Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Hi, I am the Director Of Operations at XY7.

I wanted to say a few things to set the record straight.
First, the affiliate's claims are ludicrous. We do all of these leads internally? Huh? We shut down people so we can take their ideas? How have we been a market leader in the EDU space and been a home for affiliates to go to for EDU for over a year now? How do we keep getting more and more budget and have the strongest media buyers out there on our Criminal Justice Deal? At the end of the day, this affiliate has run over 1000 leads in the last year on many different EDU campaigns and each and every advertiser has asked that we stop his sub-id or lower his price. When we saw him start this campain with 11 leads and 39 clicks (now you have the real stats), we looked into what he was doing. His referrers did not look legitimate but we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and call him. We asked him how he generated the leads and his story changed from minute to minute. We asked him if he used his own lp he said no. When we called him out, he said yes. Then, when we asked to see it because we would need to approve it, (even though we already could see it from the referrers but nothing would come up, we wanted to make sure there was no mistake as to why we could not pull it up), and we asked why we would not pull the page up and he put us on hold. Then, he asked if we had "jacked" his page!?!?! What?? He accused us of "jacking" his page and this is why the page would not come up. Then, he started screaming he was going to CX but all day long would not leave Kevin alone and continued to pound Kevin with IM's and phone calls screaming we jacked his page (we STILL have never seen the page because it never came up). Keep in mind, we are paying the guy for the leads. We just wanted to stop a potential problem otherwise we would have seen him come on this board and scream "bloody murder" as to why he did not get paid for his bad leads. The reason Kevin reacted like this is because Kevin continued to try and get this guy off his back and he has not stopped! If someone blatantly lies over and over again and then starts to accuse you of stealing it gets a little frustrating. Please, also remember that the final word from him is these leads were from PPV yet, 39 clicks and no impressions? Plus, the fact that he could not back up one of his claims. The EDU space is EXTREMELY brand sensitive and there is no reason we should give a guy like this budget. Plus, the last time he generated leads, the advertisers pixel did not fire on 29% of his leads but this happened with no one else. I ended up paying him for the extra leads that did not even get submitted because I went off of our pixel count and not the advertiser. At the end of the day, most odd tracking issues like that are a result of shady activity. Again, I am not accusing him. I am just saying, we are on the affiliate's side until we are lied to. After lies, we WILL NOT stand by your side. AF48374 CEASE AND DESIST from all contact with XY7.

Originally Posted by hellblazer

And subigo's stalkerish obsession with the Hannity forums and conservatives in general is fairly disturbing. You get the impression he's sitting in the dark somewhere furiously masterbating to the Hannity threads, his sallow complexion dimly lit by the glow of the computer monitor as he creepily cackles to himself.

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Hi, I am the Director Of Operations at XY7.

I wanted to say a few things to set the record straight.
First, the affiliate's claims are ludicrous. We do all of these leads internally? Huh? We shut down people so we can take their ideas? How have we been a market leader in the EDU space and been a home for affiliates to go to for EDU for over a year now? How do we keep getting more and more budget and have the strongest media buyers out there on our Criminal Justice Deal? At the end of the day, this affiliate has run over 1000 leads in the last year on many different EDU campaigns and each and every advertiser has asked that we stop his sub-id or lower his price. When we saw him start this campain with 11 leads and 39 clicks (now you have the real stats), we looked into what he was doing. His referrers did not look legitimate but we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and call him. We asked him how he generated the leads and his story changed from minute to minute. We asked him if he used his own lp he said no. When we called him out, he said yes. Then, when we asked to see it because we would need to approve it, (even though we already could see it from the referrers but nothing would come up, we wanted to make sure there was no mistake as to why we could not pull it up), and we asked why we would not pull the page up and he put us on hold. Then, he asked if we had "jacked" his page!?!?! What?? He accused us of "jacking" his page and this is why the page would not come up. Then, he started screaming he was going to CX but all day long would not leave Kevin alone and continued to pound Kevin with IM's and phone calls screaming we jacked his page (we STILL have never seen the page because it never came up). Keep in mind, we are paying the guy for the leads. We just wanted to stop a potential problem otherwise we would have seen him come on this board and scream "bloody murder" as to why he did not get paid for his bad leads. The reason Kevin reacted like this is because Kevin continued to try and get this guy off his back and he has not stopped! If someone blatantly lies over and over again and then starts to accuse you of stealing it gets a little frustrating. Please, also remember that the final word from him is these leads were from PPV yet, 39 clicks and no impressions? Plus, the fact that he could not back up one of his claims. The EDU space is EXTREMELY brand sensitive and there is no reason we should give a guy like this budget. Plus, the last time he generated leads, the advertisers pixel did not fire on 29% of his leads but this happened with no one else. I ended up paying him for the extra leads that did not even get submitted because I went off of our pixel count and not the advertiser. At the end of the day, most odd tracking issues like that are a result of shady activity. Again, I am not accusing him. I am just saying, we are on the affiliate's side until we are lied to. After lies, we WILL NOT stand by your side. AF48374 CEASE AND DESIST from all contact with XY7.

