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semanticflow · 12-12-2009, 09:26 PM

Hello Friends,

I think wickedfire is now slowly tuning out into DP, as many members of DP have come here and have starting offering their services at cheap prices.

What you think?

Thanks
semanticflow

aeisn · 12-12-2009, 09:28 PM

Don't be so hard on yourself man.

Roundabout · 12-12-2009, 09:32 PM

Ok, so the solution is for everybody to raise their rates higher than your already high rates for the betterment of Wicked Fire?

dsiomtw · 12-12-2009, 09:33 PM

double face palm epic whale fail circa dullspace

tainted · 12-12-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsiomtw

double face palm epic whale fail circa dullspace

stfu idiot

circa

DTAlexONE · 12-12-2009, 09:48 PM

That pisses me off as a designer because I can't compete with $18 a logo? Are you kidding me? To me, each design job is a labor of love and should be unique. Once you start churning logos as if you were some kind of factory, then they start losing their uniqueness. Whatever, I'm not going to undersell myself either. [/rant]

Andrew Scherer · 12-12-2009, 09:56 PM

lol how ironic

Gumby! · 12-12-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

Hello Friends,

I think wickedfire is now slowly tuning out into DP

Welcome to February 2008

nickycakes · 12-12-2009, 10:04 PM

i blame india

semanticflow · 12-12-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roundabout

Ok, so the solution is for everybody to raise their rates higher than your already high rates for the betterment of Wicked Fire?

Do you think the quality of service provided at cheap price are better? I am not telling anyone to increase their prices but at least they should charge a decent price for their services.

-Matt- · 12-12-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumby!

Welcome to February 2008

Where the hell you been bitch?

.Hack · 12-12-2009, 10:14 PM

indians sell themselves short period.

hellblazer · 12-12-2009, 10:16 PM

You can't ban people just cause they don't charge high prices. If their quality is bad, they'll lose customers. If their quality is good and their prices are low, uhhh...you're probably out of luck.

nickycakes · 12-12-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

Do you think the quality of service provided at cheap price are better? I am not telling anyone to increase their prices but at least they should charge a decent price for their services.

Youve been here for almost a year and haven't built up enough reputation to carry your business without competing with others? Sorry but don't blame the fact that you're terribad on the market.

Human · 12-12-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellblazer

You can't ban people just cause they don't charge high prices. If their quality is bad, they'll lose customers. If their quality is good and their prices are low, uhhh...you're probably out of luck.

Supply and demand, ladies and gentlemen, supply and demand. The intriguing world of microeconomics.

Back on track, WickedFire is absolutely nothing like Digital Point. If you are concerned about your prices being beaten and losing customers, just come out and say so. No need to criticize an entire forum because of your one unrelated problem. Solve it yourself.

Webwonder · 12-12-2009, 10:30 PM

I thought this was going to be about all of the dumb ass threads people have been starting. You're upset because competition charges lower prices... smart people will go to who has the best quality of work.

babylonian · 12-12-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTAlexONE

That pisses me off as a designer because I can't compete with $18 a logo? Are you kidding me? To me, each design job is a labor of love and should be unique. Once you start churning logos as if you were some kind of factory, then they start losing their uniqueness. Whatever, I'm not going to undersell myself either. [/rant]

^ this

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP

http://www.wickedfire.com/image.php?...ine=1260468316

ahahha, sorry, what did you say you think??? you lost me there ^

babylonian · 12-12-2009, 10:43 PM

@OP: LOL, I just saw your site, not wondering over prices anymore.

kblessinggr · 12-12-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

Hello Friends,

I think wickedfire is now slowly tuning out into DP, as many members of DP have come here and have starting offering their services at cheap prices.

What you think?

Thanks
semanticflow

Past customers starting to notice better work at cheaper prices?

clenard · 12-12-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

Do you think the quality of service provided at cheap price are better? I am not telling anyone to increase their prices but at least they should charge a decent price for their services.

