New WickedFire Report - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Jon · 11-19-2007, 07:12 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally... our efforts are paying off.

We're probably the only forum that's proud to report this, but we are actually down in traffic, rankings, and indexes across the board.

Why are we so happy about it? Because it means we're getting less newbies, spammers, assholes, scammers, useless and worseless people hitting WickedFire.com!

I've purposely taken steps over the last 8 months to downgrade our search rankings (although we still rank kinda high - #12 instead of #2 for the term 'best boobs' on Google) by not going for keywords that newbies would be more inclined to type in and search for.

We're not against ALL newbies... just the annoying ones or the type that don't make WF material. We used to average 1:25-1:40 newbies would become regular WF members, but most would end up getting banned for doing spam or trolling. Now we're well over the 1:100 mark!

Remember though.. as a newbie you guys have a ton of other forum alternatives to choose from. Hell, there are forums and blogs specifically dedicated to you guys, to "helping you", and selling you on the idea that all you need to do is press some buttons and the ATM will spit out franklins left and right.

Whereas at WickedFire our goal is to be the community resource for more advanced, less ethical webmasters, affiliates, designers, programmers, seo/sem, domainers, etc. The avg skill level of a WickedFire member seems to be in the dead middle. Most of you guys have been around between 1-3 years, most of you have made the switch from part time to full time working for yourselves, most of you have cash to spend in terms of development and marketing, whereas people on say, DP are always trying to get something for free without spending a dime. WickedFire has had less than 10, yes.. UNDER TEN complaints of scammers in our entire 1.5 years of operation. That stat right there is fucking awesome. I think the real number is actually under five if my memory serves me right, but then again, my memory isn't my strongest part, so let's not depend on that.

The average WickedFire member knows their shit. That's the part that I'm the proudest to report. After having conversations with so many of you on a personal and forum level I gotta say, the part I love the most is the sense of pride and humor here. You guys and girls don't take shit from anyone anymore, and you aren't afraid to call someone out right away. Cmon, which other forum prides themself on that shit??? No one, except for us!

This place is so fucking solid that at conferences when affiliate managers and company staffers/owners speak to me, and tell me that they read WF all the time, but are TOO AFRAID to post because they don't want to get their asses handed right back to them, that says RESPECT. Maybe a bit of fear too, but look what we've done. We've caused the industry to take a step back and consider that "wait a second, if we say this or that, will WickedFire catch us, and if they do, how badly will it effect us?" For getting any company to put that into their list of questions is a pure fucking honor for us.

We're getting rid of the $35/mo premium area and charging you people. Everyone that was charged will get access to the Business Premium area instead, or they can be refunded. Whichever. We're also giving back signatures, increasing PM box sizes too.

We learned a lot from the charging members for specific areas project. Instead of giving up and moving on, we're applying what has worked to some new projects, and keeping the rest of it free.

I hate announcing new services or projects so I just won't do it, until it's ready to be launched in beta mode. The first of many of our current projects will be going into beta this month, so I will post an announcement on that as soon as we're ready to accept people. It will be 100% free for life for users.

Thanks to everyone for making WickedFire great. I may not seem like a very socialable guy at conferences or in general, but I know where my loyalty is, and that's with the community here, and to the people that constantly volunteer here to ensure that the content, tips/ideas, humor, and all around news and fun stay up to date and constant. Without you, the WickedFire members or staff, this place would be a ghost town of some guy named Jon typing to himself. So thank you everyone for your support and loyalty, it is VERY much appreciated.

Remember too, that this is not a one man show. The staff here works very hard to keep the peace and keep things running smoothly. Without your contributions in terms of content, topics, ideas and suggestions, we wouldn't be able to keep going or growing. At over 220,000 posts, and over 15,000 members with almost zero advertising/marketing on our end, we have to be doing something right within our 1.5 years of existence! Keep it up!

Thanks again to everyone, and have a good holiday!

Jon

SUP3RNOVA · 11-19-2007, 07:18 PM

good shit.

droplister · 11-19-2007, 07:28 PM

...so fucking solid...

bam bam · 11-19-2007, 07:36 PM

Anyone else feel hella proud to have gotten through the Newb barrier and actually become a proud WF member?

I fucking love this forum!

Nicely done Jon and staff. KUDOS!

turbolapp · 11-19-2007, 07:45 PM

Group Hug!

EDIT: Holy Crap! There's my old sig....awww I'm so happy!

Of course it doesn't make sense anymore so I will be changing it

radio · 11-19-2007, 07:49 PM

Hella Proud! Good shit, Jon!

kamesh · 11-19-2007, 07:51 PM

Wow!! I can see a different version of JON, Damn good shit !!

PM Limit raised to 100

MyOwnDemon · 11-19-2007, 07:54 PM

Slick post, Jon... sounds like you're getting soft. Haha. Just kidding man.

Wooody · 11-19-2007, 08:09 PM

I'm on this forum everyday. Learnt a shit load and keep learning a shitload. Guess I better start giving back a bit more.

m0rtal · 11-19-2007, 08:13 PM

Very well said, this is a great community

barman · 11-19-2007, 08:14 PM

How much does this Report cost? $97 ?

