nBurn · 11-19-2007, 08:50 PM

barman - Yes, $97, but you get 47 free ebooks with it as well.

For only $50,000 more you can have one-on-one talks with Jon as often as possible for 7 days.

Good shit Jon. I have been here for about a year now, I just never felt like being an actual member or saying anything because I had to get used to the environment. I love it, but it is rare.
Now that I'm here, FTW. This place rocks...

Just created a new thread in appreciation of all of you guys in the Shooting the Shit section...

nachoninja · 11-19-2007, 08:56 PM

Nice work, my sig is so shiney again!

nmwando · 11-19-2007, 09:29 PM

i dont mean to sound like a kiss ass, but honestly setting up something like WF isnt easy. Its like watching Tom brady play lol, setting up filters to members on whats expected is even harder. You can always tell when some "how to make money" dp shitter gets on there and how QUICKLY the members react, love it.

Kudos man and to everyone who makes this place the shit and members who have helped me out, correctad, nate, Eli the man Bluehatseo.com

. Gracias keep it up.

Demon · 11-19-2007, 10:23 PM

OK everyone, back to work!

Hehe nice one Jon

DomainRealty · 11-19-2007, 10:29 PM

Jon...you have my utter respect (as if you didn't have it before

) It takes some serious balls to take the shit you took about the charging per month, and although I was not a subscriber, I thank you for weeding out the dumbfucks

Jason

11-19-2007, 07:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jon Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 7,576	New WickedFire Report YES!!!!!!!!!!! Finally... our efforts are paying off. We're probably the only forum that's proud to report this, but we are actually down in traffic, rankings, and indexes across the board. Why are we so happy about it? Because it means we're getting less newbies, spammers, assholes, scammers, useless and worseless people hitting WickedFire.com! I've purposely taken steps over the last 8 months to downgrade our search rankings (although we still rank kinda high - #12 instead of #2 for the term 'best boobs' on Google) by not going for keywords that newbies would be more inclined to type in and search for. We're not against ALL newbies... just the annoying ones or the type that don't make WF material. We used to average 1:25-1:40 newbies would become regular WF members, but most would end up getting banned for doing spam or trolling. Now we're well over the 1:100 mark! Remember though.. as a newbie you guys have a ton of other forum alternatives to choose from. Hell, there are forums and blogs specifically dedicated to you guys, to "helping you", and selling you on the idea that all you need to do is press some buttons and the ATM will spit out franklins left and right. Whereas at WickedFire our goal is to be the community resource for more advanced, less ethical webmasters, affiliates, designers, programmers, seo/sem, domainers, etc. The avg skill level of a WickedFire member seems to be in the dead middle. Most of you guys have been around between 1-3 years, most of you have made the switch from part time to full time working for yourselves, most of you have cash to spend in terms of development and marketing, whereas people on say, DP are always trying to get something for free without spending a dime. WickedFire has had less than 10, yes.. UNDER TEN complaints of scammers in our entire 1.5 years of operation. That stat right there is fucking awesome. I think the real number is actually under five if my memory serves me right, but then again, my memory isn't my strongest part, so let's not depend on that. The average WickedFire member knows their shit. That's the part that I'm the proudest to report. After having conversations with so many of you on a personal and forum level I gotta say, the part I love the most is the sense of pride and humor here. You guys and girls don't take shit from anyone anymore, and you aren't afraid to call someone out right away. Cmon, which other forum prides themself on that shit??? No one, except for us! This place is so fucking solid that at conferences when affiliate managers and company staffers/owners speak to me, and tell me that they read WF all the time, but are TOO AFRAID to post because they don't want to get their asses handed right back to them, that says RESPECT. Maybe a bit of fear too, but look what we've done. We've caused the industry to take a step back and consider that "wait a second, if we say this or that, will WickedFire catch us, and if they do, how badly will it effect us?" For getting any company to put that into their list of questions is a pure fucking honor for us. We're getting rid of the $35/mo premium area and charging you people. Everyone that was charged will get access to the Business Premium area instead, or they can be refunded. Whichever. We're also giving back signatures, increasing PM box sizes too. We learned a lot from the charging members for specific areas project. Instead of giving up and moving on, we're applying what has worked to some new projects, and keeping the rest of it free. I hate announcing new services or projects so I just won't do it, until it's ready to be launched in beta mode. The first of many of our current projects will be going into beta this month, so I will post an announcement on that as soon as we're ready to accept people. It will be 100% free for life for users. Thanks to everyone for making WickedFire great. I may not seem like a very socialable guy at conferences or in general, but I know where my loyalty is, and that's with the community here, and to the people that constantly volunteer here to ensure that the content, tips/ideas, humor, and all around news and fun stay up to date and constant. Without you, the WickedFire members or staff, this place would be a ghost town of some guy named Jon typing to himself. So thank you everyone for your support and loyalty, it is VERY much appreciated. Remember too, that this is not a one man show. The staff here works very hard to keep the peace and keep things running smoothly. Without your contributions in terms of content, topics, ideas and suggestions, we wouldn't be able to keep going or growing. At over 220,000 posts, and over 15,000 members with almost zero advertising/marketing on our end, we have to be doing something right within our 1.5 years of existence! Keep it up! Thanks again to everyone, and have a good holiday! Jon __________________ There's someone in my head... but its not me. Skittles - Taste the rainbow... in jail. The Best in shamwow PPC

