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Deliguy · 10-10-2006, 04:42 PM

So i was reading peaches post on how much do you earn from your sites and I must say i was REALLY impressed at everones responses.
How much are you earning from your sites?
Most of the people were making around a buck/day and yet they had this "i suck" attitude. I just wanna say to everyone here that are in this situation, you have no idea how well you are doing. Your earning a little bit of residual everyday and once you reach that point you've definitely made it past the hard part. So if i may i'd like to humbly tell you how i made it beyond that point.

First thing i did was buy a mid sized filing cabnet and some folders along with a couple notebook pads. Organization will play a huge roll in your future projects.

This will sound weird but it worked very well for me; In the middle of the night I used to go to this little shitty but well lit park in a town next to mine. Its pretty much the crappiest park in the entire county but its well lit and no one is ever there. Even the druggies go home around dusk. I guess it doesn't matter where you go as long as you're alone and it ISN'T where you will be doing all your actual work or where anyone you know will be able to find you.

I labeled my notebook "Ways to make $1/day online." Then i would sit there on the swing set with a six pack of beer and jot down as many ways as i could think of to make exactly $1/per day online. It didn't matter how much time a project would take me to complete or how much work would be involved as long as it made $1 each day. I also would completely avoid any ideas that sounded like my "million dollar" idea. Just strictly focus on that single buck. The creative juices just kind of flowed from there. I'd write down as much information about each idea as i could including what type of sponsors and how to promote and automate them. I wouldn't set any particular goal of how many dollar project ideas to come up with a night or reserve any amount of time to spend on it. I'd just hang out relax on the swingset and write.

Of course every night one of two cops would drop by to check the park for druggies and i just explained to them what i was doing and they were really cool about it and from that time on would just drop by and say hi real fast and leave every night. After you've written about 10 ideas it starts becoming very easy. After about your 20th one you'll start flying through them extremely fast. Since it was such a relaxing way to end my day and i started to really enjoy it i was shocked when i reached my 200th idea so soon. It really didn't take very long. At this point i was taking all my ideas home and putting them into their own seperate folder in the filing cabinet and labeling each one with a project name.

Then i just started working on them. One by one, I'd make little goals for myself like completing 3 folders/week. I wouldn't worry about checking the stats every hour or spending a month building each project. I just built them, i built every one just as fast as i could. Pretty soon i started running out of projects so i'd started going back to the park every couple nights and then spending the week completing what i wrote. Eventually I turned that into a schedule. I'd go to the park about once/week on a weekend then on mondays i'd rewrite all my notes into full word documents with more and more details on exactly how to accomplish each project. Then tues.-fri. i would complete the projects.

Now i'm in this beautiful scheduled routine where i even go back over each project after 6 months and revamp them so they make a bit more money. At first a huge percentage of the projects failed and would make less than the buck/day. After about a year of doing this that percentage started dropping dramatically and to my shock the new project ideas starting producing more than a buck and the old projects were maturing and making MUCH more than a dollar/day.

So i just want to say to all of you. You are doing great. Keep it up. Develop your own little system. If you figured out a way to make even .50/day than there is no reason why you can't find your muse and after a year produce 100 .50/day projects. That's $50/day! Think about it. Anyways, i realize this was long winded for a forum post but i hope it helps a few of you reach your goals because once you master those $1/day projects than theres nothing stopping you from the $100/day projects.

Jdog · 10-10-2006, 04:53 PM

Great post. And it does make sense. When I found out my wife was pregnant it made me get off my ass and start working hard instead of just messing around. I'm nowhere near where I want to be, but I just got my first adsense check last month and right now Google owes me about $600 and CJ owes me about $250.

Jack Swift · 10-10-2006, 05:20 PM

Awesome post! This is kind of what I'm doing now. Taking a more steady, diligent, long-term approach to my web projects. And I can see it working. If I keep this rate up I should be at $100 a day sometime in 2007.

aeiouy · 10-10-2006, 05:34 PM

Sounds like a good way to get drunk at least!

Nice brainstorming ideas... I think it is important. Perhaps not everyone do it in the way you mentioned, but just finding your own space to come up with ideas is very important.

Jdog · 10-10-2006, 05:38 PM

I need at least a 12 pack to start thinking straight.

