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Old 06-14-2008, 04:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Question Stress - How Do You Respond To This Shit

Well I had this long ass story laid out and was ready to post but I realized it was a little too informative and would completely destroy my reputation as a programmer because no one wants the details of there job released so I removed it all and well here is my revision.

Basically I took on a recent job and did all my programming just fine and implimented everything he asked for, everything works fine on my own servers, on my own localhost, ect... no issues at all 100% ready to place on his servers.

So I wen't to do it and I realized that his provider does not allow the use of a .htaccess file and upon more investigation I realized this hosting provider was ripping him based upon what they offered and there price so I informed my customer about this and gave him an idea of valid hosting providers which run linux and Apache and which also give you a great deal for far less money then he was paying now.

Anyway he wen't off and got another hosting account and I was all ready to upload the completed work to his new servers (Not dedicated ones), but before that I thought I should do a quick test to make sure everything was on the up and up.

After 4 hours of testing (Because you have to wait at least 1 hour when uploading a new .htaccess file - Developers will understand) anyway I realized that the hosting account he got was Windows Based Running IIS which causes lots of issues because they also don't use a .htaccess file and the only way to parse PHP in HTML on IIS is to have server access which guess what you don't get on a shared hosting account.

I tried several techniques to overcome the issue and even got in touch with other highly skilled developer contacts because the last thing I wanted to do was tell him to change his hosting account once again but it turns out that I had no choice, well I did but the other choice caused him a shit wack more work, me a shit wack more work, and it would cause some decent SEO downfalls so I had to take the best route and inform him that there was a problem with his choice of getting a Windows Based Hosting account and not a Linux Based Account and informed him that all he needs to do is tell his provider to make a simple switch from windows to linux (Which I checked and they do run linux servers with apache also) so there shouldn't be an issue for his new provider to make the switch and once they do there will be no issues at all.

Before I had to tell him to change his hosting plan (Again), the Payment had already been made for my services but I gave long detailed explanations of everything and said there was no extra charge to get everything up and running when they switch to Linux instead of Windows, and I gave him all the completed files already.

I left out a lot of details in this thread but I can assure you that I did my work exceptionally well but am stressed because I always hate having to go back to the customer and tell them that there was an issue on there end.

It always makes me think that the customer will turn around and accuse me of something that isn't valid even though this hasen't happend its still stressful to go back and tell the customer more then once that they need to change things again after they already changed things because I know damn well some customers don't react well to that.

So what kinda drugs do you all got for rising stress levels while I await the next interactions with the customer......Or maybe I'm just tired as hell and am over reacting to shit that just hasen't happened yet.
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Old 06-14-2008, 04:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Booze, lots of it. So much you could easily take a woman home you had not planed. If you have never got that drunk, your in for the ride [litterly] of your life.
1 problem I quite drinking a few years back but then again if I start again I'll be able to get drunk off 2 haha.

Its all good now my stress levels are back to normal the customer just emailed me back and was more then understanding and the hosting provider issue was completely worked out so it was just me getting worried from lack of sleep.
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Why won't you just take time off and take a litte nap ??? Frustration leads to another frustration. It's pointless to continue if you are frustrated.
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smoke a little weed...

just hit the bong twice and you won't be stressing over shit no more
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smoke a little weed...

just hit the bong twice and you won't be stressing over shit no more

Yes...Yes... that will fix it
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Why won't you just take time off and take a litte nap ??? Frustration leads to another frustration. It's pointless to continue if you are frustrated.
Because sleep is for the weak, I've been going 16 to 18 hour days, 6 days a week, for 5 years now, at first it was just because I was broke but then when I was no longer broke it was because there was nothing better to do and then well now its just a habbit that well I guess its starting to take its toll and time to cut back to 12 hour days 5 days a week or some shit.
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Because sleep is for the weak, I've been going 16 to 18 hour days, 6 days a week, for 5 years now, at first it was just because I was broke but then when I was no longer broke it was because there was nothing better to do and then well now its just a habbit that well I guess its starting to take its toll and time to cut back to 12 hour days 5 days a week or some shit.
I know what you mean. It was same with me when I was building Watches For Discussion | The Age of Watches. You just have to lower your working hours and do something totally different to boost your productivity. Did you know that you can do 3 hours work in 1 hour if you have desire to do it ? But this desire keeps dissapearing if we spend too many hours working on the same thing. Thats why we need to spend our time on different things throughout the day.

Sleep is for the weak ? Seems like you are getting weak. Sleeping 10 minutes in the middle of a day isn't much.
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think positive Aequitas, enjoy the life, go out with your friends (but not to much 1 hour per day untill 4 hours), once a week hit the bong like _poto_ said, listen good music, get girls, in weekend go out in clubs ...

ENJOY ONE SMALL PART OF THE MONEY YOU MAKE !

