Why would anyone on this forum be a democrat??

[tweak50]

Originally Posted by invisible777

Oh, please. Of course, Obama is the answer to everything. If he gets in office, everything will be great starting on day 1.

He has a lot to answer for between now and November.

Were hopeful, not arrogant. Its going to take a long time to fix this mess of a country, but we have to start somewhere.

[xmcp123]

Originally Posted by invisible777

Oh, please. Of course, Obama is the answer to everything. If he gets in office, everything will be great starting on day 1.

He has a lot to answer for between now and November.

...of course it won't be great starting on day 1. There's a lot to fix.
...and yes, he does have a lot to answer between now and November. You see, that's why we have this time before the "election" where people "campaign". While they're "campaigning" they get to clear up confusion, make it more clear where they stand on the "issues", and answer "questions".
Seriously, do you know anyone who DOESNT have a lot to answer by November?

My big question is if McCain will even be around by November.

[invisible777]

Originally Posted by xmcp123

...of course it won't be great starting on day 1. There's a lot to fix.
...and yes, he does have a lot to answer between now and November. You see, that's why we have this time before the "election" where people "campaign". While they're "campaigning" they get to clear up confusion, make it more clear where they stand on the "issues", and answer "questions".
Seriously, do you know anyone who DOESNT have a lot to answer by November?

My big question is if McCain will even be around by November.

I was alluding to Barack Obama's personal associations, such as that with his racist, anti-American friend and spiritual leader of 20 years, and his relationship with terrorists (Bill Moyers). When someone with no record like Obama shows up and wants to be the President, we need to understand where he comes from. As things like Wright and Moyers come to light, we are learning just that.

Anyway, I'm not too worried. Your party is a complete mess right now.

[tweak50]

Originally Posted by invisible777

Your party is a complete mess right now.

Finally! We have come to an agreement.

[invisible777]

Originally Posted by peeon

Give it a rest buddy. Do you also think Obama is a muslim terrorist?

No, I think he's a patriot, and I think he is doing what he thinks is best. What I brought up were perfectly legitimate concerns.

[stmadeveloper]

So wait..., let me get this straight......

If we have a Dem in office increasing taxes, increasing spending, increasing entitlement programs, increasing health care costs, and the same "style" of goverment we have now (with crazy spending and what seems like no control).... we will have?

If we have McCain in office warmongering and increasing the military (but with a democratic congress) we will have?

THIS:

A bigger international debt. (From trade deficits, and borrowing)

A bigger yearly price tag from interest from the point above.

A bigger yearly operating cost for our country while increased taxes slow growth because your taxes are just paying interest on 1.2.3.

As of right now almost all of our income tax goes to nothing more than paying for interest.... (Damn our government needs to call a credit counseling place).

We don't need Obama, Hillary, or McCain.... we need to gather our courage and take our freaking country back. All three of our 'options' are the different ways to fuck things up worse than they are.

In ten years when your waiting in line to get your bread remember that you let it happen to yourself because you wanted to be taken care of from cradle to grave or you let the Republican Party screw things up for the last 8 years......

[AdHustler]

Originally Posted by turbolapp

It's a metaphorical pychological fear, not a physical one.

Thats a lot of big words in one sentence LOL

[popeye]

Originally Posted by xmcp123

Several reasons.

1. My Expenses are as Follows: Cigarettes, Food, Rent, a modest amount of inebriants, Red Bull. I don't really need as much as I make
2. It's insane that people in this country are starving. I can understand not wanting them rollin Cadillacs on 22s or what the fuck ever, but they should get to eat.
3. I have lived in some really nasty areas between high school and college. The people there were not lazy. In many cases they were uneducated, but rarely lazy. Some couldn't get transportation to a job as well. Welcome to Detroit btw, where our gangsters are too poor to buy bullets because there's no work.
4. Minimum wage is not even near what's necessary to live on, even working 50+ hour weeks. Those people work MUCH harder than me. Not smarter, but harder. Oh yeah, and they have to put on pants. I don't.
5. I refuse to punish someone's children because their mother is a lazy and/or stupid.
6. People with money buy shit. They sometimes buy my shit.

