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All right I'll admit I'm a member of Agloco, like the name doesn't give it away, but I've been searching through these forums and only found like two posts that talk about Agloco or AllAdvantage so I wanted to talk about it with everyone here.
Who was around back in the day when AllAdvantage was around? I've read that John Chow was which is probably why he has over 4000 people in his network but thats a far cry from Mcall who is now over 13,000 people in his network. I mean seriously they have only been around for about 10 weeks now and 13,000 people under him, it must be nice to know some good affiliate marketers that you can just call up. Anyway I just figured if your intrested in shooting the shit you can come in here and yap about Agloco or AllAdvantage, Does anyone think that you could actually earn some money with them? I think I'll be able too but thats just based from what I've read and what I've set up in my blog. Let me know, maybe we'll toss a few arguments back and forth and learn something.
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no not trying to promote, I hope you can trust me on that one I've seen what happened to the last fool who tried to promote on here, banned right away.
But I just haven't seen much conversations going on about this here and since its quiet a big program I was wondering why is no one talking about it? Oh yeah by the way I read your entire SEO post last night, great info I look forward to more updates.
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LoL Elephant nice guess on that one but if I wanted to promote I'd be saying hey look over here join me, but no seriously I'll even take down my signature for awhile if it makes everyone feel better.
Like I said I just want to see what everyone here is thinks about Agloco and AllAdvantage. This place is great for getting some information so I figured why not talk about it.
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all advantage is pure shit and a waste of time. Everyone and there mom was using it before. Half of the people I knew ran programs to cheat it and never got caught. Nobody I knew ever got a check. Sure... get 13k people under you you're gonna do alright. Waste of time otherwise. OH! I guess i'll go link spam my affiliate code on a message board and talk about it.
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haha your not going to let that one up are you, next time I'll know better then to have the links up before posting about an affiliate program.
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Exactly what you said it is... Pure HYPE. |
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Sorry it took me a few to respond I was writing a private message.
Hype is exactly what it may be but what if your wrong when AllAdvantage went under they were quoted being worth 1.6 billion but they were not on the stock exchange at the time they were still a private company. Agloco is going public almost right away and the stats on them show that there already doing much better then AllAdvantage so 1.6 billion or more could potentially be shared amoung the 10 Million people who sign up, if it reaches that much but there is nothing to say it won't. As with the old AllAdvantage model not everyone will be paid equally, the more you refer the more you make, kind of like 90% of any affiliate program around even though Agloco is being called more MLM then an Affiliate Program. Hey look at that I've got my first reputation of "fucking spammer" but I say to everyone who thinks that what makes this post so different from any other topic on the forums, have a look around we're all here to talk about Affiliate marketing and guess what thats what I'm doing.
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sure as heck not me but I'd like to be featured there with my blog, how are you involved with agloco or were you just saying that?
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Well good job, so what can you add to this topic?
Actually no just one question did you get paid for your work? If not did you do it for free on purpose? That should help out with a few people saying no one has gotten paid by them before.
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Perhaps there's not much discussion about it because, well, there's not much to discuss? No one has the toolbar yet, the "member calculator" is pretty much wishful thinking... Once someone starts earning something, I'm sure you'll see a lot more discussion. Until then it's just hot air.
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Good points the viewbar is still in beta and won't come out for a few more weeks and no one has gotten paid because they won't start earning until the viewbar comes out.
But they do allow you to grow your network now so that when the viewbar is released you can earn a lot more money up front. The second thing is that yes I thought the member calculator was broken too but it doesn't calculate how much your going to make it simply calculates how many hours you could get. Each direct member you get 1 share per hour surfed to a max of 5 hours and then you get 1/4 share per every hour surfed all the way down your network. I was doing some calculations and it's still off but not that much when you begin to think about it in terms of hours and not in terms of how much your going to be making. I think there is not an extreme amount to discuss but I do think there is enough, for instance I've ran into a lot of people who has said there not signing up until the viewbar is released and until someone gets their first check. I think this is the wrong way to think because the rush has not came yet and it will only come when the viewbar is released and when the first people get their checks, when this happens I want to already be at the top of the SERPS to cash in on the additional traffic.
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Well then its nice to meet another person who is part of or helped out on the Agloco project.
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I'm just pissed because I was almost the one that referred John Chow. As soon as I saw it (pretty much the day it was announced) I though I'd better tell John about it, because I knew how big he had been into AllAdvantage, but then I figure he must know about it already, so I didn't email him, then I found out later in the day someone else emailed him and got his referral. Oh well...