I used to highly recommend you as a designer, but then I noticed you kept using the same design structures over and over, and even using shit like the same menu you used on my site - on other people's sites.

If the cheaper price meant being unique, I'd gladly use them.

What I dislike:

People who use the same damn design style for every LP or Website
People who raise prices like crazy and then use the same damn LP design or Website
People who use the same damn design style for every LP or Website that I just paid for - as a paid Template for others.

If your competition sees this reply, I would suggest that they send me their portfolio through PM. I'm pretty tired of paying money to people who recycle their "custom designs" over and over.

Zikhth · 12-12-2009, 10:54 PM

The truth comes out.

Go back to DP. I'm sure they love your designs.

Jondoe0069 · 12-12-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

starting offering

You get what you pay for most of the time and the lower priced stuff is either terrible or automated. You should starting offering lower prices.

UnripeArbiter · 12-12-2009, 11:01 PM

Oh, wrong DP.....

Marketcake · 12-12-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnripeArbiter

Oh, wrong DP.....

nuclear cat is not pleased

tatrasim · 12-12-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickycakes

i blame india

i blame nickycakes for hiring indians.

kblessinggr · 12-12-2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tatrasim

i blame nickycakes for hiring indians.

I blame the Indians for posing as NickyCakes.

hellblazer · 12-13-2009, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clenard

I used to highly recommend you as a designer, but then I noticed you kept using the same design structures over and over, and even using shit like the same menu you used on my site - on other people's sites.

If the cheaper price meant being unique, I'd gladly use them.

What I dislike:

People who use the same damn design style for every LP or Website
People who raise prices like crazy and then use the same damn LP design or Website
People who use the same damn design style for every LP or Website that I just paid for - as a paid Template for others.

If your competition sees this reply, I would suggest that they send me their portfolio through PM. I'm pretty tired of paying money to people who recycle their "custom designs" over and over.

it looks like it was a terrible idea for him to start this thread.

Marketcake · 12-13-2009, 12:15 AM

wait.. ive seen the design of your site before. it was somone on ppc coach that recommended you. its good i found out youre a scam

Bevo Ryan · 12-13-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickycakes

i blame india

what he said....

Bevo Ryan · 12-13-2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnripeArbiter

Oh, wrong DP.....

and what he said too....

DTAlexONE · 12-13-2009, 01:13 AM

Outsourcing is one of the reasons I stopped coding. You can just hand those to the drones in India for an insanely cheap price. However, creativity is something that actually takes some talent and intelligence and IMO, is not something you'll see in their design work.

nkobend · 12-13-2009, 03:39 AM

there's nothing "slow" about it. Blame the mods. You ban decent posters, and leave the DP wankers, whaddya expect????

nickycakes · 12-13-2009, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkobend

there's nothing "slow" about it. Blame the mods. You ban decent posters, and leave the DP wankers, whaddya expect????

all i hear is "WAHHHHHHHHHH"

johnysc430 · 12-13-2009, 03:44 AM

You're complaining that this is turning into DP yet you have a itrader of 66 lol

sumitdhawan09 · 12-13-2009, 03:55 AM

Hello friends,

I think Wickedfire is new DP and that why I no visit DP very much now.

Good luck bros

semanticflow · 12-13-2009, 08:05 AM

I think I have much more reputation, recommendation and i-trader than any other designer on this forum any my clients keep on giving me projects on regular basis. I don't have any problem or competition with any designer here.

@clenard : I make designs according to clients requirement and also don't use same structure again and again.

I would like mods to close this thread because my intension of starting the thread was totally different then the way it came out. I just wanted to know everyones opinion about it, It dosent mean I am facing any problem due to competition etc.

Thanks everyone for taking part in this.

jayson_co · 12-13-2009, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

Hello Friends,

I think wickedfire is now slowly tuning out into DP, as many members of DP have come here and have starting offering their services at cheap prices.

