Guy makes $100k a year in adsense; decides to quit adsense - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

amanda11 · 10-23-2008, 11:51 PM

Here's the article

Why did he quit adsense? Because "it doesn't align with his viberation match" or some new age shit, I dunno.

To be honest, if I had made $100k in passive income a year, I would be traveling around the world and doing interesting shit.

Yes Steve, making money with adsense is ethic, so pocket that money, mother fucker.

alexb · 10-23-2008, 11:55 PM

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the biggest single factor in making this move was my shift to a 100% raw vegan diet earlier this year. Once I went 100% raw, the subtle signals from my intuition became louder and clearer. Acting on these intuitive sensations has been causing massive ripples of change throughout all parts of my life. Dropping advertising from my website is just one of many things I’m doing to bring my external reality into better alignment with the new person I’ve become on the inside.

Become vegan, give up on money. Makes sense to me.

P.S. Enjoy your early-onset osteoporosis.

keynes · 10-24-2008, 12:07 AM

I'm sure he can make more with direct ad sales and partnerships anyway - this is just link bait under the guise of altruism...

LotsOfZeros · 10-24-2008, 12:17 AM

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I just want to enjoy this plunge in income for a while.....I want to remain open to what triggers my intuition and inspires my imagination.....I feel totally at peace with this new direction

What a goof. The incense he burns all day is clouding his better judgment.

elime · 10-24-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by alexb

Become vegan, give up on money. Makes sense to me.

P.S. Enjoy your early-onset osteoporosis.

Darn right. I just had a huge slab of prime rib and a baked potato slathered in sour cream tonight. It was awesome.

emp · 10-24-2008, 03:10 AM

Urghs.. did not realize it was Steve Pavlina we were talkign about.

Guy started out as an independent software shop doing games. Did OK and had a good blog and a nice forum targeted to that niche (ISV, not games).

Then he decided to become a motivation guru / speaker / vegan / esoteric nutjob.

He quit the forum, made that blog and has been hugging trees ever since.

Seriously, the guy peddles "the Secret" and other stuff along the same IQ flatline.

::emp::

Xrproto · 10-24-2008, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emp

Urghs.. did not realize it was Steve Pavlina we were talkign about.

Guy started out as an independent software shop doing games. Did OK and had a good blog and a nice forum targeted to that niche (ISV, not games).

Then he decided to become a motivation guru / speaker / vegan / esoteric nutjob.

He quit the forum, made that blog and has been hugging trees ever since.

Seriously, the guy peddles "the Secret" and other stuff along the same IQ flatline.

::emp::

HAHAHAHA

Rusky · 10-24-2008, 04:30 AM

" Adsense hasn’t been my top income generator for more than two years."

"The majority of my income currently comes from joint-venture promotions"

His just focusing on the 80% of his income and leaving the other 20%. It always focus on the productive shit. You make more money that way. His like the Tony Robbins of internet motivation. Adsense is just a distraction, when you're trying to sell product.

Armakuni · 10-24-2008, 06:46 AM

But you've got to admire his marketing skillz. He seems to be doing OK.

slayerment · 10-24-2008, 07:05 AM

I respect the choice, it forces him to try something new and shows that money doesn't blind his decisions.

Not everything in life is about trying to squeeze the most amount of money that you can out of people. Seriously, it's just money.

turbolapp · 10-24-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emp

Urghs.. did not realize it was Steve Pavlina we were talkign about.

Guy started out as an independent software shop doing games. Did OK and had a good blog and a nice forum targeted to that niche (ISV, not games).

Then he decided to become a motivation guru / speaker / vegan / esoteric nutjob.

He quit the forum, made that blog and has been hugging trees ever since.

Seriously, the guy peddles "the Secret" and other stuff along the same IQ flatline.

::emp::

The Secret. Talk about mass sheperdary. Baaa.

JamesH · 10-24-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayerment

Not everything in life is about trying to squeeze the most amount of money that you can out of people. Seriously, it's just money.

Get money get paid. - ChiCity

coolnhot · 10-24-2008, 01:19 PM

Whatever this guy is or does I know for sure he writes good content. Readers and bots like that. It can only be good for both.

symptic · 10-24-2008, 01:42 PM

He makes more money elsewhere and is focusing on whatever it may be. What's wrong with that? Life's not always about money, especially for people like him for have some and want enjoyment out of their lives rather than more money to pad their bank account with.

gdubs12345 · 10-24-2008, 03:38 PM

It's because he's "an Aries after all, not a Taurus". That makes sense because im a taurus and i would be more that happy to accept 100k a year for doing nothing

amateursurgeon · 10-25-2008, 09:09 AM

I think what he's doing is a very sensible move - his blog is a long term project, and he's managed to build quite a brand for himself.

