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Old 12-14-2009, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Darkside If you wanted to ruin someone's life....

and you had their passport, resume, date of birth, home address, and phone number... how would you go about doing it?

Long story short, some 20 year old douchebag from Vietnam stole my course-notes.org domain name a month ago and sold it back to me for a large amount of money.

Thoughts I've had so far:
-Hiring a lawyer in Vietnam to go after him
-Setting up a ngominhheiuisathief.com page and SEO the shit out of it
-Contacting anyone listed as a reference/previous employer on his resume

Here are the details I have on him so far:

Name: Ngo Minh Hieu
Address: 33/3 Le Van Sy, Phuong 13, Quan Phu Nhuan
City: Ho Chi Minh
Zip code: 70000
Country: Viet Nam
Phone: +84972666627
Email: hieupc@gmail..com /
[email protected]

See attached passport image and english translation of his resume.

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Old 12-14-2009, 03:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wonder if Vietnam has any international legal agreements with the US when it comes to protecting the privacy of individuals. (in short you could be setting yourself up for some nasty criminal charges especially now that this thread is indexed over simply losing a domain).

PS: What's up with this spelling "Viet Nam" (unless you mean the native Việt Nam)?
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Thoughts I've had so far:
-Hiring a lawyer in Vietnam to go after him
-Setting up a ngominhheiuisathief.com page and SEO the shit out of it
-Contacting anyone listed as a reference/previous employer on his resume

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Old 12-14-2009, 03:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How did he steal your domain?
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If by 'stealing', you mean he registered the domain when it expired, that's not really stealing.

If, on the other hand, he hacked into your account, go nuts. Destroy him.
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If by 'stealing', you mean he registered the domain when it expired, that's not really stealing.

If, on the other hand, he hacked into your account, go nuts. Destroy him.
Only other thing I can think of, is he:

A) had the domain unlocked and didn't respond to the transfer notification in which the transfer proceeded as usual without his intervention.
B) He sold the domain to him, used paypal, and the buyer reversed the payment after the transfer.

But seeing as he's a hosting guide, I doubt (a)
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If the information in the resume is correct, try to contact his current work place and inform them on his activities. Find his relatives and tell them to persuade him to give back the money.
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Nope... I remember the thread... it was regged at godaddy, and the dude stole it.

Burry him.


What I can't believe is that Godaddy wouldn't do anything!?! Tell me I'm fuckin mistaken please? *ducks in worry of own portfolio*
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Nope... I remember the thread... it was regged at godaddy, and the dude stole it.

Burry him.


What I can't believe is that Godaddy wouldn't do anything!?! Tell me I'm fuckin mistaken please? *ducks in worry of own portfolio*
In the event that the transfer was initiated by the account holder, godaddy will not do anything to reverse the transfer. Basically thus why I was thinking it was a sale going on, and the payment got reversed. Cuz if the guy actually 'hacked' into his account, godaddy would be more accommodating.
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Nope... I remember the thread... it was regged at godaddy, and the dude stole it.

Burry him.


What I can't believe is that Godaddy wouldn't do anything!?! Tell me I'm fuckin mistaken please? *ducks in worry of own portfolio*
Yup, somehow the guy was able to get access to my godaddy account, and then transfer the domain name out. Just to be clear, there was no sale and it was not expiring anytime soon I've wiped my computer clean since then and had a couple security audits performed on the server so I doubt that's gonna happen again.

GoDaddy and especially Enom were very unhelpful even after I sent them upwards of 50 pages of documents including an admission of guilt from the hacker. If I were you, I'd transfer your domains to moniker and set up the domain maxlock protection that requires proof of identification and other documentation to be provided to transfer away any domains.
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With all that information can't you steal his identity and prove to godaddy that you're the owner of his account and transfer his domains elsewhere? p0wnd!

Either that, or, I have to imagine outsourcing an asswhuppin in Vietnam can't be too expensive. Get a volume discount for having the guy smacked every week for the next three years.
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Can you not sue godaddy? I'd recommend talking to an attorney to lay out your legal options. Something like this happened to me and I just spoke to the customer service of my hosting company and they fixed it.

I did hear a story about a guy advertising his gun for hire services on craigslist once.
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"...so whatever your thinking; you better think again; otherwise I’m going to have to head down there and I will rain down in a godly fuck’n fire storm upon you, your going to have to call the fuck’n United Nation to get a fuck’n binding resolution to keep me from fuck’n destroying you! I Am Talking Scorched Earth Mother Fucker! I will Massacre You! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!"
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With all that information can't you steal his identity and prove to godaddy that you're the owner of his account and transfer his domains elsewhere? p0wnd!