What you think?

Thanks
semanticflow

You say that as you have an ad for 20 LPs (psd plus code) for $20. Does the price get any cheaper than that?

Super-Affiliate · 12-13-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitdhawan09

Hello friends,

I think Wickedfire is new DP and that why I no visit DP very much now.

Good luck bros

WICKEDFIRE = DIGITAL POINT

This is a new press release which I will never release for the sake of release

u fucking faggot, stop blaiming and start working

Jizzlobber · 12-13-2009, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

I think I have much more reputation, recommendation and i-trader than any other designer on this forum any my clients keep on giving me projects on regular basis. I don't have any problem or competition with any designer here.

Thread title implies that you are attempting to shit where you eat.

ChrisBa · 12-13-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

I think I have much more reputation, recommendation and i-trader than any other designer on this forum any my clients keep on giving me projects on regular basis. I don't have any problem or competition with any designer here.

@clenard : I make designs according to clients requirement and also don't use same structure again and again.

I would like mods to close this thread because my intension of starting the thread was totally different then the way it came out. I just wanted to know everyones opinion about it, It dosent mean I am facing any problem due to competition etc.

Thanks everyone for taking part in this.

Perhaps you can explain this then?

:: Body News.org - Healthy Living for life ::

This looks like AN EXACT replica of a site you designed for someone else. Perhaps you should be refunding both customers. Doing This IMO is not "quality", this is DP quality.

retard · 12-13-2009, 08:43 AM

Ignore the retards work while they work. Cheap does not mean lucrative. Just work as you are working and provide quality work. All those Indians or south asians will back out.

AllBizNiz · 12-13-2009, 09:01 AM

I can still understand the questions/comments on WF. Almost 99.9 % of the posts on DP make no fucking sense and are hard to decipher.

bb_wolfe · 12-13-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clenard

I used to highly recommend you as a designer, but then I noticed you kept using the same design structures over and over, and even using shit like the same menu you used on my site - on other people's sites.

If the cheaper price meant being unique, I'd gladly use them.

What I dislike:

People who use the same damn design style for every LP or Website
People who raise prices like crazy and then use the same damn LP design or Website
People who use the same damn design style for every LP or Website that I just paid for - as a paid Template for others.

If your competition sees this reply, I would suggest that they send me their portfolio through PM. I'm pretty tired of paying money to people who recycle their "custom designs" over and over.

I had this EXACT same shit happen with her. Not only did I charge her ass back on paypal, but she only had $20 in there, then MONTHS later, came back with a sob story saying she "had a baby and wants to work things out" so she could get her paypal account back. Only can speculate that she was charged back so much, she had to go back to old accounts and beg pissed off customers to close the dispute.

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

I think I have much more reputation, recommendation and i-trader than any other designer on this forum any my clients keep on giving me projects on regular basis. I don't have any problem or competition with any designer here.

@clenard : I make designs according to clients requirement and also don't use same structure again and again.

I would like mods to close this thread because my intension of starting the thread was totally different then the way it came out. I just wanted to know everyones opinion about it, It dosent mean I am facing any problem due to competition etc.

Thanks everyone for taking part in this.

I know my site was a rip off of one of the other people you did work for.

DTAlexONE · 12-13-2009, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb_wolfe

I know my site was a rip off of one of the other people you did work for.

Usually you can tell if your site was rip off by the amazingly quick turnaround rate. Seems to me like the majority of these designers use pre made templates. A lot of them in the BST section have designs that look "generic."

babylonian · 12-13-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb_wolfe

I know my site was a rip off of one of the other people you did work for.

WTF did you expect taking on services?!?!

$20 for 20 PSD's, fucking laughable.
McDonalds is calling you, they could use your creative skills on the grill, retard!

Because of these people, this industry is gone to shit.