Originally Posted by mGrunin

Chris Brown should have given you a bigger beating.

Originally Posted by rawbones

What the....Shit I was just reading a post and something snapped. I'm very concerned.
Having trouble.
Hai Gaiz, IZ somthingn wrong

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Hi, I am the Director Of Operations at XY7.

I wanted to say a few things to set the record straight.
First, the affiliate's claims are ludicrous. We do all of these leads internally? Huh? We shut down people so we can take their ideas? How have we been a market leader in the EDU space and been a home for affiliates to go to for EDU for over a year now? How do we keep getting more and more budget and have the strongest media buyers out there on our Criminal Justice Deal? At the end of the day, this affiliate has run over 1000 leads in the last year on many different EDU campaigns and each and every advertiser has asked that we stop his sub-id or lower his price. When we saw him start this campain with 11 leads and 39 clicks (now you have the real stats), we looked into what he was doing. His referrers did not look legitimate but we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and call him. We asked him how he generated the leads and his story changed from minute to minute. We asked him if he used his own lp he said no. When we called him out, he said yes. Then, when we asked to see it because we would need to approve it, (even though we already could see it from the referrers but nothing would come up, we wanted to make sure there was no mistake as to why we could not pull it up), and we asked why we would not pull the page up and he put us on hold. Then, he asked if we had "jacked" his page!?!?! What?? He accused us of "jacking" his page and this is why the page would not come up. Then, he started screaming he was going to CX but all day long would not leave Kevin alone and continued to pound Kevin with IM's and phone calls screaming we jacked his page (we STILL have never seen the page because it never came up). Keep in mind, we are paying the guy for the leads. We just wanted to stop a potential problem otherwise we would have seen him come on this board and scream "bloody murder" as to why he did not get paid for his bad leads. The reason Kevin reacted like this is because Kevin continued to try and get this guy off his back and he has not stopped! If someone blatantly lies over and over again and then starts to accuse you of stealing it gets a little frustrating. Please, also remember that the final word from him is these leads were from PPV yet, 39 clicks and no impressions? Plus, the fact that he could not back up one of his claims. The EDU space is EXTREMELY brand sensitive and there is no reason we should give a guy like this budget. Plus, the last time he generated leads, the advertisers pixel did not fire on 29% of his leads but this happened with no one else. I ended up paying him for the extra leads that did not even get submitted because I went off of our pixel count and not the advertiser. At the end of the day, most odd tracking issues like that are a result of shady activity. Again, I am not accusing him. I am just saying, we are on the affiliate's side until we are lied to. After lies, we WILL NOT stand by your side. AF48374 CEASE AND DESIST from all contact with XY7.

Originally Posted by kengraham

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Hi, I am the Director Of Operations at XY7.

