Old Goat

This makes me SO angry. If the KKK had been outside the polls with Billy clubs - they would have been put UNDER the jail. But Obama's BLACK Attorney General Eric Holder, has quietly decided NOT to prosecute these Black Panthers. HHmmmm? HOW did this country put these people in power?


You can see for yourself they were clearly intimidating voters - just the way they were dressed did that. Witnesses report them shouting racial slurs at people such as, "Now you will see what it feels like to be ruled by the Black Man - Cracker!" Yet... Holder has decided NOT to prosecute them even though he has numerous witnesses and video - a SLAM DUNK case.
We ALL know what would happen if this had been the KKK or a bunch of Skin HEads, but the Panthers get a pass.

Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept. - Political News - FOXNews.com

For those of you who have some aversion to Fox news, the info is out there on a FEW other outlets - but the Obama Media is, of course, not getting this out there the way it should be reported. ALL Americans should be outraged at this blatant hypocrisy.

brack1969

Soon enough the Black Panthers will become "tax collectors".

subigo

Every four weeks this pops up in the news again. Not that I give a shit either way, but Bush didn't do anything about it either.

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Old Goat

"The DOJ filed a lawsuit under the Voting Rights Act against the NBPPSD and three of its members alleging the defendants intimidated Philadelphia voters during the Nov. 4, 2008 general election. The action was filed in January before President George W. Bush left office."

Subigo, I understand you have some liberal leanings, but this is NOT right under ANY circumstances.

Read this:
Dept. Of Justice Drops New Black Panthers Case - The Philadelphia Bulletin

Deliguy

The title of this thread is "Obama Team Gives Black Panthers A Pass"

I didn't see Obama in the video. I didn't read anything about Obama telling these guys they can stand there or giving any sort of permission nor walk by and high five 'em. Obama is black and so are the two guys in the video so you thought you had some kind of fuckin permission to make some bullshit title just to grab attention and waste everyones time. It's as if you thought this video needed some sleezy damn lie to sell it to us because normally we'd just skip over your dipshit no brained threads, OR possibly you think we're so stupid that we're going to post a bunch of replies along the lines of OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE OBAMA WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS! You sir are the worst kind of retard. You're the kind of retard that holds up the short bus getting on and makes all the other retards late for special ed. So knock it the fuck off! You're not being cute. You are annoying us.

^Sorry that just irritates me. Where's that pet peeves thread?

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subigo

Yeah, I agree that it's pretty obvious that they were out there trying to intimidate people. But one of the main problems (and I saw this on the news a few months ago but can't find it again) was the fact that they couldn't find anyone willing to testify. Without at least one witness willing to testify, there's really not much anyone can do.

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riddarhusetgal

Have you read any of my posts on HOW TO ACCESS APPROPRIATE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET?!

You're quoting FOX NEW'S about an Obama story. Outside of the foam-at-the mouth far right extremists in the midst, this is not anything people in the main stream are interested in.

Before making the kind of accusations and false analogies like you've stated in your post

DID YOU ACTUALLY TAKE THE FUCKING TIME TO GO TO THE JUSTICE.GOV WEBSITE AND READ THE CASE FILE?????

Civil Rights Division Home Page

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff, v. CIVIL ACTION NO.: 09-0065
NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY
FOR SELF-DEFENSE, an
unincorporated association, MALIK ZULU
SHABAZZ, MINISTER KING SAMIR
SHABAZZ aka MAURICE HEATH, and
JERRY JACKSON,
Defendants. ____________________________________

The United States of America, Plaintiff, alleges:
1. The Attorney General files this action seeking injunctive and declaratory relief pursuant to Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, as amended, 42 U.S.C. § § 1973, 1973i(b) (2000).
2. This Court has jurisdiction of this action pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1345 and 42 U.S.C. § 1973j(f).
3. The Attorney General of the United States has standing to bring this action on behalf of the United States pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1973(j)(d).
4. Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense is an unincorporated association with operations and members throughout the United States, including in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
4. Defendant Malik Zulu Shabazz is an individual residing in Washington, D.C. He is the self-styled "Attorney at War" of the Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, and exercises organizational control as head, or chairman, of the Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense.
5. Defendant Minister King Samir Shabazz a.k.a. Maurice Heath is a resident of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He is leader of the Philadelphia chapter of the Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. 6. Defendant Jerry Jackson is a resident of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He is a member of the Philadelphia chapter of the Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense.