BlondeTM · 11-19-2007, 08:48 PM

I don't want a refund, I want access to the business premium section so I can hang out with the cool kids (you know...my peers

)

I also fit the profile, except I have ethics. Is that a bad thing?

Phre0nBurn · 11-19-2007, 08:50 PM

barman - Yes, $97, but you get 47 free ebooks with it as well.

For only $50,000 more you can have one-on-one talks with Jon as often as possible for 7 days.

Good shit Jon. I have been here for about a year now, I just never felt like being an actual member or saying anything because I had to get used to the environment. I love it, but it is rare.
Now that I'm here, FTW. This place rocks...

Just created a new thread in appreciation of all of you guys in the Shooting the Shit section...

nachoninja · 11-19-2007, 08:56 PM

Nice work, my sig is so shiney again!

nmwando · 11-19-2007, 09:29 PM

i dont mean to sound like a kiss ass, but honestly setting up something like WF isnt easy. Its like watching Tom brady play lol, setting up filters to members on whats expected is even harder. You can always tell when some "how to make money" dp shitter gets on there and how QUICKLY the members react, love it.

Kudos man and to everyone who makes this place the shit and members who have helped me out, correctad, nate, Eli the man Bluehatseo.com

. Gracias keep it up.

Demon · 11-19-2007, 10:23 PM

OK everyone, back to work!

Hehe nice one Jon

DomainRealty · 11-19-2007, 10:29 PM

Jon...you have my utter respect (as if you didn't have it before

) It takes some serious balls to take the shit you took about the charging per month, and although I was not a subscriber, I thank you for weeding out the dumbfucks

Jason

hwy24 · 11-19-2007, 10:35 PM

good shiz thanks for breathing some life back into WF

katoved · 11-19-2007, 11:11 PM

In honor of this post, I will take the time tonight to finally upload the much anticipated, "I call out an online get rich scam artist - at a Donald Trump Learning Annex" and ask the scammer if he known about Wickedfire. Congrats Jon on your shitty growth and SEO results!

rileypool · 11-19-2007, 11:49 PM

My favorite part,

"This place is so fucking solid that at conferences when affiliate managers and company staffers/owners speak to me, and tell me that they read WF all the time, but are TOO AFRAID to post because they don't want to get their asses handed right back to them, that says RESPECT. Maybe a bit of fear too, but look what we've done. We've caused the industry to take a step back and consider that "wait a second, if we say this or that, will WickedFire catch us, and if they do, how badly will it effect us?" For getting any company to put that into their list of questions is a pure fucking honor for us."

RuDeDoGg · 11-19-2007, 11:53 PM

Cheers bitches!

Xrproto · 11-20-2007, 12:06 AM

God damnit! I spent 400$ on this!

Fuck...

JamesH · 11-20-2007, 12:43 AM

Glad to hear it.

springer · 11-20-2007, 12:59 AM

Thanks Jon. Apparently, we're all happy to be part of your little extended family. We're all in the will, right?

Holy shit, my sig is back and man, is it ever outdated. I'll put it on my list of things to ignore for a while.

Oh yeah, PS. Can you look into getting ::emp:: a new guide badge? He lost his and is feeling kinda naked without it. Poor guy. Thanks.

agua · 11-20-2007, 01:11 AM

Quote:

I've purposely taken steps over the last 8 months to downgrade our search rankings

Mate - you should off called me - it would have only taken me 8 days looking at record in the Search World

lazyleo · 11-20-2007, 01:12 AM

"If you're not tough it's hard to survive in this world; and if you're not kind then you don't deserve to survive." -- Raymond Chandler

Supergeek · 11-20-2007, 01:30 AM

Cheers!

kingfish · 11-20-2007, 01:35 AM

I gotta say FUCK YEAH man good job to all of you and thank you for running WF

stmadeveloper · 11-20-2007, 02:03 AM

Jon - I asked in another thread if there was a point to upgrading at this point - should we?

I'm slow today I suppose

- Last time I paid attention you changed formats to the paid version, told us to hold off - and haven't heard anything else.

Hell - don't have a problem upgrading, spend enough time in here - but I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering.

ed146 · 11-20-2007, 03:00 AM

Thanks for all the great info. Learned more from this forum in a month than year looking at other forums.

Again, thanks!

colts · 11-20-2007, 03:04 AM

With a doubt this place has more real earners dropping real knowledge than any other place on the net.

Houdas · 11-20-2007, 03:30 AM

This place rocks so hard it's unbelievable. Congrats to Jon, the staff and all regular members for keeping it real. I wanna buy you all an e-beer!

imagenesis · 11-20-2007, 08:11 AM

That made me proud to be a ghost here. Its amazing. Now that I think about it, it would have been very hard for a 17 year old to learn about everything.

Uzzz · 11-20-2007, 10:02 AM

hip hip...hurray?

maverick · 11-20-2007, 10:14 AM

Well done!

argh01 · 11-20-2007, 12:24 PM

Is this why I can now have 100 private messages? Rock On!

