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Old 03-17-2008, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ebooks Reverse Funnel System eBook Fun

Some guy working with the Reverse Funnel System emailed me about setting up a JV thing for my blog. This offer is ALL over the place, bloggers seem to love advertising it.

So I figured I'd have some fun and act all serious about it, read on...

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Hello, my name is Tommy Bussey. I am an entrepreneur and internet marketer. I am
currently involved in an outstanding opportunity with some highly experienced
internet marketers such as Ty Coughlin, Don Glanville, and Doug Wellens. I was
on your blog today, and I’m very impressed with how well you’re doing. The
reason I’m contacting you is for a joint venture opportunity. It’s a simple
opportunity, and will require very little of your time. Basically, you will
display a banner, button (or an ad genre of your choice) on your blog in place
of one of your normal ad spots. You will be given a special tracking number and
website to view your ad statistics. For every sale we make through the ad on
your blog, you will receive 50% of the commission. We earn $1,000 per sale,
which means you will earn $500 and we will earn $500. So even if you are
selling ad spaces for $250 a month, if only one sale comes through your ad you
will double the revenue of that ad spot. Currently our product is averaging a
20% conversion rate. Feel free to email me or call me (561.313.6267) with
questions or if you would like to joint venture with me. Thank you for your
time.
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Sure I'll check it out. What's the offer?
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Thanks for your interest. I am partnered with a home business system called Ty Coughlin's Reverse Funnel System. We are partnered with a travel company who pays us the $1,000 commissions. In the past 32 weeks we have made $10 million. Basically, all you would have to do is let me know if you want to do banner, button, rss feed text ad, etc. I will supply you with the ad and a tracking system, this way you can keep an eye on what the ad is doing. At the end of the month I will send you a check for 50% of the commissions that the ad has earned. I figure with the type of traffic your blog gets, this offer goes hand in hand. Please let me know if you'd like to join me. Thanks for your time!
At this point both the format and the email font changed, meaning the first email was just some bullshit automated thing.

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I'm thinking that a good way of promoting this would be to do a review. I see Reverse Funnel Ads all over the net, but a first person review from me to my readers could work out very well, if the product is quality.

If you want to give me a review copy, I can write and in-depth review and if the product works out, I think I could drive a lot of new signups with it.

Let me know,
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Paul, that sounds like an awesome idea. Why don't you give me some areas that you would like to write about and I can send you the details. I think that this will work quite well. Lookin' forward to hearing back from you.
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Well if you're confident enough in the product, I'd go through the program and then write up a detailed report on how I did with it. I wouldn't give out any details on what exactly it is, but I'd explain the type of business I was doing and how much money I really made with it. If I have success with it, you can almost guarantee there will be a TON of signups and full purchases to it.
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Well, Paul, first I must say that I am definitely that confident in the product. However, if you were to actually get into the system our joint venture would jump to a quite larger scale. Instead of you and I both splitting a $1,000 commission, you would make $1,000 for every sale you make (if you'd like to check out our payment plan click here). And the people on my team with your type of knowledge and background are knocking the cover off the ball, one gentleman earned $50,000 in his first month. So if you would like to actually get into the system, you could easily double your income from this joint venture and we could really work together to make something big happen. Man, I'm getting all excited now, I gotta tell you I am a very big thinker and hard worker so this opportunity is just really pumpin' me up! Let me know your thoughts
Now it turns into him trying to pitch me the product and give me bullshit misleading information that some guy just made $50k in his first month.

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I'd definitely give the system a chance with the purpose of being able to give it a detailed, thoughtful, and honest review. The reach my blog has and how targeted the system would be gives us the potential to easily refer 100+ new students.