(PART 1)

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PART II


7. Defendants New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, Malik Zulu Shabazz, Samir Shabazz, and Jerry Jackson have engaged in coercion, threats, and intimidation, and attempted coercion, threats, and intimidation of voters, and those aiding voters, in violation of Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b).
8. On November 4, 2008, during the federal general election, the Defendants Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson deployed at the entrance of a polling location at 1221 Fairmount Street in the City of Philadelphia. The Defendants wore military style uniforms associated with the Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. These uniforms included black berets, combat boots, bloused battle dress pants, rank insignia, Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense insignia, and black jackets.
9. During his deployment at the polls on November 4, 2008, at the entrance to the polling location at 1221 Fairmount Street, and in the presence of voters, Defendant Samir Shabazz brandished a deadly weapon. The weapon deployed was a nightstick, or baton. The baton included a contoured grip and wrist lanyard. Throughout the course of this deployment at the polling location, and while the polls were open for voting, Defendant Samir Shabazz pointed the weapon at individuals, menacingly tapped it his other hand, or menacingly tapped it elsewhere. This activity occurred approximately eight to fifteen feet from the entrance to the polling location. Defendant Samir Shabazz was accompanied by Defendant Jerry Jackson during this activity, and the two men stood side by side, in apparent formation, throughout most of this deployment.
10. Defendants Samir Shabazz and Jackson made statements containing racial threats and racial insults at both black and white individuals at 1221 Fairmount Street on November 4, 2008, while the polls were open for voting.
11. At the polling place at 1221 Fairmount Street on November 4, 2008, Defendants Samir Shabazz and Jackson made menacing and intimidating gestures, statements and movements directed at individuals who were present to aid voters.
12. Defendants New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense and Malik Zulu Shabazz managed, directed, and endorsed the behavior, actions and statements of Defendants Samir Shabazz and Jackson at 1221 Fairmount Street on November 4, 2008, alleged in this Complaint. Prior to the election, Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense made statements and posted notice that over 300 members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense would be deployed at polling locations during voting on November 4, 2008, throughout the United States. After the election, Defendant Malik Zulu Shabazz made statements adopting and endorsing the deployment, behavior, and statements of Defendants Samir Shabazz and Jackson at 1221 Fairmount Street in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
13. Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense and Defendant Samir Shabazz avowedly endorse and support racially-motived violence. Defendant Samir Shabazz has made statements attributed to him in various newspapers supporting violence against non-black individuals and violence directed toward non-blacks and Jews. Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense is a black-supremacist organization which uses military-style uniforms, has auxiliary groups such as the "Panther Youth," and is explicitly hostile toward non-black and Jewish individuals in both rhetoric and practice. Defendant New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense has an active presence in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in part through the efforts of Defendant Samir Shabazz.