_poto_ · 11-20-2007, 01:05 PM

rockin

I do dig this place... this is one of the few mainstream biz boards I've ever felt comfortable enough to post on...

MDSandB · 11-20-2007, 02:21 PM

Nice way to put across your failure of driving traffic on your forum......

LazyHippy · 11-21-2007, 06:04 AM

Coolio. Nice one.. and I was just about to re-subscribe as well.

Now, who wants some free YSM credit?? hehe
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11-19-2007, 07:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 07:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 07:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 07:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 07:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 07:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 08:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wooody Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 110 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm on this forum everyday. Learnt a shit load and keep learning a shitload. Guess I better start giving back a bit more. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-19-2007, 08:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
m0rtal King of the Jungle Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,300 iTrader: 39 / 100%	Very well said, this is a great community Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-19-2007, 08:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 08:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
BlondeTM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: With the exercise nazis Posts: 624 iTrader: 8 / 100%	I don't want a refund, I want access to the business premium section so I can hang out with the cool kids (you know...my peers ) I also fit the profile, except I have ethics. Is that a bad thing? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-19-2007, 08:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Phre0nBurn I <3 JAILBAIT! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona-California Posts: 687 iTrader: 1 / 100%	barman - Yes, $97, but you get 47 free ebooks with it as well. For only $50,000 more you can have one-on-one talks with Jon as often as possible for 7 days. Good shit Jon. I have been here for about a year now, I just never felt like being an actual member or saying anything because I had to get used to the environment. I love it, but it is rare. Now that I'm here, FTW. This place rocks... Just created a new thread in appreciation of all of you guys in the Shooting the Shit section... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-19-2007, 08:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 09:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 10:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 10:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 10:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 11:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
katoved Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,314 iTrader: 2 / 75%	In honor of this post, I will take the time tonight to finally upload the much anticipated, "I call out an online get rich scam artist - at a Donald Trump Learning Annex" and ask the scammer if he known about Wickedfire. Congrats Jon on your shitty growth and SEO results! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-19-2007, 11:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
rileypool paper clique fiend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,303 iTrader: 5 / 100%	My favorite part, "This place is so fucking solid that at conferences when affiliate managers and company staffers/owners speak to me, and tell me that they read WF all the time, but are TOO AFRAID to post because they don't want to get their asses handed right back to them, that says RESPECT. Maybe a bit of fear too, but look what we've done. We've caused the industry to take a step back and consider that "wait a second, if we say this or that, will WickedFire catch us, and if they do, how badly will it effect us?" For getting any company to put that into their list of questions is a pure fucking honor for us." Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ RileyPool.com - Ain't no shame in my PPC game! POFPrimer.com - The #1 Guide to Make Money Online by Advertising on PlentyofFish.com!

11-19-2007, 11:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 12:06 AM	#22 (permalink)
Xrproto Waste of e-space Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,882 iTrader: 4 / 100%	God damnit! I spent 400$ on this! Fuck... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I can assure you I am as insane as the next man.

11-20-2007, 12:43 AM	#23 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 12:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
springer I AM the shit! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 696 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Thanks Jon. Apparently, we're all happy to be part of your little extended family. We're all in the will, right? Holy shit, my sig is back and man, is it ever outdated. I'll put it on my list of things to ignore for a while. Oh yeah, PS. Can you look into getting ::emp:: a new guide badge? He lost his and is feeling kinda naked without it. Poor guy. Thanks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings!

11-20-2007, 01:12 AM	#26 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 01:30 AM	#27 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 01:35 AM	#28 (permalink)
kingfish Champion of Awesome Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,284 iTrader: 6 / 100%	I gotta say FUCK YEAH man good job to all of you and thank you for running WF Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-20-2007, 02:03 AM	#29 (permalink)
stmadeveloper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,641 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Jon - I asked in another thread if there was a point to upgrading at this point - should we? I'm slow today I suppose - Last time I paid attention you changed formats to the paid version, told us to hold off - and haven't heard anything else. Hell - don't have a problem upgrading, spend enough time in here - but I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Black Hat SE0 and SE1 Digest

11-20-2007, 03:00 AM	#30 (permalink)
ed146 Still Hustlin' Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 425 iTrader: 14 / 100%	Thanks for all the great info. Learned more from this forum in a month than year looking at other forums. Again, thanks! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-20-2007, 03:04 AM	#31 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 03:30 AM	#32 (permalink)
Houdas Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 576 iTrader: 6 / 88%	This place rocks so hard it's unbelievable. Congrats to Jon, the staff and all regular members for keeping it real. I wanna buy you all an e-beer! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-20-2007, 08:11 AM	#33 (permalink)
imagenesis sup Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 312 iTrader: 0 / 0%	That made me proud to be a ghost here. Its amazing. Now that I think about it, it would have been very hard for a 17 year old to learn about everything. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-20-2007, 10:02 AM	#34 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 10:14 AM	#35 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 12:24 PM	#36 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 01:05 PM	#37 (permalink)
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