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Lpdesigner · 01-05-2010, 06:42 PM

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The pictures created by the scanners are so graphic they are tantamount to "virtual strip searching", according to privacy campaigners who oppose the use of the security devices.

Ministers may be forced to consider making under-18s exempt from the scans and civil liberties campaigners are demanding measures to ensure the images, which will include those of celebrities, are not leaked onto the internet.

Airport officials say the images from the £80,000 scanners are only seen by a single security officer in a remote location before it is deleted.

But a 12-month trial at Manchester airport of scanners which reveal naked images of passengers only went ahead last month after children were exempted.

The decision came after Terri Dowty, of Action for Rights of Children, gave warning that the scanners could breach the Protection of Children Act 1978, under which it is illegal to create an indecent image or a "pseudo-image" of a child.

A spokesman for the Department for Transport told The Guardian: "We understand the concerns expressed about privacy in relation to the deployment of body scanners. It is vital staff are properly trained and we are developing a code of practice to ensure these concerns are properly taken into account.

Gordon Brown gave the go-ahead at the weekend for the scanners to be rolled out across all Britain's major airports, and said travellers would see the gradual introduction of full-body scans and hand luggage checks for traces of explosives.

The Prime Minister told the BBC that the Government would do everything in its power to tighten security following the attempt by Nigerian Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to detonate a bomb on a plane bound for the USA on Christmas Day.

BAA, which runs six UK airports, said it would now install the devices "as soon as is practical" at Heathrow.

A spokesman said: "It is our view that a combination of technology, intelligences and passenger profiling will help build a more robust defence against the unpredictable and changing nature of the terrorist threat to aviation."

But he added that nothing had yet been decided on exactly which passengers would undergo the full body scans, and declined to comment on how soon BAA would be extending the use of scanners to other airports.

Do they have this in the US yet?

FTC-Hater · 01-05-2010, 06:52 PM

I don't know. But in Canada 11 will be in place in Vancouver and Toronto in the next two weeks ($250,000 per machine).

Due to these laws children [those under 18 years of age] won't be able to go through these scanners. They will simply be patted down if there is anything to worry about.

Of course what you see on the screen is nothing close to "picture" quality and it's a total mindfuck how people can say this "violates" their rights. Flying isn't a right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car - if you don't want to comply to the rules you don't have the right to drive.

You don't like what may happen to you, but very likely won't, then don't fucking fly. There are other means of transportation.

...Also you can opt to be patted down instead of going through this machine in Canada. I don't know about in the US but up here this is made into such a huge deal over nothing.

BeerNuts · 01-05-2010, 06:53 PM

I have seen some at a few airports in the US but they only had one and were not using it. Though hearing so much about it on the news recently made me look up some images. They way they were talking about it on the news I thought these images were going to be way hotter.

Trademark · 01-05-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FTC-Hater

Of course what you see on the screen is nothing close to "picture" quality and it's a total mindfuck how people can say this "violates" their rights.

I consider it a violation of privacy. The clarity of the image is not the barometer I would use to define such a breach. Plus, I read an article about these scanners months ago (in The Atlantic). The new platform has already been designed, though it hasn't left beta. What is being deployed in airports is version 1.0. It's safe to say the clarity will improve.

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Originally Posted by FTC-Hater

Flying isn't a right, it's a persiflage.

Hmm. Had to look that word up. Still not sure what you meant by using it.

amateursurgeon · 01-05-2010, 06:58 PM

Hahaha

"Child protection" runs up against the "War On Terror" : the two most over-hyped excuses for the government to clamp down on civil liberties.

Shame they won't both annhilate each other in a flash of anti-democracy.

Thanks for reminding me about this - forgot about how fascist our country is and was going to put a pic of our baby daughter in bath up on facebook. It's reminded me that I'd probably get arrested and put on the sex offenders register for such a heinous act.

thunderlips · 01-05-2010, 07:00 PM

i wish they would scan hotties instead of fatties.

FTC-Hater · 01-05-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Trademark

I consider it a violation of privacy. The clarity of the image is not the barometer I would use to define such a breach. Plus, I read an article about these scanners months ago (in The Atlantic). The new platform has already been designed, though it hasn't left beta. What is being deployed in airports is version 1.0. It's safe to say the clarity will improve.

Don't know about the US - I think you're located there - but you can opt to be patted down instead of doing this. This technology, in Canada, is just used to speed up the process of getting people in and out.

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Hmm. Had to look that word up. Still not sure what you meant by using it.

Sorry, clicked on the wrong corrected word. I meant privilege - just like riding a car if you don't want to follow the rules you can't fly. Since you can opt out of this, just by asking, this really is not a big deal imo.

Trademark · 01-05-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by amateursurgeon

Hahaha

"Child protection" runs up against the "War On Terror" : the two most over-hyped excuses for the government to clamp down on civil liberties.

