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Of Executive Orders and Trojan Horses

Published in December 22nd, 2009
Posted by TMH in Authors, Constitution, Financial, Founding Fathers, Military, Politics, Survival, Taxation, Terresa Monroe-Hamilton, Terrorism
By: Terresa Monroe-Hamilton


With Obama, always, always look at the other hand…

Yesterday, it was brought to my attention by Pierre Legrand that President Obama signed an Executive Order on December 17th that no one and I mean no one, reported on. Cue the crickets…

As horrifying as the health care legislation is and I personally believe it is worthy of revolt, this Executive Order has the potential to be monstrous.

Here is the Executive Order:

The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
December 17, 2009
Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425
EXECUTIVE ORDER
- – - – - – -
AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words “except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act” and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
BARACK OBAMA

Nudge, nudge folks… This seems a minor change but let us break it out for you as we see it. Let’s look at the section from Executive Order 12425.

Here’s the text of 2(c), which this Executive Order now has applying to Interpol:

(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

This now says that Interpol is no longer subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Their premises or staff can no longer be searched either.

Their files are not subject to legal subpoena or discovery. Our government could just hand documents and files over to Interpol and Americans would no longer have access to them.

Interpol can legally keep files now on all citizens of the US with no right to redress.

In reality, we have just handed over our sovereignty. Interpol headquarters in the US is currently headquartered in the Department of Justice.

A ‘separate’ Interpol agency has been created in the DOJ – let that sink in for a moment.

Interpol has been granted diplomatic immunity now by Obama – they have exemption from being subject to search and seizure by law enforcement, US taxes and immunity from FOIA requests, etc.

This action could also be used to divulge American military secrets and a whole host of horrific practices having to do with going after our military. It’s the road to internationalism on steroids.

I contend this is the foundation for an international governing and policing body. A modern day SS here in the US if you like. Remember how Obama wanted to create a civilian police force? Well, it’s here, just from a direction I never saw it coming from.

I really believe you will see Interpol police forces on US soil in the near future. It will resemble the Gestapo and their intelligence gathering techniques.

This police force would not be subject to our normal Constitutional oversights – remember, no search and seizure etc. You have to admire the evil genius behind all this. Just stunning.

For a great overview of all this, listen to Steve Schippert’s radio broadcast:
The Steve Schippert Show – December 22, 2009

The Patriot Room also has a great article: Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands

INTERPOL, an international criminal police organization, is now poised to reside above the United States Constitution – in a place of sanctity beyond our FBI, CIA, DIA, and all other criminal investigatory domestic organizations.

President Obama has just placed our Constitutional rights under international law.

Garry Hamilton has this to say:

It is well to know who these people are, and where they’ve been. Though the expression “modern day SS” sounds like a hyperbolic metaphor, an examination of Interpol’s roots shows that it is, in fact, more literally true than that.

I was in Europe in 1973 when an expose was published, revealing that many, if not all, of the presidents of Interpol from the late 1930s or early ’40s until at least 1972 were Nazi Gestapo and SS officers.

Reinhard (”The Hangman”), Heydrich (also head of Nazi SS Intelligence Service) and Gestapo chief Ernst Kaltenbrunner. By 1942 Interpol was consolidated with the Nazi Central Police, run by the Gestapo.

As the Nazis invaded cities throughout Europe, police files from each were seized and evidently integrated into Interpol’s files. In 1972 the sitting Interpol President was Paul Dickopf, former Nazi SS officer (SS #337259).

The source on this? The Simon Wiesenthal Center. Simon Wiesenthal is pretty much the most famous of the post-war Nazi hunters, having impressively thorough files.

Interpol isn’t just any old bunch of thugs. They are rooted in one of the most effective and ruthless gang of thugs anywhere, ever.

If there is anything at all that can be done to nullify this Executive Order, it needs to be done soonest.

The idea of an American President enlisting the aid of both old Communists and old Nazis to bring about the fall of the United States is the stuff of rejected bad novel plots. No one would ever buy a plot that cheesy.

I mean, really, would you go see a movie about a President who rose to power through voter fraud and union thuggery, and then brought in the survivors of the two most virulent enemies the country has ever had in order to deliver the knock-out punch to our culture and nation?

No, you wouldn’t. It would be the stupidest piece of modern fiction on record. It’s totally unbelievable as a story line.

Yeah, it’s really lame fiction.

It makes for even worse reality.

Interpol are not the good guys. Nothing good can come from giving them any domain at all in our country.

And Garry is so very right…

Remember, Obama did this while no one was looking and while they were distracted. No media outlet is looking into it. No one is ringing alarm bells.

This is happening and it is here. The Trojan Horse of health care for all was definitely a pig with lipstick. The Interpol Executive Order is a shiny Trojan Horse that has the potential to grind America beneath Obama’s bootheel…

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The dipshit just can't seem to get over himself can he? He'll do anything to be called President of Earth.

