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Question Affiliate Summit West 2007: Jon, Shoemoney & Andrew Johnson panel!

I remember last year that Jon, Shoemoney & Threejuice were invited to speak about affiliate marketing & answer questions of the audience during Affiliate Summit West 2007 (if I am correct), just wondering how it went and if someone taped their performance (YouTube/Google video)?

Maybe it was cancelled at the end, because I didn't hear people speaking about it for a long time! Sorry, for not keeping myself updated if that was the case heh...
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Im sure someone will have some footage. But nothing that interesting to watch im sure. The content will be more important I'm intertested to hear what people learned.
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It's me, Shoemoney, and Andrew Johnson. We are going on today at 3:30pm... I'm sure people here at ASW will post about it, especially if we fuck it up.
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It's me, Shoemoney, and Andrew Johnson. We are going on today at 3:30pm... I'm sure people here at ASW will post about it, especially if we fuck it up.
That's why I want to see some video here LOL..
Anyway, Good Luck!!

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Video

Have them film it,

like they did with these...

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Nothing wrong with the presenters, but there were an awful lot of stupid questions, no microphone for half the time, and no moderator.

Shoe talked about.... give ya one guess

Jon talked about porn, how he does not do testing or follow-up and how cj fucked him out of $170k, he also gave a running count of number of people bailing.

Andrew had some decent advice, but did not get to talk all that much.

Seemed like Shoe and Jon were telling jokes to each other the whole time.

Andrew Wee filmed it, so it might be up on his blog later.
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Jon talked about porn
Ringtones?

What about porn?
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yeah it was good once it got going. The lack of a microphone and some early dumb questions made it kind of slow and awkward. Second half was good and then it had to end, too early.
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Andrew Wee filmed it.

You can talk to them more at the Copeac party tonight. There will probably be video cameras there as well.
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I kinda wish ASW would have provided us each with mics and also given us a moderator to keep things flowing. We had some decent questions, but not all that many. Some of those 3 part questions were killer too. Overall I think it went pretty well, had fun doing it, and I toned down the profanity a lot. I may do it again sometime if we could get better questions, but it seems like a lot of people were too scared to get up and ask something decent. Towards the end Shawn Collins stopped in for a bit, which I thought was cool, considering he was so busy the whole time and didn't really go to any other sessions. The turnout was okay too, heard from the woman that keeps count said there were a few hundred people there. Not too shabby.
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i was going to ask how many times you poop in a day and would you recommend commas or spaces in your meta tags.
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I thought it was just ok. I agree that if it would have been more organized it would have helped out to get more questions. For those that asked they got an answer from "experts" so they got what they wanted but while andrew had a good point or two just didn't seem like he does public speaking often. Jon and Shoe just seemed to be kickin it and keepin it real.
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could have been better in more ways than one. I was pretty dissapointed with the session, but ithe best thing about the conference has been meeting with everyone and chatting up internet marketing
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I thought it was just ok. I agree that if it would have been more organized it would have helped out to get more questions. For those that asked they got an answer from "experts" so they got what they wanted but while andrew had a good point or two just didn't seem like he does public speaking often. Jon and Shoe just seemed to be kickin it and keepin it real.
I now have a new calling card as being the guy who was on the panel who told the people leaving the session that we can see them leaving and that they suck. Yeahhhh.. that was kinda funny.
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could have been better in more ways than one. I was pretty dissapointed with the session, but ithe best thing about the conference has been meeting with everyone and chatting up internet marketing
I hear more people saying that those affiliate summits are good for networking only, but not more then that... That's true?
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I hear more people saying that those affiliate summits are good for networking only, but not more then that... That's true?
The networking aspect of it is HUGE, and not to mention a ton of fun. Where else can you talk to a hot chick and say "I'm an affiliate" and she actually knows what it is!
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The networking aspect of it is HUGE, and not to mention a ton of fun. Where else can you talk to a hot chick and say "I'm an affiliate" and she actually knows what it is!
Yeah, you are right heh!
Especially those parties are a good place to meet a hot chick and give out your business card or cell phone number I guess...
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yeah but she only wants you for your traffic, doesn't even give a fuck about your content
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It's all good, as long as she converts
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Jon, it was a pretty good session once it got flowing. You each did a nice job handling some of the more lame questions, and you know you'll always get a few in a Q&A session like this. Overall the session was valuable, especially the second half. During the first half, when it was slow, I thought about jokingly asking "The $16 Million Dollar Question", but that thought faded quickly since I would have just been prodding.

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video will be up once i get home.

the sound was majorly screwed, so i'll need to spend some time fixing it.

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Here's the scripted version of the session:

Super Affiliates Session with Shoemoney, AOJon, and Andrew Johnson » Conversion Rater - web analytics, online advertising, and website publishing.
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Thanks! I will definitely read it... but would like to see a video footage as well!
I hope Andrew Wee has his footage ready soon as he mentioned earlier!!
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Fucktarded questions... really fucktarded. next ASW I go too I will not even signup.. just go and hang out because the sessions are worthless.
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When you get started how do you know where to go and what to do, how do you make an offer succeed?
wtf kinda vague bullshit is that? when you get started what do you do, I really... really wanted to real life call this guy a flaming fucktard.