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PART III


14. Plaintiff hereby realleges and incorporates by reference ¶¶ 1 - 13 above.
15. Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act provides that: "No person,. . . shall intimidate, threaten, or coerce . . . any person for voting or attempting to vote." § 1973i(b).
16. Defendants have violated Section 11(b) by the deployment of armed and uniformed personnel at the entrance to the polling location at 1221 Fairmount Street in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on November 4, 2008. The loud and open use of racial slurs and insults at this polling location, directed at both black and white individuals, enhanced the intimidating and threatening presence at the polling location. The behavior and statements of the Defendants intimidated and threatened voters and potential voters, in violation of Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act.
17. Unless enjoined by this Court, Defendants and those acting in concert with them, will continue to violate Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act by continuing to direct intimidation, threats, and coercion at voters and potential voters, by again deploying uniformed and armed members at the entrance to polling locations in future elections, both in Philadelphia, and throughout the United States.
18. "Whenever any person has engaged" in a violation of Section 11(b) by intimidating or threatening voters, the Attorney General may seek "an action for preventive relief." § 1973j(d).
19. Plaintiff hereby realleges and incorporates by reference ¶¶ 1 - 18 above.
20. Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act provides that: "No person . . . shall . . . attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce" any voter. § 1973i(b). Attempts to intimidate, threaten or coerce voters, violate Section 11(b), even if such attempts are unsuccessful.
21. Defendants have violated Section 11(b) by attempting to intimidate, threaten, or coerce voters by the deployment of armed and uniformed personnel at the entrance to the polling location at 1221 Fairmount Street in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on November 4, 2008. The deployment, and the accompanying behavior, was an attempt to intimidate, threaten, and coerce voters. The brandishing of a weapon at the very entrance of a polling location on November 4, 2008, demonstrates that the Defendants' reliance on the potential use of force was an attempt to have an effect of certain voters. The behavior and statements of the Defendants intimidated and threatened voters and potential voters, in violation of Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act. The deployment of armed and uniformed individuals at the entrance to a polling location represents an attempt to have an intimidating and threatening effect on certain voters.
22. Unless enjoined by this Court, Defendants and those acting in concert with them, will continue to violate Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act by continuing to attempt to intimidate, threaten and coerce voters and potential voters, by again deploying uniformed and armed members at the entrance to polling locations in future elections, both in Philadelphia, and throughout the United States.
23. "Whenever any person has engaged" in a violation of Section 11(b) by attempting to intimidate or threaten voters, the Attorney General may seek "an action for preventive relief."
24. Plaintiff hereby realleges and incorporates by reference ¶¶ 1 - 23 above.
25. Section 11(b) also protects those who aid voters or urge them to vote. Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act provides that: "No person . . . shall . . . intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for urging or aiding any person to vote or attempt to vote." § 1973i(b).
26. The Defendants intimidated and threatened those urging or aiding persons to vote at 1221 Fairmount Street on November 4, 2008 and thereby violated § 1973i(b). These efforts included, but were not limited to, doing the following to protected individuals: brandishing a deadly weapon toward them, directing racial slurs and insults at them, and attempting to prevent their authorized ingress and egress at the polling location through blockage of the entrance and the threat of force.
27. Unless enjoined by this Court, Defendants and those acting in concert with them, will continue to violate Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act by continuing to intimidate, threaten, and coerce individuals urging and aiding voters, by again deploying uniformed and armed members at the entrance to polling locations in future elections, both in Philadelphia, and throughout the United States.
28. "Whenever any person has engaged” in a violation of Section 11(b) by intimidating or threatening those urging and aiding voters, the Attorney General may seek "an action for preventive relief." § 1973j(d).

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LAST PART

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29. Plaintiff hereby realleges and incorporates by reference ¶¶ 1 - 28 above.
30. Section 11(b) protects those who aid voters or urge them to vote. Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act provides that: "No person . . . shall . . . attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for urging or aiding any person to vote or attempt to vote." § 1973i(b).
31. The Defendants attempted to intimidate and threaten those urging or aiding persons to vote at 1221 Fairmount Street on November 4, 2008 and violated § 1973i(b). These efforts included, but were not limited to, doing the following to protected individuals: brandishing a deadly weapon toward them, directing racial slurs and insults at them, and attempting to prevent their authorized ingress and egress at the polling location through blockage of the entrance and the threat of force. These statements and actions evidence an attempt to intimidate or threaten those who were present at the polling place to aid voters.
32. Unless enjoined by this Court, Defendants and those acting in concert with them, will continue to violate Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act by again attempting to intimidate, threaten, and coerce individuals urging and aiding voters, and by again deploying uniformed and armed members at the entrance to polling locations in future elections, both in Philadelphia, and throughout the United States.
33. "Whenever person has engaged" in a violation of Section 11(b) by attempting to intimidate or threaten those urging and aiding voters, the Attorney General may seek "an action for preventive relief." § 1973j(d).
WHEREFORE, the Plaintiff, United States of America, prays for an order that:

(a) Declares that Defendants have violated Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act, 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b), by coercing, threatening, and intimidating voters;
(b) Declares that Defendants have violated Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act, 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b), by attempting to coerce, threaten, and intimidate voters;
(c) Declares that Defendants have violated Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act, 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b), by coercing, threatening, and intimidating those urging or aiding voters to vote;
(d) Declares that Defendants have violated Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act, 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b), by attempting to coerce, threaten, and intimidate those urging or aiding voters to vote;
(e) Permanently enjoins Defendants, their agents and successors in office, and all persons acting in concert with them, from deploying athwart the entrance to polling locations either with weapons or in the uniform of the Defendant New Black Panther Party, or both, and from otherwise engaging in coercing, threatening, or intimidating, behavior at polling locations during elections.
(f) Plaintiff further requests that this Court:

(1) Award Plaintiff the costs and disbursements associated with the filing and maintenance of this action;
(2) Award such other equitable and further relief as the Court deems just and proper.

