bobomonkey

Just curious how everyone else out there is doing? Seems like it has become a bitch to make money online compared to "the good ol days"

Main thing I've noticed is the attention span of the average person is getting shorter and shorter, and people don't click on shit as much.

Thinking maybe the internet is way over saturated with people trying to make money online.

Too many hot dog carts and not enough wiener eaters?

JamesH

Flog isn't working anymore? Oh noes.

bobomonkey

aaagghh... what do I expect from the world famous dickroll forum. waaaa

TheDean

From what I can tell the Norwegians wired all the money out of the internet between Aug. 2008 and April 2009...

guerilla

Do you want the truth?

It was easy to make money when everyone could get HELOCs and zero interest credit cards. Stupid people who could not get credit because they couldn't qualify (because they are shit with money and fucking useless) now were rolling in bowcooo dollars.

Now credit is going to continue to get tighter, and people are going to start cutting back. The fucktards won't get more credit and most of them will go bankrupt.

For example, I keep running into all of these Real Estate Agent fucks on economics forums, and they are like warriors but think the entire internet is Yahoo and Facebook. They were flipping houses, without knowing anything about anything. They were leveraged up, and didn't even understand the fucking basics of asset appreciation.

Now they are ruined and out of the game. These were the same fucktards that would buy google bizops and never even look at it after purchase, because it was an impulse buy and all their quasi-retarded brains could comprehend was grabbing money everywhere like those people in those glass cages with the currency notes and the blower fan.

So yes there are less weiner eaters, and yes they will be more discriminating, and this is probably not the first time you have heard this, but you have an unattractive hot dog.

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greenleaves

Having been playing the SEO game for the last 7 years I must say it is harder to make the moniez onlines

But it is still a hell of a lot easier than making money offline.

Danc1122

In a few years from now people will be looking back saying... "Remember the good ol' days of using flogs to promote rebills?"

GeeFo

The online market has gotten pretty flooded over the past few years, its hard to keep up sometimes..

jryan21

There used to be a time when companies paid $0.01 or more per banner impression and didn't know shit about bots or how to check for them. If you depended on a pay-per-impression business model, then you went under when the advertisers dropped those programs.

There's no way anyone survives online if they are not diverse and open to change- really rapid change. If someone puts a big slab of concrete in front of you, don't try to dig under it when you can just take a few steps and walk around it.

yellowarrior

I agree that the quick buck is a bit more difficult lately, however it is easier to have a good diverse income.

neablas

regardless of anything - there will ALWAYS be stupid (ignorant if you prefer) people with at least 10 dollars on their cc or debit cards. There seems to be a ceiling lately from what I can tell - aside from that - yes it's saturated - but the guys who know what they're doing still prevail.

motivebrendan

yup it does get more difficult as every damn year goes by. I have been doing Affiliate Marketing and all aspects of online marketing since 1996! I have seen ups and downs but in retrospect more ups than downs and putting it all in perspective online businesses and specifically online marketing is still in its infancy. The key is to adapt with the inevitable changes in our fickle industry and our turbulent economic environment - be creative, stay focused, take chances, and drinks lots of fluids.

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Traffic-Bug

yes it is difficult.

allco

heh, remember back in 1997ish era? Gooogle wasn't even released yet (or in an early stage of developement) There was basically Commission Junction and one other AD Network. Companies would pay 5 - 20 cents per click - they were just happy to get the word out on their websites.

Man, if all you young guys were doing PPC back then with all the knowledge you have now - no joke you would all be multi-zillionaires. The Raping of Yahoo, Google and other mini engines, the lack of rules.... wow....


Yeah - always focus on the solution, and keep in mind when tight times are among us - it's a bit of a shakedown of the fly-by nighters, if you can hang in there for the long run and diversify - you will survive. IMHO

Sonny Forelli

are you kidding me? What other business can someone, with no employees, make sales 24 hours a day without (assuming setup correctly) human input?

Those who feel making money online is 'a pain' have obviously a) not thought outside the box or b) never worked in a shitty corporate job filled with nonsense and lots of humans doing lots of things that can't be automated to keep the money furnace going.

I've been in the online realm since '99 - if you don't honestly see LIMITLESS potential especially now with little things like prosper, wordpress, umteenmillion ecommerce shopping cart backends (including good open source solutions) etc etc etc you're crazy.

Just b/c your acai flog took a shit or that you can't slang poor quality refi/debt leads to idiots doesn't mean that the internet is broken.


Until then the concept of me making money while out on a longboard sitting in the lineup, while automation/technology runs a business that is infinitely more scalable than any brick and mortar could dream of is the best thing since sliced bread to me.

Wicked Ice

^^ *word*

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GrindHard

It's so hard you should just give up, it's not real... duh

windjc

7 months in and lets see...300% ROI today and a profit that when extrapoliated out is over 2.3 million/yr.

Going pretty good over here.

DumDum

I don't know what it would take to appease you but how much easier do you want things to get?
Making money on the internet is already about 10 times easier than making money offline.
The primary reason for this is: You put in an initial investment of time and a bit of money and your money making websites will keep filling up your bank for months to come 24/7. We internet marketers make money even while we're in deep sleep or when we're going for a vacation with family or friends.
When you're sipping a slush at the beach, bathing yourself in the warmth of the sun and checking out hot girls jumping around half naked, you can rest assured that you made more money in timespan that you were sipping the slush than what you paid for it.

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PhillipMarlow

"bowcooo dollars"

Bowcoo is a funny word.

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DumDum

Not funnier than nickycakes :-P
(No offence intended)

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ImagesAndWords

Whoa...