And the author of landing page cash machine needed a ban from life fucking ebook asspony asking retarded questions!
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Yeah, I found presentations to be worthless. They are more for "employees" of Affiliate Networks. It's best to just hit on girls, get drunk, and network.
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Once again the lackluster content of the presentation proves that in order to be successful online and make money you will have to come up with the ideas and implement them yourself. No one will hold your hand or show you the way. You will have to find it yourself.

The internet is the ultimate level playing field. You have your brain, a computer, internet, access to a wealth of free online resources, and 24 hours in a day. What you choose to make of it is entirely up to you.

You can't blame your failure on 'politics' 'discrimination' ect. success/failure is in your hands.
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Once again the lackluster content of the presentation proves that in order to be successful online and make money you will have to come up with the ideas and implement them yourself. No one will hold your hand or show you the way. You will have to find it yourself.

The internet is the ultimate level playing field. You have your brain, a computer, internet, access to a wealth of free online resources, and 24 hours in a day. What you choose to make of it is entirely up to you.

You can't blame your failure on 'politics' 'discrimination' ect. success/failure is in your hands.
You said the right words.
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yeah, i agree with what most people have been saying here. the session was kind of a let down, not because the speakers didn't do a good job, but because the topics that came up weren't really that interesting, the mic wasn't working for the first half or so, and the session was too short for a q & a. just my opinion.

if they have that panel again in the future i think it would be a lot better if it were an hour and a half or even two hours, and if the speakers each gave a brief (5 minute or so) run down of their background.. i guess they did a little bit, but i think a good portion of the audience didn't really know what to expect from the speakers and that resulted in the wrong questions being asked (not all of them, but quite a few).

anyway just my opinion.

btw i think i saw a lot of the wickedfire crew at kris jones' (Pepperjam) session. i thought that one was really, really good.
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That transcript left out the best one. Some Lunarpages guy asked this really weird circular question towards the beginning and Jon asked him to clarify it.

The response from the Lunarpages fucktard (seriously considering dropping them because the guy was such a dumbass) was:

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Whatever. Jon just sat back with this kind of "Fuck off" look. Fun stuff.
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well... of all the conferences I have ever spoken at or been to I have never seen one where the moderator never showed....

There was 1 microphone for 3 people

No microphone for the audience

The moderator to introduce walk around with the mic for the audience was awol.


Pretty ghetto.
Were they even planning on a moderator? It didn't appear that way. You guys handled it like pros, but yeah a moderator was expected.
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sorry, double post.. my internet connection is crap here.
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well... of all the conferences I have ever spoken at or been to I have never seen one where the moderator never showed....

There was 1 microphone for 3 people

No microphone for the audience

The moderator to introduce walk around with the mic for the audience was awol.


Pretty ghetto.
Yeah--I'm definitely not blaming you guys at all, and the only reason this even might sound like a complaint is just because your session was my 'most anticipated' one at the conference. In my (biased) mind you and Jon are (along with Kris) some of the best people to listen to.

I also thought it was pretty lame how that lady (not sure who it was--sorry) was frantically singalling you to end the session.
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Yeah--I'm definitely not blaming you guys at all, and the only reason this even might sound like a complaint is just because your session was my 'most anticipated' one at the conference. In my (biased) mind you and Jon are (along with Kris) some of the best people to listen to.

I also thought it was pretty lame how that lady (not sure who it was--sorry) was frantically singalling you to end the session.
If the ASW people had their shit together, there could have been more questions, and possibly even better ones. There just needed to be a little moderation. Especially in the beginning. It would have been nice to have someone from AS intro the panel, and have a list of filler questions. Stuff that they (AS) could have had prepared ahead of time to get some conversation going.

I enjoyed the session, but the pace was off, and that's the fault of the organizers, not the panel. Kudos to Jon, Shoe and Andrew for making the best of the situation.
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Hey, what's with the rumor that the 'official' video is not going to be put online because one of the panelists in this session was extremely unprofessional in his comments (and it wasn't Shoemoney) ??
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Hey, what's with the rumor that the 'official' video is not going to be put online because one of the panelists in this session was extremely unprofessional in his comments (and it wasn't Shoemoney) ??
Who in their right mind would think that Andrew Johnson was being extremely unprofessional in his comments? those bastards!


edit::: haha I wish I had the recording of when Jon was like, "why is everyone leaving?"
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Andrew weeei said he has to get home to digitize it and work on some of the audio but he will then post it. as I was leaving within 5 minutes of the start jon asked why so many people were leaving, I wanted to stab my eye out it was so bad! not sure it was the panels fault but anyway...
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Andrew weeei said he has to get home to digitize it and work on some of the audio but he will then post it. as I was leaving within 5 minutes of the start jon asked why so many people were leaving, I wanted to stab my eye out it was so bad! not sure it was the panels fault but anyway...

yeah chris, that shit was funny huh? or when andrew was like..."and I just lost my train of thought" * passes the mic to shoemoney to save the question
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or what about when my friend Jason asked the question about the forums and Jon got to plug his site for about 10 minutes
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or the part when we were told that the best way to pick an offer is to look for stuff that does not have a lot of adwords competition - best advice ever!

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lol I was just cracking up the whole time and text messaging brandon
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