Respectfully Submitted, MICHAEL B. MUKASEY
Attorney General of the United States
__________/s/______________
GRACE CHUNG BECKER
Acting Assistant Attorney General
Civil Rights Division
_________/s/______________
H. CHRISTOPHER COATES
Chief, Voting Section
_________/s/______________
ROBERT POPPER
Deputy Chief,
Voting Section
________/s/_______________
J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS
Attorney, Voting Section
South Carolina Bar #: 7146
Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
Voting Section
950 Pennsylvania Ave. NW
Room 7124 - NWB
Washington, D.C. 20530
[email protected]
(202) 616-4227

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riddarhusetgal

This is the kind of shit that makes my blood boil
FAUX/FOX NEWS.

THEY KNOW the average person is going to read their twisted analysis of information and accept it as true.

I posted the case file for a reason - it's public information for one....

For another, to illustrate a point here. When the Justice Department "decides" to not evaluate a case, IT IS NOT BECAUSE SOMEONE SENDS THEM A CALL AND SAYS "UH DON'T DO THAT".

IT IS ON THE SPECIFICS OF THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you have not actually ANALYZED each point of the case, you have ABSOLUTELY NO GROUNDS for assuming it is politically motivated.


DID YOU GO THROUGH EACH LEGAL POINT OF THE CASE??????

When cases are filed, there are VERY SPECIFIC points that have to be looked at.

Your whole analogy comparing this situation to what happened to minorities years ago is flat out wrong.

First of all, have you ever been to Philly? I happen to have lived in the area for 4 years so I feel qualified to speak.

Try googling:

1221 Fairmount Avenue


This is NORTH PHILLY. This is a largely MINORITY AREA of the city. So, let's assume that these thugs actually DID INTIMIDATE voters.

You have a punch of black panthers standing around a largely minority neighborhood during a historical election. Forget the fact that those people were probably going to vote for the guy anyhow....

This is hardly similar to some Neo Nazi retards harrassing little old black church ladies not to vote is it? Yet they are careful to show a very doctored video (it's obvious if you've been to that part of the city), no doubt to make it look like a bunch of ghetto thugs are harrassing regular suburban voters instead of the largely minority voters that were likely to have been at that polling station
Map of 1221 Fairmount Ave Philadelphia, PA by MapQuest


I'm so sick of these idiot hate mongers like at Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, etc, trying to stir up bullshit, as if that's really going to fix the economy, health care or those crazies abroad trying to blow stuff up in Pakistan, Iran or Afghanistan...

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turpentine

but obama is a jerk!
he punches babies.

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HelloAll

Jesus a link wouldve been better then reading the case on wf...

RuDeDoGg

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HelloAll

Oh dam RuDeDoGg how do they do that with the dogs? Is it fake or?

turbolapp

Omg, Eli. Are you pissed? I thought you never got mad. AND AT A POLITICAL THREAD????

(I'm so proud of you.)

Edit: I just realized that this thread is closed? wft? Is it a another really gay political thread? Yes but it's in the STS section, and we have man boobs for that. So why is it closed? (UHhh unless I managed to hit the close button by accident or something. Whatever I'm reopening it either way)

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Unarmed Gunman

Clearly those two guys in their Halloween costumes swung the entire election Obama's way. We should at least ban those guys from WickedFire.

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bobsoap

Very good post. The sad part is, only few people will be comfortable reading it because the case file isn't presented as a 1:20 minute video with flashy graphics and dramatic sound effects and a hyped reporter and intimidating keynotes.

popeye

Im glad this precedent was set. Guess in 2010 I will have to pull the jack boots, hair clippers and baseball bat out and stand around the local polls yelling nigger.

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Trademark

Just a quick thought...

It's rash to dismiss an idea merely because of its source. FOX, MSNBC, Infowars... each source produces a constant stream of ideas. Some are sound; others are flawed. Each should be judged upon its individual merit.

Dismissing an idea simply because it comes from a Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal, warmonger, or beatnik is dangerous.

I apologize for taking this off the rails and now surrender the conch.

On with the verbal beatings.

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1. Obama appointed Eric Holder to be his Attorney General, therefore, the buck stops with the President.

2. The video was not shot or posted on YouTube by Fox News ( they just played it) - it was shot by a college student.

3. The Justice Dept. did all that nifty stuff against these thugs BEFORE Obama took office - this was a slam dunk case, but the new Justice Dept. under Eric Holder ( Obama) has decided not to pursue it. THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG.

