anoko

I didn't realize there were so many crazy fucks here. All the chavs here dissing women really need to find some work to do.

Additionally Jon and whoever else should not have brought Andrea in this shit. At the end of the day Shoe is still her brother so best to leave her out of it.

I see no reason to tell people to stop being monkeys. Fuck...less competition.

RuDeDoGg

This thread's starting to remind me of.....

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geekcognito

Talk about a thread going haywire. Wow. Just wow.

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popeye

This thread should have been called "Ubaidabcd - Expert Guide on How to Kill Your Reputation In one Thread or Less!"

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turbolapp

Popeye, you won't believe this but we actually agree on something. I thought the exact same thing last night when he started his downward spiralling!

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wholesalerat

could be a number of sources typing comments to creatge a diversional melodramtic cork in the matter before our great readers !

ChrisS

Ok that shit gave even me the creeps.

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popeye

Damn, we can't have that! Can we

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geekcognito

My absolute last contribution to this entire trainwreck:

I got curious so I went over to Shoemoney's own "Serps Script" (which is actually pretty handy).

Search Term: "Shoemoney"

Website URL: http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-s...st-camels.html

Google = Position 8

This thread shows up as well directly under it.



/observation

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elime

Apologies for being off topic, but I have a theory.

I'm sure some of you have heard the saying that if two people debate eachother long enough, one of them will eventually compare their opponent to Hitler?

My theory is that if any thread here gets long enough, someone will inevitably post one of those pictures.

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turbolapp

And here I thought it was this picture that will inevitably be posted in every disagreement:

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nachoninja

even my dog is confused

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LotsOfZeros

Geezus, playing the sex card only makes you appear angry and militant.

gdubs12345

Thats ironic

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BlondeTM

You should have read all the deleted stuff. It's the first time I've ever been really creeped out by someone on the boards here.

MisterX and Stanley, you guys rock. Thanks.

aim

This thread is now ranking for Shoe related keywords.

For the integrity of WickedFire, either delete this entire thread or get rid of the moronic comments.

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Jon

I stand behind MisterX's decision to ban him, but I undeleted the posts because he emailed me and wanted to know why he was banned.. well, look at your posts. That's why.

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Jon

Nah, it's actually a different guy this time I think. Lerch and Eli are pretty quick to drop the ban hammer on the infamous WF troll usually. It's not like he makes it hard to find him.

I have a feeling this is a totally different person. Same weird personality, just no hair doll shrines of Eli in his basement.

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Jon

If we take first spot for "Shoemoney" do you think he'll pay us that $1k or $10k he once promised to anyone who could outrank him for "Shoemoney"?

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Amos_

oof. talk about drama. i tend to agree with seocracy, it does seem like jon is overdoing this one. yes we all now know that shoe is full of shit, and following his word like it's gospel is just retarded. i think the hatchet has been burried, and there's no need to continue on. you're just making yourself look as foolish as shoe.

there's always going to be "super affiliates" like shoe, chow, and others. why people continue to follow their word like gospel is a mystery to me.

this whole thing just seems like an ego pissing contest to me. waste of time. worry about yourself not others.

Demon

We might not rank for 'gay webmaster forum', but we are now first and second for 'gay shoemoney forum'!

gay shoemoney forum - Google Search

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Demon

wow, looks like Jon and Shoemoney have some history:

I was wrong.. - From 2006.

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ChrisS

HAHAHA

He'll probably pay you a hell of a lot more than that to make it go away.

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ChrisS

Dude, re-delete those posts. No one wants to read that shit.

I understand that he was probably so drunk that he doesn't remember why he was banned. But still...

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Demon

Wickedfire is first for the misspelt 'shoemoeny'.

And fourth for 'Shoemoney'. Damn, that's not bad at all.

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pfgannon

Agreed, it makes us all look bad.

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dsiomtw

That would just be classic if this thread or some other page on WF ranked #1 or even #2 for "shoemoney". I can see the look on his face now.

Shoemoney, shewmoney, shomoney, shoemuney, shoemoeny shoe muny!

BlondeTM

He would probably be thrilled. This thread is filled with some of the most vulgar crap ever posted towards other members. Anyone doubting if shoemoney is decent or not is going to compare this thread and what it's made of versus shoemoney's blog.

This makes his blog look classy, and helps further his cause as being a believable expert to anyone on the fence about it. At least he's civil.

geekcognito

Sad, but likely true.

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cyberworkspace

far more worse things than this thread have been written on wickedfire.

so this thread will not change the reputation wickedfire already has but altering or changing it will.

why would wickedfire all of a sudden bend over because the taste of the masses might not comply with what is written here?

they definitely should not start censoring here, because that is what others do and that is exactly what wickedfire is not about.

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turbolapp

I agree too.

This thread went to the shitter big time

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ChrisS

Censorship sucks, but you might want to pick your battles a little better.

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_poto_

if you think this is bad you should see some of the stuff posted on the adult industry boards... this thread is tame in comparison to the in depth discussions of reshitting and scat play...

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cyberworkspace

you mean you as in "you, cyberworkspace" or you as in "everybody who is on a warpath in this thread" as i can't recall being in any battle at all here. but maybe i am just confused

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ChrisS

I meant you, but never mind...I don't think we are talking about the same thing.