/rantoff

bb_wolfe · 12-13-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babylonian

WTF did you expect taking on services?!?!

$20 for 20 PSD's, fucking laughable.
McDonalds is calling you, they could use your creative skills on the grill, retard!

Because of these people, this industry is gone to shit.

/rantoff

Are you really that stupid, is anyone?

How the fuck do you know what my project with her was. It was a lot more than $20 and included a shitload more than a PSD. Your attempt at being witty failed, you presumptuous cunt.

Just because the bitch had $20 left in her account when I charged her back doesn't mean that's what I paid her.

clenard · 12-13-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babylonian

WTF did you expect taking on services?!?!

$20 for 20 PSD's, fucking laughable.
McDonalds is calling you, they could use your creative skills on the grill, retard!

Because of these people, this industry is gone to shit.

/rantoff

I paid about $250 for a design that she's now showing on:

Re-directing...

That link is not mine, but the design is. Go figure.

She also leaves these "custom designs" in her portfolio, and if you scroll through - you can see all of the variations of those sites that she used for others.

clenard · 12-13-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semanticflow

I think I have much more reputation, recommendation and i-trader than any other designer on this forum any my clients keep on giving me projects on regular basis. I don't have any problem or competition with any designer here.

@clenard : I make designs according to clients requirement and also don't use same structure again and again.

I would like mods to close this thread because my intension of starting the thread was totally different then the way it came out. I just wanted to know everyones opinion about it, It dosent mean I am facing any problem due to competition etc.

Thanks everyone for taking part in this.

Oh, you want to take your ball and go home now, after you started a bashing thread?

I don't think so. Game on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Perhaps you can explain this then?

:: Body News.org - Healthy Living for life ::

This looks like AN EXACT replica of a site you designed for someone else. Perhaps you should be refunding both customers. Doing This IMO is not "quality", this is DP quality.

Yep! That would be one of the designs I paid for, used in ANOTHER template! What a cunt!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb_wolfe

I had this EXACT same shit happen with her. Not only did I charge her ass back on paypal, but she only had $20 in there, then MONTHS later, came back with a sob story saying she "had a baby and wants to work things out" so she could get her paypal account back. Only can speculate that she was charged back so much, she had to go back to old accounts and beg pissed off customers to close the dispute.

I know my site was a rip off of one of the other people you did work for.

Hmmmmm... Looks like I'm not the only one then.

@Semantic Flow - I want my money back now. Immediately, for both designs since I'm now going to have to re-design both designs.

kingfish · 12-13-2009, 12:43 PM

no shit i was just thinking this but not for rates shit but cause there's a lot of new retards daily

DTAlexONE · 12-13-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clenard

Oh, you want to take your ball and go home now, after you started a bashing thread?

I don't think so. Game on.

Yep! That would be one of the designs I paid for, used in ANOTHER template! What a cunt!

Hmmmmm... Looks like I'm not the only one then.

@Semantic Flow - I want my money back now. Immediately, for both designs since I'm now going to have to re-design both designs.

Haha, I like how you call out people. Your posts on PPC Coach are entertaining.

12-12-2009, 09:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
semanticflow Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: India Posts: 318 iTrader: 81 / 100%	wickedfire is slowly turning into DP Hello Friends, I think wickedfire is now slowly tuning out into DP, as many members of DP have come here and have starting offering their services at cheap prices. What you think? Thanks semanticflow Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-12-2009, 09:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
aeisn Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 571 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Don't be so hard on yourself man. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-12-2009, 09:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Roundabout Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,503 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Ok, so the solution is for everybody to raise their rates higher than your already high rates for the betterment of Wicked Fire? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-12-2009, 09:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
dsiomtw Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: End of the rainbow Posts: 1,126 iTrader: 0 / 0%	double face palm epic whale fail circa dullspace Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-12-2009, 09:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
DTAlexONE Playboy Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 449 iTrader: 1 / 100%	That pisses me off as a designer because I can't compete with $18 a logo? Are you kidding me? To me, each design job is a labor of love and should be unique. Once you start churning logos as if you were some kind of factory, then they start losing their uniqueness. Whatever, I'm not going to undersell myself either. [/rant] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."