4. I listed a source from the Philadelphia Paper
Dept. Of Justice Drops New Black Panthers Case - The Philadelphia Bulletin

this is from the Washington Times
EDITORIAL: Protecting Black Panthers - Washington Times

Both, you will notice, are NOT FOX NEWS.

The people on Fox News said that if anyone DARES to say ANYTHING against Obama or his regime, they WILL BE RUTHLESSLY ATTACKED.

This, sadly, seems to be the case

I thought on here there would be some discussion, but I never expected to be attacked like this. I have always tried to be respectful of other people - no name calling. But, I fear ... this is dying with my generation. God help us all.

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bobsoap

When you say "Obama regime", that sounds so wrong. How about we just use the not-so-tainted term "dictatorship" from now on, agreed?

popeye

Get used to it. The Obamabots have nothing left to stand on. Their savior is failing and bringing the country down with him. They turn to personal insult because they have no other ground to stand on.

The progresive Obmabots have found out and put to practice their only weapon: Personally attack ANYONE that doesn't agree. Call them racist, hate mongers, scare tacticians. Yell this loud enough and frequent enough and usually the non obamabot will tire and shut up.

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turpentine

i would have attacked you personally anyways. It is just who I am.
you are gay and like to viddy da spinnin' dick without reprise.
but I would like to know how he is failing and bringing the country down.
saying he is isn't really a good way to convince me.
Like my statement about your sexuality above it doesn't do anything.
Unless I where to back it up with a video of you just drooling at a dickroll for 15 mins, its just like some homeless guy on the street yelling HEY MAN! FUCK YOU! HEY YOU FUCKKKK
so next time you want people to agree with you relate to them and give supporting evidence that will help promote THEIR causes, not yours. Sure you may think we are fucked because... that taxes went up? no, that didn't happen... well shit... uh because gas is cheaper? who knows, but your causing is probably monetary. I would rather have health care for people who can't afford it
EXCUSE ME for caring about my fellow man.
if YOU where poor, which you probably make monies all damn day, but if you where, wouldn't you enjoy some health care? I bet that shit is like, the best shit.
America looks pretty ok to me. I haven't seen any cars on fire recently, so to me, things are looking up.

summary for tldr assholes
FUCK YOU COMMIE BASTARD.
and then something along the lines of
support your shit or your tits will sag and make you look like an asshole.

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ayzo

Ok guys stop it

Most of you already know that I'm a middle of the road type of guy and don't really care for political labels, but from my past experiences I know exactly where this thread is going and it can't end well. People on both sides of the isle really need to stop all this stupid and pointless bickering every time the other side does/says something that they don't agree with. I know it must be fun and all to push your agenda on a affiliate forum but I don't think you guys realize the consequences that your words have. Let me tell you guys a little story that will make you think twice, a few years ago the Dallas morning news had a forum type section where people could post stuff and of course the issue of politics came up during the 2004 election. Some republican guy nearly creamed his pants when those swiftboat vets for truth ads started airing, he used it as an excuse to point out how democrats hate America and want the terrorists to win. I called him out on it because he knew it was total bullshit and was just trying to scare the uninformed into his way of thinking.

Well he really didn't appreciate that and of course lashed back with the assumption that I'm a liberal (I'm not) who is going to vote for Kerry so he can surrender the country to Osama Bin Laden and kill all the christians. At that point I was pretty sure he was just another troll looking to stir shit up so I just let it go and put him on my ignore/blacklist and that was pretty much the end of it for about a week or so but then the phone calls started coming in. Back then I was doing web design and I had my website in my sig, the guy went to the website, looked up the number and then just started calling at all hours of the day, one time he actually made my assistant cry from frustration but that was probably due to her hormone changes from pregnancy more than anything else. Then using my name he looked me up and started calling my house with all sorts of nonsense and bullshit, I filed a complaint against him with the Dallas police department but they were pretty much useless and did nothing.

