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Old 08-11-2006, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How do you operate your business in terms of legal structure, accounting, taxes, etc....? EIN numbers and # of AdSense accounts?
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Will it be profitable?
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There are tons of questions to ask yourself, and it also depends on how you plan to make money from it. Is it going to be affiliate marketing? Arbitrage? CPM? Content site? Forum? etc..
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How do you operate your business in terms of legal structure, accounting, taxes, etc....? EIN numbers and # of AdSense accounts?
That is one tough question..

But I have a simple answer. Hire an accountant, and let him/her handle those headaches for you. When you sign up to any ad network to get paid, always use your company's EIN and name. Open a business account, and the accountant will keep track of everything for you, so you can do what you know, which is make money.

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When using Adwords and Overture, how do u successfully do arbitrage? It seems that the profit margin is so slim, or non-existent, that it rarely is effective.
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Is PPC arbitrage going to be a hard place for newbies to start? Should they first venture around in other places before fiddling with PPC arbitrage? When making an arbitrage site, does it need to have a lot of pages, or is better to throw up fewer pages?
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when creating content for niche markets, and taking into account that any of the content written is relevant, keyword rich, etc., are you better to have X number of lonnnng articles or xxx number of shorter articles? the lonnnng articles could have links to anchors on the page.

i'm not sure if i should just whip out a bunch of 250-500 word articles or write bigger ones that might be more useful.
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First I do market research on the particular niche. Things I look for is offline mostly.
Will it be profitable?
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Are people bidding high on the engines for it ($3+ per click)?
How many competitors are there?
How much work is potentially involved?

There are tons of questions to ask yourself, and it also depends on how you plan to make money from it. Is it going to be affiliate marketing? Arbitrage? CPM? Content site? Forum? etc..
Not sure if that was a thinking question or one for me to answer. It will be content the one I'm really looking into.

I will have to check back on Monday. Thanks.
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ppc arbiturage, site flipping, traditional affiliate marketing, mfa content sites, etc.?

Hands down, PPC Arbitrage. You can have everything setup in an hour or less. The best part about it is that it follows that guy "Ronco"'s famous line "Set it and forget it". Because all you need to do is setup the keyword niche on the engines, put cash into the account, set it and forget it. And just repeat over and over until you are tired of doing it or feel satisfied in the cash flow.
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When using Adwords and Overture, how do u successfully do arbitrage? It seems that the profit margin is so slim, or non-existent, that it rarely is effective.
I don't use either of those for arbitrage.
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Wow, what search engines are u using for arbitrage? It seems that everything else out there is of such low quality and such insignificant numbers.
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Typically business magazine or best yet is WSJ (Wall Street Journal). I look at industries, how they are doing and how they have done up until now. I also search around for information on what the experts are saying about them. If you can't find an answer, there are hundreds of message boards for this and you can just ask investment guys there what they think. Generally speaking, you'll get a lot of positive responses for the industry because people think you are going to be buying stock.
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Is PPC arbitrage going to be a hard place for newbies to start? Should they first venture around in other places before fiddling with PPC arbitrage? When making an arbitrage site, does it need to have a lot of pages, or is better to throw up fewer pages?
The best way for a newbie to get started, is to start small. A typical newbie is short on time, cash, and knowledge. You don't want to blow your entire campaign on just a guess. Trial and error is your best bet. Make 2-3 pages for one niche, and make a campaign targeting each one seperately. Spend maybe $10 a day on each campaign and just fine tune the ads so that you are getting a great CTR and most importantly a high ROI.
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Typically business magazine or best yet is WSJ (Wall Street Journal). I look at industries, how they are doing and how they have done up until now. I also search around for information on what the experts are saying about them. If you can't find an answer, there are hundreds of message boards for this and you can just ask investment guys there what they think. Generally speaking, you'll get a lot of positive responses for the industry because people think you are going to be buying stock.
Wow Jon. That's golden information there. Thank you.
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The porn network I had. Stayed on Google for 2 years, had over 250 domains, with hundreds of thousands of pages. I dominated that entire porn niche for those entire two years too. Made a ton of cash, and after that I too a year off to quit adult and get into mainstream.
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Lets say, hypothetically speaking of course, that you just had like the best domain name ever dumped in your lap.

What would you do to monetize it? Adsense? Selling Ad Space? Affiliate Programs? A crafty combination of all three? What, in your opinion, makes the most money for a domain like that.