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fuck, I'm going to hijack this thread and you can all flame me later for it, I don't give a shit.
Instead of praising Agloco for giving us all magical, yet gay, unicorns to keep chained up to the tree in our front yard so all our neighbors see and want one too (I know, let's scan checks and post them on our blogs!), let's call this for what it is. I'm sure that Agloco is going to be a great application. But seriously, what's with the hype? There were once over 30 "magic ad bar" companies with similar models and none of them survived. Why? Shitty traffic. Advertisers caught on and stopped buying ads. Sure, Agloco is doing PPC searches and CPA banners blah blah blah... ePipo, ePilot (wayback them, they were a whole different company), and Utopia ads all did the same thing. PPC was eventually shut off because the advertisers (yup they're there too) weren't getting the conversions so they canceled the campaigns with the search engines. Sure we have a whole new level of arbitrage now, but if all your seeing are 4 levels worth of arbi sites, then eventually users will stop using the search feature. CPA - payback shopping sites - these are starting to die off because of too many returned products and decreasing ROI. Anyone remember the scene from 1997-2000 with Stockback, NestEggz, WebMiles, etc? Those companies either changed their models or died off. We do have some good ones, card based services, like Upromise and Club Mom that are doing quite well because of all the offline business they bring. This business model has failed so many times over, and it will again. Agloco was nothing until TechCrunch covered them, now everyone is treating them like their da shit! But why? Because TC wrote a blog post about them? Is that how this whole launching a web business works? Seriously, does anyone see any long term gain out of this? Or a better question suited for this forum: Who plans on buying traffic or ads from them?
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I like your thoughts and trust me when I say I welcome all things about Agloco good and bad statements is what makes me learn about them and inform people about my findings on my blog.
Yes I'm currently a fan of them but not because TC wrote an article, I actually hated the article they wrote about them but do you really think that any program has solid long term goals. Yeah sure the standard Affiliate Programs might have a few because your selling products that need to be sold, the one thing that I like about Agloco is that its free and it's easy to talk about on my blog, people like hearing about them and I don't always tell people what they want to hear, I give them the facts that I know and let them decide if they want to sign up. I do this because I don't need to waste my time on people who won't refer people and I won't waste my time on people who are hard to convert but AllAdvantage did stay afloat for 2 years with their shit business model and yes the Agloco model is much much better so even if they stay online for 3 years your still making money. I would hate to see someone rely only on one program, and again Agloco is free and everything I make is basically profit other then a few minor expenses here and there, but I'll be doing something I'm sure most users wont and thats watching the stock market and being a broker trying to predict where the company is going. The second I feel like its going down I'll cash out, its a simple investment of my time nothing more so if it lasts 2 or 3 years then hey even if I make $500 bucks per month thats $500 more I could be putting into my other programs.
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Your unicorn is in the mail.If you do put the good and the bad (can you point me to a bad post?) on your blog like you say you do, then good for you. ![]() Quote:
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I'm not dissing on you for selling it, I'm dissing on the original Stanford guys who are probably going to successfully ride this out for a year and then be able to retire. It's like that Alex kid and his second million dollar homepage. I can see them at their Web 1.0 Mountain View condo pool: Stanford Kid 1: "Man, we were pimps during AllAdvantage. We should do it again!" Stanford Kid 2:"Totally Dude!" Stanford Kid 3:"Let's make a page, and build the service later!" Stanford Kid 4:"Bro, that's hot. I already built the page." All 4 in Unison: "BETA!" (high fives and fist bumps are passed around) "Quick, to the batmobile!" Na na na na na na! ![]() Quote:
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Second, In order to have stock to buy and sell, a company needs to be listed on some (domestic preferably) stock exchange. Agloco is far from that since they don't even have financials they can present to the SEC. And, the SEC is very wary about approving IPOs for dotcoms with short history. They don't want to be responsible for another bust. Quote:
I think the shares that they talk about are "private shares". And most likely will not be for sale unless you have a large amount, and even then you'll need approval from the management company board of directors. They'll most likely tell you those shares have no cash value at the moment, but represent the percentage of ownership should anyone offer to actually buy out the company or, less likely, an IPO occurs. Mostly, those shares are a representation of what percentage of the previous months profits you are entitled to. They still won't have cash value for quite some time. Only way to cash out is to forfeit them back to the company, or die, which would mean they are forfeited anyway. And I'd seriously doubt that you'd put the extra money in "other" programs. You'll most likely catch the hype of actually getting a check and reinvest it into promoting the program so you can get bigger checks. I'm telling you straight up, this will probably make a lot of people money. But it will not last. Some like short term gain and will jump from program to program to program. Many members of WF are Agloco members I'm sure because they are ADD junkies and they thrive on short term (look up arbitrage). There's also others who'd prefer to build up long term value in a property or program or niche that is guaranteed to be around for a while. Those people don't want to find themselves sitting around a pool in 5 years reliving the "good ol days" and retrying to make a failure successful. They would rather be earning 10 to 100x more in 5 years what they earn today. And finally, beg and plead with a modfather to change your username. Would you still want to be known as "AllAdvantage_Pro" 5 years after its VC funds ran dry and it crapped out? Think in 5 years if this effort to build a personal brand as an Agloco guru will bring any kind of payout. If you choose to keep the name, I can admire that, but get ready to look like an assclown down the road. Of course I did think of using "Enron Lives" for my moniker on another forum, so whatev.