Steve Pavlina's business is based around building up trust with his readership and then leveraging that trust to sell them products which are related to his area of expertise. To be able to do that, he has to be congruent and authentic.

Having ads for things which conflict with his message hurts his authenticity, and long term is likely to be reduce the amount of money he'll make from selling his "joint venture" stuff.

It's the same reason that I wouldn't dream of pushing affiliate offers to my main business's mailing list. I'd ruin the trust I've built up with my prospects, and hurt my long term income as a result.

I think this will make his business more profitable.

Trademark · 10-25-2008, 12:16 PM

I've always admired Pavlina's approach. He's thoughtful and methodical. Awhile back, he posted the results of a sleeping experiment he had undergone. According to his post, he followed the same regimen as certain sects of the military.

The reason I bring that up is because it's an example of how Pavlina seems (I don't know the man) to approach everything. He tests things. Then, he reviews the results. He keeps what works for him and chucks the rest. I imagine he's done the same with his traffic, click stream data, and Adsense earnings.

I don't agree with everything he's published. But, he's relentless with his testing and application. And from a marketer's point of view, that's worthy of respect.

Plus, he writes well.

Lapris · 10-25-2008, 06:41 PM

Oh yeah, I get it - veganism makes your brain shrink, having a shrunken brain makes you do stupid things like throw away money.....

:R:

gesman · 10-25-2008, 07:03 PM

My .002
Steve Pavlina is a workhorse writer. He writes about anything self-help and new-age and related terms under the sun. And he is good at it. He is GREAT at it. He is fast writer. While you drink beer and spend 1hr+ on a phone with your current g/f and chatting with your current online g/f's - he writes. Did i mention he is a great writer? And he was doing it for ages. And he loves it. Google crawler experiences orgasm every time it crawls his properties as there is always something fresh happened on his site and it is not auto generated and it is not RSS fed.
So after 10 or so years the guy is making 100k+ just from the lame adsense. He certainly could grow up to higher hights via JV's and partnerships with serious businesses.
And he is in self-help - in the current economy everyone is looking for some kind of (self)?help.

Personally my best turn off - is adsense ads. When i look for help and visit brand new site and see Adsense over there - it almost automatically goes to my "never visit again" list. *spam*! Serious intelligent people very rare put adsense on their work unless it's an BFAS sites.

Just... rambling...

G.

Abel1337 · 10-25-2008, 09:03 PM

This guy is crazy unless he found out how to make more money elsewhere..

Greenfire · 10-25-2008, 10:17 PM

Regardless of his other sources of income people break their neck trying to earn that kind of money on adsense so i find it unusual that he would turn his back on it.

JohnCJackson · 10-26-2008, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gesman

My .002
Steve Pavlina is a workhorse writer. He writes about anything self-help and new-age and related terms under the sun. And he is good at it. He is GREAT at it. He is fast writer. While you drink beer and spend 1hr+ on a phone with your current g/f and chatting with your current online g/f's - he writes. Did i mention he is a great writer? And he was doing it for ages. And he loves it. Google crawler experiences orgasm every time it crawls his properties as there is always something fresh happened on his site and it is not auto generated and it is not RSS fed.
So after 10 or so years the guy is making 100k+ just from the lame adsense. He certainly could grow up to higher hights via JV's and partnerships with serious businesses.
And he is in self-help - in the current economy everyone is looking for some kind of (self)?help.

Personally my best turn off - is adsense ads. When i look for help and visit brand new site and see Adsense over there - it almost automatically goes to my "never visit again" list. *spam*! Serious intelligent people very rare put adsense on their work unless it's an BFAS sites.

Just... rambling...

G.

When he got out prison, he also completed a double-major in 1 semester. Then he decided to only sleep for 30 minutes a day once every other week so he could write all his articles. He started making a couple grand a year. Then his wife called the spirits to endow him with $50k a month super guru powers. He gave up all food, while his wife eats 13 vergan fake chocolate cakes per day. He subsists off pure sunlight and sniffing her taint.

This guy is a workaholic.

JohnCJackson · 10-26-2008, 12:47 AM

As far as the actual topic goes, a lot of the responses jump to conclusions. For one thing it's PR/Linkbait. For another, there is no such thing as "giving up" something if it is replaced with something more valuable. Assuming you have finite advertising space, work hours,etc you simply don't just simultaneously use every possible revenue stream available. Adsense is far from the only way to make money and for many websites it is terrible.