Let me know what we need to do to continue and give this a shot.
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That would be an incredible number of new students, and being that our conversion rates are so high, I see your prediction as a reality. Also, once you have gotten into the system a little bit, we might be able to team up and get some of the other major bloggers to send out a review to their RSS subscribers. Also, I don't know how much you use Google Adwords, but I have an incredible tool that could help you get your blog even more traffic for .04-.10 a click (of course as partners I'd help you with this for free ...ok, anyways, to move on into the system you are going to have to invest to get into the system (unfortunately I have no way of getting you in otherwise)...but here's what I'm going to do, if you haven't made back your money within 8-12 months, I will pay you $3,000. I can even do a little contract for both of us to have on record if you so desire. If all of this sounds reasonable then click here, you're going to see a picture of my buddy Ty who created this system, right below his pic is a link that says "submit application" I will keep an eye on you as you make your way through the system and I'll give you a call either tonight or tomorrow (most likely tomorrow as it is already sort of late). Man, this is so awesome, anyways I'll talk to you later!
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I wasn't planning on buying the system for myself. I was talking about getting me in the program for free, and then if I have success, I'd do the 50% revshare and promote it to all my readers.
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Oh, well, here's what we can do. I'll help you write a review and I'll give you a domain name to put into the review that way when you send it out you will be able to see how many people click on the link and move through the system. The first link below is to view these stats and the second link is the one you can actually put into the review. This is the best I can do, I hope you're ok with this. Let me know!
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That's not going to work, nobody is going to write a review for me. If you were confident enough in the system to pay me $3,000 if it didn't work, I don't see why you wouldn't just let me in the program when the potential gain for you is 100+ users.
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Paul, there's no reason to get offended, I'm just trying to help both of us. I would let you in the system, but it's just not that easy. Because it is a system the only way for someone to get into it is through payment. I'm not trying to pull a fast one on you, I don't care about your money. I just thought this would be a beneficial joint venture for both of us, I don't understand why it has to be so difficult. I never said I was going to write a review for you, I was thinking you could just ask me some questions and I would give you the facts about the system, but I guess everything I'm offering you just isn't good enough. If there's anything else I can do, let me know. Take care.
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If you're willing to pay me $3,000 if I don't have success, why don't you just pay for me to get in the program? I'm not going to ask questions and have you give me bullshit answers about just another eBook that promises things it does not deliver. My offer was more than generous, I was willing to give your "system" a fair shot and then even blog about it's success and refer thousands of dollars in new affiliates. Instead you just tried to sell me the system yourself, and I'm NOT one of the poor suckers who falls for that shit.
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Dude, I never tried to sell it to you, I just misunderstood what you asked me initially. This is getting ridiculous, I'm really not trying to create drama with something like this. I thought we were going to have a great joint venture, but apparently we are not on the same page with communication. I don't know where you got the notion that this is an eBook, that's certainly the complete opposite of what our system is. Anyways, you seem like you'd rather just not do it, so take care, Paul. Good luck with your blog. And I apologize for upsetting you, that was never my intention.


hahahahahaaaaa

....So he'll pay me $3,000 if the system doesn't work, but he won't just let me go through it for free to post an honest review? Hmmmm....
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I also loved this part:
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I'll help you write a review
"yeah this is my own product but I will help you write an independent review of it"

What a douche.
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Whenever I hear "reverse funnel system" I imagine someone trying to take a dump into an upsidedown plastic funnel. Don't ask me why.
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Can we officially make fun of everyone who has banners of that now?
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So did you ever find out what the product/system was?
I found it kind of odd that there's a link to thousanddollarprofits as well as to payplan.

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I've gotten this email twice now. I thought the first one was automated as well but I am not into advertising "systems". I rather advertise something I currently use or am involved with. I do actually reply with a giant FUCK OFF most of the time. Funny that you decided to fuck with these yangs.

Kinda disappointed. I was expecting a rick roll. What I got was much worse from your link.
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Kinda disappointed. I was expecting a rick roll. What I got was much worse from your link.
After that story, a rickroll at the end would have been epic.
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sounds like a big ass MLM to me
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