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Old 06-29-2006, 03:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Anyone catch Shoemoney's show on monday?

I'm downloading it right now but I was just wondering if markus put shoemoney in his place.
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It was the worst radio show I've ever listened to. It was boring, there was nothing even remotely interesting said, and I'll never listen to another Shoemoney show again. He is a horrible interviewer.
How's that for a review
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is shoe over rated?

Jon>Shoe?

me think so..
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Even Markus - while I find some of his posts fascinating, especially the technical side of running his site to handle all the traffic, listening to him talk about it with Shoemoney was a snooze-fest.
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I didn't notice it was playing till 10 minutes through--this thing's just boring as hell...
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Yeah I just listened to it, it's pretty bad.
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I thought the last one was pretty boring too. His advice to people calling in was usually no brainer stuff.
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I tried to make it through.. but just couldn't. The power of falling asleep in my seat was too great for me to withstand. If you're ever up late at night and you've tried everything to try and fall asleep, try listening to a Shoemoney radio show. You'll be out like a light in no time.
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I guess the problem with that type of theing would be to make it understandable for newbies but interesting for experienced people.

Mission impossible.
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My guess is it's neither--it's definitely not the last one, though.
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Of course you guys couldn't possibly get anything out of any of those radio shows. They are for serious, advanced webmasters and SEO's. Half the people in that chat room are Internet millionaires. What kind of forum is this anyway? Is anyone over age 16 mentally?

Notice the rest of the reviews on the Internet do not agree with you and that should be a wake up call for you.
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Of course you guys couldn't possibly get anything out of any of those radio shows. They are for serious, advanced webmasters and SEO's. Half the people in that chat room are Internet millionaires. What kind of forum is this anyway? Is anyone over age 16 mentally?

Notice the rest of the reviews on the Internet do not agree with you and that should be a wake up call for you.
Hey shoemoney nice to see you.

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Ironically that statement just proved his point with the age comment.
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So I have the mentality of a 16 year old because I call the dude out for being up shoemoney's ass as well as insulting wickedfire and it's users?
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Of course you guys couldn't possibly get anything out of any of those radio shows. They are for serious, advanced webmasters and SEO's. Half the people in that chat room are Internet millionaires. What kind of forum is this anyway? Is anyone over age 16 mentally?

Notice the rest of the reviews on the Internet do not agree with you and that should be a wake up call for you.
Woo, so much material to work with here.

First off, I'd like to point out that almost everyone I know (big players and small) have said it is one of the most boring radio shows ever. I listened to some of it myself, and even though I had a radio show going on here for a bit which I didn't think was SO great, Shoemoney's sucked. Seriously. Now, are you going to say that because I said it sucks, suddenly I've got the mentality of a teenager, and that I must not be doing well for myself either?

Second, as for the reviews over the internet, people come here to say what they want and get feedback from other people in the industry alike. They are not afraid to come out and voice their opinion about the show. If they don't like it, they are allowed to say something about it. If they do like, they'll say something nice. But why is it, that so far we haven't seen a single REALLY good review like you've said? Of course there will be some people that like it, or are fans of his, but there are also lots of others out there who will say anything to kiss his ass, which is what John was saying. Wooo the rest of the reviews on the internet. Oh boy, they must all know what they are talking about, those big reviewers... All they are, are just regular people, same as the ones here. If you don't like what you see here, leave. No one wants you around anyhow. If you can't accept that people like to tell others what they think, well, I can't really say anything except that you need to lighten up a bit.

Don't come here to act all high and mighty when you don't agree with what people say. If you want to debate about it, go right ahead. Chances are you'll have tons of people who disagree. And they aren't disagreeing because of me or what I say, they do this thing called THINKING FOR THEMSELVES, which is something you should try too if you weren't living in la la land.

Plain and simple, I think the show is boring and slow. It's really tough to sit there and pay attention to it. Honestly. Some of the stuff he's written on his blog is decent, but the radio show is just total crap; And when he called Markus out and blamed him for things he DIDN'T do or say, that's when I lost all respect for Shoemoney. He may have apologized to Markus since then so that he could get him onto his show, but he's still an asshole in my book.

