Jon

WickedFire is extending it's brand, into affiliate marketing, but in a new style. We are not going to be the middleman like the other networks. All of the sites will be 100% owned and operated by the parent company of the WickedFire network. We already have a pretty long list of affiliate features to add that no one has ever dared to use, and I think it will do really well.

The beta release will be available to WickedFire members ONLY to test out. We are also going to restrict a limited amount of ppc advertisers for each site (and you will be allowed to use trademarked terms), so that bidding wars don't happen. No one else will have sites like ours, and there will be a shitload of free promotional material to use that no one has ever done either, and all convert REALLY well from the tests we've run.

We're going to have a few options for affiliates too, to really customize how well they want to do with which sites they are marketing for. Expect at least 150 sites in our arsenal by Summer 2007.

Some things to look forward to:
Weekly payouts via paypal or direct deposit. (no more net 15-30)
International webmasters are accepted automatically.
Pay per sale, pay per free trial, and recurring payouts.
Realtime stats for impressions, clicks, sales. No delays.
2nd and 3rd tier referrals.
More than 20 unique styles of promotional tools.
Bonuses for accounts that do X sales or more a month.
Incentives are okay.
Newsletters are okay (limited).
Special tools for blackhat seo and whitehat seo publishers.
Tracking with and without the use of cookies.
Plus a whole lot more that I don't want to give out just yet..

Either way, it's looking REALLY sweet already. As we move closer to a launch I'll keep everyone updated. I still want everyone to continue giving their opinions and we'll add them, because the goal of this is to empower the affiliates, since there are no advertisers to worry about. If we like it and approve it, it will run, simple as that.

Think of this project as the real deal of a network created by affiliates FOR affiliates. Are we going to make a shitload of money? Hell yeah, but you will too.

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Also, just wanted to quickly mention that the affiliate network will NOT be part of WickedFire as a forum or media/educational resource center. They are two seperate projects both using the same brand. I guess similar to MSN and Microsoft. Same network, two entirely different areas, not connected at all.

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Stanley

You are a smart man.

chrislingle

will never work, this is worseless!



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Uzzz

*ralphs voice* whats an affliate...

darrat

Nice one Jon

You have been busy!

katoved

Jesus Jon, your going to be huge. When's the IPO? Can I start to search for an underwriter for you? I also want some stock options grant. Man, you are a fucking genius; this forum was a front for your big master plans. You mother fucker KUDOS JON...KUDOS. You remind me of fuckign Lord Sidious as he blasts fucking Samuel Jackson out of a 400 story building with electric bolts; but sam jackson being google at this point. Well maybe not google, but at least Value Click.

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katoved

Oh jesus, I forgot to ask. Can I pay you to become an employee of WickedFire Inc? Well, Ill just intern for you at least. I want in man. Ill move to NY in a minute.

wfhnow

Sweet....I'm going to be rich Great idea why i couldnt i think of that??? maybe because i'm lazy

Jon

Those bigger networks are light years ahead of me man. It will take me YEARS to get to where they are now. I have no intentions of becoming the biggest and best, I think that as long as we stick to the original gameplan, that we will create, dominate and control our market. Like I said, I'm not a competitor of theirs or any of the ad networks really, because they are middlemen for offers, and I will still market those things as an affiliate, but this project just gives my team and whatever affiliates involved another profitable outlet of revenue, and maybe a bit more stable at that.

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Jon

Heh, you don't even know what niches the sites are in! They could be "learn how to have sex in a prison shower without feeling pain" for all you know..

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katoved

I have some products I would like to market through your affiliate program. I have access to some really cool products/corporate offerings that I would like to market in your "affiliate for affiliate" program. How I can go about getting listed?

wfhnow

HAHAHAHAHa......whats the payout on it

GOOD one!!!!

Brad101

Sounds interesting but a little vague. The affiliates will be promoting subscription-based sites?

Jon

Yep.. All the sites are subscription based.

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Jon

Sorry man, not interested. We want to keep everything in the program owned by us, no one else. Even if you were selling gold bars for a buck I wouldn't put it into the system.

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wfhnow

WOW not even gold bars...Howabout my product free Gas Cards of 100 bucks FREE!!!! J/K

Brad101

And you're not bothered about the source of the traffic as long as it's not email spam? Also, give us a heads-up on some of the niches... cheers!

juniodude

these worsless ideas are awesomeness. yumm!

can i get a free beer for every sale?