11-19-2007, 07:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
SUP3RNOVA Goober Gay Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508	good shit. __________________ This guy doesn't know shit about affiliate marketing. True story.

11-19-2007, 07:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
turbolapp Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston, TexASS Posts: 2,945	Group Hug! EDIT: Holy Crap! There's my old sig....awww I'm so happy! Of course it doesn't make sense anymore so I will be changing it __________________ So your earnings methods are slighty shady. Stop worrying about being dropped from your network and go with a network that's actually owned by a black hat. Makes sense, doesn't it?

11-19-2007, 07:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
kamesh Seo Services Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 432	Wow!! I can see a different version of JON, Damn good shit !! PM Limit raised to 100 __________________ :: Send FREE text message in US and Canada :: Check out WF's Best Manual submission Service Best Social bookmarking and Article submission service Contact: AIM: abbycutlet Msn: abbycutlet@hotmail.com email: chandrasekhar.g@gmail.com

11-19-2007, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
MyOwnDemon Face Rocker Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,968	Slick post, Jon... sounds like you're getting soft. Haha. Just kidding man. __________________ I design custom landing pages - $65 each. 900+ LPs designed for WickedFire members. PM me for more details... or check this thread.

11-19-2007, 07:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
droplister Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 240	...so fucking solid...

11-19-2007, 07:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
bam bam Fail. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 845	Anyone else feel hella proud to have gotten through the Newb barrier and actually become a proud WF member? I fucking love this forum! Nicely done Jon and staff. KUDOS!

11-19-2007, 07:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
radio AwesomenessQuotient(High) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 400	Hella Proud! Good shit, Jon!

11-19-2007, 08:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wooody Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 108	I'm on this forum everyday. Learnt a shit load and keep learning a shitload. Guess I better start giving back a bit more.

11-19-2007, 08:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
m0rtal King of the Jungle Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 797	Very well said, this is a great community

11-19-2007, 08:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
barman hoodrich Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,921	How much does this Report cost? $97 ? __________________ be a super affiliate eh join the ppc.bz fan club noob

11-19-2007, 08:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
BlondeTM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: With the exercise nazis Posts: 625	I don't want a refund, I want access to the business premium section so I can hang out with the cool kids (you know...my peers ) I also fit the profile, except I have ethics. Is that a bad thing?

11-19-2007, 08:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Phre0nBurn I <3 JAILBAIT! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona-California Posts: 682	barman - Yes, $97, but you get 47 free ebooks with it as well. For only $50,000 more you can have one-on-one talks with Jon as often as possible for 7 days. Good shit Jon. I have been here for about a year now, I just never felt like being an actual member or saying anything because I had to get used to the environment. I love it, but it is rare. Now that I'm here, FTW. This place rocks... Just created a new thread in appreciation of all of you guys in the Shooting the Shit section...

11-19-2007, 08:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
nachoninja Love the dog Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fleshlightville Posts: 3,275	Nice work, my sig is so shiney again! __________________ Copeac is King

11-19-2007, 09:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
nmwando El africana. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: raleigh Posts: 460	i dont mean to sound like a kiss ass, but honestly setting up something like WF isnt easy. Its like watching Tom brady play lol, setting up filters to members on whats expected is even harder. You can always tell when some "how to make money" dp shitter gets on there and how QUICKLY the members react, love it. Kudos man and to everyone who makes this place the shit and members who have helped me out, correctad, nate, Eli the man Bluehatseo.com . Gracias keep it up. __________________ Carolina Panthers Blog Unlocked Iphones Small Business Laptops MMa Forum

11-19-2007, 10:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Demon Coffee is for closers. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 891	OK everyone, back to work! Hehe nice one Jon __________________ My blog: Aminology Sign up to Advaliant now and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

11-19-2007, 10:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
DomainRealty I'm a Coder Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 625	Jon...you have my utter respect (as if you didn't have it before ) It takes some serious balls to take the shit you took about the charging per month, and although I was not a subscriber, I thank you for weeding out the dumbfucks Jason __________________ COPEAC + NEVERBLUE ADS = MONEY!