After a few days of all this he finally stopped and I thought I'd finally get some peace and quiet, well I did for a few days but fast forward to Sunday me and my family are in the front yard taking pictures of my niece and nephew when I see a truck come down the street and it ends up stopping in front of my house. I really didn't think much of it at first since my house is on a couldesac it happens all the time, I figured they were lost and looking at their map or something. So I turn back around to snap a few pictures and then all of a sudden I feel a hand on my shoulder, I turn around thinking it was my brother but it wasn't, it was actually 3 guys and I immediately recognized the one in front from the avatar of that guy on the Dallas morning news forum. I asked him just what the hell they were doing here and he just said "you already know why we're here", then one of the guys behind him hands him a bat and that's when I realized they were up to no good, started making trouble in my neighborhood i got in one little fight and my mom got scared she said your moving with your auntie and uncle in bel air i whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and had dice in the mirror if anything i could say that this cab was rare but i thought nah, forget it yo home to bel-air! ipulled- up to a house about seven or eight i yelled to the cabbie yo home, smell you later looked at my kingdom i was finally there to sit on my throne as the prince of bel air.

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Old Goat

Well, I am a gentleman and will not - THAT is who I am.

This thread is about Attorney General Eric Holder dismissing a slam dunk case of racist, voter intimidation by the Black Panthers - caught on film by a college student, and verified by witnesses.

If you would care to enter into discussion about the topic, please... do.

powell1

holy crap we have a black president?

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erect

Dude, you're not supposed to yank the anal beads out like you're starting a lawnmower. One by one, slow and steady.

The title is clickbait, surely you know this method well enough ... and it's not THAT much of a stretch.

Reader's digest that stuff then post a link ... nobody enjoys reading lawyer talk.

You can't expect people to point out every flaw in every thread. Check out popeye's history to get more facts.

Agreed but reverse racism is just part of every day life thanks to our ancestors. I think after Obama's 4 years are over, we'll see some progress here and hopefully minority only groups will be a thing of the past.

At least that's good I've been telling myself will come out of this presidency.

Trademark

Race will always be an issue in the U.S. (at least until the value of our currency disintegrates and we implode). As long as those discussing it are emotional about the issue, there will be a problem. The existence of minority groups are a result.

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Black Panthers > Obama

popeye

Progressive idiots dont realize that Bush's admin was more racial diverse than even King Obama's. Yet, it dont count because those nigers were uncle toms....right?.

Fuck the ignorant left. Fuck the stupid fools trying to use race to push thier agenda. Fuck the Cobert idiots still jacking off to bush policy. Fuck all the stupid left wing fucks that make me embarassed to be American.

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radio

nah. just fuck you, popeye. just fuck you.

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kblessinggr

He's probably just pissed cuz shitloads of obama supporters kept showing up at his house wondering if he had any of those 3.99 bucket deals in stock.

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bobsoap

I thought Obama already took his house and all his buckets away from him?

popeye

Your the weakest left arguemnt on this board. There are plenty that give somewhat a cohernet response. You...It is always fuck you popeye..your stupid popeye...etc...etc.....

Fuck me because why?.....I don't believe in your internet pseudo ideology??

So fuck me becaue I don't believe in what you believe?????

I find it funny that guys like this attack me personally for my beliefs. Trust me.. I don't take it personally. I pay ten times more in taxes than this kid nets in a year. I was once like him...so I will let him stew in his hate for anything besides his personal beliefs.

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it's not a left argument you fuck tard. you're exactly what you spout that you hate of others. locked in ideology and blinded by it. i just think you suck. period. so fuck you.

left argument... jesus christ. continuing the ad hominem attacks: you're a cunt. oh noes!

now here's a left and right argument for you.



and another



fair and balanced.

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Russ86

I didn't read the whole story or find out the truth on this for myself simply because I don't need to. Because the fact of the matter is, black people have were oppressed and enslaved for so many years, seriously sometimes a free pass is just warranted.

kblessinggr

In that case everyone should get a free pass because least one person in anyone's ancestry has been given a hard time or were least persecuted for what they were or what they believed. Hell, I should get a free pass cuz for decades even into present time as "my people" are being slaughtered for being white in some African nations. Or perhaps I should get a free pass cuz somewhere in my lineage were the Native Americans forced from their lands.

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Russ86

Right, but the fact is.. whites are the majority here and we have the power to hand out free passes to those we have oppressed in the past.. So there is really no reason not to, we are helping to right our wrongs. We can sit here and whine about how some of our ancestors were repressed and boo hoo it just is not fair, or we can just take the higher more noble ground and do what we can to help. Make sense?

kblessinggr

righting my wrong? Sorry but I can't recall the last time I enslaved or oppressed someone. And most of the people who would actually deserve some sort of reparation have been long since buried. Most of us (americans) are dragging on a soured past for our own selfish benefits.