IIRC John Chow did the same thing, and his (claimed) earnings were not hurt at all. $100K is nothing to some people doing revenue and it could be holding some sites back.

rgordon83 · 10-26-2008, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LotsOfZeros

What a goof. The incense he burns all day is clouding his better judgment.

What's wrong with incense? I got the nagchampa going right now...

Mr. Websites · 10-26-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayerment

Not everything in life is about trying to squeeze the most amount of money that you can out of people.

You are so mistaken.

Arkad · 10-26-2008, 06:04 PM

I wouldn't knock Pavlina - he's smarter than you.

I agree with surgeon, makes a lot of sense.

amanda11 · 10-27-2008, 01:58 AM

Pavlina maybe smarter then me, but at least I don't got a chubby dubby wife.

$5 Submissions · 10-27-2008, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keynes

I'm sure he can make more with direct ad sales and partnerships anyway - this is just link bait under the guise of altruism...

Great linkbait. Nice little buzz it generated.

$5 Submissions · 10-27-2008, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnCJackson

When he got out prison, he also completed a double-major in 1 semester. Then he decided to only sleep for 30 minutes a day once every other week so he could write all his articles. He started making a couple grand a year. Then his wife called the spirits to endow him with $50k a month super guru powers. He gave up all food, while his wife eats 13 vergan fake chocolate cakes per day. He subsists off pure sunlight and sniffing her taint.

This guy is a workaholic.

You serious? What did he go to jail for?

amanda11 · 10-27-2008, 10:14 PM

Jailed for chronic shop lifting, lol.

Rusky · 10-27-2008, 10:19 PM

He had a compulsive stealing problem. Went to jail for stealing a car. Had an epiphany and became an over achiever.

10-23-2008, 11:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
amanda11 Hustle hard Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,445 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Guy makes $100k a year in adsense; decides to quit adsense Here's the article Why did he quit adsense? Because "it doesn't align with his viberation match" or some new age shit, I dunno. To be honest, if I had made $100k in passive income a year, I would be traveling around the world and doing interesting shit. Yes Steve, making money with adsense is ethic, so pocket that money, mother fucker. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2008, 12:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
keynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: stL Posts: 170 iTrader: 11 / 100%	I'm sure he can make more with direct ad sales and partnerships anyway - this is just link bait under the guise of altruism... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

10-24-2008, 03:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
emp Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,977 iTrader: 17 / 100%	Urghs.. did not realize it was Steve Pavlina we were talkign about. Guy started out as an independent software shop doing games. Did OK and had a good blog and a nice forum targeted to that niche (ISV, not games). Then he decided to become a motivation guru / speaker / vegan / esoteric nutjob. He quit the forum, made that blog and has been hugging trees ever since. Seriously, the guy peddles "the Secret" and other stuff along the same IQ flatline. ::emp:: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Your Logical Fallacies - know them to avoid them That's because all programmers are also ninjas.(but not all ninjas are programmers) - LogicFlux Blind Ape Seo

10-24-2008, 04:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rusky Unemployed for 8 years Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thinking Chair Posts: 1,759 iTrader: 8 / 100%	" Adsense hasn’t been my top income generator for more than two years." "The majority of my income currently comes from joint-venture promotions" His just focusing on the 80% of his income and leaving the other 20%. It always focus on the productive shit. You make more money that way. His like the Tony Robbins of internet motivation. Adsense is just a distraction, when you're trying to sell product. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Green Green, Yellow.

10-24-2008, 06:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
Armakuni The Last Ninja Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 315 iTrader: 19 / 100%	But you've got to admire his marketing skillz. He seems to be doing OK. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ - He who cannot obey himself will be commanded. That is the nature of living creatures.

10-24-2008, 07:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
slayerment Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Posts: 529 iTrader: 30 / 100%	I respect the choice, it forces him to try something new and shows that money doesn't blind his decisions. Not everything in life is about trying to squeeze the most amount of money that you can out of people. Seriously, it's just money. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Bad music Stupid blog

10-24-2008, 01:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
coolnhot Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Whatever this guy is or does I know for sure he writes good content. Readers and bots like that. It can only be good for both. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2008, 01:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
symptic I run companies. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 160 iTrader: 11 / 100%	He makes more money elsewhere and is focusing on whatever it may be. What's wrong with that? Life's not always about money, especially for people like him for have some and want enjoyment out of their lives rather than more money to pad their bank account with. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Yours truly,