If you honestly believe most people on welfare or whatever are "not working", and not working by choice, you're an ignorant prick and need to get the hell out of your basement.

I own brick and morter business that puts me in front of poor people all the time. One thing I have noticed about poor people at least where I live. They all have color TVs and playstations. Poor people that are starving are not handling thier food stamps effectively or they are selling them for drugs/alcohol. Poor people are the ones in Mexico City living in card board huts or the africans that get handfuls of rice to eat daily. If you have a color TV, cable, playstations etc...you are not poor.

Minimum wage is actually one of the reasons for our economic problems at the moment. Wages in alot of states have went up as high as 17%. This along with gas prices are causing alot of food manufatures to up their prices on the food they produce. The only people I know making minimum wage are teens. Even Burger King pays 8 bucks an hour starting out.

[popeye]

Originally Posted by xmcp123

...of course it won't be great starting on day 1. There's a lot to fix.
...and yes, he does have a lot to answer between now and November. You see, that's why we have this time before the "election" where people "campaign". While they're "campaigning" they get to clear up confusion, make it more clear where they stand on the "issues", and answer "questions".
Seriously, do you know anyone who DOESNT have a lot to answer by November?

My big question is if McCain will even be around by November.

Even if Obama had Rebublican ideas, I still coudnt vote for him because I believe him to be an elitist and racist.

[erect]

Originally Posted by stmadeveloper

words ... words ... words

+ for truth

and your suggestion to get us out of this hole would be?

[blackthought286]

I am tired of republicans and the taxes argument. I am definitely not for higher taxes. I am a pure capitalist at heart and I believe competition brings out the best in human beings. But with that being said Reagan and thatcher over in england were true free market believers. The nuts you have now in office are the counter argument to that. They don't have traditional republican values at all.

You want to cut taxes, fine but then you want to ramp up the deficit to levels not seen before in the history of man, that's fucking crazy. Somebody has to pay for this. We are in a global economy, that means our deficit is no longer just us owing ourselves. We have huge debts to china and the middle east. You can not be believer of a free market and give farm subsidies which are causing commodities to sky rocket and also bail out so called banks that are too large to fail. The whole purpose of milton's free market philosphy is that the weak should perish as far as business goes. But as long as your filling the right party's coffers then that doesn't happen. And my tax dollars goes to helping them out. But then on the nightly news all I hear about are people in the ghetto on welfare. What about the welfare I funded for LTCM when the government pulled the same shit. What about the welfare I funded when Bush's brother defrauded people in the Savings and Loan scandels in the late 80's early 90's. I won't even mention Mccain being part of that with the Keaton 5.

I don't have a problem with republican ideology and that's coming from a black man in the middle of harlem. Actually a lot I agree with. But these fuckers that are now ruling the party are far from Reagan republicans. And that's why I will vote democrat. I will vote for the lesser of two evils. Don't get me wrong though I have problems with reagan as well but I believe at the very least he believed in what he was doing. These fuckers not so much.

[BrooklynBlue]

Originally Posted by popeye

Even if Obama had Rebublican ideas, I still coudnt vote for him because I believe him to be an elitist and racist.

How is he an elitist? WTF does that even mean? He had a very modest upbringing, his family had no money or connections (a far, far cry from GWB). Did he end up going to an "elite" college and law school? Yep, because he is smart and worked his ass off to get there, something anyone here should admire.

As for the racism charge - uh, he was raised by a white woman. And did you even listen to his race speech? That was probably the most politically risky and intellectually honest speech on race I've heard from a major politician. Given his racial background, he is uniquely positioned to speak to the racial anxieties felt by blacks & whites alike. And I think he did that superbly, without making excuses or taking any bait. Try to set the context of the Presidential race and Dems vs Reps aside -- if you haven't listened to that speech, you really are doing yourself a disservice.