Either that, or, I have to imagine outsourcing an asswhuppin in Vietnam can't be too expensive. Get a volume discount for having the guy smacked every week for the next three years.
Yah, but that could get me in hot water for perjury. Don't want to get a felony on my record for something stupid.
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Contact his employer
SEO him like Gary Thiem (car loan asshole)
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Contact his employer
SEO him like Gary Thiem (car loan asshole)
That's the name I couldnt remember! But yah, that's the game plan.
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-Rank a page to inform future potential employers of what he did

-Contact his current employer

-After that, write off the amount he stole in making you buy it back and forget about it. Sounds like gay advice when you want revenge but instead of hurting him just protect others (warn employers)

I'd be more inclined to want to destroy the rep of godaddy and enom for their lack of assistance in this matter than I'd be to try to get money or pain out of the hacker.
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Too bad he doesn't live in the US. Ordering 50 pizzas to someones house using Dominoes and then watching their online delivery tracker was golden.
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If he lived in the US, I'd be at his house right now
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Too bad he doesn't live in the US. Ordering 50 pizzas to someones house using Dominoes and then watching their online delivery tracker was golden.
I have to try that sometime.
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Does Vietnam have Craigslist or something similar? You can always post a fake ad advertising free "stuff" at his house, whatever that stuff might be. I'd also confirm that the address is a physical address and not a PO box or something like that.
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napalm?


i kid i kid...

seriously... Vietnam is a communist country. Knowing about life in this kind of societies id say go with option #2.
Id try to contact authorities over there and and tell them he has been trying to sell confidential info to western powers.

I guarantee you as ridiculous as it sounds it will be followed up by them.
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First thing to do would be to not post your intentions on a very public forum. This way after your hire the assassin or whatever you wont be caught. Too late now though I guess.
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Simply make him aware you have a lot of information on him and that you'd more than happy to see his ass in jail if he does not repay you your money.

Oh, another point... you're a fucking child. What kind of self-respecting MAN publishes a boys life details like that online AND goes whining to an Internet forum. He's 20, stupid and poor. You're supposed to be 49 year old grown man for God's sake (and your details are all over the internet... proving your a very stupid 49 year old man). How embittered must you be with Life to want to destroy someone so foolish and young? Try to display the slightest modicum of maturity and please delete that young lads' details. Who hasn't ever made a huge mistake in their youth before?

Fuck... this is truly shameful. It's a shame he made such a stupid mistake and it's a shame for you to react in such a pitiful way.

Other moderators must have seen this post...and you have done nothing.

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Simply make him aware you have a lot of information on him and that you'd more than happy to see his ass in jail if he does not repay you your money.

Oh, another point... you're a fucking child. What kind of self-respecting MAN publishes a boys life details like that online AND goes whining to an Internet forum. He's 20, stupid and poor. You're supposed to be 49 year old grown man for God's sake (and your details are all over the internet... proving your a very stupid 49 year old man). How embittered must you be with Life to want to destroy someone so foolish and young? Try to display the slightest modicum of maturity and please delete that young lads' details. Who hasn't ever made a huge mistake in their youth before?

Fuck... this is truly shameful. It's a shame he made such a stupid mistake and it's a shame for you to react in such a pitiful way.

Other moderators must have seen this post...and you have done nothing.

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Simply make him aware you have a lot of information on him and that you'd more than happy to see his ass in jail if he does not repay you your money.

Oh, another point... you're a fucking child. What kind of self-respecting MAN publishes a boys life details like that online AND goes whining to an Internet forum. He's 20, stupid and poor. You're supposed to be 49 year old grown man for God's sake (and your details are all over the internet... proving your a very stupid 49 year old man). How embittered must you be with Life to want to destroy someone so foolish and young? Try to display the slightest modicum of maturity and please delete that young lads' details. Who hasn't ever made a huge mistake in their youth before?

Fuck... this is truly shameful. It's a shame he made such a stupid mistake and it's a shame for you to react in such a pitiful way.

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Simply make him aware you have a lot of information on him and that you'd more than happy to see his ass in jail if he does not repay you your money.

Oh, another point... you're a fucking child. What kind of self-respecting MAN publishes a boys life details like that online AND goes whining to an Internet forum. He's 20, stupid and poor. You're supposed to be 49 year old grown man for God's sake (and your details are all over the internet... proving your a very stupid 49 year old man). How embittered must you be with Life to want to destroy someone so foolish and young? Try to display the slightest modicum of maturity and please delete that young lads' details. Who hasn't ever made a huge mistake in their youth before?

Fuck... this is truly shameful. It's a shame he made such a stupid mistake and it's a shame for you to react in such a pitiful way.

Other moderators must have seen this post...and you have done nothing.

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Simply make him aware you have a lot of information on him and that you'd more than happy to see his ass in jail if he does not repay you your money.

Oh, another point... you're a fucking child. What kind of self-respecting MAN publishes a boys life details like that online AND goes whining to an Internet forum. He's 20, stupid and poor. You're supposed to be 49 year old grown man for God's sake (and your details are all over the internet... proving your a very stupid 49 year old man). How embittered must you be with Life to want to destroy someone so foolish and young? Try to display the slightest modicum of maturity and please delete that young lads' details. Who hasn't ever made a huge mistake in their youth before?