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I think it's more serious than mere hubris.

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That may be the wisest thing you have written in 2009.

Obama doesn't write anything. He just rubber stamps it.

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Enigmabomb

Please tell us how this relates to the illuminati and how they are working on the FEMA train cars using this order.

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Hmm.....just another step towards NWO

Refrozen

You know, other than the crazy "NWO" shit that just came up, I kind of agree with this being a big deal. If its represented right.

It says in the original act "granted immunity except as by section 2(c)" (the other sections are all about taxes and shipping stuff via air, so fine, they're not immune to taxes either sometimes)... but then 2(c) says.

Is there anything about the phrase "expressly waived" that means "freedom of information act request"? Otherwise, it doesn't seem like anything has changed with that regard. To me, expressly waived means "Interpol agrees to be searched," but perhaps there's some precedent I'm not understanding here.

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kblessinggr

Basically Interpol has the same immunity as a diplomat visiting...

It probably wasn't reported on because once properly broken down, they'd be ridiculed making a mound out of a mole hill.

This is what happens when people read (incorrectly) too much into legal speak.

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RumMonkey

So Barrack's turning out to be a bit of a cunt then. Have you all watched Fall of the Republic yet?

LotsOfZeros

I don't give a rat's ass who they are. NO international police force has any business on our soil. Period. We have all the home grown manpower, firepower and intelligence we will ever need right here. Cooperation is fine (and often necessary) but allowing any show of force not bound by the Constitution is setting a very bad precedence for the future.

Obama is joke of a president. He swore to defend the Constitution and now stomps all over it. His actions are treasonous. I wish our country would make him pay for his crimes.

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JarredLv

Well, we didn't make Bush pay for his so I'm not going to hold my breath that anything happens to this chump, I mean, you have to agree that the patriot act is much much worse, which Obama has shown unfortunate support for....on a side note, I was listening to some music and I think it made reading this thread more chilling...Try it, let me know. This is the song I was listening to:

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Midas Touch

It's not reading too much into it, it's exposing the dangers of such a legal opening that can very easily be misused to our detriment.

By the way, of course he is "Puppet Obama". Why do you think that at no time was his FULL name ever disclosed publicly during the campaign for office? I mean not even the Republican party leaked out his middle name of Hussein. Does anyone REALLY think that he would have made office running around tauting his full name of Barak Hussein Obama when we had Saddam Hussein as Public enemy no. 1 for how many years and then public enemy number two in the public's mind was Osama bin Laden.


Had the republicans just put out a few messages of comparison to Sadam Hussein & Osama to Hussein Obama just the phonetics of the comparison would have been enough to trigger the fear/warning in the minds of the general public and would have SUNK Obama's campaign with deft swiftness.

But just like the South Park episode where Mcain high fives Obmana and Says, "Man that was close, for a second there I though that they were going to elect me." Obama was definitely going to be in office no matter what so that who or whom ever is behind all of this can continue to stay in the shadows and still get their agenda accomplished.

I too was once a "Disillusioned Democrat" when I was young, but now I'm a Realistic Republican who is DAMN PISSED OFF that there is no more "Two Party" system!! WE really have been led around by the NWO whether we want to believe it or not. (NATO during wars and INTERPOL during peace and in the civillian sector.)

You know, the Germans LAUGHED at the Nazis and their demonstrations in the streets thinking that they were BOTH no threat and speaking nonsense. Look at what happened to those "WISE & INSIGHTFUL" people.

So, no one should go around Poo-Pooing those that are keeping a vigilant watch over those seeking to strip of us our hard faught for Human Rights.

Peace Out!!!

I'm done.

For now. Lulz

P.S. What's up with the New "No pregnancy" military law where both the Male and Femle are subject to punishment? Oh and what will that punishment be by the way, abortion or castration? DAMN!! It just keeps getting better and better. (A No Sex policy in a war zone where there are men and women in close proximity. Pa.....LEEEZZZ!!!! Palm to forehead!!) Our boy Obama must be supporting this as well.

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Magic Hat

Most candidates only run on their first and last name. When is the last time you heard any candidate "running around taunting his full name". Everyone knew about it going into the election anyway.

His middle name was brought up several times by Republican pundits. Nobody seemed to care besides right-wing nutjobs.

Not saying I agree with Obama or this order, but surely you can come up with some better points to support your opinions.

dp4perchas3r

fuck obama

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Only an idiot would assume that he's a terrorist because he shares a part of his name with one. This is a tired argument and was never based on any logical line of thought.*

*I think Obama is a shit president, a shady bitch with his own agenda, and a fucking douche but this "omg he's a terrorist because of his middle name" shit is fucking old.