Because you're working for your own good !



That's how I deal with my stress ... but ... ohhh nooo wait ... FUCK STRESS and you're in the right shape
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Aeq. Clients Sucking Fuck. ... that doesn't spoonerize as well as I thought it should.

I totally know what you're talking about. I have a client, pays well, but completely batshit crazy. Oh well, sanity's overrated.
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Your stress is mostly imagined. It doesnt sound like they were mad. Also they looked at the hosting choices and picked one. Maybe they should have emailed you back and asked what one exactly they need. They saw Windows and thought it was the shit since that is what they have at home.

You are saving them money monthly on their new host. You will get them more traffic. They chose you as a consultant. They still like you, despite a small omission on your part.

Dont sweat it. Apologize, be sincere, and move on.
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This stuff happens man.. we've all been there before in one form or another.
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It almost seems as if you were getting stressed out for no reason. There is no point in letting things out of your control get you stressed, if your client doesn't realise this isn't your fault then fuck him...
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theres a lot to stress about
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will i ever be able to afford a house
am i making the right move by not getting a job after uni and doing online shit full time
does this chick like me or does she 'just wanna be friends'
why cant i gain any fucken weight after 6 months at the gym

i could go on. i just fire up some old school megadeth and chill out.
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Not to get off topic, but I had this same problem until I realized I wasn't eating nearly enough. Take what you are eating and double it, then double that. You'll constantly feel like you have to puke for a few months but the gains are worth it.

Make sure you take a good casien protein blend along with the normal whey. A good recovery drink like Surge also helps, and adds an easy 900 calories.
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Aequitas, the lesson here is before accepting a job, the first thing you should do is verify the customer actually knows what they want. Ask to verify the environment your work will run on to avoid this in the future.

The reality is many of the people farming out work have no clue what's involved or required so the pressure falls on the developer to make sure what they are building will work. Sucks, but, you'll save your self future shit.
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Try to do your development on the server next time. More times then not I have issues when moving a site/app from my localhost to the web server. There are always version differences, packages that aren't installed, or something of the sort. Better to tackle those demons from the get go.
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Why do you have to wait 1 hr for .htaccess??? That's not true at all.
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Try Matcha green tea - works wonders for stress. Seriously. Try it and thank me later
Make sure you get the Japanese stuff. If it's under $20 for a small container it's probably some cheap shit.
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Well don't sweat it, sounds like everything will come out peachy with this project so all is good. Just chalk it up to lessons learned - I'm sure next time you will specify detailed server requirements before deploying a new programming project.

And it doesn't take 1 hour to reload a .htaccess file. I'm assuming you're talking about mod_rewrite rules which can be a total bitch to troubleshoot. Try using a tool like wget instead of a web browser, makes it much easier to see whats going on with redirects and such
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It might not be true on all hosts but on GoDaddy, Fasthosts, and a few others I've worked on if the site is brand new and never before had an .htaccess file on it then it will take 1 hour for it to start taking effect, or about 1 hour, here is what GoDaddy say's about this.

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So it doesn't always take an hour but sometimes its better to wait an hour or to test at a half hour and then at an hour to see if its working because if the file is new or a new site then well its a pain because it usually never works right after upload.

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I was from lack of sleep or something else haha I don't know its morning now and when I re-read this I think what the fuck was I thinking last night.
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Make sure you get the Japanese stuff. If it's under $20 for a small container it's probably some cheap shit.
Lol I just read that you were struggling with your conversion. This would have been fast sale :P
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Not the same stuff bud...
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It is understandable to get stressed out when you need to tell the customer they have problems at their end. Some people are just idiots, and will get pissed at you over it.

Anyways, I personally don't get stressed about this type of stuff when I write scripts and design sites for people. Why? It's not my problem. If you told them that the reason for changing hosts was because you needed permissions to use an .htaccess file and have it run an a Linux/Apache server, then it is not your fault that they turned around and got a Windows based account.

I have a pretty detached personality as well, so things like this just don't get to me.

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my suggestion is to put it all in writing and then meet those descriptions... and anything over is extra, that usually solves above 99&#37; of issues.
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I take no drugs, unless being addicted to the gym is a drug. Exercise is relaxing, meditative and allows me so sort through my thoughts.

If you have been operating on 5 to 6 hours of sleep over the last 5 years, hopefully you have been eating and living properly. Unless you made some radical change recently you should be cool.

Overreacting might be the case here. Think positively, it should all work out fine. You are hard working, ethical, and you hold yourself to higher standards than others, you will not lose.

In the future, ask yourself better questions to keep from fretting. Keep in mind not to become upset over people or things out of your control or sphere of influence.

In regards to this situation think of ways you can improve your transactions with the customer and keep your stress levels down, make a checklist of things you can do differently to avoid this in the future.
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