I'm not even a huge Obama supporter. I'll probably vote for him if he gets the nomination, but he still has a lot to prove before I will feel confident about that.

I don't care if you vote for him or not, but cheap shots like that add nothing to the discussion. Disagree with his politics, sure. That's fair game. But to parrot the moronic smears of Fox News talking heads is just ignorant.

[LazyHippy]

Originally Posted by blackthought286

...You can not be believer of a free market and give farm subsidies which are causing commodities to sky rocket and also bail out so called banks that are too large to fail...

So fucking true.

[stmadeveloper]

Originally Posted by erect

+ for truth

and your suggestion to get us out of this hole would be?

Can't say I have anything great to say.... other than more of a constitutionalist movement being pushed by the people.

We have the right and obligation to stand up and shout *loudly* when our constitution isn't be followed -- the problem is that more than half the damn people in the country have probably never read it and don't have a freaking clue.

Love the Ron Paul "REVOLUTION" as it's made a LOT of new people aware of their civil liberties and responsibilities of government (and what isn't).

[turbolapp]

It's true. You can bitch all you want, attack characters, drag them through the mud, but when it comes down to it, whether you like it or not, you've got three choices.

There's no way in hell I want another republican adminstration in the white house. So it's Obama or Hillary and personally I don't really care which. They both have things that I admire and things that make me cringe, but at least they aren't in the wrong party.

[DewChugr]

I see this often around here. Some dude with his three kids and woman pull into the parking lot of walmart rollin phat in their cady/impala/whatever with the big ass stereo thumpin, big ass chrome rims and hoping all of the handicap parking and space right in front of the store aren't taken cause their to f'n lazy to even walk from a parking space. Get out of the car with their new saggy ass clothes and new nikes, fake jewelry, talkin on their cell and all. Then they go in and use their food stamps. Happens A LOT around here. I have a real problem with my money helping them in any way shape or form.

If food costs go up 20% and gas goes to 5 or 6 bucks a gallon I'm not going to get a nice big raise to cover my expenses. I have a real problem with local, state and federal gov increasing tax rates, be it income, food, real estate, or whatever. I would guess the average employee gets a pay increase every year or two, not everyone. If I get a raise, so does the government since I will pay more in taxes. If the government needs more money they need to figure out how to get more people working or making more moey.

I'd vote against anyone that wants to raise my taxes. They need to figure out how to make do with what they have just like the rest of us.

[invisible777]

Originally Posted by BrooklynBlue

How is he an elitist? WTF does that even mean? He had a very modest upbringing, his family had no money or connections (a far, far cry from GWB). Did he end up going to an "elite" college and law school? Yep, because he is smart and worked his ass off to get there, something anyone here should admire.

As for the racism charge - uh, he was raised by a white woman. And did you even listen to his race speech? That was probably the most politically risky and intellectually honest speech on race I've heard from a major politician. Given his racial background, he is uniquely positioned to speak to the racial anxieties felt by blacks & whites alike. And I think he did that superbly, without making excuses or taking any bait. Try to set the context of the Presidential race and Dems vs Reps aside -- if you haven't listened to that speech, you really are doing yourself a disservice.

I'm not even a huge Obama supporter. I'll probably vote for him if he gets the nomination, but he still has a lot to prove before I will feel confident about that.

I don't care if you vote for him or not, but cheap shots like that add nothing to the discussion. Disagree with his politics, sure. That's fair game. But to parrot the moronic smears of Fox News talking heads is just ignorant.

Just because Fox News isn't 100% liberal 100% of the time doesn't mean their talking heads don't bring good points to the table.

Here's what you do. You take the point they bring up, research it on your own and draw your own conclusions. Sometimes what they have to say is unsubstantiated or loosely substantiated horseshit. Other times, as in the case of Obama's links with a known terrorist and his racist and America-hating friend, the link is pretty clear. Sure, it's stuff you won't EVER see in The New York Times or on MSNBC, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Like I said, Obama has a lot to clear up between now and November, and with something like 1/3 of all Hillary supporters saying they'll go to McCain when she drops, "Obama" will just be remembered as one of the greatest political campaign failures of all time.