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Jon

As long as it's not fraudulent, illegal or email/IM spam, I could care less how you get the sale. Even if you go on the street and beg people to join..

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juniodude

i'm going to do that. be a beggar and have a printout of the affiliate deal=D and tell them i dont need money i just need them to sign up for the deal. Heck i might even throw in some singing and juggling...oh yeah and being blind!

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Jon

Are you on crack?

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Andrew

If anyone is interested, I am selling gold bars for $1, you have to fill out about 30 incentivized offers and get 25 of your closest friends, and 25 of their friends additionally have to complete 30 offers. Then I sell you a gold bar for $1

Jon

Goodluck getting your hands on them!

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Stanley

SOLD. but I want that gold bar up front.

sknydave

this sounds good!

Penguin

That's just how it works.

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stickycarrots

Sounds pretty cool Jon. Good luck! Are you going to have a super-affiliate program? Maybe I could try to bring some guys in.

Also, instead of weekly payments or whatever...can we be payed in +rep?

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Jon

If you want to take rep points instead of cash, be my guest.

If your pals can push volume, I'll hike them up on payout amounts. But I won't be giving it out until I see some proof.

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stickycarrots

I think I'll leave the rep for someone else, but what about a referral program? Is that in the works as well?

I would go post on the suggestion forum 5%-10% for referrals, but I'm too lazy. What do you think?

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Michel Z.

Cool stuff going on... I am looking forward! GOOD LUCK Jon

Jon

Yah, already got it covered.. I think it will actually be 3 levels deep.

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Juicify

I don't really understand this but it will be cool

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avantrosa

Sounds interesting...

Be careful with the weekly payouts. Some networks have been burned doing this. What are your chargeback/refund terms?

For instance, let's say you pay each Friday. On Thursday an affiliate has 10 friends sign-up. The next day the affiliate is paypal'd the commission. The same day each 10 customers can request a refund and you are out of the cash. With PayPal especially, it's extreamly difficult to reverse a transaction and takes ages.

On the flip side your refund policy may be that there are no refunds. That would solve that issue, but you may have a small percent of disgruntled consumers (which you can always except anyhow.)

ToddW

Sounds good... looking forward to this.

Jon

Well that's it.. probably no refunds on the customer's end. Also, for affiliates we are probably going to set up some type of trust scale, where they must send X amount of sales before they qualify for weekly payouts.

On top of which, I already told my lawyer to draft the following into the T&C, that if any affiliate is caught spamming or scamming (fraudulent activity), their information will be posted on a public black list, and I'll be sharing that information with other networks. That should get them to rethink how worth it they think it is to scam me for $100 or so.

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DanNicol

congrats jon, I hope that this becomes everything you wish it to be.

JDA

Good luck Jon, I'm sure you'll have plenty of people from WickedFire wanting to help this become a success.

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avantrosa

Yeah that generally works well.

Just curious, are all your products going to be specific to one vertical?

Jon

There will be 2-5 sites per niche. Expect at least 25 niches by Summer 2007. All sites are subscription based though.

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Michel Z.

Jon,

I am wondering if you going to share with us tips how we can generate traffic to your sites in order to get leads when your affiliate program is ready! I mean it's all about traffic... Sometimes I ask reps of ad networks if they can help me out finding (new) ways to send traffic to their offers. They know everything about the advertising part but much less how to send traffic. I mean it's also in their interest financially: (quality) traffic = leads! Ofcourse, I am the one who should have the knowledge about seo, ways to create traffic, how to convert traffic into leads, etc. in the first place! Especially guys like you, who know how to make BIG money with affiliate marketing & to generate massive traffic to sites can help us a lot here which will benefit (= more leads) you as well I think. Maybe your 'resource' section will give an answer to my question! Thanks.

Karnul

Recurring commissions on those subscriptions?

Jon

Yes sir!

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kuntek

So the Summer 2007 will be huge for you? I can't wait to hear about the niches you are after...

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Karnul

I'd like a shot at this. Although I am new to affiliate marketing, I plan to keep plugging away until I am a super-affiliate. Currently doing 250ish per day in gross payouts.

BTW, how much gross payouts per network = "super-affiliate" ?

z00pedup

count me in.

rock on!

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Jon

You're getting too technical too quickly. Wait until the project launches and then you can ask silly questions like these.

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Karnul

Jon, I wasn't asking what your network would consider a super-affiliate. 'Cause that would be silly since you don't actually have any affiliates yet.

I was asking what CJ, Azoogle, Copeac, XY7, etc consider 'super'. Is that a silly question?