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Old 08-17-2006, 03:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightning Round #4!!!!

Alright boys and girls, as promised, a 30 minute WF Lightning Round!! Remember to tell as many people as you can about it so we can have lots of good questions posted.

There will be another one tomorrow as well, which will be an hour long or more.. So get your shit together and let's make some fucking money!!
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ahh, yes i caught it. gotta go soon, so im glad i caught it

for ppc arbitrage, how many KW's do you use with about how many searches? I ask this because for a niche i picked, maybe it was too narrow or what not, but i am not getting many clicks at all.
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Jon you want to come to vegas? In fact, does anyone want to go to Vegas this weekend?

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What do you use for click fraud program? CTR/ROI/other PPC arbitrage tools?(asrep?) How do you find keywords for your arbitrage sites, do you have an automated script to help you list the keywords?
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I am setting up about 50 websites. The content is almost all the same, but the big difference is that each website is city specific. I am thinking of registering 50 domains, each with a specific city in the URL. Should I do this, or just create one large site with city pages? Additionally, should I put each city on a different hosting account so the IP's arent the same, so I can do cross linking? What would be the most effective cross linking strategy for these 50 sites? I have been told to do one way links with all the sites. So 50 of the sites point to 49, and 49 of the sites point to 48 of them, and 48 of the sites point to 47 of them, etc... So ultimately one site has all of them pointing towards it and it isn't pointing back to any of them. This would be the biggest city, probably LA or NY.
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If you had only $200 to get you started how would you invest it? (ie: one or two arbitrage sites)
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ahh, yes i caught it. gotta go soon, so im glad i caught it

for ppc arbitrage, how many KW's do you use with about how many searches? I ask this because for a niche i picked, maybe it was too narrow or what not, but i am not getting many clicks at all.
I don't like to reveal any information about the projects we do, because every site and niche is it's own animal. Typically you should use only the keywords that will bring in the right amount of traffic for the lowest amount of money spent. You may have to start with a big list and weed out the ones that work and don't work. No one said this was a cakewalk, but compared to other things, it's definitely easy.
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Seperate your questions buddy..
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I am setting up about 50 websites. The content is almost all the same, but the big difference is that each website is city specific. I am thinking of registering 50 domains, each with a specific city in the URL. Should I do this, or just create one large site with city pages? Additionally, should I put each city on a different hosting account so the IP's arent the same, so I can do cross linking? What would be the most effective cross linking strategy for these 50 sites? I have been told to do one way links with all the sites. So 50 of the sites point to 49, and 49 of the sites point to 48 of them, and 48 of the sites point to 47 of them, etc... So ultimately one site has all of them pointing towards it and it isn't pointing back to any of them. This would be the biggest city, probably LA or NY.
I'm not really sure what you are doing, but try and keep your questions as short as possible so that I can answer everyone quickly. I'm not going to visit your domains or tell you what to and not to do, but I'm sure you can generalize what your goal is in a question much shorter than this.
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If I were totally new at it, I'd use the $200 for one site and use the time tested trial and error to come up with a quick and profitable way for arbitrage and niches. This way you aren't biting your nails wondering what the fuck is going on and you have more cash to play around with.
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Thats in Jan 2007. Im going this weekend to party! Anyone want to go? I know about 15 girls from Chicago that coming in to party. They are all around 24 years old.

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I don't look at sites in general, so post this question on the regular forum not during a Lightning Round. It's not fair to everyone else if it takes up too much time.
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I don't use RSSGM, never did, never have and never will. Not sure why people think I'm an expert on something I've never even tried.

If you want backlinks in general to one of these autogenerated sites, blogs is your best and quickest bet to inclusion and ranking. Make sure you keep it relevant and spam free though.
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Absolutely attend that! I am definitley going
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I'm not really sure what you are doing, but try and keep your questions as short as possible so that I can answer everyone quickly. I'm not going to visit your domains or tell you what to and not to do, but I'm sure you can generalize what your goal is in a question much shorter than this.
Alright let me simplify the question for you.