When turbo and I were talking about how shitty this thread is, we weren't talking about it dissing Shoemoney or anything like that. We're talking about the nasty, creepy shit that a drunk asshole posted last night.

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BlondeTM

But Jon's big fight is all about how he wants WF recognized with these other bloggers and supposed gurus. WF isn't an adult industry board.

I'm not a prude but creepy guys are still creepy guys. There is a time and a place for everything, and forcing it onto people when they are in an IM forum talking about the IM industry isn't the place.

BlondeTM

Yes, but they weren't being used to piggyback off of an industry icon. Like it or not, shoemoney is recognized and it's obvious that ranking for his name would get traffic here.

My point was, that if you're going to steal someone's marketing thunder and try to appeal to their target market...this isn't the right way to do it.

But that's just my opinion on marketing. Random wild linkbait with no purpose or target other than a rant may be the point, and then that isn't marketing. It's just ranting on one of bajillion forums filled with nutjobs.

ChrisS

So...what are you wearing?





I'm kidding...I'm kidding!

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cyberworkspace

well, we must be talking about different things as i can't recall battling anyone, lol.

so what. this forum makes fun of retards, gays and other minorities all the time but just so it happens that someone goes out of line with two female members the whole world turns into shit?

there is always the ignore button, nobody got hurt, everybody can move on now

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A mumu. Flowered. With fuzzy slippers. And curlers. Yeah, that's it.

BlondeTM

But (and I'm just taking the devil's advocate stance here)...

are those retards and gays targeted personally? And if they are , does the gay or retard have a problem with it? And if they do, is this saying that WF is open season on anyone and everyone? Can we act any way we want to account reps, advertisers, new people, trash threads, etc?


No. And the reason is that the mods and admin ban people that are trolls.

Look at the WF troll who targets Eli and SEOMike every single time. He's not around. So bascially, it's not tolerated here. Unless I'm way off base, and it's tolerated for some people but not others (Like Eli or SEOMike)?

ChrisS

Retards and gays don't have delicious boobs, you idiot.

Crap.

I'm part of the problem.

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_poto_

I hear ya... but my point was merely that there have been far worse things posted...

I am fully aware this isn't an adult industry board, but the fact is we are in the IM industry... adult is just my point of reference, since that's where I do most of my biz and where I'm the most comfortable... anyway, it takes a thick skin to survive as a marketer... and while I agree that the creepy psycho sex stuff was uncalled for... sometimes you have to deal with drunken rants like that... that's just life...

the real world isn't all flowers and sunshine ya know...

I really don't think one isolated drunken rant will diminish the industry or reflect poorly on WF... especially since anyone who bothers to read the rest of this thread will see he got banned for those comments...

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BlondeTM

I agreee poto, but it makes it even that more difficult for a women marketer to find a place to discuss IM.

I'm not a noob, I pull in a very decent income through multiple sites. I make more than most men in mainstream jobs. Why should I be thick skinned because I have boobs? Why should I give an inkling of how I make the money I do with drooling idiots that jack off to screen names (and jeez, I don't even have a pic of me here)?

It just sucks. Not completely sure how to articulate it, but it does.

cyberworkspace

i don't know about what those groups actually have to say about being a general synonym for all kinds of human weaknesses or failures but i would assume that they don't embrace it too much to be only named in that context.

however, it does not really matter so much what "they" say, as in the end there is no anonymous mass of gays or retards but just individuals. as much as you don't want to be generalized as being "female", other just don't want to be because of their sexual preference or physical problems.

so, i guess you can pretty much answer that rethorical question yourself

yep. because if there is one exception to the rule, why shouldn't there be open season? why would we allow immorality to happen towards certains groups of people but not to others?

let's be at least honest here: because most people would fear to jump in when there is fun being made of a minority because suddenly you would end up in the center of attention yourself and being made fun of.

so, in all fairness, we either have no rules or we apply all of them, but just to pick the ones that please the masses seems not right at all to me.

well, wickedfire experiences, what lots of other "badass" forums have experiences in the past: too much people suddenly know each other in real life. that takes a bit of the fun away from it, as suddenly more and more people behave more nicer towards each other. wait a few more ASW and suddenly everybody here has only one topic: sunday school in church

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ChrisS

Ok, I'm done.

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xXKingdom_SEOXx

I never bought into his fucking crap, all I hear on forums is shoe money, I check the old chump’s website, don’t notice the different. If you guys say he is a douchebag, then he is one. I have never seen somebody get digitally upset over their own doodoo. I would advise you to stick tuff, he know he can’t win this one, don’t know who Mr. Shoe Money is and frankly don’t care. If you are fishy… you get what fishy gets. That’s a really fakey “legal document” also, probably falsified it, like a little wimp. I don’t buy into you “gurus” crap Mr. Shoemoney, get a new web name also, its not appealing.

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BlondeTM

Good points cyberworkspace. I get what you're saying (even though I still stubbornly want ubacidiotdrunk to be banned forever and his drivel deleted).

BlondeTM

Oy Vey.

cyberworkspace

lol. go back to unfucktarded then

he is probably so ashamed that he might consider burying that nickname anyway

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