I wanted to say a few things to set the record straight.
First, the affiliate's claims are ludicrous. We do all of these leads internally? Huh? We shut down people so we can take their ideas? How have we been a market leader in the EDU space and been a home for affiliates to go to for EDU for over a year now? How do we keep getting more and more budget and have the strongest media buyers out there on our Criminal Justice Deal? At the end of the day, this affiliate has run over 1000 leads in the last year on many different EDU campaigns and each and every advertiser has asked that we stop his sub-id or lower his price. When we saw him start this campain with 11 leads and 39 clicks (now you have the real stats), we looked into what he was doing. His referrers did not look legitimate but we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and call him. We asked him how he generated the leads and his story changed from minute to minute. We asked him if he used his own lp he said no. When we called him out, he said yes. Then, when we asked to see it because we would need to approve it, (even though we already could see it from the referrers but nothing would come up, we wanted to make sure there was no mistake as to why we could not pull it up), and we asked why we would not pull the page up and he put us on hold. Then, he asked if we had "jacked" his page!?!?! What?? He accused us of "jacking" his page and this is why the page would not come up. Then, he started screaming he was going to CX but all day long would not leave Kevin alone and continued to pound Kevin with IM's and phone calls screaming we jacked his page (we STILL have never seen the page because it never came up). Keep in mind, we are paying the guy for the leads. We just wanted to stop a potential problem otherwise we would have seen him come on this board and scream "bloody murder" as to why he did not get paid for his bad leads. The reason Kevin reacted like this is because Kevin continued to try and get this guy off his back and he has not stopped! If someone blatantly lies over and over again and then starts to accuse you of stealing it gets a little frustrating. Please, also remember that the final word from him is these leads were from PPV yet, 39 clicks and no impressions? Plus, the fact that he could not back up one of his claims. The EDU space is EXTREMELY brand sensitive and there is no reason we should give a guy like this budget. Plus, the last time he generated leads, the advertisers pixel did not fire on 29% of his leads but this happened with no one else. I ended up paying him for the extra leads that did not even get submitted because I went off of our pixel count and not the advertiser. At the end of the day, most odd tracking issues like that are a result of shady activity. Again, I am not accusing him. I am just saying, we are on the affiliate's side until we are lied to. After lies, we WILL NOT stand by your side. AF48374 CEASE AND DESIST from all contact with XY7.

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Hi, I am the Director Of Operations at XY7.

I wanted to say a few things to set the record straight.
First, the affiliate's claims are ludicrous. We do all of these leads internally? Huh? We shut down people so we can take their ideas? How have we been a market leader in the EDU space and been a home for affiliates to go to for EDU for over a year now? How do we keep getting more and more budget and have the strongest media buyers out there on our Criminal Justice Deal? At the end of the day, this affiliate has run over 1000 leads in the last year on many different EDU campaigns and each and every advertiser has asked that we stop his sub-id or lower his price. When we saw him start this campain with 11 leads and 39 clicks (now you have the real stats), we looked into what he was doing. His referrers did not look legitimate but we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and call him. We asked him how he generated the leads and his story changed from minute to minute. We asked him if he used his own lp he said no. When we called him out, he said yes. Then, when we asked to see it because we would need to approve it, (even though we already could see it from the referrers but nothing would come up, we wanted to make sure there was no mistake as to why we could not pull it up), and we asked why we would not pull the page up and he put us on hold. Then, he asked if we had "jacked" his page!?!?! What?? He accused us of "jacking" his page and this is why the page would not come up. Then, he started screaming he was going to CX but all day long would not leave Kevin alone and continued to pound Kevin with IM's and phone calls screaming we jacked his page (we STILL have never seen the page because it never came up). Keep in mind, we are paying the guy for the leads. We just wanted to stop a potential problem otherwise we would have seen him come on this board and scream "bloody murder" as to why he did not get paid for his bad leads. The reason Kevin reacted like this is because Kevin continued to try and get this guy off his back and he has not stopped! If someone blatantly lies over and over again and then starts to accuse you of stealing it gets a little frustrating. Please, also remember that the final word from him is these leads were from PPV yet, 39 clicks and no impressions? Plus, the fact that he could not back up one of his claims. The EDU space is EXTREMELY brand sensitive and there is no reason we should give a guy like this budget. Plus, the last time he generated leads, the advertisers pixel did not fire on 29% of his leads but this happened with no one else. I ended up paying him for the extra leads that did not even get submitted because I went off of our pixel count and not the advertiser. At the end of the day, most odd tracking issues like that are a result of shady activity. Again, I am not accusing him. I am just saying, we are on the affiliate's side until we are lied to. After lies, we WILL NOT stand by your side. AF48374 CEASE AND DESIST from all contact with XY7.

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

How have we been a market leader in the EDU space and been a home for affiliates to go to for EDU for over a year now?

Originally Posted by JamesH

Tear it up, let me see you tear it up

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Ok! I admit I wrote the post in haste. Sorry, it was just to quickly set the record straight!