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What kind of forum is this anyway? Is anyone over age 16 mentally?
I am only just 15 and as far as I am concerned I can achieve anything and everything I want to. Even if we are all young (and we're not) we are the adults of the future, most likely the millionaires and entrepeneurs of tomorrow. Theres nothing wrong with acting like a 16 year old, 16 is a very fine age thank you.
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How unfortunate for the serious, advanced webmasters that they are so out of touch with their good sense.

The radio show was horrible. There was no flow, the questions were horrible, and the answers were just as bad. Yes, I sat through the entire thing. Both Markus and Shoemoney to stuck to written text because their oral communication skills are lacking.

Half the people in the chat room are Internet millionaires?? ... please...
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I've only heard the show with Lee of Forumtrends, and it wasn't so bad - I think mainly because Lee came off as being such a personable guy. The amount of ads they played though was irritating, and there was almost no real information given. Listen to Lee's own Won Lee Do Sho for some good info from Lee (and Won [Juan?])

I don't really know much about Shoemoney, though, so I won't base my comments on him personally - he just does a boring podcast
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Radio shows such as Shoemoney's seem to be the latest fad for webmasters to get into but I think a few are finding out that just because it doesn't cost much to set up a microphone and record an hour long show, that doesn't mean that everyone should do it.

Radio presenting is almost a performance skill and just because you can make a lot of money from building websites doesn't mean that you have the on air skills to pull off presenting a show about it.

Shoemoney isn't the only person not quite getting it right at the minute but maybe a bit more experience will improve things for him and he can make the transition from writing an interesting blog to presenting a better radio show.
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So I have the mentality of a 16 year old because I call the dude out for being up shoemoney's ass as well as insulting wickedfire and it's users?
Hmm... I'm sorry, where did you say all that in the following statement:
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I missed the part where you "call the dude out for being up shoemoney's ass as well as insulting wickedfire and it's users?" between PS and dick in your mouth...
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Ironically, here is a direct quote from Shoemoney's blog about what he thinks of his radio show, the direction, and how he has probably realized that he's not all that great at it..

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Listen to Lee's own Won Lee Do Sho for some good info from Lee (and Won [Juan?])
Now that is a radio show [or whatever you want to call it]. Just from the 2 episodes they've released, I've learnt so much.

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woah. props to shoemoney for takin' it like a man and tellin' it how it is.

good job on not talkin' shit back and buying into the drama .
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The show sucks I am always amazed its actually worse in podcasts then I thought it was live.

I cant believe most of you stuck it out past the first 10 mins.

This episode was not even meant really to be a interview but more a chance to give people a open forum to call in and ask Markus any question they wanted. I doubt its everyday you can call up a guy who profits half a million a month and ask anything you want about whatever.

Anyway my wife just gave birth 4 days prior and I was super unprepared. Not that that is really different then any other show.

Markus was by far the hardest guest I have had on so far cause he gave very brief answers and left me to try to fill a lot of downtime.

As far as the show as a whole i think its hard to say exactly why its so bad. I originally wanted the show to be purely for the people having them call in and take the show in whatever direction the people wanted.

Unfortunatly webmaster radio is very limited in what they can actually do.

I agree pretty much what all you are saying and hopefully you will call in on future shows and ask good questions. (if you can stand to listen to it)
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i have my doubts. but i think there's a chance it really is.
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i have my doubts. but i think there's a chance it really is.
Trying to get it verified..
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lol what am i googleguy =P needed to get verified? Just look at my ip how many people do you think live in lincoln nebraska and own a computer
Just making sure it's not some idiot posting pretending to be you.
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Now that is a radio show [or whatever you want to call it]. Just from the 2 episodes they've released, I've learnt so much.

Bring on episode 3.
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Wow Lee, I'm listening to episode 1 right now. Now THIS is quality! I'm very impressed. Actual tips!
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Okay Shoemoney, I caved and listened to your latest show after reading good reviews.
It was much more enjoyable. Sorry for being so harsh after listening to your last show with Markus. The time flew by listening to this one.
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Yup - that show was certainly worth a listen - especially for anyone whos got an interest in promoting their stuff by PPC.
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I missed the Markus show but the one I heard this morning I thought was awesome.
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Shoe,

Hang in there and keep improving. Nothing works out perfectly right away.

At least you didn't cancel your show after the first episode. Haha just kidding Jon.
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