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dp4perchas3r

no one said hes a terrorist because of his name

were just saying his name is trash & he shouldn't be our fucking president

kblessinggr

I should probably change my name, God Forbid if someone confused "Karl" with "Karl Marx".

In any case, how is that even relevant? I didn't see John McCain throwing his middle name around...

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kblessinggr

The same idiots that shuddered in fear every time someone rumored he was a muslim... even if he were islamic... would that mean he's a terrorist or bad person?

I wouldn't play someone's religion into their ability to do the job, look at the religion affiliation of all the politicians in various confirmed scandals and convictions.

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He shouldn't be president cuz he was born with a name related to a guy we now know as a dictator? His name is trash because its arabic in origin? Just think about how smart that sounds...

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Midas Touch

Guys, c'mon, my point here was that the "Sheeple" on a whole act on EMOTION and not logic. As marketers we KNOW that fear is a powerful motivator and the republican party could have really played this up if they really wanted to stop him. But they did not.

All I was saying is that the powers that be wanted Obama in office to perpetuate whatever their master plan is.

"I" could care less about someone's name as far as their ability to do a job.

Now, religion is a different story, if they have extremist beliefs that undervalue the importance of the lives of people outside of their religion. Then that becomes a significant factor in their abilty to justly handle human affairs in fair manner.

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Course for that matter, its just as possible to have extremist christians (ie: Soldiers for Christ trying to keep non-Christians out of political positions), as it is to have extremist muslims. So the scare tactic of claiming he's muslim doesn't mean much unless you consider the entire islamic faith a terrorist-prone religion (where as I say any religion can turn for the worse).

Far as the whole Interpol issue, the US is not a part of the EU/UK, and as I see it while he may be able to grant them certain "priviliages" in the spirit of co-operation, they should never have more ability to arrest/detain/search an american citizen than our own local law enforcement. Meaning if they are after someone here in the US, I feel they must go thru the proper channels, such as working with local and or federal law enforcement agencies, as opposed to working on their own. At least when it comes to persuing or investigating someone on American soil.

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Moxie

People that already felt comfortable voting for someone named Barack Obama weren't going to be swayed by finding out his middle name. If his name was Mike Smith or something, then you'd have a better argument. The more pandering to extremist voters, the greater risk of turning away undecided voters.

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What the fuck happened to this thread.

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You can't compare extremist Christians with extremist Muslims..Please don't start that ignorant argument..please.

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You are right. BO is not a Muslim. Is he an apologist for Muslim extremism? (as his self proclaimed spiratual leader is) YES. After a couple of years of extensive study of this man; I believe his religeon to be "power" and "himself".

You bring up the point that if he were Muslim would he automaticaly be a terrorist. Not neccessarily...but there is a 10% chance (and that estimate of what percentage of Muslims are extremist, is said to be a very conservtive estimate) that he would be an extremist.

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fuck obama this fuck obama that. I say fuck the idiots who voted either party candidate into possible election. I think one of the main reasons obama was voted into office was not because his qualifications because he has none. It was more that the republican party was pushing an old geezer with a retard as a vice president. People were scared of john mccain dying in office and leaving retard palin as president. if john mccain had chosen a different VP he would be in office right now.

kblessinggr

So someone killing in the name of God, trumps those killing in the name of Allah... right, I'll consider that ignorant argument instead.

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popeye

the lone wolf crazy Christian that shots an abortion doctor is equal to a whole sect of millions of muslims that preach to stone women and behead innocent men, women and children?

please explain how your statement makes any sense whatsover?

Please name ONE sanctioned Christian church that preaches that we should behead the non-believers? There are sanctioned mosque on American soil that preach this.

apples and oranges.

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So basically it means International Police can shove a floor lamp up my asshole and I can't object?

Almost sounds like China.

kblessinggr

Sanctioned by whom though?

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mason

not really apples and oranges if you go back far enough in time. pretty sure christians also stoned women and beheaded innocent men etc etc. all the same to me. who knows... maybe in 200 years, muslims would be more like present day christians and preach their religion peacefully.

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popeye

Please..Please can't athiest/muslim extremist apologist ever argue "Christanity vs. Islam" without bringing up a Christian defensive war that happend when man was still fighting with swords?

Really that argument is on the same level as "All whites are racist and evil because their ancestors may have owned slaves over 100 years ago."

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You bet!

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SUP3RNOVA

NOT THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN.

Go back in old "Muslim/Christian" threads to see that argument drawn out far longer than it should have been.

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Unarmed Gunman

Fuck it - I'll jump into this derailed thread too. I should start by saying I don't believe Islam to be a peaceful religion. I base that on actually reading the Qu'ran, not someone's interpretation of it, or the actions of some professed believers in it. It is a violent book, and calls for violent actions/reactions in the name of spreading itself.