[popeye]

Obama surronds himself with racist. His spiratuak leader, his friends even his wife.

I know that I woundnt marry a member of the KKK and accept David Duke as my spiratual leader.

Like my wise grandmother once said: birds of a feather stick together!!

[nickycakes]

Originally Posted by popeye

Obama surronds himself with racist. His spiratuak leader, his friends even his wife.

I know that I woundnt marry a member of the KKK and accept David Duke as my spiratual leader.

Like my wise grandmother once said: birds of a feather stick together!!

I think we've well established your political opinion to be worthless by now. Feel free to stop posting whenever.

[mason]

repubs had their chance and they screwed it up. Plus, the restrictions on stem cell research among other things is really pissing me off. If bush cares about preserving life so much why go to war? wtf...

[AdHustler]

Originally Posted by DewChugr

I see this often around here. Some dude with his three kids and woman pull into the parking lot of walmart rollin phat in their cady/impala/whatever with the big ass stereo thumpin, big ass chrome rims and hoping all of the handicap parking and space right in front of the store aren't taken cause their to f'n lazy to even walk from a parking space. Get out of the car with their new saggy ass clothes and new nikes, fake jewelry, talkin on their cell and all. Then they go in and use their food stamps.

So you follow them from the parking lot, wait for them to pick out their food, decide which bread has the most fiber....then you walk behind them and stand in line.....then you watch them take out their "Food stamps" which typically looks like a credit card that you scan through the machine? Damn....what are you from the FBI or something. If i had someone following me like that i'd punch them in the nutz.

[spock49]

democrats, republicans, independents. does it really matter when there are 50 lobbyists for each senator? almost everyone has a private agenda to line their pockets when they retire to their comfortable speaking engagements, cushy corporate boardroom positions, etc.

just look up caryle and see how many ex US presidents are members. good 'ol billy made over $20 mil in speaking engagements! who paid him to listen to how he jabbed cigar up some chick? maybe he was giving out tips on how to beat prosecution for perjury when he said "i did not have sex with that woman"? what about those whitewater files that allegedly went missing for sometime and turned up in hillary's closet at the whitehouse?

i am an equal opportunity prick. as a registered republican, i really hate the right-wing "neo cons" as much as i hate the left-wing liberals nut jobs.

i know that "power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely." republicans have done a royal job of screwing around; democrats didn't want to serve America, they wanted to serve their fucking "party" by undermining whatever republicans were doing.

at the end of the day, it's not about being an elephant or a donkey; it should be about what America stands for to the rest of the world. yeah, we have our share of faults, but what other country can say they are better than the good 'ol USA? france? uk? russia?

vote with your conscience and let the best "man" win . before you jump on my balls about me being a sexist, let the record show that i would vote for any women, pretty or ugly, big boobs or small boobs, white/black/yellow/red/green or whatever, as long as it's not hillary.

either way, just say "no" to fucking bush or clinton dynasties.

[Unarmed Gunman]

Originally Posted by popeye

Minimum wage is actually one of the reasons for our economic problems at the moment. Wages in alot of states have went up as high as 17%. This along with gas prices are causing alot of food manufatures to up their prices on the food they produce. The only people I know making minimum wage are teens. Even Burger King pays 8 bucks an hour starting out.

The price of a whopper isn't what's fucking up the economy right now. Minimum wage has nothing to do with the war, the price of fuel or the housing crisis.

[yoey]

Whoever votes republican is a fucking idiot. What these morons don't understand is that with our deficit, we have to raise taxes AT SOME TIME to balance the fucking country.

Excuse my language, but anyone voting for a republican after this administration is beyond me. McCain is either as bad or worse than Bush.

Originally Posted by popeye

Obama surrounds himself with racist. His spiratuak leader, his friends even his wife.