12-12-2009, 09:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
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12-12-2009, 10:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
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12-12-2009, 10:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
.Hack Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Nothing Can Be Explained Posts: 2,587 iTrader: 4 / 100%	indians sell themselves short period. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-12-2009, 10:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
hellblazer Agent 44 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,346 iTrader: 8 / 100%	You can't ban people just cause they don't charge high prices. If their quality is bad, they'll lose customers. If their quality is good and their prices are low, uhhh...you're probably out of luck. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "What can I do for you, Pa? Let me do something for you!" "Be a champ. Like I never was."

12-12-2009, 10:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Webwonder Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,247 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I thought this was going to be about all of the dumb ass threads people have been starting. You're upset because competition charges lower prices... smart people will go to who has the best quality of work. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-12-2009, 10:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
babylonian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 680 iTrader: 3 / 100%	@OP: LOL, I just saw your site, not wondering over prices anymore. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-12-2009, 10:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
Zikhth Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 83 iTrader: 0 / 0%	The truth comes out. Go back to DP. I'm sure they love your designs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-13-2009, 12:15 AM	#28 (permalink)
Marketcake God of Leisure Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Paradise Posts: 449 iTrader: 3 / 100%	wait.. ive seen the design of your site before. it was somone on ppc coach that recommended you. its good i found out youre a scam Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-13-2009, 01:13 AM	#31 (permalink)
DTAlexONE Playboy Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 449 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Outsourcing is one of the reasons I stopped coding. You can just hand those to the drones in India for an insanely cheap price. However, creativity is something that actually takes some talent and intelligence and IMO, is not something you'll see in their design work. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."

12-13-2009, 03:39 AM	#32 (permalink)
nkobend Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 343 iTrader: 0 / 0%	there's nothing "slow" about it. Blame the mods. You ban decent posters, and leave the DP wankers, whaddya expect???? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-13-2009, 03:44 AM	#34 (permalink)
johnysc430 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,666 iTrader: 3 / 100%	You're complaining that this is turning into DP yet you have a itrader of 66 lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

12-13-2009, 03:55 AM	#35 (permalink)
sumitdhawan09 good luck bros. Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 692 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hello friends, I think Wickedfire is new DP and that why I no visit DP very much now. Good luck bros Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-13-2009, 08:05 AM	#36 (permalink)
semanticflow Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: India Posts: 318 iTrader: 81 / 100%	I think I have much more reputation, recommendation and i-trader than any other designer on this forum any my clients keep on giving me projects on regular basis. I don't have any problem or competition with any designer here. @clenard : I make designs according to clients requirement and also don't use same structure again and again. I would like mods to close this thread because my intension of starting the thread was totally different then the way it came out. I just wanted to know everyones opinion about it, It dosent mean I am facing any problem due to competition etc. Thanks everyone for taking part in this. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-13-2009, 08:43 AM	#41 (permalink)
retard LInK BuiLdEr Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In my own world Posts: 196 iTrader: 11 / 100%	Ignore the retards work while they work. Cheap does not mean lucrative. Just work as you are working and provide quality work. All those Indians or south asians will back out. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Link building Services - Service before Self Contact me for various services and special discounts. PM me

12-13-2009, 09:01 AM	#42 (permalink)
AllBizNiz Jackpotting Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 1,454 iTrader: 32 / 100%	I can still understand the questions/comments on WF. Almost 99.9 % of the posts on DP make no fucking sense and are hard to decipher. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-13-2009, 12:43 PM	#49 (permalink)
kingfish Champion of Awesome Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,501 iTrader: 9 / 100%	no shit i was just thinking this but not for rates shit but cause there's a lot of new retards daily Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

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