emp

Besides 7search and searchfeed, what would recommended 2nd and 3rd tier PPC search engines be?

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If it's in terms of traffic and how to attract them, use message boards or social networking groups to locate your target niche, and give potential users an incentive to stay and generate content. You may also want to run a contest or two to get them jazzed up about it. Running a "tell your friend" link too can't hurt.

If it's in terms of monetizing, adsense or YPN is a good choice, but make sure you keep everything completely relevant. Utilize the picture advice for adsense that I wrote in one of the answers above. If it's a very very niche site, and you are able to get a minimum of 2k uniques to it, you can apply to TribalFusion or Casale, they love very targeted niche sites that don't have a huge or broad number of comeptitors.

Also try and strike up syndication deals or partnerships with potential competitors who have been in the market space for longer than you. If you grow larger, you can cut them off or buy them out and dominate your marketshare.

I have no idea, ask your affiliate manager. Maybe something with lead gen in mind that is easy to get signups for that don't require a credit card? Something along the lines of email/zip submits that payout $1.10 or one of those bizopp offers than payout $4 or so for people looking to get rich with a home business. Those two do very well with a small budget. You have to figure out a niche or two for yourself that you can potentially do well with marketing and creativity goes.

Both. Why limit yourself to just one? That would be silly.

I can't really say, not because I don't want to, but because they change so often. The thing is that one shitty ppc engine may be better for 10 specific niches, but bad for 500 others. There are so many to choose from it's really a game of trial and error with your niches to pick something that works. In your case since you are based in Germany, I would target German traffic with German contextual ads. I'm sure the amount of ppc arbitragers for that is slim to none, so you can easily gain the upperhand with the knowledge from here.

There are a lot of scripts that you can buy or get for free. We use a custom one. You'll have to search the threads here for names of some, or ask around, or even just search the engines for something, compare the pros and cons of each, and use your best judgement when you buy it.

You can always try using blog search engines like feedburner or technorati. Yahoo also has a good one, and I know Google is trying to have a good one. If it's not blog traffic you are interested in, then try doing a unique search on an engine for "RSS + niche" or "RSS + keyword", that may get you some better and more unique results.

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jerxs

Have you run into any copyright issues with your scraper sites? Or does a link back, like you mentioned, usually ease a pissed off author. Im using allot of copyrighted shit and am worried that I may run into trouble down the road.

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That is a good idea and one I have been mulling over for quite some time.

German traffic is a two edged sword, actually.
The traffic numbers just do not compare to US traffic. People who speak English (most) also use english pages a lot of the time.

Still, thanks for bringing that back to my attention.

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Suppose you only have access to a blogger-account and a basic affiliate program, what would you do with it, how would you make your profit best?

jerxs

Probably to late, but an example would be content from the associated press and others like them.

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1. Should a newbie promote ringtone offers with 7search traffic?

(yes/no):

2. How would you go about cloaking an iframe from serp bots?

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Cloaking will always work to some degree just so long as search engines don't require you to pay to get every domain you want inside their index. It still makes lots of people a lot of money, but you do have to focus more on volume now than before. It's not an easy or simple field to get into, so if you want to really take a crash course, go to seoblackhat.com and pay to join his forums, I don't know from experience, but I heard they have a lot of good material on there. There are also a bunch of other black hat boards, just search for them or ask someone here, I don't know them all offhand.

You're welcome.

Niches, ehh, anything really. There is no ONE sacred niche, just don't use the "mesothelioma" shit, because that is a flag to be banned quickly and every idiot goes for that. You have to decide on your own. I used to use nichebot.com has a good place to find niches. Some people here use nichetaxi.com too (I think that's the url). There are so many tools and programs now that you can easily use and find niches. Try and look around at things that cost a lot of money for a sale, usually B2B stuff or medical procedures, and make your mark there and start up.

I wish I had resources, but I am all self-taught from it. It's not that tough of a concept, and I did all of my learning through trial and error, and asking other people questions about it.

[quote=Matt;75680]I'm not going to be around for this, so could someone ask the following question for me please:

No idea. Seriously, I use a credit card, so I don't know about who takes paypal and why or why not. If you have a bank debit card with a Visa or Mastercard logo on it, then you can use that instead of paypal.

Directories that are niche specific and relevant, but get indexed in the engines often enough and pass on weight to their links. Then just apply. Some of the paid directories are also really good, and for $20 a year, they are sometimes very worthwhile. There are a lot of sites that report on these directories, so search around for it.