CoRegisteer.com · 10-10-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliguy

..... I wouldn't worry about checking the stats every hour.....

that itself is a feat. I'm like a stats junkie

Gooner · 10-10-2006, 05:47 PM

Great post!

I must admit, I don't have a problem coming up with ideas. However, that's all I used to do, come up with ideas. I didn't action them. So, after hours reading WF I decided to get my finger out of my ass (it was well and truly stuck up there) and start doing something.

Now, 2 weeks later, I am earning around $5 a day. Not much, but it is $5 closer than I was 2 weeks ago.

And remember, to make a $million you first need to make $1. Then another, then another....

John · 10-10-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooner

Great post!

I must admit, I don't have a problem coming up with ideas. However, that's all I used to do, come up with ideas. I didn't action them. So, after hours reading WF I decided to get my finger out of my ass (it was well and truly stuck up there) and start doing something.

Now, 2 weeks later, I am earning around $5 a day. Not much, but it is $5 closer than I was 2 weeks ago.

And remember, to make a $million you first need to make $1. Then another, then another....

$10 million is the new $1 million

Gooner · 10-10-2006, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

$10 million is the new $1 million

Let me start with the 'reasonable' goal of $1m, then I can go on to $10m!!

And remember, i'm in the UK so I am not a millionaire here until I earn nearly $2m!

Andrew · 10-10-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

$10 million is the new $1 million

$100 million is the new $10 million.

"The harder I work the luckier I get." Keep it up.

matrics · 10-11-2006, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooner

Let me start with the 'reasonable' goal of $1m, then I can go on to $10m!!

And remember, i'm in the UK so I am not a millionaire here until I earn nearly $2m!

WTF??? Who made that rule? Must suck for you...

Michael_Goldman · 10-11-2006, 01:40 AM

move to Japan!
Less than $10K and you're a yen millionaire already

Jan · 10-11-2006, 02:12 AM

A 6 pack and Jack....THAT'S where idea motivation is!

Actually, I have an overflow of ideas past and present filling up files and notebooks. If tomorrow I never had another idea I could be busy for a decade after I die! I am now trying to organize ideas and pick a few ideas to focus on. It hurts to put out the effort needed

Great post....great perspective.....thank you!

blackthought286 · 10-11-2006, 02:55 AM

I get plenty of ideas, my problem has always been focus. I have been working on that for the past couple of months. It's been alot of improvement on my earnings since then.

TheLearner · 10-11-2006, 06:43 AM

Starting is always difficult, but keeping going could be worse. I have plenty of ideas, but I'm stuck figuring out how to realize them. A working method and focus are the basic tools to going forward.
I'd like to suggest a really inspirational article by Steve Pavlina. It's quite long, but very helpful.

Deliguy · 10-13-2006, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan

A 6 pack and Jack....THAT'S where idea motivation is!

The good ol' captain saves me every time.

Ferraristi · 10-13-2006, 05:36 AM

Great post Deliguy. I'm curious though. When you started actually building your projects, did you spend much time driving traffic or did you just throw the sites open and wait for the search engines to pick them up?

Also, where does your main income come from? Is it predominantly adsense, or affiliates or something else?

brianpaxton · 10-13-2006, 11:35 AM

Deliguy - nice read, and quite inspirational.

I like your "one dollar at a time" approach, but do I have to go to the damn park at 1am and sit on the swingset?

::jk::

dsm56 · 10-13-2006, 12:03 PM

Great post, but I would recommend that you do not throw out your million dollar ideas.
Trust me, once you are earning $100 a day or more, you will start thinking about where to invest money. Thats where the bigger ideas come in. Its a lot easier to make a big idea work if you have capital.

Start small, get some income that you can live off, and then start working on big ideas. You will never be a millionaire from $1/day ideas, but they can get you a good foothold for future projects.

emp · 10-13-2006, 01:12 PM

That post was nice.

I like the "go somewhere where you can be alone and think" part.
Fuck... I am living in a really beautiful country now, I'll go do that more often.

I think I even know a place. Off to the batcave....