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AllAdvantage fucked a lot of people. I'll just say this: if you promote them you will and deserve to get fucked. The owners are scammers who have held off long enough to avoid MAJOR heat from people they owe money to. They will fuck people and take off with millions.
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Holy shit, now this is some of the information worth hearing, thanks for all of the information I can now see how they have fucked people by running off when they make a few million for themselves.
About the whole stock exchange thing, I'm pretty sure that its not going to be private, it says on the company home page that they are going to go public on the london stock exchange but I'll have to keep a sharp eye on this one as well because it would suck to trade useless fucking private stock. As for the user name I'll keep it for now because it's the name of my blog, plus its easy to find on Google and I'm not going to stop building my network but I am going to be a bit more causious in this particular endevor and keep an eye on things and run just before they run or at least try too. But yes I'm not going to make Agloco my number one focus when making money online, I've got more programs on the go that I'm still getting a few pre-made blogs up and then I'll launch almost at the same time. But I thank everyone for this additional information its great.
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Brian why would I get banned for talking about an affiliate program on an affiliate forum, well ok its more of an MLM program but is post is no different then any other that you can find on the forums here.
I'm not advertising and I'm not telling people to sign up under me I'm simply getting a discussion going about Agloco and AllAdvantage so whats the big deal just because I'm new to the forums I can't start a discussion about something. P.S. After only 12 days of being online I've got my blog recognized by the Agloco Company Blog and nice picture that was uploaded haha.
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Lol sign up on agloco! my sig my sig !! ^^
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Now this line is an advertisement and a half.
I'll stop talking like a puss when I stop being a newbie on these forums, I'm not here to start a war with people who have more pull then me.
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Here's a long overdue update to this thread. Some reputable names offer their thoughts on the Agloco MLM scheme:
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Great response Roadies!
Personally, I don't give a shit how much they pay, I'm not going to knowingly install spyware on my machine. I've experienced identity theft once before and that's a royal pain I'm not willing to repeat. Also, WHY would you want to give someone complete access to your surfing habits? So, they can better track you and send you more targetted spam? Hey, I've got a toolbar you can install on your machine that will report all your surfing habits back to me. Hell, I'll even pay you if you convince all your friends and family to sign up too. That information is invaluable and what Agloco is paying is a pittance compared to what they probably make spamming emails and targetting ads to you. People == Sheep willing to doing anything for an easy buck |
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And it's not so much the user data that bothers me. It's the userdata that is tied to your name, email address, address, spending habits, age, hobbies, browsing habits, search queries, household income, etc. If you have to login to it, chances are you're paying a lot more than you think. Where Agloco will truly make money is by taking your data (because peoples are going to enter CORRECT data so they can be sure to be PAID later) and selling it to other companies who need it to append bad data. You know that drawing you entered, but you purposefully gave them a bad email address so they wouldn't spam you. Guess what. They're going to spam you now. (For those who don't know, a data append is when someone takes two records from two sources and fills in the blanks. For example: Data Set A has my name and address, but false email and phone. Data Set B has name, phone and email, but false address. Append those together, and now both data sets have accurate information.) Baa. Baa.
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Just so everyone knows this post has pretty much carried on to the other post called Algoaco ..anyone try it yet
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