Shame they won't both annhilate each other in a flash of anti-democracy.

Thanks for reminding me about this - forgot about how fascist our country is and was going to put a pic of our baby daughter in bath up on facebook. It's reminded me that I'd probably get arrested and put on the sex offenders register for such a heinous act.

Don't forget to avoid yelling at your spouse. That could earn you a criminal record.

kblessinggr · 01-05-2010, 07:07 PM

I remembered they were trying to push the 2257 Rev.B by claiming its a measure to protect children even though while it 'technically' would have, anyone illegally taking pictures of sexually exploited kids is not going to be keeping a record of their IDs and so forth anyways. And it would attack basic artistic freedoms, since the revision called for record keeping of any photograph or video, cloths or otherwise.

Far as the scanner qualities above... kids scanned wouldn't reveal anything more than kid's swimsuits already do.

1nspire · 01-05-2010, 07:11 PM

Man they have been doing that on Mars transports for years.

Trademark · 01-05-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FTC-Hater

Don't know about the US - I think you're located there - but you can opt to be patted down instead of doing this.

...Since you can opt out of this, just by asking, this really is not a big deal imo.

This cuts to the heart of some core beliefs I hold. I can't put the time in to do it justice (and it would belong in another thread if I could). Instead, I'll respectfully... opt out.

kblessinggr · 01-05-2010, 07:13 PM

If a scan when deeper than flesh like on Total Recall, would we be calling it child ultra-porn possible? (Would give a new meaning to wanting to skull fuck someone).

amateursurgeon · 01-05-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trademark

Don't forget to avoid yelling at your spouse. That could earn you a criminal record.

Hmmm - the only place I can see reference to that is the Daily Fail. I suspect that may not be 100% accurate.

_poto_ · 01-05-2010, 07:22 PM

I've seen reports that Terahertz waves can break DNA chains.

Wonder what kinds of mutations and cancer these things will produce.

babylonian · 01-05-2010, 07:36 PM

transistor · 01-05-2010, 07:41 PM

guess i know what job i'm applying for

Sonny Forelli · 01-05-2010, 08:07 PM

the health threat is a far bigger concern of mine.

absolutely ridiculous all of this is. it's making travel less and less appealing.

SeoReborn · 01-05-2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny Forelli

the health threat is a far bigger concern of mine.

absolutely ridiculous all of this is. it's making travel less and less appealing.

That's my concern also. They have not talked about the safety. Exposure to them could increase the risk of cancer.

War on terror = war on YOU.

kblessinggr · 01-05-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SeoReborn

That's my concern also. They have not talked about the safety. Exposure to them could increase the risk of cancer.

War on terror = war on YOU.

Well if you die from cancer, thats one less possible terrorist (or least one less person they need to waste effort checking).

_poto_ · 01-05-2010, 08:29 PM

Scary shit...
Technology Review: Blogs: arXiv blog: How Terahertz Waves Tear Apart DNA

Darkchillie · 01-05-2010, 08:30 PM

I say whatever it takes to make air travel safer. You do not have to use this new scanner. Opt in for a pat down if you are that bothered by it.

kblessinggr · 01-05-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkchillie

I say whatever it takes to make air travel safer.

So says the sheeples.

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Originally Posted by Darkchillie

You do not have to use this new scanner. Opt in for a pat down if you are that bothered by it.

Used to be you could opt to a wand instead of a pat down... probably won't be that long before the scanners will be required with no opt-outs. And Because some things can be concealed from a pat-down (like that crotch bomb), they'll probably push the scanner depending on level of suspicion.

Course all in the name of safety, most people wouldn't complain until it somehow impacts them. I'm with some old adage that those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

Sharksfan · 01-06-2010, 12:20 AM

Fun thread...

It should be noted that many child porn laws are written so very poorly. A surprising number of them are actually written so that the APPEARANCE of an underage person - even if there is documented proof that the actors are over 18 - can be interpreted as child porn.

Like that porno you rented with the young chick in pigtails and a cheerleader outfit? You'd better hope the FBI doesn't have it in for you - you're off to pervent-land.

Jondoe0069 · 01-06-2010, 12:35 AM

1. Guy on terrorist watch list boards a plane with no luggage and no extra security screening is done
2. Failed attempt to catch the plane on fire AFTER landing when it would be the least effective
3. Fast track full body scanners to airports without consideration of health risks
4. ??
5. Profit

amanda11 · 01-06-2010, 01:09 AM

Can't those machines give me a big fucking head tumor?