Cheers,

::emp::

[R]DeVore · 10-19-2006, 06:58 PM

nice post. really has me thinking about a lot of stuff. im working on sites to just let SE's pick them up over time. I have one making $3.00 from just SE traffic. no money spent on it except the domain. no work building traffic. just SE's picked it up now its getting some decent money. I have about 30 more im doing the same thing to. Along with PPC Arbitrage

guysmy · 10-19-2006, 07:49 PM

Very nice post. You have a good grasp of the creative process (which continues to be a mystery to most). Defining limitations ...$1/day (or problems) are very conducive to creativity. For whatever reason the park is your creative space. Also, It's wise to have a different place for producing ideas than implementing them. The environment triggers the right mode of thought more and more easily due to repetition.

Adsense Loser · 10-19-2006, 09:12 PM

Great post , bluehat

DirtyB · 11-21-2006, 01:57 AM

great site. Lot of info and creative ideas. Keep up the good work, BlueHat.

Jon · 11-21-2006, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyB

great site. Lot of info and creative ideas. Keep up the good work, BlueHat.

Damn you one post wonders that always resurrect old threads..

pjleonhardt · 11-21-2006, 02:24 AM

Nothing wrong with that. Brings renewed inspiration to some of us "lowerings"

Jon · 11-21-2006, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjleonhardt

Nothing wrong with that. Brings renewed inspiration to some of us "lowerings"

You're a June 06 signup guy.. nothing new or lower about you.

illusion · 11-21-2006, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon

You're a June 06 signup guy.. nothing new or lower about you.

Exactly, in WF it is about rep, post count and sign up date. If you are superior to someone in that way it doesn't matter what they make.

Jon · 11-21-2006, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illusion

Exactly, in WF it is about rep, post count and sign up date. If you are superior to someone in that way it doesn't matter what they make.

Another grandfathered in member.. geez.. I thought all of you guys got pissed at me and left.

illusion · 11-21-2006, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon

Another grandfathered in member.. geez.. I thought all of you guys got pissed at me and left.

I wasn't here for the contest, my first post was like 3 months after I joined. I just joined incase something came up that I needed to be a member.

And it just so happens I am member 5

pjleonhardt · 11-21-2006, 03:08 AM

left? ha!
I've been here since the start. I just watched for a number of months because I felt like I had nothing to contribute..
I still got nothing to contribute, but at least now I'm having fun making posts that dont!

matrics · 11-21-2006, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon

Another grandfathered in member.. geez.. I thought all of you guys got pissed at me and left.

Left? Hm... yeah, I left for like 2 weeks sometime in August to take that gigantic dump I had been putting off

Arc_Con · 11-21-2006, 03:52 PM

Pretty inspiring, mate. Ni ce post.

micfire · 11-21-2006, 04:12 PM

This post was worth of hum.. bumping.. Deliguy just keeps writing excellent stuff. I predict your coming ebook will be a success...