Oh, and this is in contrast to McCain's pastor who blamed Hurricane Katrina on the sins of homosexuals, or that says we should attack Iran to fulfill a bible prophecy. Yes, that is much worse!

And when has his wife said anything racist? Take your head out of your ass and quit repeating fox news talking points like a dumb neocon parrot.

[DruSam]

Even if McCain doesn't directly tax the American public, he will still tax them through inflation. To pay for all of our current programs and wars, massive amounts of money will have to be borrowed from banks, like the Federal Reserve, or foreign banks in China. This increases the money supply and contributes to the loss of value in our dollar. This is why milk becomes too expensive for Grandma to buy every week.

oh yeah, and eventually you have to pay off the borrowed money. This is why the income tax was made.

[yoey]

Originally Posted by DruSam

Even if McCain doesn't directly tax the American public, he will still tax them through inflation.

Excellent point.If we have to raise taxes to fix our economy and deficit (because of borrowing so much money from an illegal war), then so be it. I'm willing to help rebuild the country I love so much and has allowed me to make alot of money and live freely. I am not a selfish asshole who only looks out for myself.

I just find it funny that republicans like to flaunt like they are all patriotic, but want to run for cover when their country needs help.

[Janaic]

I'm just going to be honest, everyone perspectives on who should be elected are different, so why continue to fight about "whos more qualified" etc.

Oh ya, who fucking cares?

[stmadeveloper]

But we don't have to raise taxes to pay for things.... we WASTE billions the longer we don't live by a balanced budget.

You are willing to raise your taxes to balance things when THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING THEM FROM CONTINUING SPENDING.

Would I be cool with a tax raise now? NO

Would I (and many others) be cool with a temporary tax raise to reduce/eliminate the deficit with guaranteed spending controls in place? YES

To sit passively back and encourage a tax increase with out FORCED change is plain stupid.

Until we have campaign finance reform, term limits, lobbying reform that is good for America, government required to spend BELOW it's means, less entitlement, etc... you might as well just flush whatever your paying down your toilet or give it to nickeycakes

[erect]

Originally Posted by peeon

These fucking middle red neck pos states. How can we get rid of the people that live there?

Originally Posted by nickycakes (but redirected to peeon)
I think we've well established your political opinion to be worthless by now. Feel free to stop posting whenever.



If taxes get raised by whoever gets elected, it's just a free ticket for the gov't to spend more liberally (whether conservative or liberal president). We need to do away with both parties, they are all spoon fed brats.

[Sawya]

I just think there is something sociopathic about standing by and watching someone suffer or maybe even die because they can't afford a treatment.

[tweak50]

Originally Posted by nickycakes

I think we've well established your political opinion to be worthless by now. Feel free to stop posting whenever.

Wow. Best post EVER. Someone had to say it.

[popeye]

Originally Posted by peeon

OMG I can't even fit in how many +1 I would give you. These fucking middle red neck pos states. How can we get rid of the people that live there?




GUESS WHAT POPEYE... Bush has spent so much fucking $, higher taxes are inevitable, McCain, Clinton, Obama will all be forced to raise taxes, I promise.

Why is it that liberals can't listen to an opposing veiws without shittin themselves to the point of having to bash someone that doesnt believe the way they do???

What is funny is that you share the same attitude as the elitist Obama and all the rest of the Liberals. You and him are so smart and so above any "redneck". That is why he WILL NOT be voted in. See their are more of us middle red state rednecks voting then their are fag Liberals.

I guess at least you will have 8 more years to bash the republicans and maybe even you and Cindy Sheehan can hang out together and sing songs and shit.

[BeerHat]

I think it's funny the American poor population has an obesity problem. Just think about that for a second.

[tweak50]

Originally Posted by popeye

Why is it that liberals can't listen to an opposing veiws without shittin themselves to the point of having to bash someone that doesnt believe the way they do???

What is funny is that you share the same attitude as the elitist Obama and all the rest of the Liberals. You and him are so smart and so above any "redneck". That is why he WILL NOT be voted in. See their are more of us middle red state rednecks voting then their are fag Liberals.

