Originally Posted by Hacker

ok then....

That isn't enough to get a pinky finger reattached!


Let alone cancer! Which 1/3rd of us will get in our life! and it isn't always caused by smoking, some people just get it.

Like Breast cancer. or prostate cancer... it just 'happens'

my 20 year old friend had testicular cancer

he lives in australia and could get insurance

Originally Posted by jared

Agreed.

I like how Hacker never addressed my post about privatized institutions and hospitals. Wait, it's because I'm right.

At the end of the day I think 77/78 is a pretty damn good life expectancy. You go ahead and live a couple extra years, but I'll be a lot fucking happier with 15% more of my money.

Originally Posted by turbolapp

I think they should set healthcare systems up like a reward system. The less you use it the more rewarded you are. I had this with a former company I worked for. Basicially I had a 2K allowance for all my small medical bills per year. And the amount left over would roll over into the next year. I could pay doctors bills, prescriptions, whatever with this amount. Basically it kept people from going to the doctor everytime they had a freakin cold asking antibotics or something silly like that. However there was the"catastropic insurance" benefit that if I needed to be hospitilized or whatever that my 2K would go directly to that, I would have to pay out of pocket like 2K more and then they covered the rest. So lets re exam this. If I maintained a healthy life style and conserved my benifits I was rewarded, but even if I got really sick, which can happen to anyone I was covered with very little out of pocket for me (in the scheme of things).

I wish the government would consider something like this.

Originally Posted by turbolapp

Dude stop talking and start reading.

Originally Posted by Insomniac

You're not taking into account that women overall cost more than men. Not every woman wants to drink a bottle of schnapps and pop one out on the couch to save a few dollars. Nor do they want to skip doctors appointments in the first few years of their childs life.

Originally Posted by Hacker

Where did you pull that statistic from? Your ass?

I can reference everyone of my statistics.

Originally Posted by lubber

hacker since America has been asked to save the rest of the free world for the last 100 years if we don't spend the money on our military you will have to learn to wear a burka and remember Iran does not have homosexuals so you would be SOL

Originally Posted by lubber

hacker since America has been asked to save the rest of the free world for the last 100 years if we don't spend the money on our military you will have to learn to wear a burka and remember Iran does not have homosexuals so you would be SOL

Originally Posted by Insomniac

You ever dealt with insurance for employees at all? Ever wonder why full PPO costs more for women than men during their twenties? Ever wonder why that amount increases when the girl is married?

Originally Posted by Insomniac

America ignored the rest of the world dumbass, get it right, America didn't want a single thing to do with WWI or II. Several allies requested help but America ignored them.

Originally Posted by Insomniac

You're not taking into account that women overall cost more than men. Not every woman wants to drink a bottle of schnapps and pop one out on the couch to save a few dollars. Nor do they want to skip doctors appointments in the first few years of their childs life.

Originally Posted by Hacker

15% of your money hey?

I recon america having private health insurance and spending the world average on defence would give you more than 15% back alone!

I only earn money for security reasons, i rarely spend it.

If your one of those people that believes money makes you happy then either
a)you haven't earn't enough yet
or
b) your one of those lame people that always spends, and its always never satisfying.

Originally Posted by Hacker

In a private health system, maybe.

But i know in public health systems men actually cost the most, because they are less likely to want to see a doctor, and therefore get more severe diseases...

like are less likely to get heart disease ditected earlier
less likely to detect cancer

Originally Posted by turbolapp

Sorry I didn't realize I was going to have to get into my whole previous health care plan here :P

Everyone had diffrent allowances. Women got more than men, Families got more than single people. Also women's "well visits" were completely free as was each child's yearly visits.

I am a woman. Do you want to know how much I used of my yearly allowance? Usually no more than 500 dollars. Once they told me I would be financially rewarded for NOT going to the doctor I was like "yeah! I can do that" (I love being finacially rewarded for practical behavior) I would venture to think other Americans would do the same. And like said for the the ones that had no choice and are unhealthy they only had to pay up to 2K out of pocket. That's really not that much to ask for and really does incourage people to only use the resources when they truely need them.

Originally Posted by Insomniac

I was referring to the US system, I might be an Aussie but I'm in Chicago. In public you are probably right, although the amount of time my lady friends in Australia spent at the gyno and doc is ridiculous. I used to only go to the doc for stitches, and even then, that was only if people started complaining to me about my wounds.

Originally Posted by jared

Yes 15%. With all the social programs you are getting off on my taxes would surely go up 10-15%. I'd rather give that 10% to the charity of my choice than give it to the government.

I get tired of fucking supporting 18 year old girls who already have 4 kids (often with another one on the way) and live off my tax money. Let me decide where to sent that shit. And believe me, I'd much rather it go to our defense.