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Hi, I am the Director Of Operations at XY7.
AF48374 CEASE AND DESIST from all contact with XY7.

Originally Posted by CydneyM

I hear about this forum all day and it amazes me that people really have nothing better to do with their day than to bash others. I understand we're all allowed to have our own opinons, which is why blog sites and forums are great to read...but some of the things I've read or seen are just childish and unreal. I'm truly amazed that this is how adults treat each other.
We all have to remember that there are two sides to every story and it would be hard to say that none of us would have reacted in a different manner than Kevin did. If you're "attacked" or your company is being bashed, you are going to defend yourself, it is a natural reaction. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it was handled in the most appropriate manner...but give me a break...many of you are coming off in the same exact manner, if not worse.
Maybe instead of making crude and demeaning posts on WF...you should actually be working or making sure your traffic is legit.
And if you don't want to run on XY7.com as an affiliate...that's fine, you choose to run with what is best for you. But don't judge based off of a childish forum or an angry or terminated affiliate.

Originally Posted by CydneyM

I hear about this forum all day and it amazes me that people really have nothing better to do with their day than to bash others. I understand we're all allowed to have our own opinons, which is why blog sites and forums are great to read...but some of the things I've read or seen are just childish and unreal. I'm truly amazed that this is how adults treat each other.
We all have to remember that there are two sides to every story and it would be hard to say that none of us would have reacted in a different manner than Kevin did. If you're "attacked" or your company is being bashed, you are going to defend yourself, it is a natural reaction. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it was handled in the most appropriate manner...but give me a break...many of you are coming off in the same exact manner, if not worse.
Maybe instead of making crude and demeaning posts on WF...you should actually be working or making sure your traffic is legit.
And if you don't want to run on XY7.com as an affiliate...that's fine, you choose to run with what is best for you. But don't judge based off of a childish forum or an angry or terminated affiliate.

Originally Posted by Ad33l

I think vulgar language is not acceptable on any forum like this and i hope that mods will take action on it.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Don't pass up steak to marvel at the uniqueness of shit on a stick.

Originally Posted by CydneyM

I hear about this forum all day and it amazes me that people really have nothing better to do with their day than to bash others. I understand we're all allowed to have our own opinons, which is why blog sites and forums are great to read...but some of the things I've read or seen are just childish and unreal. I'm truly amazed that this is how adults treat each other.
We all have to remember that there are two sides to every story and it would be hard to say that none of us would have reacted in a different manner than Kevin did. If you're "attacked" or your company is being bashed, you are going to defend yourself, it is a natural reaction. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it was handled in the most appropriate manner...but give me a break...many of you are coming off in the same exact manner, if not worse.
Maybe instead of making crude and demeaning posts on WF...you should actually be working or making sure your traffic is legit.
And if you don't want to run on XY7.com as an affiliate...that's fine, you choose to run with what is best for you. But don't judge based off of a childish forum or an angry or terminated affiliate.

Originally Posted by CydneyM

I hear about this forum all day and it amazes me that people really have nothing better to do with their day than to bash others. I understand we're all allowed to have our own opinons, which is why blog sites and forums are great to read...but some of the things I've read or seen are just childish and unreal. I'm truly amazed that this is how adults treat each other.
We all have to remember that there are two sides to every story and it would be hard to say that none of us would have reacted in a different manner than Kevin did. If you're "attacked" or your company is being bashed, you are going to defend yourself, it is a natural reaction. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it was handled in the most appropriate manner...but give me a break...many of you are coming off in the same exact manner, if not worse.
Maybe instead of making crude and demeaning posts on WF...you should actually be working or making sure your traffic is legit.
And if you don't want to run on XY7.com as an affiliate...that's fine, you choose to run with what is best for you. But don't judge based off of a childish forum or an angry or terminated affiliate.

Originally Posted by RhiannaXY7

Hi, I am the Director Of Operations at XY7.