In George Carlin Words -- "Airport security is a fucking joke to help white people feel safe. It's just a reminder that they can take away your liberty in the name of security, fuck with you any time they want"

Can't a guy stick a bomb up his asshole? I bet those body scanner can't detect those.

justo_tx · 01-06-2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kblessinggr

I'm with some old adage that those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

Ah yes, one of Ben Franklin's little rhetorical bon mots. Funny how he could hold "liberty" in such high regard but it didn't precluded him from ownin' him some negroes.

So do you just not fly? How can you be cool with a wand search or walking through metal detectors, and if you are then this bullshit is just arguing over shades of gray, you surrendered your "Liberty" long ago.

JohnCJackson · 01-06-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkchillie

I say whatever it takes to make air travel safer. You do not have to use this new scanner. Opt in for a pat down if you are that bothered by it.

Except, you know, none of the bullshit done in the name of "safety" ( or anything), actually WORKS. I guess you mean whatever they feel like doing to create the illusion of safety.

JohnCJackson · 01-06-2010, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by justo_tx

Ah yes, one of Ben Franklin's little rhetorical bon mots. Funny how he could hold "liberty" in such high regard but it didn't precluded him from ownin' him some negroes.

So do you just not fly? How can you be cool with a wand search or walking through metal detectors, and if you are then this bullshit is just arguing over shades of gray, you surrendered your "Liberty" long ago.

I don't think there is a single person who has ever lived 100% consistent with his own philosophy- whether it's someone who supports a philosophy of liberty/freedom or not. That does not invalidate said beliefs.

justo_tx · 01-06-2010, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnCJackson

I don't think there is a single person who has ever lived 100% consistent with his own philosophy-

True. But once philosophy turns into sanctimony you may get called out. And Ben Franklin's statement is most definitely sanctimonious.

emp · 01-06-2010, 02:41 AM

You do have to remember that this is what is called "Security Theater".

It is a play being out on to make you feel safer.

It does not deter any real terrorist, as there are a million of ways to harm a country's populace.
Also remember that last year, a drunk guy climbed an airport fence, entered a plane and was found sleeping in it the next morning. You really think a scanner will provide any security?

Another case in point: Metal scanners (been in use for decades, we can safely say the technology is developed fully)

Went with the family from Switzerland via Germany via Russia to Tadjikistan last year.
So we went through quite some checkups, some airports have you checked several times (St.Petersburg, for example)

I wear a metal pendant from my neck, my mother in law has a metal knee prosthesis (that's about 2 pounds of solid metal)

My chain was only detected once, her prosthesis was detected about 50% of the time.

Security Theater.

::emp::

papajohn56 · 01-06-2010, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by justo_tx

Ah yes, one of Ben Franklin's little rhetorical bon mots. Funny how he could hold "liberty" in such high regard but it didn't precluded him from ownin' him some negroes.

So do you just not fly? How can you be cool with a wand search or walking through metal detectors, and if you are then this bullshit is just arguing over shades of gray, you surrendered your "Liberty" long ago.

A buh?

When he finally returned home [to the USA] in 1785, Franklin occupied a position only second to that of George Washington as the champion of American independence. Le Ray honored him with a commissioned portrait painted by Joseph Duplessis that now hangs in the National Portrait Gallery of the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C. After his return, Franklin became an abolitionist, freeing both of his slaves. He eventually became president of the Pennsylvania Abolition Society.

Fly by private jet to smaller airports, my friend. Never worry about the TSA scanners again.

papajohn56 · 01-06-2010, 03:15 AM

on top of my above post:

In his later years, as Congress was forced to deal with the issue of slavery, Franklin wrote several essays that attempted to convince his readers of the importance of the abolition of slavery and of the integration of blacks into American society. These writings included:
An Address to the Public, (1789)
A Plan for Improving the Condition of the Free Blacks (1789), and
Sidi Mehemet Ibrahim on the Slave Trade (1790).

schockergd · 01-06-2010, 07:29 AM

Good thing this will prevent any further terrorist attacks where they sneak a gun on board!

What? That hasn't happened?

Oh well, I'm sure it'll do an amazing job with organic explosives, since they're sooooo easy to detect, which is why not a single person has got through with explosives on a plane since 9/11.

justo_tx · 01-06-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by papajohn56

on top of my above post:

In his later years, as Congress was forced to deal with the issue of slavery, Franklin wrote several essays that attempted to convince his readers of the importance of the abolition of slavery and of the integration of blacks into American society. These writings included:
An Address to the Public, (1789)
A Plan for Improving the Condition of the Free Blacks (1789), and
Sidi Mehemet Ibrahim on the Slave Trade (1790).

Franklin's liberty/security quote was attributed to him around February of 1775 when he still owned slaves. That's great he changed later in life, my beef was more with the quote, in that at the time he made it would been just a hypocritical sound bite that now get's trotted out way too often, as if the Founding Father's shit didn't stink.