3 ad units per page, maybe 4 (I think the max is 4?). You want to make it so that it looks like it belongs, and not so that it sticks out. You may also want to make references to the images over the ads, so that people reading it may click on the ads under it. Either way, you can use lots of legal and creative tactics to increase the CTR, but you never want to seem overbearing on the ads within the content.

There was a thread on here either I posted or maybe someone else did, I forget by now, but it listed a ton of different 2nd and 3rd tier engines. I'd only use the 3rd tier engines as a last resort, because 3rd tiers have a tendency to have more engines and bot traffic than actual people searching. 2nd tier isn't expensive at all and will typically have minimum bid prices of $0.01-$0.05, so stick with those. NEVER buy cpm's or any of those "10,000 visitors" packages, because those are absolute shit.

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What do you think are potentially huge emerging markets coming in the next year or so? Don't have to give specific niches...just general shit.

Jon

Never ran into any issues. The most trouble you can encounter is someone emailing you asking to remove it, which you should. But syndication through RSS works in many ways, they help boost your readerbase, but they also create means for other people to syndicate your content on their site, even though you get a link back. Which is fine in my book, but it seems a few people here and there have issues with it.

If you are knowingly using copyrighted information you should definitely get permission for it first. With RSS that doesn't apply because the author is allowing people to accept the feed and syndicate it. But if you are doing something else and literally using copyright content without RSS then you either need to remove it or get permission to use it. Again, the most that may happen is you'll get an email from a pissed off person asking to remove it, by which you should comply and apologize, but you may want to ask if it's okay if you give a link back (which you should have done in the first place).

No problem. Just put it into German, not English. I'm sure with the big rise in ad spending online from the EU countries you can capitalize on it with content sites or arbitrage sites even. Hell, I don't know German well enough to write about it, so you have me beaten! Goodluck, and definitely keep me posted on it. I am very curious to see how it pans out.

This sounds like one of those ebook interview challenges. I would never limit myself to those two things, and even so, they are way too general to give out any sort of good answer. But sure, I'll play along.

I would take the blogger account and make it a fan based blog about something with very little competition, but with enough monthly searches. Then I would take an affiliate program that focuses on magazines or movie rentals, and use those programs as an incentive to join or use if they want to get very secret information about the person or topic you are blogging about. I would also use aweber and make an email newsletter and upsell them through offers on that maybe? All I know is it would be a royal pain in the ass to look after and monetize, but it would work if you keep up with it, and if not, well, then next time don't buy an ebook with silly questions and answers like this one.

1- Absolutely not. Take the money you are going to spend there and just donate it to charity, because it will have better use there than in the 7search campaign.

2- You're asking the wrong person. Ask Quadszilla over at seoblackhat.com and tell him you love WickedFire more than SEOBlackHat, he likes hearing that.

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A very general answer would be mobile services. Not ringtones, but mobile services like texting services, etc. They are still pretty small now, but those jokes via mobile or the dating on the phone stuff will be fucking huge. Most phones now come with mp3 compatibility so ringtones are a thing of the past, not to mention ringtones will be losing their groud really soon as there is far too much fraud, and the government should be cracking down on it really soon.

Another huge emerging market, which is actually somewhat of a sleeping giant is the UK market via affiliate marketing. It's been around for many years, but nowhere near the peak it can potentially hit over the next 2 years or less. Sure, we prefer to be paid in USD, but buyers in the UK are everywhere and they, like us, like to spend lots of cash on really stupid things. So the overall potential in so many markets is just unfathomable. You'll start seeing and hearing more people talk about it over the next year or so as it develops more and more, but this is DEFINITELY something to look out for or to get into asap before the boom happens.

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Quickest way into Google?

Jon

Get another site that gets updated often, that is also relevant to your niche to link to you. By way of blogs is a really awesome way, but any site can do.

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Jdog

newbie affiliate, start with google, yahoo or msn?

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Why is Lee gay?

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For advertising?

Because he likes to suck dick.

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Jon

Let's go... I'll give you guys 20 minutes extra.

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7pm EST it ends.

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Jdog

When doing affiliate do you try and make a mini site that will eventually get organic traffic?

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Jdog

Yeah, for advertising.

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Jdog

If you are new to the business, what kinds of things or information should we be looking for at conferences like ASW?

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I used to only go that route, but over the last year or two broke into dividing up between focusing strictly on SEO to 50% of each. Now we do a lot more focus on PPC because it's quicker and easier, and the results have been well worth it to spend some extra cash, but in turn the ROI's have been amazing for the most part. We still focus on SEO, but only basics now, because we don't have the time or patience to do a full SEO job on it anymore, all that upkeep for what? To play slave to the dominant engines? Fuck that. If it ranks well, great, if not, we just put more towards PPC and generate a hell of a lot more profit that way.