I wanted to say a few things to set the record straight.
First, the affiliate's claims are ludicrous. We do all of these leads internally? Huh? We shut down people so we can take their ideas? How have we been a market leader in the EDU space and been a home for affiliates to go to for EDU for over a year now? How do we keep getting more and more budget and have the strongest media buyers out there on our Criminal Justice Deal? At the end of the day, this affiliate has run over 1000 leads in the last year on many different EDU campaigns and each and every advertiser has asked that we stop his sub-id or lower his price. When we saw him start this campain with 11 leads and 39 clicks (now you have the real stats), we looked into what he was doing. His referrers did not look legitimate but we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and call him. We asked him how he generated the leads and his story changed from minute to minute. We asked him if he used his own lp he said no. When we called him out, he said yes. Then, when we asked to see it because we would need to approve it, (even though we already could see it from the referrers but nothing would come up, we wanted to make sure there was no mistake as to why we could not pull it up), and we asked why we would not pull the page up and he put us on hold. Then, he asked if we had "jacked" his page!?!?! What?? He accused us of "jacking" his page and this is why the page would not come up. Then, he started screaming he was going to CX but all day long would not leave Kevin alone and continued to pound Kevin with IM's and phone calls screaming we jacked his page (we STILL have never seen the page because it never came up). Keep in mind, we are paying the guy for the leads. We just wanted to stop a potential problem otherwise we would have seen him come on this board and scream "bloody murder" as to why he did not get paid for his bad leads. The reason Kevin reacted like this is because Kevin continued to try and get this guy off his back and he has not stopped! If someone blatantly lies over and over again and then starts to accuse you of stealing it gets a little frustrating. Please, also remember that the final word from him is these leads were from PPV yet, 39 clicks and no impressions? Plus, the fact that he could not back up one of his claims. The EDU space is EXTREMELY brand sensitive and there is no reason we should give a guy like this budget. Plus, the last time he generated leads, the advertisers pixel did not fire on 29% of his leads but this happened with no one else. I ended up paying him for the extra leads that did not even get submitted because I went off of our pixel count and not the advertiser. At the end of the day, most odd tracking issues like that are a result of shady activity. Again, I am not accusing him. I am just saying, we are on the affiliate's side until we are lied to. After lies, we WILL NOT stand by your side. AF48374 CEASE AND DESIST from all contact with XY7.

Originally Posted by CydneyM

I hear about this forum all day and it amazes me that people really have nothing better to do with their day than to bash others. I understand we're all allowed to have our own opinons, which is why blog sites and forums are great to read...but some of the things I've read or seen are just childish and unreal. I'm truly amazed that this is how adults treat each other.
We all have to remember that there are two sides to every story and it would be hard to say that none of us would have reacted in a different manner than Kevin did. If you're "attacked" or your company is being bashed, you are going to defend yourself, it is a natural reaction. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it was handled in the most appropriate manner...but give me a break...many of you are coming off in the same exact manner, if not worse.
Maybe instead of making crude and demeaning posts on WF...you should actually be working or making sure your traffic is legit.
And if you don't want to run on XY7.com as an affiliate...that's fine, you choose to run with what is best for you. But don't judge based off of a childish forum or an angry or terminated affiliate.

Originally Posted by CydneyM

For the love of God...YES I work for XY7.com
I'm an Ad Executive.
I never said that I didn't work for them.

Originally Posted by CydneyM

I hear about this forum all day and it amazes me that people really have nothing better to do with their day than to bash others. I understand we're all allowed to have our own opinons, which is why blog sites and forums are great to read...but some of the things I've read or seen are just childish and unreal. I'm truly amazed that this is how adults treat each other.
We all have to remember that there are two sides to every story and it would be hard to say that none of us would have reacted in a different manner than Kevin did. If you're "attacked" or your company is being bashed, you are going to defend yourself, it is a natural reaction. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it was handled in the most appropriate manner...but give me a break...many of you are coming off in the same exact manner, if not worse.
Maybe instead of making crude and demeaning posts on WF...you should actually be working or making sure your traffic is legit.
And if you don't want to run on XY7.com as an affiliate...that's fine, you choose to run with what is best for you. But don't judge based off of a childish forum or an angry or terminated affiliate.

Originally Posted by Netphase

I will be sure to never run anything with XY7 after reading posts by multiple of their employees here.

Originally Posted by thunderlips

this thread delivers

Originally Posted by hellblazer

And subigo's stalkerish obsession with the Hannity forums and conservatives in general is fairly disturbing. You get the impression he's sitting in the dark somewhere furiously masterbating to the Hannity threads, his sallow complexion dimly lit by the glow of the computer monitor as he creepily cackles to himself.

Originally Posted by sgtryan