Bombastic · 01-06-2010, 01:38 PM

Security in the US is a joke because the work is done by low wage workers who either don't give a shit, or who base their decisions on ego rather than professional training. At least that's how it's been when I've gone there. No cutting-edge tool will make a difference in the hands of the wrong people. In Canada it's just as bad or worse now, because even though the wages are better we feel like we've got to put on a big show for the US to overcompensate for our small Canadian balls.

86badtips · 01-06-2010, 01:54 PM

good old homeland security...I thought it was to stop "terrorists"...

But it is all pointed at us...

Whoops....

justo_tx · 01-06-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombastic

Security in the US is a joke because the work is done by low wage workers who either don't give a shit

This.

TSA workers are either a step above or a step below mall cops, but I'm not sure which.

kblessinggr · 01-06-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by justo_tx

This.

TSA workers are either a step above or a step below mall cops, but I'm not sure which.

Probably a step below, the federal status gives them a tad more ego when it comes to being confronted with accusation that they're doing their job wrong, or they made a mistake. Also you aren't as likely to face jail/prison time for giving a mall cop shit when they give you shit.

mattfca · 01-06-2010, 02:47 PM

couldnt a terrorist wait outside an airport with anti air rpg and just blow the shit out of the plane?

kblessinggr · 01-06-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mattfca

couldnt a terrorist wait outside an airport with anti air rpg and just blow the shit out of the plane?

I suppose it depends on which airport, and also any public access roads are usually going to be too far to be effective. Plus try pulling over on the side of a road just outside any part of a major airport for longer than 5 minutes.

HarveyJ · 01-06-2010, 08:12 PM

Did you know you can set off the anti-air ECM on most commercial airliners by pointing a green 200w laser pointer at them?

They're illegal to sell in Australia precisely because some dipshit kids were doing that.

kblessinggr · 01-06-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HarveyJ

Did you know you can set off the anti-air ECM on most commercial airliners by pointing a green 200w laser pointer at them?

They're illegal to sell in Australia precisely because some dipshit kids were doing that.

There was something on the news here a few years back, it didn't set off any alarms and such, but rather the pilots kept calling an attack cuz a standard laser pointer was getting pointed into the cockpit during takeoff and landing. Turns out someone was setting up a higher power red laser out of their balcony. lol. Not illegal mainly cuz they are used in industrial applications such as landscaping and such, but illegal in that form of use.

The guy was basically protesting the noise pollution. (some regions the airlines/airport paid for sound proofing the nearby neighborhoods, but thats not the case in all cities).

FTC-Hater · 01-06-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by justo_tx

This.

TSA workers are either a step above or a step below mall cops, but I'm not sure which.

A mall cop once let me get on his segway. I'd say they are definitely above TSA workers.

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emp Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,977 iTrader: 17 / 100%	You do have to remember that this is what is called "Security Theater". It is a play being out on to make you feel safer. It does not deter any real terrorist, as there are a million of ways to harm a country's populace. Also remember that last year, a drunk guy climbed an airport fence, entered a plane and was found sleeping in it the next morning. You really think a scanner will provide any security? Another case in point: Metal scanners (been in use for decades, we can safely say the technology is developed fully) Went with the family from Switzerland via Germany via Russia to Tadjikistan last year. So we went through quite some checkups, some airports have you checked several times (St.Petersburg, for example) I wear a metal pendant from my neck, my mother in law has a metal knee prosthesis (that's about 2 pounds of solid metal) My chain was only detected once, her prosthesis was detected about 50% of the time. Security Theater. ::emp:: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Your Logical Fallacies - know them to avoid them That's because all programmers are also ninjas.(but not all ninjas are programmers) - LogicFlux Blind Ape Seo

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Bombastic Panda Killer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,336 iTrader: 18 / 100%	Security in the US is a joke because the work is done by low wage workers who either don't give a shit, or who base their decisions on ego rather than professional training. At least that's how it's been when I've gone there. No cutting-edge tool will make a difference in the hands of the wrong people. In Canada it's just as bad or worse now, because even though the wages are better we feel like we've got to put on a big show for the US to overcompensate for our small Canadian balls. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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86badtips Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 58 iTrader: 1 / 100%	good old homeland security...I thought it was to stop "terrorists"... But it is all pointed at us... Whoops.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-06-2010, 02:47 PM	#39 (permalink)
mattfca Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vancouva Posts: 1,609 iTrader: 2 / 100%	couldnt a terrorist wait outside an airport with anti air rpg and just blow the shit out of the plane? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ mattf.ca

01-06-2010, 08:12 PM	#41 (permalink)
HarveyJ He is - THE CACTUS! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne - Not the one in Florida Posts: 3,906 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Did you know you can set off the anti-air ECM on most commercial airliners by pointing a green 200w laser pointer at them? They're illegal to sell in Australia precisely because some dipshit kids were doing that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ After 10,000 years I'm free!

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