10-24-2008, 03:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
gdubs12345 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,652 iTrader: 8 / 100%	It's because he's "an Aries after all, not a Taurus". That makes sense because im a taurus and i would be more that happy to accept 100k a year for doing nothing Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-25-2008, 09:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
amateursurgeon Chloroform Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Behind you. Posts: 2,689 iTrader: 3 / 100%	I think what he's doing is a very sensible move - his blog is a long term project, and he's managed to build quite a brand for himself. Steve Pavlina's business is based around building up trust with his readership and then leveraging that trust to sell them products which are related to his area of expertise. To be able to do that, he has to be congruent and authentic. Having ads for things which conflict with his message hurts his authenticity, and long term is likely to be reduce the amount of money he'll make from selling his "joint venture" stuff. It's the same reason that I wouldn't dream of pushing affiliate offers to my main business's mailing list. I'd ruin the trust I've built up with my prospects, and hurt my long term income as a result. I think this will make his business more profitable. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Exact Match Domains still work well for SEO Get lists of profitable ones at EMDLists.com

10-25-2008, 12:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
Trademark Need Articles? PM me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 615 iTrader: 57 / 100%	I've always admired Pavlina's approach. He's thoughtful and methodical. Awhile back, he posted the results of a sleeping experiment he had undergone. According to his post, he followed the same regimen as certain sects of the military. The reason I bring that up is because it's an example of how Pavlina seems (I don't know the man) to approach everything. He tests things. Then, he reviews the results. He keeps what works for him and chucks the rest. I imagine he's done the same with his traffic, click stream data, and Adsense earnings. I don't agree with everything he's published. But, he's relentless with his testing and application. And from a marketer's point of view, that's worthy of respect. Plus, he writes well. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Article Rates For WickedFire Members! Click here to read what your fellow WickedFire Members have said about my article-writing service.

10-25-2008, 06:41 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lapris Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 349 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Oh yeah, I get it - veganism makes your brain shrink, having a shrunken brain makes you do stupid things like throw away money..... :R: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "The art of good business is being a good middleman...putting people together." __________________ "special in keeping with big bus , small car, train, open country outing etc. situation uses, delivering the standard promulgation along with the arithmetic figure television ground, this market potential bigness!"

10-25-2008, 07:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
gesman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0%	My .002 Steve Pavlina is a workhorse writer. He writes about anything self-help and new-age and related terms under the sun. And he is good at it. He is GREAT at it. He is fast writer. While you drink beer and spend 1hr+ on a phone with your current g/f and chatting with your current online g/f's - he writes. Did i mention he is a great writer? And he was doing it for ages. And he loves it. Google crawler experiences orgasm every time it crawls his properties as there is always something fresh happened on his site and it is not auto generated and it is not RSS fed. So after 10 or so years the guy is making 100k+ just from the lame adsense. He certainly could grow up to higher hights via JV's and partnerships with serious businesses. And he is in self-help - in the current economy everyone is looking for some kind of (self)?help. Personally my best turn off - is adsense ads. When i look for help and visit brand new site and see Adsense over there - it almost automatically goes to my "never visit again" list. spam! Serious intelligent people very rare put adsense on their work unless it's an BFAS sites. Just... rambling... G. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-25-2008, 09:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
Abel1337 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 / 0%	This guy is crazy unless he found out how to make more money elsewhere.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-25-2008, 10:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
Greenfire Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Posts: 175 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Regardless of his other sources of income people break their neck trying to earn that kind of money on adsense so i find it unusual that he would turn his back on it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Premiership Football Blog Sports Nutrition Blog

10-26-2008, 12:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
JohnCJackson Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 483 iTrader: 13 / 100%	As far as the actual topic goes, a lot of the responses jump to conclusions. For one thing it's PR/Linkbait. For another, there is no such thing as "giving up" something if it is replaced with something more valuable. Assuming you have finite advertising space, work hours,etc you simply don't just simultaneously use every possible revenue stream available. Adsense is far from the only way to make money and for many websites it is terrible. IIRC John Chow did the same thing, and his (claimed) earnings were not hurt at all. $100K is nothing to some people doing revenue and it could be holding some sites back. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-26-2008, 06:04 PM	#26 (permalink)
Arkad Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I wouldn't knock Pavlina - he's smarter than you. I agree with surgeon, makes a lot of sense. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-27-2008, 01:58 AM	#27 (permalink)
amanda11 Hustle hard Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,445 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Pavlina maybe smarter then me, but at least I don't got a chubby dubby wife. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-27-2008, 10:14 PM	#30 (permalink)
amanda11 Hustle hard Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,445 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Jailed for chronic shop lifting, lol. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-27-2008, 10:19 PM	#31 (permalink)
Rusky Unemployed for 8 years Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thinking Chair Posts: 1,759 iTrader: 8 / 100%	He had a compulsive stealing problem. Went to jail for stealing a car. Had an epiphany and became an over achiever. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Green Green, Yellow.

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