I guess at least you will have 8 more years to bash the republicans and maybe even you and Cindy Sheehan can hang out together and sing songs and shit.

Your the biggest fucking hypocrite on this forum. You bitch about liberals not listening to other views, but everyone who disagrees with you is instantly a "liberal fag" or an "Obama bot". Seriously just shut the fuck up and stop posting topics like this. We've all had enough of your intolerant bullshit.

[yoey]

Originally Posted by tweak50

Your the biggest fucking hypocrite on this forum. You bitch about liberals not listening to other views, but everyone who disagrees with you is instantly a "liberal fag" or an "Obama bot". Seriously just shut the fuck up and stop posting topics like this. We've all had enough of your intolerant bullshit.

The problem with popeye and other republicans/conservatives is that they offer no counter argument. They just recycle fox news bullshit. Instead of taking an argument and replying to it, he screams "OBAMABOT111".

Ad hominem attacks are for the weakest of thinkers.

[stmadeveloper]

Originally Posted by yoey

The problem with popeye and other republicans/conservatives is that they offer no counter argument. They just recycle fox news bullshit. Instead of taking an argument and replying to it, he screams "OBAMABOT111".

Ad hominem attacks are for the weakest of thinkers.

Actually if you read through this thread there have been several conservative view points that have been well thought out. Just because we aren't real fond of our current political choices DOES NOT mean we are just spouting fox news sound bites.

I'd be glad to go point for point against any democratic platform you care to throw up in the air... but my answers would all come down to two or three answers.

-- sorry charlie the president doesn't have the power to do that, only the states or congress/senate.

-- sorry charlie the constitution doesn't allow that either.

-- Sorry charlie your candidate is lying anyway - see point 1 and 2.

So much of the crap all the candidates are spouting is just that - they don't have the power or the constitutional right to do it.

[turbolapp]

There are plenty of republican views on this forum that I have respect for, but these guys are right, when you come off sounding like like O'reilly's flock, it's just a turn off. Don't you want people to listen to what your trying to say?

[Dustin]

Originally Posted by xmcp123

Several reasons.

1. My Expenses are as Follows: Cigarettes, Food, Rent, a modest amount of inebriants, Red Bull. I don't really need as much as I make
2. It's insane that people in this country are starving. I can understand not wanting them rollin Cadillacs on 22s or what the fuck ever, but they should get to eat.
3. I have lived in some really nasty areas between high school and college. The people there were not lazy. In many cases they were uneducated, but rarely lazy. Some couldn't get transportation to a job as well. Welcome to Detroit btw, where our gangsters are too poor to buy bullets because there's no work.
4. Minimum wage is not even near what's necessary to live on, even working 50+ hour weeks. Those people work MUCH harder than me. Not smarter, but harder. Oh yeah, and they have to put on pants. I don't.
5. I refuse to punish someone's children because their mother is a lazy and/or stupid.
6. People with money buy shit. They sometimes buy my shit.

If you honestly believe most people on welfare or whatever are "not working", and not working by choice, you're an ignorant prick and need to get the hell out of your basement.

Amen. Instead of taxing the poor and making the rich richer, why not tug at the rich to make the poor a little richer? I think it's extremely selfish not to think of others.

[DewChugr]

Originally Posted by narsticle

So you follow them from the parking lot, wait for them to pick out their food, decide which bread has the most fiber....then you walk behind them and stand in line.....then you watch them take out their "Food stamps" which typically looks like a credit card that you scan through the machine? Damn....what are you from the FBI or something. If i had someone following me like that i'd punch them in the nutz.

Yeah, except I don't care what kind of bread they buy.

[popeye]

Originally Posted by tweak50

Your the biggest fucking hypocrite on this forum. You bitch about liberals not listening to other views, but everyone who disagrees with you is instantly a "liberal fag" or an "Obama bot". Seriously just shut the fuck up and stop posting topics like this. We've all had enough of your intolerant bullshit.