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You self-loathing piece of shit. You must have some serious guilt.

Find me a someone that was a slave - and you can give THAT person a pass. The black pathers are a racist group. The KKK is a racist group. Both are welcome at the voting booth, but neither is permitted to loiter for the purpose of intimidating passers by.

That being said - color won't mean as much to all these ignorant mother fuckers when common financial chains enslave us all.

Irony right... first black president spends the country into 100 years of econimic slavery.

Affirmative action and excessive social programs are the result of self-loathers like you trying to "make-up" for shit you have nothing to do with.

Unarmed Gunman

Right our wrongs? What wrongs were those? I'm Irish, and my first ancestors (grandparents on both sides) got to this country in the 1930's. Why the fuck should I have to right any wrongs? In fact, very few people in this country are actually descended from slave owners, so speak for yourself.

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invisible777

The whole situation doesn't really sit well. Days following his nomination for attorney general and in one of his first press conferences, instead of graciously accepting his position or addressing traditional attorney general talking points, he basically delivered a racially charged thesis where he called America a "nation of cowards".

Some weeks later, he was quoted as saying he wants to restart the Civil Rights Division at the DOJ, which has as its primary mission to protection of rights of minorities and institution of affirmative action measures.

Now, we find out he let Black Panthers off the hook when their crime is on multiple videotapes.

Just the facts folks, just the facts.

spinkick-pro

What a bunch of noobs! LOL

Voter intimidation, voter fraud etc. has been going on forever. Their skills are lacking. You cant do it like that anymore. You gotta be under the radar and tread the gray/blue area. Someone needs to make an ebook for these guys.

Im sure if those guys got prosecuted, they 'might' make some regulations and enforcement or somthing to prevent this. Then we would have the problem of enforcing. And of course it wouldn't work, cuz EVERYBODY is doing it. The guys are just dumb noobs who didn't do their homework.

xmcp123

Popeye's acting like an idiot, but so are you.
Here is why you're wrong:

• Everyone's been oppressed at some point
• No one alive today was for slavery.
• Many people's families weren't even here for slavery.
• This point isn't worth another bulletpoint to refute. Suffice it to say anyone supporting a policy that elevates the rights of one race over another is racist as all hell no matter which politically correct angle you put on it.

Here's why popeye is wrong

• They are not the only ones to get a pass
  • There are polling locations that are located in Churches.
  • I guarantee you "Right to Life" people wouldn't face charges either.
• We've never aggressively gone after people intimidating at polls. Ever. There's a few "we'll make an example of you" cases, but that's it.
• It has nothing to do with Obama. He doesn't oversee everything. Get used to it.
• It runs into a lot of nasty issues about free speech/right to assemble.
• Seriously, it's just not a good use of resources to go after this. I'd be seriously pissed if they spent a bunch of tax money to go after a few random fucks whose behavior wouldn't be impacted either way, did no significant damage, and would be seen as martyrs by the community.

Pretty much yeah, they should've been charged. But it's not a race thing/travesty of justice. It's someone sliding through the cracks which happens every damn day.

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Old Goat

This is trying to belittle what happened. I quote the Washington Times article I mentioned earlier:

"After the 2000 Presidential election, Democrats complained about voter intimidation in Florida by pointing to a police car that had been two miles away from a polling place. The police didn't do anything to anyone, but their presence was deemed sufficient to vaguely intimidate people en route to the polls. In this case, the New Black Panther Party actually blocked access to a poll. Unlike the Florida incident, this case involving the New Black Panthers screams out for tough justice. Instead, the Obama administration looks the other way. This all but invites racial violence at future elections."


The Justice Dept. had a conviction - not one of the accused showed up in court - this was enough to convict them. (Even without the video and witness testimony)


Again from the Washington Times article:


"The explanation for moving to dismiss the case is shocking. According to the Department of Justice: "These same Defendants have made no appearance and have filed no pleadings with the Court. Nor have they otherwise raised any other defenses to this action. Therefore, the United States has the right ... to dismiss voluntarily this action against the Defendants." In other words, because the defendants haven't tried to defend themselves, the Justice Department won't punish them.



By that logic, if a murderer doesn't respond to the charges, he should be let free. That's crazy."


The Obama Justice Dept. has given no good explanation because there IS NO good explanation.