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Bofu2U

NO OFFENSE INTENDED HUH?

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stmadeveloper

Just depends on what your selling/promoting. I'm sure if all you do are the high paying scammy stuff that all deal with rebills you are hitting a ceiling right now.

By the end of the day though, I will (no matter how slow) sell a few physical products that took zero effort and cost nothing more than hosting and domain registrations.

Don't put all your eggs in a single basket - especially when that basket you know is filled with poopoo. (rebills, fat loss, etc...)

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Red_Virus

in Wickedfire style: Adapt Or Die.

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AdHustler

AMEN!

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schockergd

Yes it has, give up now.

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turbolapp

Nah. Just cause the game is changing doesn't mean you hate the game. The players, however, are open season.

vinny lingo

Any time I start thinking that what I do now is difficult, I remember what it was like digging ditches in 120F weather. That shuts down any negative thinking right quick.

TheDean

How else can you explain Norway's economy growing during the global financial meltdown?

I want to learn the Way of the Wegians.

intermanic

Making money online is easier for the rock stars and harder for the groupies.

productionhead

Give people what they want (or what they think they want).

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amanda11

Of course it's harder to make money online nowadays -- that's why I'm back to my old job as a masturbation artist.

zimok

Murderer!

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barman

I blame the jews.

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enovatit

Making money online is difficult than making money offline, that is why I have returned to 9-5 job, where I at least get enough to pay the bills. As every one and his dog want to make money online, it will keep getting harder and harder with every passing day.

montana

in the time you took to type that, I bet 1/2 of this forum has made more money than you make all day at your job.

riddarhusetgal

^^ yeah, what he said....

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riddarhusetgal

MT - you are such a show off!! You are too smart for your own good.

In my neck of the woods, when chicks read quotes by Einstein, Hoffer and Schopenhauer in the same sentence we develop a strange sort of Turret's syndrome which makes us randomly blurt out stuff like "want an olive in your martini dear?", "do you want one ice cube or two?" and "how do you like your shirts ironed?" all at once...

LOL!

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dancashman

maybe cuz he sounds like he's from India. So you only need to make a penny a second to make more than him.

tonyfloyd

Fuckin Madoff!!!!...it's all his fault!!!!!!!

nachoninja

only when I sit on my orange cone instead of my office chair

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pocketrockets

Maybe your wiener doesn't look and taste as good as all the other hot dog cart vendors...

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pickledegg

JUst wait it out till we colonize the moon, the Earths way to saturated.

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thuxen

We can geo target the moon now with our colon flogs? Awesome!

Midas Touch

That's TOO funny!!



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P.S. Now to some Leisure Suite Larry action. LOL!!

The "Show Off" comes from me having mercury in the house of LEO at the time of my Virgo birth in Hawaii. Add to it that I was also born in "The Year of the Dragon" and you will see that it's just my nature.

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Chinese Horoscopes - The Dragon

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Leo explained - All About the zodiac sun sign Leo!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)

Virgo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_(astrology)

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grafixguru36

Yeh. No money to be made here. Be on your way.

JohnCJackson

If you want a serious answer:

I think at every point in time someone is going to be talking about "the good old days."

I have now been making money online or trying to for at least 10 years. And always feel BETTER than "the old days" because I am constantly learning. I think of times when I did NOT make money and now I think " If I knew what I know now back then." Thats life. I just keep doing what I do and improve on things. Sometimes I take a risk and fuck up. Other times I hit something out of the park, but I always learn. The Good Old days for some may have been a few years ago and for others 10-15 years ago. People have always been doing this shit- "Making Money Online." Well not always, but you know what I mean.

I have never really done the flog thing or gone for whatever the hot rebill or easy CPA offer or whatever happens to be big at the time. Personally, my internet business has always been based on a "real" business in the sense that I focus on products or services that people need and want to buy. Usually they fall more in the "need" category, like services that businesses need. Now the exact product that fills a specific need may change over time, but the need still needs to be filled and there is someone willing to fill it and pay internet marketers to either close sales or at least generate leads online. And things have gotten easier for me because as time goes on more and more decision makers are willing to purchase things or at least inquire through a website for certain products. And when the economy is bad people are still looking to buy but they are looking for better deals. For example if you are a business and happen to have stayed afloat you still have to buy certain things to keep running. Same applies to households. People cut out certain shit but not others. There is always opportunity in something. Trends come and go. It's fine chasing them as long as you know how it is and realize you are going to need to adapt. If you know what you are doing and know how to think, you can adapt to whatever methods are current.

I have personally implemented around 0.3% of my "big ideas" when it comes to internet marketing and there are many methods and things that I've yet to even try or at least not master- and there is always shit I can do.

For someone with my personality it is more difficult to make a living "offline" and it's pretty hard to not at least get by from internet marketing. If you have a certain lifestyle inflation and become accustomed to a certain income and bad shit happens, you might be fucked. It all depends. But people who have problems with money have them at all income levels and occupations.

So I might not be optomistic about having an "easy" time making a shitload of money for the forseeable future. But the opportunity to make money online is not going away. A lot of shit isnt easy and a lot of shit isnt insanely lucrative.

Roundabout

All great posts ladies and gents. My input:

Things only get harder if you're a lazy fuck, or a stupid fuck.

The average Internet Marketer with a normal IQ is probably making a couple hundred bucks a month.

The hard working, outside-the-box thinkers, innovators, make the big bucks.

And those with balls of steel, well, they're in the mansions.

Classify yourself, and think about it.