WRONG! I challenge you to find any post that I have made that is directed toward any one member. That is unless they are intolerant of my opinion to the point of insulting me directly.

[DewChugr]

Originally Posted by BeerHat

I think it's funny the American poor population has an obesity problem. Just think about that for a second.

It costs more to eat healthy.

[popeye]

Originally Posted by turbolapp

There are plenty of republican views on this forum that I have respect for, but these guys are right, when you come off sounding like like O'reilly's flock, it's just a turn off. Don't you want people to listen to what your trying to say?

O'reilly's flock....Obamabot....What's the difference?

[tweak50]

Originally Posted by DewChugr

It costs more to eat healthy.

A pound of spinach cost 5.99 in Wisconsin, Thats 6 double cheese burgers from Burger King. How fucked up is that.

[invisible777]

Originally Posted by tweak50

A pound of spinach cost 5.99 in Wisconsin, Thats 6 double cheese burgers from Burger King. How fucked up is that.

Most people don't buy spinach by the pound, dingbat.

[tweak50]

Originally Posted by invisible777

Most people don't buy spinach by the pound, dingbat.

Well I do, and it pisses me off damnit!

Even still, if you don't buy it by the pound you have to buy it by the bag. A bag costs about 3.50 depending on brand and has less than half a pound, so no matter how you cut the cheese it still stinks.

[Rage9]

Originally Posted by tweak50

A pound of spinach cost 5.99 in Wisconsin, Thats 6 double cheese burgers from Burger King. How fucked up is that.

Again, who the fuck buys that much spinach. You send me some good spinach recipes and I'll try them - for real.

I would also like to thank all those stupid republican mother fuckers whom elected a guy whom even after his first term - CANT TALK IN A FULL SENTENCE! Thanks dip shits.

Now back to getting a Dem in the white house.

[invisible777]

Originally Posted by tweak50

Well I do, and it pisses me off damnit!

Even still, if you don't buy it by the pound you have to buy it by the bag. A bag costs about 3.50 depending on brand and has less than half a pound, so no matter how you cut the cheese it still stinks.

There's better things to whine about than fucking spinach, for fucks sake. I think I paid like 2 or 3 bucks for a bag the other day, no big deal.

Regular gas on the other hand was $3.89 on my way home tonight. That's worth whining about...

[invisible777]

Originally Posted by peeon

guess a few reasons why gas is so high? one rhymes with rainy.

could it be.....


zany cheney!!

[minnatrix]

Originally Posted by Netphase

Nobody forced him to join the military.....

Yes, and nobody forced Bush to issue a stop-loss in which he can extend a person's tour by any amount of time he wants. There's also national guards in Iraq serving years when they only signed up to serve a couple of weeks a year.

[yoey]

Originally Posted by stmadeveloper

-- sorry charlie the president doesn't have the power to do that, only the states or congress/senate.

-- sorry charlie the constitution doesn't allow that either.

-- Sorry charlie your candidate is lying anyway - see point 1 and 2.

So much of the crap all the candidates are spouting is just that - they don't have the power or the constitutional right to do it.

A conservative (do you support Bush?) telling me about the limited powers of a president, and what the constitution stands for?

Don't make me laugh. You guys have so far shitted on the constitution, pissed on congress, and fucked the american people up the ass with flag pole.

I would love to debate you toe to toe, it would be a joke.

Conservatives are terrible at:

Foreign Policy (War in Iraq = fail, War in Afghanistan = fail, finding OBL= fail)
The Economy (huge deficit, weak dollar, ridiculous stock market fluctuations, McCain admits he knows nothing about the economy)
Not lying (Alberto Gonzalez cant recall!, Bush making contradictory statements, whitehouse shredding/deleting emails, trying to hide visitor book to the whitehouse, etc.)
Applying "small government" rules (See patriot act).

Its so obvious who to go with its not even funny.

The only thing you guys stand great on is being touch on crime. Unfortunatley, no sane person would vote on this alone. Sorry guys, its time for another democrat to clean up your messes.