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The best way for a newbie to get started, is to start small. A typical newbie is short on time, cash, and knowledge. You don't want to blow your entire campaign on just a guess. Trial and error is your best bet. Make 2-3 pages for one niche, and make a campaign targeting each one seperately. Spend maybe $10 a day on each campaign and just fine tune the ads so that you are getting a great CTR and most importantly a high ROI.
wow..this is so fun, making my heart beat fast. i'm constantly pushing refresh! ah, ok stop wasting your time...

umm. as for PPC arbitrage again, niche selecting is obviously very very important. Is there any set niches that you recommend us stay away from if we do venture into arbitrage,...maybe even better, what niches to venture into? have you ever lost money from arbitrage?
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when creating content for niche markets, and taking into account that any of the content written is relevant, keyword rich, etc., are you better to have X number of lonnnng articles or xxx number of shorter articles? the lonnnng articles could have links to anchors on the page.

i'm not sure if i should just whip out a bunch of 250-500 word articles or write bigger ones that might be more useful.
I would stick with 250-350 word articles about one specific keyword or topic. You want to be able to give as much information as possible surrounding that one topic so that you can ultimately rank well for it. Be sure to focus on header tags, title tags, and overall keyword placement within the article. Don't overdo it either, because you never know how the algo's will change in the long run. Also toss in a few links pointing to that page from VERY relevant articles, sites or best of all, blogs. Maybe do a free press release on it. Although it may never get read, it will be indexed and will count when major updates are done.
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Lets say, hypothetically speaking of course, that you just had like the best domain name ever dumped in your lap.

What would you do to monetize it? Adsense? Selling Ad Space? Affiliate Programs? A crafty combination of all three? What, in your opinion, makes the most money for a domain like that.

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Market research is your best friend and by far your first priority. Your questions are far too general, and I'm not going to other threads now.

To monetize any site, you first need to see what everyone else is doing to get a good idea on how things are working for them. Then you need to pinpoint the top 10 big wigs on the engines who are really making bank and incorporate all of their tactics (after much research of course) and create your own method for success. This may take a while, but if your domain is so great and brandable (easy to remember) then you will do very well in just a few months time.
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wow..this is so fun, making my heart beat fast. i'm constantly pushing refresh! ah, ok stop wasting your time...

umm. as for PPC arbitrage again, niche selecting is obviously very very important. Is there any set niches that you recommend us stay away from if we do venture into arbitrage,...maybe even better, what niches to venture into? have you ever lost money from arbitrage?
Yes, stay away from the stupid mesothelioma crap. It's a red flag on Adsense now, because there was a huge surger of bullshit clicks and traffic for a fairly small industry. The only reason they payout so large per click is because every potential lawsuit and settlement is worth millions to them.
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Do you do any PPC arbitrage straight to supplied landing pages? Or do you always put up your own site and have ads?

Mainly in reference to lead based offers like free offers that just require an email address.
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The porn network I had. Stayed on Google for 2 years, had over 250 domains, with hundreds of thousands of pages. I dominated that entire porn niche for those entire two years too. Made a ton of cash, and after that I too a year off to quit adult and get into mainstream.
Here's my cheeky question, how much did you make with the porn network during the two year period? (I ask because I intend to dominate a fairly new niche using hundreds of blogs and cloaking similar to your porn network.)
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For niche sites with 250-300 word articles, where is the best place to put contextual ads for the highest CTR?
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Mainly in reference to lead based offers like free offers that just require an email address.
I have my own pages custom made. You can do the affiliate link stuff if you really want. From what I've seen it does just as well.
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Maybe this isn't the right time and place to be asking this, but how and when did you start making money online?
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Here's my cheeky question, how much did you make with the porn network during the two year period? (I ask because I intend to dominate a fairly new niche using hundreds of blogs and cloaking similar to your porn network.)
Millions upon millions of Yen.
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The answer to that is on the about me section of my blog -- www.aojon.com
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So for PPC arbitrage you will always stick with your theory of buying low and selling high? You will generally stay away from Google adwords?
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Hehe, i'm trying to think of questions! my brain is going crazy, i know i have a lot of PPC arbitrage questions!
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So for PPC arbitrage you will always stick with your theory of buying low and selling high? You will generally stay away from Google adwords?
Yes, because that lowers profit margins like crazy. Why settle for 2:1 when you can be doing 6:1-8:1 on avg with cheaper traffic?
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Do you use any "formula" to calculate what will be a good niche for PPC arbitrage?
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That was sorta answered already with that how to pick a niche question on the first page of this thread I believe.


The only "formula" I can think of... if it's an expensive keyword, then it's worth doing.
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I'm too busy doing research on the big domain sites to see how they make money. ;P I don't know if I should advise the person I'm working with to turn www.domains.org into a registrar or make it an informational resource and sell advertising. I'm leaning toward the latter.

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yeah jon, you are amazing..ill let others ask questions now...and just sit and watch
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Is that a question? Doesn't look like one!

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