Fuck... this is truly shameful. It's a shame he made such a stupid mistake and it's a shame for you to react in such a pitiful way.

Other moderators must have seen this post...and you have done nothing.

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Not really sure who you and why you think you know me (I'm definitely not 49, for one) but I'll have you know that I tried to reason with the person and he didn't want to be logical, even after I presented him with the potential consequences of his actions.

Being poor is no excuse. I grew up in a family that definitely would not be considered wealthy but I worked hard. This person clearly has a lot of talent with computers but instead of doing something productive with his talents, he chooses to use them in a destructive manner.

I could go on and on, but I see you've sad your good byes to WF so there's no more point in writing.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAH i second this. he will get really fucked
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and you had their passport, resume, date of birth, home address, and phone number... how would you go about doing it?

Long story short, some 20 year old douchebag from Vietnam stole my course-notes.org domain name a month ago and sold it back to me for a large amount of money.

Thoughts I've had so far:
-Hiring a lawyer in Vietnam to go after him
-Setting up a ngominhheiuisathief.com page and SEO the shit out of it
-Contacting anyone listed as a reference/previous employer on his resume

Here are the details I have on him so far:

Name: Ngo Minh Hieu
Address: 33/3 Le Van Sy, Phuong 13, Quan Phu Nhuan
City: Ho Chi Minh
Zip code: 70000
Country: Viet Nam
Phone: +84972666627
Email: hieupc@gmail..com /
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See attached passport image and english translation of his resume.

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If you post all his information on /b/, he will get screwed over... for the LULZ.
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Probably pretty easy to get him on terrorist watch lists, since he's basically committing cyber terrorism anyway
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If you post all his information on /b/, he will get screwed over... for the LULZ.
Nah, /b/ is not a "personal army", and if you post peoples info like that, often they will try to counter raid the person posting info.

If you posted some fake info, and then "leaked" your target's info as "the op's info" you have a better shot.
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Nah, /b/ is not a "personal army", and if you post peoples info like that, often they will try to counter raid the person posting info.

If you posted some fake info, and then "leaked" your target's info as "the op's info" you have a better shot.
It's kinda like bitching here on WF, it more often than not backfires except on 4chan you can feel the backfire almost immediately.
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This person clearly has a lot of talent with computers but instead of doing something productive with his talents, he chooses to use them in a destructive manner.
... but do you not see this action of yours could be far more destructive to him than what he did to you?

You made no mention of his unwilliness to co-operate so you can see why I wrote how I did.

Look, I'll be honest... you ARE acting like a fucking child. I understand he has hurt you but's it just money. Be a man .. the bigger man... and take a different approach.

Put an advert on a classified site for his location, pay a guy to take pics of his house. Tell him your renting it and need an outside pic for when the lease ends. Send the scammer the photo and say you got a henchman set up in a hotel 5 mins away. "Give me my money" or one phone call and he's in pain forever.

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I could go on and on, but I see you've sad your good byes to WF so there's no more point in writing.
Yeah, your post convinced me I shouldn't be reading such bile and vitriol on a regular basis.

The sad thing is I have probably spoken to a lot of you guys here on WF in real life and we have both appeared decent enough guys to each other... but the way you've let the bottom feeders fuck up the place... not a lot of decent guys want to be here anymore.
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... but do you not see this action of yours could be far more destructive to him than what he did to you?

You made no mention of his unwilliness to co-operate so you can see why I wrote how I did.

Look, I'll be honest... you ARE acting like a fucking child. I understand he has hurt you but's it just money. Be a man .. the bigger man... and take a different approach.

Put an advert on a classified site for his location, pay a guy to take pics of his house. Tell him your renting it and need an outside pic for when the lease ends. Send the scammer the photo and say you got a henchman set up in a hotel 5 mins away. "Give me my money" or one phone call and he's in pain forever.

Grow a pair.



Yeah, your post convinced me I shouldn't be reading such bile and vitriol on a regular basis.

The sad thing is I have probably spoken to a lot of you guys here on WF in real life and we have both appeared decent enough guys to each other... but the way you've let the bottom feeders fuck up the place... not a lot of decent guys want to be here anymore.
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Because that will take $2500 to start the dispute, another $2000-2500 for legal fees (I got estimates), and then the lost revenue in waiting the 2-4 months to get the domain name back would definitely set me even more money.
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Because that will take $2500 to start the dispute, another $2000-2500 for legal fees (I got estimates), and then the lost revenue in waiting the 2-4 months to get the domain name back would definitely set me even more money.
I know, and you're 100% right, but you'd have the site back.

I recall you redid it a year ago right? I liked it a lot and had I been in university I'd likely use it.

$4K for that domain would certainly be worth it, esp since you can expense the money against your tax liability.
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