1. If I have 50 websites. So 50 of the sites point to 49, and 49 of the sites point to 48 of them, and 48 of the sites point to 47 of them, etc... So ultimately one site has all of them pointing towards it and this site isn't pointing back to any of them. You could visualize this as a pyramid. Would this be a useful linking strategy, or would it be voided by SE's because they are on the same hosting package?
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I don't have an answer for you, because remember, it also depends on your traffic. The best way is to always create your own landing or sales page. Instead of just using a generic banner or full page ad that every other guy is using, put the offer into your own designed page, and as long as you get the main idea across, your conversions will increase. When it comes down to it at the end of the day, it's all still the same sale, so why not increase your chances of getting it by being creative and unique?
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I don't use RSSGM, never did, never have and never will. Not sure why people think I'm an expert on something I've never even tried.

If you want backlinks in general to one of these autogenerated sites, blogs is your best and quickest bet to inclusion and ranking. Make sure you keep it relevant and spam free though.
Are you using an alternative?
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Right now we are using custom apps. We also use Google Analytics/Urchin and were debating on starting to use WebTrends.. I'm sure there are loads of apps out there to look at. Maybe what you should do is turn this experience into a review site of all of the apps out there, and make some money on the reviews with an affiliate link for other site owners to follow. Ding!
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Thats in Jan 2007. Im going this weekend to party! Anyone want to go? I know about 15 girls from Chicago that coming in to party. They are all around 24 years old.

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I prefer to stay in and make money. That's just me though. I've done my partying stage already and I'm well over it. To each his own.
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Sorry but I don't pick out niches for people. Come on, that's easy shit for you to do on your own, I can't be the babysitter for everyone and do all the work for you as well.
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Is this the begining, peak or downfall of making money online from ppc ads/affliate sales etc.?

Just want to know how much time i have to get my ass into gear before saturation/competetion and all that crap...cheers
This stuff as been around for years. Is it the peak? I don't think that's how this industry works. I think there will always be ways for affiliates to create new markets and make money. Advertisers and merchants love us because we spend the money and they only pay us on CPA when they make money too, why get rid of it?
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jon, how much traffic do you pull in for an average ppc arbitrage site a day?
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How much would you pay for a forum skin to be developed. A general range for a medium - somewhat intensive project?
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Alright let me simplify the question for you.

1. If I have 50 websites. So 50 of the sites point to 49, and 49 of the sites point to 48 of them, and 48 of the sites point to 47 of them, etc... So ultimately one site has all of them pointing towards it and this site isn't pointing back to any of them. You could visualize this as a pyramid. Would this be a useful linking strategy, or would it be voided by SE's because they are on the same hosting package?
Just use one server and stop being a shady bastard!
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Hahahaha - whats so shady?!!??? LOL.
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In your expierence, would setting up a group of sites pertaining to one theme (ie: tv shows, or movies) be a good idea, or should i set up 1 site with different pages to each of the shows/movies?
In reference to what?
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How many man-hours go into launching a new site?

Which parts of the project do you handle personally?
Depends on the type of site, how big or small it is. Typically 1 week on avg from thoughts/ideas to launch. We have inhouse/outsourced designers and programmers that definitely speed up the process.

I handle most of the ideas, marketing, networking. Everything else gets divided up between my partner and our project managers.
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Boooyahhhh Jonny! Here's another humdinger of a question for you.

Does search feed and 7 eleven search bring in quality traffic for you? Additionally, what are the results of your audits and how much of a refund (percentage) are u getting back each month?
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jon, how much traffic do you pull in for an average ppc arbitrage site a day?
Depends on the niche. There is no set golden number.
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We do it ourselves. We only outsource link building. But the link building is made very clear what we want and don't want, and how to keep it relevant.
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If you had to make a call, what is THE most important thing you can do to generate clicks/$$$ with PPC Arbitrage?
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Was Adult internet marketing your first internet venture? If not, what was it?

If you didn't start out doing things in the Adult market at a young age, do you think you would have been successful just as quickly doing anything else?
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$1500 tops. Depends how extensive it is and if it's just design, or development too.
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most traffic sources give estimated traffic for a KW. Take 7 search for instance -- if you do a search for a specific KW and they say that last month they saw 10K searches. We all know the 3rd tier traffic providers can't match the traffic of the top 3, so what numbers are you looking for before you give the green light to test the niche (KW set)?
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Link building is my weakest, and I mean weakest, ability as a webpreneur.

1. What is a good source to outsource your link building on quality/relevant websites?

2. Additionally, how much should you pay the outsourced third party per link?
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