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Scraping. Would you choose RSSGM or MyGen or the RSSGMAI (Auto Installer)?

Chris

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I'd take some time to talk to the booth owners and see what they have to say, and how it would help ME and MY business overall, not theirs. You'll want to look for traffic sources, affiliate networks that give good payouts but also have high conversion rates, and anything that has to do with cheap hosting and domains. Your goal should be to build up your contact rolladex with everyone, but in a way so that it is geared towards your goals, not theirs. Taking everyone's business cards will only get you the cards, not good standing relationships with people you want to work with on a long term basis. Also, don't be shy to come right out and say you are a newbie, everyone usually likes to throw around big figures, so be realistic and let them know too, they will respect you more, and let's face it, they will see the real numbers when you use them, so lying to make yourself feel good is just plain silly.

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Jdog

When trying a new ppc to aff campaign do you start advertising with google only and move on to yahoo and msn, or hammer all 3 and see what works best?

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You make your money. Then you reinvest some, use some for living expenses, but what kind of vehicles does jon put his money in to make it grow?

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Jon

I've never used either of those because we have always had a custom script of our own. I've heard of both, but can't say for sure or from any experience. Use your best judgement and ask people here or at other forums what they would use and why, then compare the pros and cons and again, use your best judgement to buy.

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nintendo wii or ps3?

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DruSam

When promoting affiliate offers with PPC do you try to make your sites SEO friendly as well?

Jdog

Do you think people are getting to caught up in the arbitrage thing and not working on other things?

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I come up with a conservative campaign that we run in all three, but really, we don't even use Yahoo all that much to begin with, so I like to focus on MSN and Adwords the most. We then compare keywords, prices, CTR's and conversions. That should help you establish what works best with what traffic.

I personally have investments in some hedge funds that my father got me into last Winter/Spring. Aside for that, I personally just save 90% of my cash for the future. When I create a new business, I like to spend as little as possible and make as much from that. That's where I get my biggest challenge and signs of success, when I can use little or no startup capital (aside for the fees of the LLC) and turn it into a booming success. Even if I know that investing $100k's will make it profitable a lot quicker and easier, I love the challenge in the tougher smaller guy approach, and it makes me go through those stages and learn more about the new field, which is invaluable. But that's just me.

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sebastya

whats the most effective free directory in terms of SEO?

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nachoninja

rev share or pps with porn?

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agua

Do you recommend building related niche networks (eg. mobile phones, ringtones etc) or random niche mini sites (eg. dildos, teeth whitening, henna art)?

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Do you reccomend trying to sell a specific item on a ppc campaign, like an air compressor or something like that? Rather than the typical affiliate stuff.

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Sometimes. If it's a campaign being run through someone like Copeac, where they have these offers that come and go all the time, no. If it's a longterm type of offer, then yes, but again, that's very rare for me to take on any longlasting offers to promote for, unless I use my own private affiliate program.

Nope, I think people are just kinda surprised that it works, and that it's such a simple concept. I think a lot of people are still too shy or afraid to try it too. On top of the fact that very few people have taken the chance at doing it on a large scale. Most people are doing it on a very small and safe scale, which you can clearly tell who the big boys are and who aren't. With anything, it requires patience, listening to your gut, and taking a chance with at least $10k to turn it into something that will make everything else you do look like a child. With one test we ran, we banked well over $100k in one month from it, and that was merely on a phase 2 test. So if we could do that on a $22k-$30k ad spend budget, imagine what someone REALLY big can accomplish on a larger scale, month after month. Even if you didn't do a large scale run like that, and just kept doing it consistently, the amount of constant cashflow you can generate every month is just enormous.

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PPS for general stuff, for the really niche/fetish stuff go with revshare.

Both! Why can't you do everything at some point? Don't be lazy!

You can try both routes, they are totally different. Just make sure they both go to a landing sales/product page of some sort, or even a php redirect page. There is no wrong or right answer for this question, it's all up to you, your judgement, the traffic you are targeting, and the way the product or service is pitched on the merchant's site.

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Deliguy

have you figured out any good ways to sneak adsense into wordpress.com accounts?

edit: damn nevermind i missed it by one post
I'm too slow today

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sebastya

didnt get the answer i was looking for, i know dmoz is the ultimate one but whats a little more "possible" to get listed..?

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logiik

Damn it Jon. I've missed three lightning rounds since I've been a member here.