10-10-2006, 04:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Deliguy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,974 iTrader: 9 / 100%	How I Got Started So i was reading peaches post on how much do you earn from your sites and I must say i was REALLY impressed at everones responses. How much are you earning from your sites? Most of the people were making around a buck/day and yet they had this "i suck" attitude. I just wanna say to everyone here that are in this situation, you have no idea how well you are doing. Your earning a little bit of residual everyday and once you reach that point you've definitely made it past the hard part. So if i may i'd like to humbly tell you how i made it beyond that point. First thing i did was buy a mid sized filing cabnet and some folders along with a couple notebook pads. Organization will play a huge roll in your future projects. This will sound weird but it worked very well for me; In the middle of the night I used to go to this little shitty but well lit park in a town next to mine. Its pretty much the crappiest park in the entire county but its well lit and no one is ever there. Even the druggies go home around dusk. I guess it doesn't matter where you go as long as you're alone and it ISN'T where you will be doing all your actual work or where anyone you know will be able to find you. I labeled my notebook "Ways to make $1/day online." Then i would sit there on the swing set with a six pack of beer and jot down as many ways as i could think of to make exactly $1/per day online. It didn't matter how much time a project would take me to complete or how much work would be involved as long as it made $1 each day. I also would completely avoid any ideas that sounded like my "million dollar" idea. Just strictly focus on that single buck. The creative juices just kind of flowed from there. I'd write down as much information about each idea as i could including what type of sponsors and how to promote and automate them. I wouldn't set any particular goal of how many dollar project ideas to come up with a night or reserve any amount of time to spend on it. I'd just hang out relax on the swingset and write. Of course every night one of two cops would drop by to check the park for druggies and i just explained to them what i was doing and they were really cool about it and from that time on would just drop by and say hi real fast and leave every night. After you've written about 10 ideas it starts becoming very easy. After about your 20th one you'll start flying through them extremely fast. Since it was such a relaxing way to end my day and i started to really enjoy it i was shocked when i reached my 200th idea so soon. It really didn't take very long. At this point i was taking all my ideas home and putting them into their own seperate folder in the filing cabinet and labeling each one with a project name. Then i just started working on them. One by one, I'd make little goals for myself like completing 3 folders/week. I wouldn't worry about checking the stats every hour or spending a month building each project. I just built them, i built every one just as fast as i could. Pretty soon i started running out of projects so i'd started going back to the park every couple nights and then spending the week completing what i wrote. Eventually I turned that into a schedule. I'd go to the park about once/week on a weekend then on mondays i'd rewrite all my notes into full word documents with more and more details on exactly how to accomplish each project. Then tues.-fri. i would complete the projects. Now i'm in this beautiful scheduled routine where i even go back over each project after 6 months and revamp them so they make a bit more money. At first a huge percentage of the projects failed and would make less than the buck/day. After about a year of doing this that percentage started dropping dramatically and to my shock the new project ideas starting producing more than a buck and the old projects were maturing and making MUCH more than a dollar/day. So i just want to say to all of you. You are doing great. Keep it up. Develop your own little system. If you figured out a way to make even .50/day than there is no reason why you can't find your muse and after a year produce 100 .50/day projects. That's $50/day! Think about it. Anyways, i realize this was long winded for a forum post but i hope it helps a few of you reach your goals because once you master those $1/day projects than theres nothing stopping you from the $100/day projects. __________________ Quit Thinking In Monochrome - Blue Hat SEO Wanna chat with other WF members?

10-10-2006, 04:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jdog Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,329 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Great post. And it does make sense. When I found out my wife was pregnant it made me get off my ass and start working hard instead of just messing around. I'm nowhere near where I want to be, but I just got my first adsense check last month and right now Google owes me about $600 and CJ owes me about $250. __________________ Copeac Rocks! Bluehat SEO Must Read!

10-10-2006, 05:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
aeiouy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 894 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Sounds like a good way to get drunk at least! Nice brainstorming ideas... I think it is important. Perhaps not everyone do it in the way you mentioned, but just finding your own space to come up with ideas is very important. __________________ Wickedfire is spanish for F'ed Up Make Wickedfire a better place. Click Here Hakuna Matata

10-10-2006, 05:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jdog Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,329 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I need at least a 12 pack to start thinking straight. __________________ Copeac Rocks! Bluehat SEO Must Read!

10-11-2006, 02:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
Jan Resident GILF Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 1,080 iTrader: 12 / 100%	A 6 pack and Jack....THAT'S where idea motivation is! Actually, I have an overflow of ideas past and present filling up files and notebooks. If tomorrow I never had another idea I could be busy for a decade after I die! I am now trying to organize ideas and pick a few ideas to focus on. It hurts to put out the effort needed Great post....great perspective.....thank you! __________________ Let today turn out better than planned! Jan's Writing Services Jan's Ideas Ways to Save Money

10-10-2006, 05:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jack Swift Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 192 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Awesome post! This is kind of what I'm doing now. Taking a more steady, diligent, long-term approach to my web projects. And I can see it working. If I keep this rate up I should be at $100 a day sometime in 2007.

10-10-2006, 05:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gooner Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 539 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Great post! I must admit, I don't have a problem coming up with ideas. However, that's all I used to do, come up with ideas. I didn't action them. So, after hours reading WF I decided to get my finger out of my ass (it was well and truly stuck up there) and start doing something. Now, 2 weeks later, I am earning around $5 a day. Not much, but it is $5 closer than I was 2 weeks ago. And remember, to make a $million you first need to make $1. Then another, then another....