However, the other Abrahamic religions have violent histories (not just one "defensive" war Popeye..) and the Old Testament in particular sanctions violence in a big way. If anyone disputes that we can go chapter and verse in this mother fucker if we need to. That doesn't make Christians or Jews violent, but the Old Testament is what it is. The reality is, very few Christians make it beyond Psalms, Proverbs, Matthew/Mark/Luke/John, Genesis and Revelations. Those are only 8 of the 66 books in the Christian Bible and as a result most Christians don't fully understand their religion. I'm not saying that to bash Christians, but I think it's important to come to terms with what your "Holy Book" actually says, before you start ripping apart someone else's equally flawed "Holy Book".

The difference is that Christianity as a religion is older, and the mainstream interpretation of the religion has matured out of it's violent nature for the most part. Some would argue that Christianity is still as violent based on all the wars that have been waged by supposedly Christian nations, but I wouldn't go that far because unless the war is waged on the basis of religion, then I wouldn't say it's quite the same.

Christianity and Judaism both have extremely violent, and often oppressive pasts and their holy books advocate violence in a big way, but Islam is certainly a bigger threat today and far from a religion of peace. But like every other holy book, many of its contents can be interpreted in various ways, and the underlying flaw of human nature that makes everybody so goddamn sure that they are the only ones that possess the absolute truth and everybody else is either ignorant or simply mislead is what leads to all this goddamn violence in the name of religion.

I always laugh when some obvious 8th grade drop out (or tent dweller for that matter) seems to think that they possess the keys to knowledge in this world and insist on making a fool of themselves trying to convince and convert others that their way and their interpretation of a flawed book (pick one) is the only way to get to (fill in the blank fantasy). Religion in a nutshell...

What was this thread about again...? Oh yeah, Obama and Bush suck.

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You laugh but how many people would vote for John Hitler in 2012? Names mean a lot to the unwashed masses.

Unarmed Gunman

Obviously not too much, because Barack Hussein Obama (as Rush and Hannity always reminded us) got elected...

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LotsOfZeros

Don't single them out alone. So easily you forget the teacher "Mmm Mmm Mmm... Barack Hussein Obama"

Meh, these discussions are practically moot anyways:



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popeye

You are correct. Moses (in the old testament) commanded that adultery be punished by stoning. Followers of the old testament back in the day wouldn't have seemed much different than the muslim extremist of today. Without a long drawn out biblical response: The sacrifice of Jesus upon the cross did away with "the Law" of Moses (this is how it has been explained to me by a few folks that I believe know what the hell they are talking about).

However, my argument is not a pissing match on which religeon is "the most rightous" I simply pointed out the ignorance of people relating the violence of Christians in today's world to that of barbaric muslim extremist.

So rant on buddy...it's out of context as far as my post are concerned but amusing nontheless.

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kblessinggr

Pretty pointless if you don't average in all the polls together, since the polls are strictly based upon who they ask, and who's answer they choose to include. (and besides that chart is only based on 1,500 likely voters...)

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LotsOfZeros

Rasmussen is random and non-partisan polling. Their methods are based on the premise that people who are 'strongly' for or against something are a much more precise barometer of actual support than if they asked generally "do you support or not support". Those other polls give too much weight to the apathetic sheeple who know zip about anything and glue themselves to reality TV too much.

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Rasmussen has proven to be one of the best polling systems available. They nailed the last pres. election. Many Democratic pollsters agree with this...of course, only when the numbers are in their favor.

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I'm just skeptical that one could weigh the assumption of what 300+ million citizens think, based on a mere 1.5 thousand random people polled, especially since shifting the location of those people even one mile could come out with a vastly different/random result depending on exactly where they are polling.

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Unarmed Gunman

Rasmussen's polling is fine, but I guess I'm missing the point. People support him a lot less now because they see he hasn't done shit. My point was simply that they elected him last year, despite all the emphasis on his unfortunate name leading up to the elections. The argumnet was that if people had focused more on his middle name, that he wouldn't have been elected, and I just pointed out that his name was well known and he still got elected.

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Besides the weight of expectation is always greatest the first year, people tend to expect an immediate return on their invested vote. I personally don't think McCain could have done any better sooner (especially with Palin draging him down), given how fucked we were to begin with.

Also he has done plenty thus far... just a matter of do people really approve of it enough to consider it an effort (or even think what he did was effective or not)? Like this thing with Interpol, thats a bold move, he did something, I wouldn't say most of us would approve though, especially since the Govt, hate em or not, should have the supreme authority on our own soil.

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It's daily phone polling. They choose a different batch of 1500 people each day randomly and that's why it's demonstrated in chart form over time to show the consensus based on the results of each day's polling.

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