10-11-2006, 01:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
Michael_Goldman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: upside down Posts: 101 iTrader: 0 / 0%	move to Japan! Less than $10K and you're a yen millionaire already

10-11-2006, 02:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
blackthought286 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Harlem, NYC Posts: 153 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I get plenty of ideas, my problem has always been focus. I have been working on that for the past couple of months. It's been alot of improvement on my earnings since then. __________________ The Best in Hip Hop and R&B Financials for beginners

10-11-2006, 06:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
TheLearner Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 45 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Starting is always difficult, but keeping going could be worse. I have plenty of ideas, but I'm stuck figuring out how to realize them. A working method and focus are the basic tools to going forward. I'd like to suggest a really inspirational article by Steve Pavlina. It's quite long, but very helpful. __________________ I'm here to learn.

10-13-2006, 05:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ferraristi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, UK Posts: 225 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Great post Deliguy. I'm curious though. When you started actually building your projects, did you spend much time driving traffic or did you just throw the sites open and wait for the search engines to pick them up? Also, where does your main income come from? Is it predominantly adsense, or affiliates or something else?

10-13-2006, 11:35 AM	#18 (permalink)
brianpaxton Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 299 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Deliguy - nice read, and quite inspirational. I like your "one dollar at a time" approach, but do I have to go to the damn park at 1am and sit on the swingset? ::jk::

10-13-2006, 12:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
dsm56 breasts Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Great post, but I would recommend that you do not throw out your million dollar ideas. Trust me, once you are earning $100 a day or more, you will start thinking about where to invest money. Thats where the bigger ideas come in. Its a lot easier to make a big idea work if you have capital. Start small, get some income that you can live off, and then start working on big ideas. You will never be a millionaire from $1/day ideas, but they can get you a good foothold for future projects.

10-13-2006, 01:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
emp Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,067 iTrader: 7 / 100%	That post was nice. I like the "go somewhere where you can be alone and think" part. Fuck... I am living in a really beautiful country now, I'll go do that more often. I think I even know a place. Off to the batcave.... Cheers, ::emp:: __________________ "We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church, state, and our educational system. We are here to drink beer. We are here to kill war. We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us." - Charles Bukowski Blind Ape Seo ¦ My WickedFire articles

10-19-2006, 06:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
[R]DeVore Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 703 iTrader: 0 / 0%	nice post. really has me thinking about a lot of stuff. im working on sites to just let SE's pick them up over time. I have one making $3.00 from just SE traffic. no money spent on it except the domain. no work building traffic. just SE's picked it up now its getting some decent money. I have about 30 more im doing the same thing to. Along with PPC Arbitrage

10-19-2006, 07:49 PM	#22 (permalink)
guysmy sumitlead 4 lyfe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: in a human body Posts: 802 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Very nice post. You have a good grasp of the creative process (which continues to be a mystery to most). Defining limitations ...$1/day (or problems) are very conducive to creativity. For whatever reason the park is your creative space. Also, It's wise to have a different place for producing ideas than implementing them. The environment triggers the right mode of thought more and more easily due to repetition. __________________ Need e-mail submits that convert? FluxAds has TONS.

10-19-2006, 09:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
Adsense Loser Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 484 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Great post , bluehat

11-21-2006, 01:57 AM	#24 (permalink)
DirtyB Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 / 0%	great site. Lot of info and creative ideas. Keep up the good work, BlueHat.

11-21-2006, 02:24 AM	#26 (permalink)
pjleonhardt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN USA Posts: 250 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Nothing wrong with that. Brings renewed inspiration to some of us "lowerings" __________________ Monetize your proxies! Get your Affiliate Revenue started with Azoogle & Copeac

11-21-2006, 03:08 AM	#31 (permalink)
pjleonhardt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN USA Posts: 250 iTrader: 0 / 0%	left? ha! I've been here since the start. I just watched for a number of months because I felt like I had nothing to contribute.. I still got nothing to contribute, but at least now I'm having fun making posts that dont! __________________ Monetize your proxies! Get your Affiliate Revenue started with Azoogle & Copeac

11-21-2006, 03:52 PM	#33 (permalink)
Arc_Con Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 329 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Pretty inspiring, mate. Ni ce post. __________________ AFFORDABLE Hosting -- Extreme Dependability -- FULL Service ICQ ME for DAMN GOOD HOSTING DEALS: 5380773

11-21-2006, 04:12 PM	#34 (permalink)
micfire Spämmed Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 948 iTrader: 1 / 100%	This post was worth of hum.. bumping.. Deliguy just keeps writing excellent stuff. I predict your coming ebook will be a success...

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